View Full Version : How many of the heavyweight titlists could Danny Williams beat?


!! Anorak
12-13-2004, 02:01 PM
Personally after Saturday I would never like to see Danny take on Vitali again, but I would gamble on him against Byrd and Ruiz, and count it a certainity against Brewster. But what do you reckon are his chances? (Note that I've created each choice twice, once for those familiar with Danny, and once for those not - to give us an even greater sense of people's expectations).

Note: the poll above is multiple choice, so you can vote for two or three choices should you wish.

Bombardier
12-13-2004, 02:02 PM
Does Peter McNeely own a title somewhere? He may be able to take him on :D .

scramwarrior
12-13-2004, 02:02 PM
I think he could beat Brewster, but I give him a chance against Byrd. Ruiz would win by hugging like he always does.

Bombardier
12-13-2004, 02:03 PM
Come to think of it, a fight with Byrd might be kind of interesting, and he may even have a chance. Hard to say if anyone will put him in that kind of fight anymore, though.

paulmmv
12-13-2004, 02:05 PM
in my veiw danny williams could not beat any of the champions as hes just not championship materal

!! Anorak
12-13-2004, 02:09 PM
What a dumb ass I am! I forgot to put in the "none of them" feature. God, that's what the point of multiple choice was... I wasn't supposed to put "all of them". Dumb idiot!

Bombardier
12-13-2004, 02:20 PM
What a dumb ass I am! I forgot to put in the "none of them" feature. God, that's what the point of multiple choice was... I wasn't supposed to put "all of them". Dumb idiot!

That's it, you'll be banned from this forum for sure now :D ! Don't worry about it...I forgot to put in all of the options in the "poll" I put up today.

K-Yo
12-13-2004, 02:32 PM
depeneds on which williams turns up. he got a punchers chance, against anyone, but his tactics were awful in the last fight, and he needs to come down to about 17stone.

Dude
12-13-2004, 02:32 PM
Danny Williams can't beat any of the current champions. And that does include Luan Krasniqi. He's just a medicore fighter with a good chin.

!! Anorak
12-13-2004, 02:33 PM
How much of him have you seen, Dude?

neils7147933
12-13-2004, 02:33 PM
He could beat Lamon Brewster. But that's all.

scramwarrior
12-13-2004, 02:34 PM
Danny Williams can't beat any of the current champions. And that does include Luan Krasniqi. He's just a medicore fighter with a good chin.
So I guess Lamon Brewster is not a medicore fighter with a good chin? Brewster is on the same level if not worse than Danny WIlliams.

Dude
12-13-2004, 02:42 PM
So I guess Lamon Brewster is not a medicore fighter with a good chin? Brewster is on the same level if not worse than Danny WIlliams.

I can't believe I'm actually saying that but I do believe Lamon Brewster is a better fighter than the Danny Williams that fought Vitali Klitschko last weekend.

Dude
12-13-2004, 02:46 PM
How much of him have you seen, Dude?

I've seen him fighting Kali Meehan, Julius Francis, Sinan Samil Sam, Mike Tyson and of course Vitali Klitschko.

!! Anorak
12-13-2004, 02:54 PM
Fair play, Dude, you've got some research under your belt. Yeah, Saturday's Danny Williams was not a good Danny Williams. But if Danny shouldn't be in a top ten of heavyweights active today... then name ten who are better.

Dude
12-13-2004, 03:09 PM
Fair play, Dude, you've got some research under your belt. Yeah, Saturday's Danny Williams was not a good Danny Williams. But if Danny shouldn't be in a top ten of heavyweights active today... then name ten who are better.

A'ight here we go:

1. Vitali Klitschko
2. John Ruiz
3. Chris Byrd
4. James Toney
5. Hasim Rahman
6. Luan Krasniqi
7. Sinan Samil Sam
8. Wladimir Klitschko
9. Fres Oquendo
10. Andrew Golota

Didn't list them in any meaningfull order.

QueenCity
12-13-2004, 03:17 PM
Danny Williams is pretty bad, but his heart alone would kick Lamon Brewsters ass.

leff
12-13-2004, 03:50 PM
Danny Williams is pretty bad, but his heart alone would kick Lamon Brewsters ass.

In fact a lot like Brewster only got the heart.

!! Anorak
12-13-2004, 03:58 PM
A'ight here we go:

1. Vitali Klitschko
2. John Ruiz
3. Chris Byrd
4. James Toney
5. Hasim Rahman
6. Luan Krasniqi
7. Sinan Samil Sam
8. Wladimir Klitschko
9. Fres Oquendo
10. Andrew Golota

Didn't list them in any meaningfull order.Interesting... I've never actually seen Oquendo/Krasniqi and (shock!) Golota, so I couldn't possibly comment.

I do know that he was supposed to beat Sam handily, and has the potential to do so. I genuinely believe that was an off night. As for Byrd, I'd like to see that. Technically, yeah, Byrd's better - but technically Byrd's probably better than any of them right now.

He has a puncher's chance against Rahman, though I tend to agree he'd lose. Funny you should mention Wlad, I was wondering on Saturday if that would have made a difference..

Nautilus
12-13-2004, 04:02 PM
I think Danny can have comptetive fights with

1. Byrd ( I think Byrd will take UD)
2. Ruiz (Danny will KO Ruiz)
3. Berwtster (Danny will UD Brester)

The1God
12-13-2004, 04:05 PM
He has a punchers chance, I think more of him now than I did before the fight. VK is just so difficult to fight. I think of him like a Bert Cooper or Michael Dokes. If they connect, they are going to hurt you.

!! Anorak
12-13-2004, 04:08 PM
It's interesting to see so far that more people who aren't familiar with Danny think he could beat Brewster than those that are. Though generally, people who have seen more than 4 of Danny's bouts hold him in higher esteem.

From what I've seen, he could be competitive with Byrd (if Byrd did his current tactics of standing and trading, it could be very interesting), Ruiz would probably hug that decision, and he would KO Funky Brewster.

!! Anorak
12-13-2004, 04:08 PM
Danny needed a stepladder to fight Klit.

!! Anorak
12-13-2004, 04:12 PM
Cool... peace.

Nautilus
12-13-2004, 04:13 PM
Cool... peace.


Peace. Danny is a great fighter with a lot of heart, as I stated everywhere.

!! Anorak
12-13-2004, 04:18 PM
I just wish he'd got chance to show it more on Saturday night... Vitali stopped him from working, which is his job I guess.

Nautilus
12-13-2004, 04:21 PM
I just wish he'd got chance to show it more on Saturday night... Vitali stopped him from working, which is his job I guess.



Vitaliy is very good boxer who utilizes his height in a very clever fashion.

I think Danny should have fought someone smaller.

I also think that Danny's career is far from over. I am sure there will be more fights coming his way.

BrooklynBomber
12-13-2004, 05:28 PM
Danny needed a stepladder to fight Klit.
More like Tomahawk missile(to have an equal reach) or atleast machinegun :D

The Fix
12-13-2004, 06:06 PM
where is the none of the above option. danny williams is garbage even brewster beats him

!! Anorak
12-13-2004, 06:27 PM
where is the none of the above option. danny williams is garbage even brewster beats him
Yeah, as I said, I forgot to put that like a dummy. Danny's not garbage though... Klit made him look bad.

sssse
12-13-2004, 07:03 PM
Vitali Klitscko in a rematch, Chris Byrd and John Ruiz.

Soundtraveler
12-13-2004, 07:26 PM
How many Title Holders can Danny Williams beat?



None ---- he just lost his shot....

trinidadpr87
12-13-2004, 07:27 PM
he should fight moorer.

Kimmy
12-13-2004, 07:39 PM
Klitsckos style is wrong for Williams. I Chris Byrd would have trouble with Williams because it seems the better the boxer the better byrd does. McCline wasn`t that great but gave Byrd hell, i just thik Williams has a style to make things interesting. Ruiz...well on paper Willams should win but that doesn`t matter, Don King will have bought the judges any how. I think we have seen the rematch between Klit and Danny already at the weekend. Brewster I think will beat Williams. Skill wise their about even but i have a feeling that Brewster can KO him, don`t know why but i have seen nearly all of Williams fights and thats the way it will play out!

BDBowe
12-13-2004, 07:42 PM
i may see this different, but i see williams beating ruiz losing to byrd and stopping brewster

dempseyfire
12-13-2004, 08:47 PM
I think Brewster and Williams actually are very similar. Both have a lot of heart. But I believe that Brewster is MENTALLY tougher and believes he's never out of a fight, so he'd have the upper hand against the mentally fragile Williams. Danny kept getting up but he mentally crumbled after the 1st round, and had no plan B when bullrushing Vitali didn't work for him.

The Fix
12-13-2004, 08:48 PM
Yeah, as I said, I forgot to put that like a dummy. Danny's not garbage though... Klit made him look bad.

nope tyson just made him look good. williams is as good as a bag of empty soup cans, vitali showed us this

marvdave
12-13-2004, 10:39 PM
he could beat Brewster on heart alone. I think Byrd would be able to out box him and win a decision. Ruiz unfortunately would beat him as well. We all hate Ruiz, but he keeps winning. I think Danny has had his "15" minutes.

dempseyfire
12-13-2004, 11:01 PM
How has Brewster not shown heart in his fights. Brewster also takes a bigger shot then Williams . . .

marvdave
12-14-2004, 01:13 AM
How has Brewster not shown heart in his fights. Brewster also takes a bigger shot then Williams . . .
Brewster showed great heart against Wlad. What I meant, was after seeing his last fight against Meehan, his "heart" doesn't seem to be in the game. A bit lazy and undecisive. I'm not a fan of either guy. Most likely Brewster would be the best matchup for Williams. now you got me thinking...damn you Dempsey! :cool:

phallus
12-14-2004, 04:00 AM
I think Brewster and Williams actually are very similar. Both have a lot of heart. But I believe that Brewster is MENTALLY tougher and believes he's never out of a fight, so he'd have the upper hand against the mentally fragile Williams. Danny kept getting up but he mentally crumbled after the 1st round, and had no plan B when bullrushing Vitali didn't work for him.


if danny had brewster's heart he would have went the decision, and taken an unholy beating

guru
12-14-2004, 09:22 AM
brewster would get the same ass whipping from VK that williams got.... probably worse since he beat his little bro....

moochi
12-15-2004, 03:59 AM
i think danny would have a chance against brewster........although against the others he would be outboxed...thumbs up to him though for a brave performance....people in the boxing world need to start realising more and more the difficulties in some categories when boxers are forced to fight opponents a lot taller than them, thus creating large disadvantages for them........and i think this was the case the other night

dodge
12-15-2004, 04:59 AM
I think he could beat Brewster.

markosg19
12-15-2004, 12:30 PM
i used to think he had the talent to beat anyone, but now i am not so sure. I do think that on Saturday he didn't believe he could win- either that or he had no game plan! what happened to this head movement and 'tyson' style that we were hearing about????