Wright Opens The Door For Trinidad Vs. Quartey or Taylor!
December 14, 2004 - Undisputed junior middleweight king, Ronald "Winky" Wright told **********.com it's going to take more than the $3M Don King Productions is currently offering for him to fight Felix Trinidad on March 12. Although Wright is still a promotional free agent, his legal team has given promoter Gary Shaw temporary authorization to negotiate this fight with DKP. Shaw told **********.com, "The Trinidad's are very honorable people, so I'm wondering if this is King making the offer because I don't think the Trinidad's would be that disrespectful for a $10M Trinidad, $3M Winky. This is the the undisputed junior middleweight champion we're talking about." If Team Wright opts against fighting Trinidad for $3M, this opens the door for Jermain Taylor and Ike Quartey, the other two names Don King has mentioned publicly to land the fight with Trinidad. Promoter Lou DiBella, who promotes BOTH Taylor and Quartey assured **********.com that neither of his fighter's would pass up such an offer from DKP
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Puuuuuuuusy...all that talk about Tito and now the $$$ is not enough...Winky is full of ****... :cool:

Wright Opens The Door For Trinidad Vs. Quartey or Taylor!
December 14, 2004 - Undisputed junior middleweight king, Ronald "Winky" Wright told **********.com it's going to take more than the $3M Don King Productions is currently offering for him to fight Felix Trinidad on March 12. Although Wright is still a promotional free agent, his legal team has given promoter Gary Shaw temporary authorization to negotiate this fight with DKP. Shaw told **********.com, "The Trinidad's are very honorable people, so I'm wondering if this is King making the offer because I don't think the Trinidad's would be that disrespectful for a $10M Trinidad, $3M Winky. This is the the undisputed junior middleweight champion we're talking about." If Team Wright opts against fighting Trinidad for $3M, this opens the door for Jermain Taylor and Ike Quartey, the other two names Don King has mentioned publicly to land the fight with Trinidad. Promoter Lou DiBella, who promotes BOTH Taylor and Quartey assured **********.com that neither of his fighter's would pass up such an offer from DKP
link (http://**********.net/)

hell prolly end up fighten quartey
i dont think taylors people would throw him in with tito yet

Puuuuuuuusy...all that talk about Tito and now the $$$ is not enough...Winky is full of ****... :cool:
Easy for you to say. These guys are in a very tough business. Didnt Tito turn down the Oscar fight because of money. Winky is the Champ and he is the one who's moving up. I understand that Tito is more popular but stop disrespecting fighters and start kicking out more loot. Winky deserves more then that. Thats why X wont fight Tito because him and King are always trying to pull that I've got all the power ****. Beating a overgrown welterweight in Mayorga doesnt mean ****. He needs to beat a big name to prove that he is really back after getting KO, and Quartey is not going to cut it. What does he think that this is 5 years ago or something, and you know Taylor will want a hell of alot more money then that

Winky can stay at 154 then i dont wanna hear him ***** about how much he dont get recognized and how he's willing to fight anyone.

3 million... he should be jumping on the offer, this offer wont be made available to him again. Lets face it not many people know who Winky Wright is, but everyone knows who Tito is.

Winky is always saying he wants big fights, they offered him 3 million and a fight with Tito and it still wasn't good enough.

I can't believe Winky :mad:

Winky can stay at 154 then i dont wanna hear him ***** about how much he dont get recognized and how he's willing to fight anyone.

3 million... he should be jumping on the offer, this offer wont be made available to him again. Lets face it not many people know who Winky Wright is, but everyone knows who Tito is.
But see dont you get it. That's what the problem is. People in the position of Tito are saying the same thing that your saying. They figure they can make all the money and give others scraps. It's not fair. If Winky says yes just because it's the most he ever made then it would be bad for boxing. Then people like Tito would try to give people 2 mill. , then 1 mill and it would get lower and lower. Winky is a man first and just because you offer him more then he's ever made doesnt mean that he should take it when Tito is getting more then triple the amount. He can fight a decent guy and get 2 million, now Tito only wants to give him 3. Are you crazy dude. Why would he take that. Are you trying to tell me that Tito couldnt give him atleast 5 mil. Would that reall kill him. He wont even give him 4. Stop being greedy

Are you crazy dude. Why would he take that. Are you trying to tell me that Tito couldnt give him atleast 5 mil. Would that reall kill him. He wont even give him 4. Stop being greedy


If he takes the Tito fight and wins then he can make more money in the future. Tito Trinidad is the draw

But see dont you get it. That's what the problem is. People in the position of Tito are saying the same thing that your saying. They figure they can make all the money and give others scraps. It's not fair. If Winky says yes just because it's the most he ever made then it would be bad for boxing. Then people like Tito would try to give people 2 mill. , then 1 mill and it would get lower and lower. Winky is a man first and just because you offer him more then he's ever made doesnt mean that he should take it when Tito is getting more then triple the amount. He can fight a decent guy and get 2 million, now Tito only wants to give him 3. Are you crazy dude. Why would he take that. Are you trying to tell me that Tito couldnt give him atleast 5 mil. Would that reall kill him. He wont even give him 4. Stop being greedy

The thing is if Wright doesn't take Trinidad for $3mill? Who does he fight for even a $1mill? When? What weight class? I dont see Hopkins or DLH going for that fight...maybe, but not. Winky is a good guy and he proves it wenever Lacy fights...he kept telling lacy "this is ur life!"...too bad bojado didn't take it that seriously as Lacy.

If he takes the Tito fight and wins then he can make more money in the future. Tito Trinidad is the draw
Tito is the draw and deserves more but not more then 3 times more. What if he loses to Tito, and if he did when that doesnt guarntee anything. Look at X. Everyone thought he was going to do this ant that and what did he do, nothing. It took him nearly 4 years to get another big fight, and Oscar says that he's moving down now.

My point is that people like Tito, and Oscar always throw ***** change to the other fighters because they know the others have no choice, and they also know that if they dont except then they can still fight a garbage fighter like Campos, and Castilio on PPV

But see dont you get it. That's what the problem is. People in the position of Tito are saying the same thing that your saying. They figure they can make all the money and give others scraps. It's not fair. If Winky says yes just because it's the most he ever made then it would be bad for boxing. Then people like Tito would try to give people 2 mill. , then 1 mill and it would get lower and lower. Winky is a man first and just because you offer him more then he's ever made doesnt mean that he should take it when Tito is getting more then triple the amount. He can fight a decent guy and get 2 million, now Tito only wants to give him 3. Are you crazy dude. Why would he take that. Are you trying to tell me that Tito couldnt give him atleast 5 mil. Would that reall kill him. He wont even give him 4. Stop being greedy

3 million is in no way scraps. Thats very good money. Many champs fight their toughest fighters to date for less than that. Its not weather its the most he's ever made but lets face it, 3 million certainly is not pocket change. Winky is relatively unknown. The only way he can change that is by stepping up with a win or big performance against tito. If he dont want to do that then how is he a man when he is gonna turn down a BIG money fight (beacuse it is a big money fight) where he could turn out to make history and a legacy for himself.

3 million is in no way scraps. Thats very good money. Many champs fight their toughest fighters to date for less than that. Its not weather its the most he's ever made but lets face it, 3 million certainly is not pocket change. Winky is relatively unknown. The only way he can change that is by stepping up with a win or big performance against tito. If he dont want to do that then how is he a man when he is gonna turn down a BIG money fight (beacuse it is a big money fight) where he could turn out to make history and a legacy for himself.
Your still making my point for me. It's not scraps for Wright. It would be the most he's ever made, but it's scraps for Tito and he knows that he can get away with it because he knows that it's the most Winky ever made

my god what ***** winky is...now i really hope that a-hole doesnt get big fights...he finally gets one and saids no..f**k winky for this sh*t...

sorry..i am ok...lol :D ..***** ass winky

Puuuuuuuusy...all that talk about Tito and now the $$$ is not enough...Winky is full of ****... :cool:

winky is making a big mistake here...he's an excellent fighter alright...but not an exciting fighter...and a small ppv asset...it will take him years to make that money...let alone get the same offer again...as for tito, it's all business and he is fully aware of the value that he brings to the game.he's just trying to make the most of every opportunity he gets.

if this fight happens, i would go for tito in a late round stoppage or a ud.

If he takes the Tito fight and wins then he can make more money in the future. Tito Trinidad is the draw
Tito is nothing but a FORMER champ who beat blown up bum in his comeback fight. If he want's to keep making moneyfighting bums go ahead. Winky will know in his heart that he did the right thing and that's all that matters. If tito really believes that he is as good as all his fans think he is, prove it! X shut his mouth once and if he is man enough to give the fans what they want, who knows maybe Winky will as well

If this happens, no titles will be at stake? Cause Wright is moving up uh?

that's cause winky knows tito will knock him the fuk out.

Tito is used to making 8+ million. Why should he take a pay cut from the Mayorga fight (10 mil) to fight Winky? If Winky doesn't want to earn 3 Mil then he can take his ass back to Jr. Middle and handle his titles there. If he wants to step up (and he is the one challenging Tito because of the increase in weight) then he has to be willing to take the lower end of the bargain. Don't expect Tito to take a pay cut just to fight Winky when he can earn just as much fighting Sturm or Taylor. If Taylor was offered 3 Mil I'm sure he'd take it.

Winky, take the money or take your ass home.

winky is a joke........who does he think he is.......hes always yapping off about how noone wnats to fight him......and hear comes tito.....and now hes saying 3 million isnt enough? isnt that his highest payday??????.......that just tells me hes knows hes gonna get knocked the F out 3million is more than enough for a fighter that people dont really like watching.........this is like byrd asking for 10million

Yea the guy whos been retired for 2 years came back and beat up a guy SMALLER than Winky after being ko'd his fight before that should make over 3x as much as the undisputed champ. Sure, I ****in understand now

When You Win Multiple Championships And Hold These Belts For Years. Then You Can Delgate Your Pay. Until Then Shut Your Mouth Wanting A Big Fighting Getting The Opportunity And Rejecting It. This Is Bull****, And For All You People Hating On Tito,oscar Or Any Other Boxer For The Money They Make, You Guy Really Need To Look At What These Guys Have Done To Demand Such Money.
Look At Oscars Record And Opponents, Look At Tito's History These Guys Have Been Champions For Years And Have Always Faced The Best. Pay Them What They Want. Until You Beat Them Shut Your ****en Mouth And Fight To Get To The Top. Prove That You Deserve 1o Mil A Fight......................enough Said

if winky beats trinidad then he could start demanding money.....but the thing is poeple rather watch trinidad........it also matters what people want to see....winky isnt exactly a fighter people want to see

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hes trying to be like mayorga

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hes trying to be like mayorga
ya expect mayo did it with a bigger guy
while winky did it with a smaller guy

winky was legitimately hurt after that mosley punch

but mosley should try to move down to welterweight since that punch didnt drop wright......that just shows hes too small to compete at junior middleweight

winky was legitimately hurt after that mosley punch
so that just proves hes got a weak chin

well i wouldnt say weak......but trinidad would definitely knock him down or out

Shunning 3 mill? WTF!!!

well i wouldnt say weak......but trinidad would definitely knock him down or out
If you think that Tito will have a easy time with Winky then your wrong. Winky's defense is extremely tight and he is a very sound boxer. I think that he can do some of the same things to Tito that X and Oscar did. He has a better D then both of them and a great jab. Not to mention that he is also a southpaw.

i know winky has a very good defense....but i dont think he can stay away from trniidad for 12 rounds......trinidad will get thru his guard

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get thru the guard like this

when was the last time winky beat someone on his toes? hes old and just tries to bully opponents with his jab. hes a VERY hittable target. his whole body is constantly exposed. NONE of his last opponents had any power to capitalize. i think trinidad would stop him around the 8th round, maybe sooner.

when was the last time winky beat someone on his toes? hes old and just tries to bully opponents with his jab. hes a VERY hittable target. his whole body is constantly exposed. NONE of his last opponents had any power to capitalize. i think trinidad would stop him around the 8th round, maybe sooner.
You just dont understand boxing. Saying Wright is very hittable is like saying that Floyd and Toney are very hittable. Floyd and Toney let guys hit them and they roll the punches or block them with their hands, arms, and shoulders. This tires fighters out then you can dominate them when they stop punching. Wright also lets people hit him. He always keeps his guard up. You cant penetrate his D. He keeps his arms straight up so that's all you hit. All Mosley was hitting was his forearms. You could see that he was frustrated because he couldnt get through. Wright leaves his body exposed for shots just like Sturm, but when you have used this technique for a long time then your body is trained to handel the body punch. Oscar watched tape on Sturm and thought he could eat this guy's body up, but it never hurt Sturm because he has trained his body to handle them. That's exactly what Manny Steward was saying after the fight. What Oscar was doing early on looked good but it never hurt him because he is equipped to take that, and what happened. Oscar started to wear down. Tito never goes to the body anyway. He will hit Winkys arms all night long

both sides in this thread are making excellent points. i'm going to philosifize and say its possible that gentleman winky turned the 3 mil down for the publicity and maybe for future gratuaties like having trinidad comedown and fight him at 154 or maybe a future rematch or something. winky has to be thinking there's a good chance he's going to loose. then where will he be at. beltless and back making chicken feed against second tier boxers because top names will duck him as before.( thats if he fights tito at 154).man if the wink goes up in weight against tito as i see it he has less of a chance.

Winky often reminds me of Michael Spinks--an awkward fighter who got the job done; but not much fun to watch. Spinks' awkwardness gave Larry Holmes fits and derailed Holmes bid to better Marciano's win record! Moreover, before meeting Holmes, Spinks was well near untouchable in his own LHeavyweight division!

Wright saying no to $3M, however, leads me to speculate that he must have borrowed a page from Bernard Hopkins' book, written in the late 90's and well into the early 2000's, on how not to make too much money... :rolleyes:

He can't look forward to a similar offer fighting somebody else, could he? He's getting on in years, he should take care of his retirment stash! ;)

Yeah I agree. Get that $3M now Winky. You'll never know
if this is the last time someone will offer you that much ;)

Winky is always saying he wants big fights, they offered him 3 million and a fight with Tito and it still wasn't good enough.

I can't believe Winky :mad:


:D We can't blame Winky . . . maybe he feels he is worth more than 3M . . . he is a p4p fighter after all. Yes Trinidad is better recognized than him but . . . he might be thinking that the price is not worth the risk. INDEED Trinidad is a very big RISK . . . don't you people agree?

:D We can't blame Winky . . . maybe he feels he is worth more than 3M . . . he is a p4p fighter after all. Yes Trinidad is better recognized than him but . . . he might be thinking that the price is not worth the risk. INDEED Trinidad is a very big RISK . . . don't you people agree?

Agree 100%
By the way, how much did he receive against mosley?

Winky's only big hope for a big payday is with Oscar; does it look like Oscar is in a big hurry to make the fight? :rolleyes:

Unless Mayorga comes back...

There are not too many names on Winky's list with dollar signs attached to them. :(

I don't blame Winky for avoiding Tito. if he wants a long reign as Champion then thats a wise thing to do. When i saw him fight Mosley i enjoyed it but i thought to myself if he fought Tito like that he would get slaughtered. Seeing OScar fight him would be interesting or maybe even a rematch with Varga's ifhe comes back. (Lets avoid a third Shane beating PLEASE) :D

I'm assuming that Winky just wanted to up his purse. :D Trinidad has been given more recognition of course, more respect but if Winky has the confidence he'll grab this chance. I'm sure he'll get more recognition and respect if he makes it through. He's got to meet this challenge head on.

What? Winky is refusing a ticket to superstardom? :p Any other foghter would jump and grab this opportunity. Let this be a sacrifice fight if he makes it through the all next fights will be megabuck fights, I'm sure.

You just dont understand boxing. Saying Wright is very hittable is like saying that Floyd and Toney are very hittable. Floyd and Toney let guys hit them and they roll the punches or block them with their hands, arms, and shoulders. This tires fighters out then you can dominate them when they stop punching. Wright also lets people hit him. He always keeps his guard up. You cant penetrate his D. He keeps his arms straight up so that's all you hit. All Mosley was hitting was his forearms. You could see that he was frustrated because he couldnt get through. Wright leaves his body exposed for shots just like Sturm, but when you have used this technique for a long time then your body is trained to handel the body punch. Oscar watched tape on Sturm and thought he could eat this guy's body up, but it never hurt Sturm because he has trained his body to handle them. That's exactly what Manny Steward was saying after the fight. What Oscar was doing early on looked good but it never hurt him because he is equipped to take that, and what happened. Oscar started to wear down. Tito never goes to the body anyway. He will hit Winkys arms all night long

i respect your OPINION but you too have a clouded view of boxing. the one thing you have to understand is that every boxer is very hittable. its just a matter of finding out how to do it. mosley was hitting arms i agree, but as we saw mosley does not have the power that trinidad has. if trinidad hits his arms like that they will eventually drop. when your arms are getting hit it takes thier strength away. sure mosley couldn't do it but mosley does not have the power that tito does. and you say that dlh stuck sturms body. i agree. but with love taps compaired to what tito would do to winky. and correct me if i'm wrong but doesn't dlh have a reputation for being too tired to fight after say the 6th round? tito never goes to the body? you obviously didn't even watch the tito mayorga fight let alone ant of his others if you say he doesn't go to the body. now i'm not sayin that if tito and winky fight its going to be total tito domination. winky hs a very good chance for an upset. but the one thing you have to remember is that the one thing that most of tito challengers have underestimated is his power. tito will eat alot of jabs. sure tito may hit arms for the first 2 rounds. but i just don't see it that way. tito is an accurate puncher. he pics his shots wisely. i would take tito mid fight stoppage. as far as the money goes..... gimmie a break. winky needs to quit being a leech. stop trying to get the money that tito is drawing. it makes no sense to me for winky to make more than 3 mil. i wonder if sturm would take the 3 mil? i'd rather see that fight any way.i give sturm a better chance at tito than i do winky. just my OPINION guys.

Wright Opens The Door For Trinidad Vs. Quartey or Taylor!
December 14, 2004 - Undisputed junior middleweight king, Ronald "Winky" Wright told **********.com it's going to take more than the $3M Don King Productions is currently offering for him to fight Felix Trinidad on March 12. Although Wright is still a promotional free agent, his legal team has given promoter Gary Shaw temporary authorization to negotiate this fight with DKP. Shaw told **********.com, "The Trinidad's are very honorable people, so I'm wondering if this is King making the offer because I don't think the Trinidad's would be that disrespectful for a $10M Trinidad, $3M Winky. This is the the undisputed junior middleweight champion we're talking about." If Team Wright opts against fighting Trinidad for $3M, this opens the door for Jermain Taylor and Ike Quartey, the other two names Don King has mentioned publicly to land the fight with Trinidad. Promoter Lou DiBella, who promotes BOTH Taylor and Quartey assured **********.com that neither of his fighter's would pass up such an offer from DKP
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Somewhat surprisingly, Wright has shown himself to be an idiot. Its not like the superstars are knocking down his door to fight him. $3,000,000 not good enough, huh, for someone whose fighting style couldn't draw flies? Only in boxing.

i agree winky should take it, cause nobody's gonna give him 3 million to defend against the guys at 154... winky needs to fight a big name to make any money, while tito doesn't need winky...

Yea the guy whos been retired for 2 years came back and beat up a guy SMALLER than Winky after being ko'd his fight before that should make over 3x as much as the undisputed champ. Sure, I ****in understand now


Kid....

I was at that fight when Tito beat up tht "little" guy....me & about 18,000 other people....We all shelled out some $$$ for that fight.
The PPV #'s were pretty damn nice, too.

& guess what ? We all got our money's worth.
That's why TITO is in the position to call the shots. The guy creates excitement & never disappoints.

Could Winky draw that many people ? Not even close !
Could Winky generate that kind of excitement ? LMAO !


What about Oscar getting almost 3x the amount Hopkins did ?
Did you have a problem with Oscar, notorious for SUCKING in big fights/coming off a GIFT DECISION win, getting that much more than the the undisputed middleweight champ ? The guy who is the conscensus choice as the world's best fighter ?
Did you have a problem with how Oscar made all that money, then fought like a ***** & quit like a *** ?

I think that I am the only person here that thinks that Winky is completely wrong. It is Tito's fan base that is paying for this fight, and it is Tito who could fight my grandma and make 10 million.

What these fighters have to consider is what their next best alternative is.

Tito can fight Quartay and make about 10 mil.

Wright can fight Ouma and make about 500,000.

Hopkins took less to fight DLH because it was his best chance to make money and it was out there.

Vivian Harris turned down $750K to fight Hatton and he fought in Germany for $100K aganst Steve Urkel or something.

Wright should thank his lucky stars that Tito is willing to fight him.

"I think that I am the only person here that thinks that Winky is completely wrong. It is Tito's fan base that is paying for this fight, and it is Tito who could fight my grandma and make 10 million."


?????

Seems like most of those posting on this topic believe Winky is wrong, myself included.

i agree..........

Not too smart :(

i respect your OPINION but you too have a clouded view of boxing. the one thing you have to understand is that every boxer is very hittable. its just a matter of finding out how to do it. mosley was hitting arms i agree, but as we saw mosley does not have the power that trinidad has. if trinidad hits his arms like that they will eventually drop. when your arms are getting hit it takes thier strength away. sure mosley couldn't do it but mosley does not have the power that tito does. and you say that dlh stuck sturms body. i agree. but with love taps compaired to what tito would do to winky. and correct me if i'm wrong but doesn't dlh have a reputation for being too tired to fight after say the 6th round? tito never goes to the body? you obviously didn't even watch the tito mayorga fight let alone ant of his others if you say he doesn't go to the body. now i'm not sayin that if tito and winky fight its going to be total tito domination. winky hs a very good chance for an upset. but the one thing you have to remember is that the one thing that most of tito challengers have underestimated is his power. tito will eat alot of jabs. sure tito may hit arms for the first 2 rounds. but i just don't see it that way. tito is an accurate puncher. he pics his shots wisely. i would take tito mid fight stoppage. as far as the money goes..... gimmie a break. winky needs to quit being a leech. stop trying to get the money that tito is drawing. it makes no sense to me for winky to make more than 3 mil. i wonder if sturm would take the 3 mil? i'd rather see that fight any way.i give sturm a better chance at tito than i do winky. just my OPINION guys.
Do you know how hard a forearm is. Tito wont never bring those guards down, and people always talk about what the guy with power is going to do like the other gut has no offense. They always say yeah Floyd might get away for a few rounds but when Zoo hits him. They said Spinks might can move for a few rounds but when Mayorga hits him. Trust me Winky will be doing alot of scoring in this fight. This is about a guy who never got his respect and now he has one big fight. The fight that he's been waiting for his whole life. Sound familar? Sounds just like Hopkins to me and Winky vs Shane, or Tarver vs Jones. This will be a fight were Tito will take alot of punishment. Tito's the guy with the suspect chin. This will be toe to toe, and I'm going with the guy who's the better boxer, has the better chin, has the better defense, and the guy who's been waiting his whole life for this moment and is extremley hungery

You just dont understand boxing. Saying Wright is very hittable is like saying that Floyd and Toney are very hittable. Floyd and Toney let guys hit them and they roll the punches or block them with their hands, arms, and shoulders. This tires fighters out then you can dominate them when they stop punching. Wright also lets people hit him. He always keeps his guard up. You cant penetrate his D. He keeps his arms straight up so that's all you hit. All Mosley was hitting was his forearms. You could see that he was frustrated because he couldnt get through. Wright leaves his body exposed for shots just like Sturm, but when you have used this technique for a long time then your body is trained to handel the body punch. Oscar watched tape on Sturm and thought he could eat this guy's body up, but it never hurt Sturm because he has trained his body to handle them. That's exactly what Manny Steward was saying after the fight. What Oscar was doing early on looked good but it never hurt him because he is equipped to take that, and what happened. Oscar started to wear down. Tito never goes to the body anyway. He will hit Winkys arms all night long


LOL i dont understand boxing. youre trying to say winky can stand in front of trinidad with his hands up and win a fight? who has EVER stood in front of trinidad and won? and i dont understand boxing? how are floyd/toney similar to winky? winky gives you his ENTIRE body including his liver. floyd and toney show half of their body, and keep their left hand low to defend it. they leave the left side of their head open and depend on reflexes to dodge and counter. floyd and toney use shoulder roll, winky does not. they dont fight ANYTHING alike so how can you compare winky to floyd and toney? i just find it hilarious since shoulder roll stance is ALL about defending your midsection. your liver is hidden in the back and you keep your left hand low defending your lead side. winky has both hands high exposing his belly. you have absoluetely no clue what youre talking about. oscar and mosley have absolutely no power to break that sort of defense strum and winky use. please up your boxing iq before you step to me again

LOL i dont understand boxing. youre trying to say winky can stand in front of trinidad with his hands up and win a fight? who has EVER stood in front of trinidad and won? and i dont understand boxing? how are floyd/toney similar to winky? winky gives you his ENTIRE body including his liver. floyd and toney show half of their body, and keep their left hand low to defend it. they leave the left side of their head open and depend on reflexes to dodge and counter. floyd and toney use shoulder roll, winky does not. they dont fight ANYTHING alike so how can you compare winky to floyd and toney? oscar and mosley have absolutely no power to break that sort of defense strum and winky use. please up your boxing iq before you step to me again
I didnt say they fight alike. You said Winky is very hittable, and I said that's just because thats his style, not because he doesnt have a good D. He lets people hit him just like Toney and Floyd let people hit them but I did divide their styles and said that Floyd and Toney were alike and that Winky and Sturm were alike. Tito hasnt knocked everyone out. You said when have I ever seen anyone stand infront of Tito and I say that Winky stands infront of everyone and no one knocks him out. What makes you think that Tito will just overwhelm him. How do you know that Winky cant take it and dish it back. Like I said he wont get hit with too many clean shots in the face

shoulder roll defense defends your midsection better than any other stance. you have no shot at hitting someones liver whos in a shoulder rolls stance. you only see their lead side (shoulder) they give you half the target a fighter in normal stance does. they keep their left hand low also defending the exposed side of their body. right hand is high to block a high lead left hook. reflexes used to dodge the right hand. theyre defending themselves with shoulders , back, arms etc it is very difficult to get to their midsections.

winky and strum fight very similar. they bully behind a jab and the fact that they havent faced someone hard enough to bring their hands down. trinidad is a MUCH harder puncher than mosley. i just cant picture anyone exposing their body to trinidad and being able to withstand the barrage of punches. tito throws beautiful combinations if you give him a target. and winky is a very big target. look at the guys who've had success against trinidad, executioner and dlh. they moved the whole fight and kept a jab in his face. neither of them stood in front of trinidad. now, if winky came in with a plan to fight how he used to and move alot, then i could see him giving tito a lot of trouble. but i havent seen him fight that way in ages. when was the last time winky faced a good puncher? vargas?

shoulder roll defense defends your midsection better than any other stance. you have no shot at hitting someones liver whos in a shoulder rolls stance. you only see their lead side (shoulder) they give you half the target a fighter in normal stance does. they keep their left hand low also defending the exposed side of their body. right hand is high to block a high lead left hook. reflexes used to dodge the right hand. theyre defending themselves with shoulders , back, arms etc it is very difficult to get to their midsections.

winky and strum fight very similar. they bully behind a jab and the fact that they havent faced someone hard enough to bring their hands down. trinidad is a MUCH harder puncher than mosley. i just cant picture anyone exposing their body to trinidad and being able to withstand the barrage of punches. tito throws beautiful combinations if you give him a target. and winky is a very big target. look at the guys who've had success against trinidad, executioner and dlh. they moved the whole fight and kept a jab in his face. neither of them stood in front of trinidad. now, if winky came in with a plan to fight how he used to and move alot, then i could see him giving tito a lot of trouble. but i havent seen him fight that way in ages. when was the last time winky faced a good puncher? vargas?
Tito doesnt even go to the body that much and when he does it doesnt have the same power as his head shots. Also when he goes to the body then he will open himself up to counter punches just like Winky did Shane

Wright's blood is more expensive than first thought...

he should be able to name his price, he deserves it, he ait gonna sell himself short. and if don king only offered 3mil you know its gotta be worth more than that.

he should be able to name his price, he deserves it, he ait gonna sell himself short. and if don king only offered 3mil you know its gotta be worth more than that.
3 Mil, investment or cashing in the chips? I feel the latter.

Do you know how hard a forearm is. Tito wont never bring those guards down, and people always talk about what the guy with power is going to do like the other gut has no offense. They always say yeah Floyd might get away for a few rounds but when Zoo hits him. They said Spinks might can move for a few rounds but when Mayorga hits him. Trust me Winky will be doing alot of scoring in this fight. This is about a guy who never got his respect and now he has one big fight. The fight that he's been waiting for his whole life. Sound familar? Sounds just like Hopkins to me and Winky vs Shane, or Tarver vs Jones. This will be a fight were Tito will take alot of punishment. Tito's the guy with the suspect chin. This will be toe to toe, and I'm going with the guy who's the better boxer, has the better chin, has the better defense, and the guy who's been waiting his whole life for this moment and is extremley hungery


this is a perfect example of "ignorance is bliss!!!!

give winky 5 mil and lets do it, I want tito to ko his ass

Do you know how hard a forearm is. Tito wont never bring those guards down, and people always talk about what the guy with power is going to do like the other gut has no offense. They always say yeah Floyd might get away for a few rounds but when Zoo hits him. They said Spinks might can move for a few rounds but when Mayorga hits him. Trust me Winky will be doing alot of scoring in this fight. This is about a guy who never got his respect and now he has one big fight. The fight that he's been waiting for his whole life. Sound familar? Sounds just like Hopkins to me and Winky vs Shane, or Tarver vs Jones. This will be a fight were Tito will take alot of punishment. Tito's the guy with the suspect chin. This will be toe to toe, and I'm going with the guy who's the better boxer, has the better chin, has the better defense, and the guy who's been waiting his whole life for this moment and is extremley hungery

floyd and zoo???is that mayweather and kostya tszyu
didnt know theyde fought..

ok mayorga isnt half as good a boxer as tito or spinks
and funnily enough he was beaten by both.

some people did say mayorga was gonna beat em both
but not everyone..not me lol

still not sure whether tito would beat b-hop but
id tip him to beat dlh, spinks, quartey, and
taylor... and winky

i think it his way out of not fighting tito.

You better belive it.Winky knows he'll get KO'ed then it's back to fighting in France again.

Winky Wright is just a Vernon Forest one hit wonder he has only beaten Moseley. Lets look at the facts Winky refuses to fight Vargas again even though he was begging for a rematch before Vargas fought De La Hoya now he has all the belts he thinks he can command more than 3 million which I think is too much for a boring fighter. If anybody wants to know tito and Gatti get so much money compared to other fighters simple and I will make it clear

TITO & GATTI are exciting fighters who have both been in many fights of the year.

Wright has done nothing apart from beat a shot moseley who will end up like Roy Jones getting knocked out badly at Welteweight Oscar you have been warned

pretty stupid considering he barely got by mosley in the rematch

pretty stupid considering he barely got by mosley in the rematch

i agree...he may well be a champion...but nobody wants to see him fight...the real draw here is tito...he would be lucky if he gets the same or even half of that offer again...

i guess winky & jmm are birds of the same feather...

My point is that people like Tito, and Oscar always throw ***** change to the other fighters because they know the others have no choice, and they also know that if they dont except then they can still fight a garbage fighter like Campos, and Castilio on PPV
Thats cause they can,they r the moneymakers in boxing. Who the **** is Campos and Castillo is not garbage.