What do you think?

I agree with it.

"If you aren't doing drugs, there's no reason not to do it"

~MZ MVP Girl's Water Polo '04

What do you think?

I agree with it.

"If you aren't doing drugs, there's no reason not to do it"

~MZ MVP Girl's Water Polo '04


in my highschool half the football
players do steroids and know one thinks
its a big deal. i say yeah test them

I agree with steriod testing, but the thing is, they are going to test them for everything, including weed, which is going overboard IMO.

Where I live, there's not alot of that going on.
It usually goes on in "those" kind of schools.

I don't want to into what I mean by "those" either.

there wouldnt be any more hs sports if testing took place it's one thing to test for steroids but how can you exclude other drugs it wouldnt happen, so unfortunately to say I dont feel it would be right to test high school kids after hs once in college where sports actually begin to matter then test yes

I think it is a better idea than most think. Test them for every kind of drug, that way they dont start bad habbits at an early age.

What do you think?

I agree with it.

"If you aren't doing drugs, there's no reason not to do it"

~MZ MVP Girl's Water Polo '04

I think its a very good idea. Like you said, whats there to hide, if that student is clean? Besides, if they get out there (example, football field) and are on coke or crystal and it's hot enough and the workout rough enough, they could easily have heart failure. Thats just one of many possibly scenarios.....all of which wouldnt necessairly happen with the test.

Very bad idea actually. If you test the athletes and ONLY the athletes they have a good case for being discriminated against. They will cry "why not the band kids" and "how about the chess club" and so forth. If your doing it for one group of kids, you MUST do it for all. This in turn becomes the gateway for Big Brother.

I think it is a better idea than most think. Test them for every kind of drug, that way they dont start bad habbits at an early age.

Yea, but what if they come up dirty for weed? then that will go one their record and may **** up their chances of getting into a good college or something. I just think it runs the risk of ****ing up kids lives for **** they did for fun one night that was going to have no adverse affect on their lives. The punishment they could get from a policy like this would be harsher than whatthe drug they did may do to their lives. You know what I mean?

Very bad idea actually. If you test the athletes and ONLY the athletes they have a good case for being discriminated against. They will cry "why not the band kids" and "how about the chess club" and so forth. If your doing it for one group of kids, you MUST do it for all. This in turn becomes the gateway for Big Brother.


That's BS. A kid that does drugs, then does sports, like Tracylee said, is setting themselves up for heart failure or other problems. Exercising after doing some sort of drug that affects your heart, ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ORGANS IN THE BODY, is dangerous.

That and I don't want some "whacked on some drug" kid playing with my kid and getting my kid hurt.

If they come up guilty for a drug, then they will have learned their lesson, eh? Drugs aren't good for you, no matter how much you might enjoy them and think that they don't affect your daily lives or others.

I am against testing. I think whatever you do in your own time is your own business. There is no reason to own somebody 24/7. Not that I think its right for teens to do drugs, steroids... or that they shouldn't be punished if caught. It should be up to the parents to to do any testing that they feel is right. Not the school. We should be paying more attention to HS educations than sports. Spending that kind of money on drug testing is crazy. Put the money in for upgrading schools to insure our kids learning things that 99% are going to be using in day to day life.

I am against testing. I think whatever you do in your own time is your own business.


Not when what you do in your own time affects those on your team.

I don't know how to argue this with out sounding like an ass.

The drug testing should be left up to the parents, not the schools.

This is a tough one, I'd like to see steroids go away especially in highschools, but like some of the others said, what if they test positive for weed. Does anybody really know how it works because I don't? Are the tests drug specific? Perhaps if they had a test that only identified steriod chemicals then yes but otherwise absolutley not. I have smoked weed since I was 15, I have always been active, I make $20.00 an hour and get full benefits, I contribute to society ect, why should a person like me have my life ****ed over because of some test. I don't agree with the "well they'll learn there lesson" mentality, I'm in Canada so I don't have to worry about it but in america you could **** over some good people with that line of thought. People that contibute to society in a good way.

"The drug testing should be left up to the parents, not the schools."

Lol thats a good one.

Maybe if they just tested for steroid use? And left the recreation drugs use up to the parents. :D

"The drug testing should be left up to the parents, not the schools."

Lol thats a good one.How would you want it done? Take money from a budget that already suffers? Risk the minds of kids that go to school for an education and not sports?

some guy thought steriods would make his **** grow if he injected it in his penis.

some guy thought steriods would make his **** grow if he injected it in his penis.
Did it work? Just wondering. :D

defintely need steriod Testing

Maybe if they just tested for steroid use? And left the recreation drugs use up to the parents. :D


Any illegal drug is tested for. If they are using and the are under the influence during a practice time or during an event, wouldn't it matter that they were using?

Yes it would. Any of these drugs could affect the performance of the athlete. And therefore affect the team.

Sports is about teamwork, giving it your best effort and the comradarie that goes along with it is an awesome learning experience. You can't have that as good if you're stoned out of your mind.

I understand the budget issues, but I believe it's also a neccessity. We had kids last year on the team that did stupid things while high while on the team and there wasn't anything that could be done because they didn't test them last year.

This year they are. It's supposedly random, but my daughter got snagged every sport and every year. Negative each time, but the reason for her is because she has "abnormally larger pupils" so she looks stoned most of the time...lol.

Did it work? Just wondering. :D

If it did then steroid use would quadruple!

Strongly disagree.

We still like to promote the idea that we live in a free country.

Whether drugs are good for us or not isn't the point. We still don't live in an (obviously open) police state.

I suppose it's a good way to get our kids to grow accustomed to always being a suspect, but let's let them get to legal age before we throw the fact that they don't have the rights we've taught them they have.

And don't give me the bull**** "It's a privilege to play sports..bla bla bla" There are schools randomly testing kids that don't play sports. Keep in mind that going to school is a requirement for those under 16...

Any illegal drug is tested for. If they are using and the are under the influence during a practice time or during an event, wouldn't it matter that they were using?

Yes it would. Any of these drugs could affect the performance of the athlete. And therefore affect the team.

Sports is about teamwork, giving it your best effort and the comradarie that goes along with it is an awesome learning experience. You can't have that as good if you're stoned out of your mind.

I understand the budget issues, but I believe it's also a neccessity. We had kids last year on the team that did stupid things while high while on the team and there wasn't anything that could be done because they didn't test them last year.

This year they are. It's supposedly random, but my daughter got snagged every sport and every year. Negative each time, but the reason for her is because she has "abnormally larger pupils" so she looks stoned most of the time...lol.

Exactly. Steroids may make changes in the body, etc. but alot of drugs can give stamina and energy that the clean kids dont have. Then it becomes a question of "fair sportsmanship"...too deep an issue to limit the testing to steroids.

That's BS. A kid that does drugs, then does sports, like Tracylee said, is setting themselves up for heart failure or other problems. Exercising after doing some sort of drug that affects your heart, ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ORGANS IN THE BODY, is dangerous.

That and I don't want some "whacked on some drug" kid playing with my kid and getting my kid hurt.

If they come up guilty for a drug, then they will have learned their lesson, eh? Drugs aren't good for you, no matter how much you might enjoy them and think that they don't affect your daily lives or others.


...I agree with testing high schoolers 100%. It's more widespread in high schools now and it needs to stop. I also don't want some subpar kid cheating in order to compete with my superior athlete son. :)

Strongly disagree.

We still like to promote the idea that we live in a free country.

Whether drugs are good for us or not isn't the point. We still don't live in an (obviously open) police state.

I suppose it's a good way to get our kids to grow accustomed to always being a suspect, but let's let them get to legal age before we throw the fact that they don't have the rights we've taught them they have.

And don't give me the bull**** "It's a privilege to play sports..bla bla bla" There are schools randomly testing kids that don't play sports. Keep in mind that going to school is a requirement for those under 16...


Free countries dont work!

Their has to be some government control who would protect you?

Might as well just test everybody for everything then, huh? Caffeine is a stimulant and will affect performance. For anyone who uses caffeine to make it through the day, imagine not having your coffee or coke. No it is not an illegal substance but it can and does effect performance. Will the kids get thrown off the team for having ephedrine in their system? Sudaphed contains ephedrine. Imagine your son or daughter getting the boot because they took cold medication for a legit reason.

What you are not hearing, MadCrewMom, is that you CANNOT test one group of kids without testing them ALL. It is a simple case of discrimination in a public school. As i said earlier, you must test the chess club, band, yearbook staff... etc. The ONLY testing i would think about allowing is for steroids. Recreational drug use (pot, X, coke... etc) are not performance enhancers. These substances could just as easily affect the outcome of a chess meet, math meet, or cheerleader competition yet it is only the athletes that ever get mentioned. I ALWAYS played clean, but if was going to be tested I would have told them to stick it up their ass. I had no problem being tested by the government ( Army and my civilian job ) and never made an issue out of it as I understand why they test.

Too many people don't understand the ramifications here. As soon as you start giving up rights ( ie the right to privacy as in this case ) more will be taken from you.

Might as well just test everybody for everything then, huh? Caffeine is a stimulant and will affect performance. For anyone who uses caffeine to make it through the day, imagine not having your coffee or coke. No it is not an illegal substance but it can and does effect performance. Will the kids get thrown off the team for having ephedrine in their system? Sudaphed contains ephedrine. Imagine your son or daughter getting the boot because they took cold medication for a legit reason.

What you are not hearing, MadCrewMom, is that you CANNOT test one group of kids without testing them ALL. It is a simple case of discrimination in a public school. As i said earlier, you must test the chess club, band, yearbook staff... etc. The ONLY testing i would think about allowing is for steroids. Recreational drug use (pot, X, coke... etc) are not performance enhancers. These substances could just as easily affect the outcome of a chess meet, math meet, or cheerleader competition yet it is only the athletes that ever get mentioned. I ALWAYS played clean, but if was going to be tested I would have told them to stick it up their ass. I had no problem being tested by the government ( Army and my civilian job ) and never made an issue out of it as I understand why they test.

Too many people don't understand the ramifications here. As soon as you start giving up rights ( ie the right to privacy as in this case ) more will be taken from you.


Actually, if given cause to think a student is on drugs during ANY school event, they get the boot if proven.

What you don't get it that though you may have the "right" to do an illegal substance, you take away my right to be safe.

My right to be safe over rides your right to do drugs.

I say forget steriods take out all the Sodas, and junkfood vending machines from elementary, jr high, and highschools, and then you will see a cure to our obesity epidemic.

I say forget steriods take out all the Sodas, and junkfood vending machines from elementary, jr high, and highschools, and then you will see a cure to our obesity epidemic.
They've done that in Indiana

Free countries dont work!

Their has to be some government control who would protect you?
Protect us from who? What if the government is the bad guy? You of all people on this board should know that...

Actually, if given cause to think a student is on drugs during ANY school event, they get the boot if proven.

What you don't get it that though you may have the "right" to do an illegal substance, you take away my right to be safe.

My right to be safe over rides your right to do drugs.


If I or anyone else chooses to smoke pot or do any number of illegal substances in the confines of my own home or some other area that is safe ( ie nobody will be leaving while they are influenced ) it is not affecting your safety.

If I or anyone else chooses to smoke pot or do any number of illegal substances in the confines of my own home or some other area that is safe ( ie nobody will be leaving while they are influenced ) it is not affecting your safety.


But are you COMPLETELY in control of yourself while under the influence? What if you got some bad stuff? What if you mixed too many drugs and alcohol?

A lot to control for someone tripping out.

Then i guess we should just go back to prohibition if i can't be trusted to be under the influence of alcohol. First and foremost this is a parental issue. Granted not every child has grown up with good parents who instill strong morals, but I would still rather have them be responsible for making sure their kids aren't doing drugs than to leave it up to a school system.

Protect us from who? What if the government is the bad guy? You of all people on this board should know that...


government isnt all bad! when people do as they please then justice isnt served because alot of people don't have good morals or fairness.

believe it we need a government whether you like it or not.

Then i guess we should just go back to prohibition if i can't be trusted to be under the influence of alcohol. First and foremost this is a parental issue. Granted not every child has grown up with good parents who instill strong morals, but I would still rather have them be responsible for making sure their kids aren't doing drugs than to leave it up to a school system.


I agree with you that it is a parental issue, up to a point. while kids are in the care of the school system, it's up to them to insure the safety of our kids.

I've been on both sides of the fence on the issue of safety of school campuses.

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