Not then... NOW. That's right, you'll think I'm talking out of my hat, but not only is Big George the right height for the job, he's already commented on interviews about the allegations that Vit's a big hitter ("You've GOT to be kidding me!!")

So could an old Big George come out and do the job? Or would he like the canvas so much he'd put his name on it??

hypothetical question. different eras. everyone will say freman, but who really knows

big george has the puchers chance because dude has power.i dont see him winning a the age of 55 against the heavyweight champ of the world.big george has said that he is willing to fight the klits if the opp presented itself.

dude wtf?
there was a thread abot this same **** made earlier
im talkin like no more then 2hrs ago

No, don't be stupid. Never. :)

No not now . . . 2 years ago YES.

Apologies for repetition of threads, I hadn't noticed the other one.

And K-Yo, to clarify, I'm talking about if Foreman made a comeback TODAY.

no not now

No, don't be stupid. Never. :)
i dont know about never.

I think Vitaliy would have defeated Foreman.

Foreman was a small heavy (220lb) in his first coming and a slow heavy dude in his second coming.


Foreman was not particularly skillfull and not particularly devastating (only 85% or so KO rate in his wins). Vitaliy is very skillful (he did outbox Lennox) and has 97% KO rate. Vitaliy is also very clever fighter.

Vitaliy would have defeated George in both of his comings.

I agree, Vitaliy just a better fighter.

No, don't be stupid. :cool:

Nautilus you show ignorance in your post, not that you haven't shown a huge bias towards the Klitschkos already . .

George Foreman in his prime was a BIG heavyweight. He weighed 220 lbs because that what a 6'3 HW SHOULD weigh if he wants to perform at an optimum level. He was bigger then Rahman, bigger then Ruiz, bigger then Brewster, bigger then most of the division today except your super HW jokes like McCline and Whitaker. He was faster then Vitali, had a much better jab, better work-rate, better stamina (yes-watch his fights against Peralta), much harder hitter, reacted much better to a hard punch, more versatility . . just a fighter in a league above Klitschko.

Nautilus you show ignorance in your post, not that you haven't shown a huge bias towards the Klitschkos already . .

George Foreman in his prime was a BIG heavyweight. He weighed 220 lbs because that what a 6'3 HW SHOULD weigh if he wants to perform at an optimum level. He was bigger then Rahman, bigger then Ruiz, bigger then Brewster, bigger then most of the division today except your super HW jokes like McCline and Whitaker. He was faster then Vitali, had a much better jab, better work-rate, better stamina (yes-watch his fights against Peralta), much harder hitter, reacted much better to a hard punch, more versatility . . just a fighter in a league above Klitschko.

i agree with you about foreman beating klit :cool:

Nautilus you show ignorance in your post, not that you haven't shown a huge bias towards the Klitschkos already . .

George Foreman in his prime was a BIG heavyweight. He weighed 220 lbs because that what a 6'3 HW SHOULD weigh if he wants to perform at an optimum level. He was bigger then Rahman, bigger then Ruiz, bigger then Brewster, bigger then most of the division today except your super HW jokes like McCline and Whitaker. He was faster then Vitali, had a much better jab, better work-rate, better stamina (yes-watch his fights against Peralta), much harder hitter, reacted much better to a hard punch, more versatility . . just a fighter in a league above Klitschko.

whatever.

There is only one way to see-- to have VK fight the young Formean. That's impossible.

My opinion is not testable, hence not falsifiable.


My opinion is that VK would defeat Foreman

whatever.

There is only one way to see-- to have VK fight the young Formean. That's impossible.

My opinion is not testable, hence not falsifiable.


My opinion is that VK would defeat Foreman

what if current george beats vitali? what would you say then?
then you'd have to admit young george wins


its a long shot but you never know :)

George Today would probably be killed in the ring if he got in with VK. No disrespect to Foreman but come on. hes 55 years old! Hes in remarkable shape, for his age. He just too old.

George Today would probably be killed in the ring if he got in with VK. No disrespect to Foreman but come on. hes 55 years old! Hes in remarkable shape, for his age. He just too old.

people wrote him off when he was 45. iam not going to write him off until the the fight happens if it does. it sounds crazy but no one thought that at the begigning of his comeback he would be the undisputed heavyweight champ of the world.

no way vitali is way to powerful for george foreman now and he doubtfully could beat vitali when he was young

I think Vitali would put up a good fight with prime Foreman.

I think Vitaliy would have defeated Foreman.

Foreman was a small heavy (220lb) in his first coming and a slow heavy dude in his second coming.


Foreman was not particularly skillfull and not particularly devastating (only 85% or so KO rate in his wins). Vitaliy is very skillful (he did outbox Lennox) and has 97% KO rate. Vitaliy is also very clever fighter.

Vitaliy would have defeated George in both of his comings.
i agree vitalis da man!!

Let's see how Don King handles the unification...

whatever?
You say Foreman was not particularly devastating . . .George Foreman in his prime was possibly the hardest hitter in HW history. Such a remark shows IGNORANCE. You also say Foreman has poor boxing skills, but anyone with two eyes can see films of Foreman and Klitschko and see that whatever Klitschko does Foreman does twice as well. How many Foreman fights in from the 1970s have you seen anyway? Probably just his fight with Ali and a clip from the Frazier fight . . .don't make judgements when you don't have the background info neccesary to make them . .

If they fought today Big George would get humiliated I never want to see it happen. Vitali also would most likely have beaten the 38-45 year old versions of Foreman. Foreman in his prime would have knocked Vitali senseless within 2 rounds. Im a fan of Vitali but you just have to be realistic sometimes.

Agree,Vitaliy would have defeated Foreman.

well now, vk would win easily. back in the day, foreman would beat vk to a pulp.

To reclarify: this thread is about George fighting Vitali TODAY. As in the 55-year-old George. Personally I think if anyone had a puncher's chance it's Big George. But I wouldn't like to see it.

Foreman today would have a decent chance of catching Vitali and hurting him BAD. I don't think he has even Vitali's stamina at this stage but I would bet the power is still there. He'd be a very live underdog.

In his prime? Don't be rediculous! Foreman would KO Vitali within four or five rounds. His hands were even heavier than Vitali (watch him as he anhilates Frazier who had a good chin and Norton who was considered tough until Foreman fought him). Do you really think Vitali hits as hard as Foreman? Vitali, who couldn't finish off Lewis when he was hurt (something both McCall and Rahman could do, and Shannon Briggs almost suceeded at) and hit Corrie Sanders with everything but the kitchen sink and still couldn't get a KO? Vitali, who throws arm punches with nothing but his shoulder behind them?

Vitali is only a good (not even very good) puncher. He may have the potential to hit harder than he does, but I've never seen him do it, even when an opponent was hurt and helpless before him. He is strong (though not quite as strong as Foreman IMO), but he isn't as quick or explosive as Big George, and to say he is more skilled than a prime Foreman is just plain incorrect. Foreman was much more agile on his feet and had quicker hands as well.

Vitali is the best there is today, in what is probably the worst heavyweight era in history. People called Louis' era weak but at least there was Louis (he alone had more talented than every top ten heavyweight today combined) and at least his oponents knew the basic fundamentals of boxing and weren't there to just get hit.

The honest truth is that Abe Simmon or even Buddy Baer would have likely been very competitive with Vitali. Don't even get me started on what Max Baer or Schmeling would have done to him. :D

It would be absolutley terrible for boxing and Forman himself if he cam back at 55.

vitali is to underrated

he's very skill ful

but george foreman has lot of power
just ask joe frazier and ken norton