I am thinking of getting a new car something around 14 grand. I lie in california so I going for something that is gas effecient and reasonable. I already test drove it and it is nice, I am planning on buying this one and adding some rims and stereo.

http://www.carphotoalbums.com/photos/data/874/411-med.jpg
http://www.intakeone.com/images/KENstyle/index_xB_big.jpg
http://images.businessweek.com/ss/05/03/nyautoshow/images/toyota-scion-xb.jpg

I don't like it. Too boxy for me.

I don't like it. Too boxy for me.

Pffft. I love box shape cars. I drove a volvo for a few years, ownage.

Whatever bro. Just expressing my opinion.

thanks guys, but do you have any other cars in mind?

...I think thats the ugliest ****n car I ever laid eyes on.

:?!: I didnt know they made cars like that!!!

Lol J/K.

idk man I cant say its my style but it looks like it could be pretty pimp with new rims and a sterio...

Too boxy, get a chevy colbalt SS. good on gas and zippy.

I need a good car under 17 thousand.

actually the best new cars I found for under 17 g's would be a nissan sentra, Toyota corrolla, Mazda 3i, and last but not least the bmw mini cooper.

...I think thats the ugliest ****n car I ever laid eyes on.

THANK YOU! Damn those cars are ugly as hell. Its too crappy looking and there's just no style to it!

good car under 17k, cant beat a honda civic i used to have one when i was 17 and it never gave me problems, great car had it pimped out.


then they stole it

http://a137.g.akamai.net/n/137/3538/20050811223203/www.cars.com/photo-ad/DMI/108985/TU280988.jpg


idk maybe you might like jeeps


http://a137.g.akamai.net/n/137/3538/20050510212326/www.cars.com/photo-ad/DMI/22735/NP4194A.jpg

maybe a conv mustang?


http://cars0.ipixmedia.com/abc/cars/_CARS_252c78e23b62ea62d29ec964025e12c8/i-1_T3.JPG

Maybe classy lexus?



http://a137.g.akamai.net/n/137/3538/20050803045113/www.cars.com/photo-ad/DMI/108674/4523.jpg

Mitzubishis have been popular lately...




Well what I did was search MSN used cars. Theyre good cars, all fairly new but better than you could buy if it was brand new. They're all under $16k and I think theyre all before the year 2000.

good car under 17k, cant beat a honda civic i used to have one when i was 17 and it never gave me problems, great car had it pimped out.


then they stole it
i really dont like the civics that much but i do like how the accords look

When buying an "economy" car. I would suggest a Honda or Toyota, they seem to hold their value pretty damn good, comparitivly to other makes. I think the fastes depreciating cars would have to be Kia's.

Actually I am not gonna ever buy HONDA they get stolen to much, and jeeps as well. Mitsubishi it is hard to find a good mechanic to fix them.

Thanks guys for your input if anyone can post some pics of some trendy new cars for a decent price that would be nice. I was wondering about those nissan xterras are they any good? what about the saturn Vue suv I heard that is pretty good.

Whatever bro. Just expressing my opinion.

I nearly **** myself laughing when I read that for some reason.

Scion tc:Like 18g's
http://www.capscion.com/images/tc_long.jpg

Scion tc:Like 18g's
http://www.capscion.com/images/tc_long.jpg


man that is nice! but to expensive.

good car under 17k, cant beat a honda civic i used to have one when i was 17 and it never gave me problems, great car had it pimped out.


then they stole it
honda civics are for lil' *****es! i hate when ppl will put an intake and an exhaust on civics and think they're a racer cuz of that Vtec bull****! torqueless POS

honda civics are for lil' *****es! i hate when ppl will put an intake and an exhaust on civics and think they're a racer cuz of that Vtec bull****! torqueless POS

My thought exactly, minus the grammar.

My thought exactly, minus the grammar.
finally sumone agrees wit me. all honda's are gay(except prelude, and da S2000). lemme rephrase dat...they're not gay but they are gay if you think you're automatically gonna beat sum1 with Vtec. the thing with Vtec is that is only kicks in when you hit the higher RPM's and if you start like **** on the line ur ****ed cuz it'll take you longer before you can hit Vtec and get your full power. Vtec....Garbage

Honda Civics are the best bet under 20grand followed by the Corolla.

Now I love my Civic because of the great gas mileage I get and the room in it fits me well...Plus it is reliable and well built. I am not into that modding crap, I am to broke for it and it doesnt appeal to me. If I were to spend money on a P.O.S. ricer like my Civic and then dump more money than the car originally cost me to make it "look" cool. I would just put that towards a cooler car....But "cool" isnt what I am buying a car for. But for under 20 grand you cant beat a Honda or a Toyota.....

In closing those Scion cars are bad ass...Plus they are priced respectively at 16 grand.

Man,

That car will scare *****es away hahahahahaha!
Get like a nice cheap car then...get like a mitsubishi or somethin not 2005 though

finally sumone agrees wit me. all honda's are gay(except prelude, and da S2000). lemme rephrase dat...they're not gay but they are gay if you think you're automatically gonna beat sum1 with Vtec. the thing with Vtec is that is only kicks in when you hit the higher RPM's and if you start like **** on the line ur ****ed cuz it'll take you longer before you can hit Vtec and get your full power. Vtec....Garbage


I agree! that is why I would never buy no honda something about it just doesnt attract me or maybe cause its so generic and the most popular car in america.

Well guys Their is no changing my mind I am buying the scion in midnight blue. My reasons for buying it are simple its an all around great car and I like boxy styles cause my family has an astro and I liked that van.

Well you cant beat 31 mpg on the street, and 35 mpg on the freeway. The engine aint that powerful but I am not really looking for power.

Plus I might pimp the car with a good stereo and some dvd players on the blinds.

Westcoast customs style PIMP that RIDE!
http://www.westcoastcustoms.com/Showroom/Images/Cars/Silver_Scion/DSC_0007.jpg
http://www.westcoastcustoms.com/Showroom/Images/Cars/Silver_Scion/DSC_0035.jpg
http://www.westcoastcustoms.com/Showroom/Images/Cars/Silver_Scion/DSC_0001.jpg
http://www.baycityscions.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10009/normal_IMG_0173.JPG

Ever drive the Mitisbishi Lancer OZ?

FUN!!!! hehehehe :D

They got piss poor reliability and safety ratings infact the 2004 model came out to be better than the 2005 model...Stay away from a new car company like that....Purchase a car from a company that is established, you will only run into problems...

They got piss poor reliability and safety ratings infact the 2004 model came out to be better than the 2005 model...Stay away from a new car company like that....Purchase a car from a company that is established, you will only run into problems...

Serious!!! thanks man for telling me, do you have the reports? looks like those guys at motor trend and edmonds are *****es for giving this car a most wanted mark.

Ever drive the Mitisbishi Lancer OZ?

FUN!!!! hehehehe :D


I bet it is but the problem is my folks tell me that mitsubishi is a bad company for some reason and its hard to find a mechanic.

The one car That is ugly but has really really good handling is that impreza wrx

Yeah...People who fell into Kia learned the hard way.

Serious!!! thanks man for telling me, do you have the reports? looks like those guys at motor trend and edmonds are *****es for giving this car a most wanted mark.


http://www.jdpower.com

The most respected automobile rating company in the industry.

http://www.jdpower.com

The most respected automobile rating company in the industry.


thanks man! do you have any input on a good economy car that is not for old people? I want something that looks cool ya know with an artsy feel.

I bet it is but the problem is my folks tell me that mitsubishi is a bad company for some reason and its hard to find a mechanic.

The one car That is ugly but has really really good handling is that impreza wrx


We haven't had any problems yet, but we go to the dealer if we do.

It is expensive on ins.

Yeah...People who fell into Kia learned the hard way.


Yes this is true but the same people who fell for Kia there parents probably fell for Hyundai who is respected now and builds pretty good cars. Same goes for Toyota and Honda both of those brands were trashed to hell especially for Toyota because they came around when "American was the heart of it all for automobiles" and nobody wanted to accept a japanese car.....Honda was rated horribly in the mid 90's and just in recent times have gained respect because there are plenty of Hondas being driven around with over 200k miles.....

In fact a dealership in my area is offering a Honda warranty covering up to 200k miles...Pretty bold statement but you get what you pay for and I know that car will last.

thanks man! do you have any input on a good economy car that is not for old people? I want something that looks cool ya know with an artsy feel.


Toyota or Honda....Just that simple...I didnt want to get one because "everyone" had one but I mean damn they are well built cars.

What happened to Daewoo?
The imitation Toyota.

Toyota or Honda....Just that simple...I didnt want to get one because "everyone" had one but I mean damn they are well built cars.


Those are perfect...

Awesome car to soup up as well..

the toyota Supra twin turbo is pretty kool for me...just get abig front mount intercooler and a bigger turbo....fun fun fun

What happened to Daewoo?
The imitation Toyota.


They are not even in the automobile business...They dove worst than Kia...When you offer a new car for 6 grand and offer a 1 year warranty you are bound to go under....You cant sell a car without standing behind it...Plus nobody wants to work on them.

Shame on GM for taking them under their wing...But then again all american is garbage.

i'm gonna buy a NIssan 240sx and drop a Sr20 engine in it(thats the silvia engine from japan...its turbo)

They are not even in the automobile business...They dove worst than Kia...When you offer a new car for 6 grand and offer a 1 year warranty you are bound to go under....You cant sell a car without standing behind it...Plus nobody wants to work on them.

Shame on GM for taking them under their wing...But then again all american is garbage.
oh so very true

What happened to Daewoo?
The imitation Toyota.


**** a DAEWOO! and a KIA!

Those are some ****ttttty cars!

The best all around economy car is SATURN in my opinion but the problem is its for parents and family people ya know so I am going with either the scion xb 2006 or the 2004.

But I will go with the 2004 because I agree with sphinx sometimes the new car companys have problems, and it also goes with brand new cars it is better to wait a year and see and see what kinda tests and complaints the car has. just like with my cell phone I got that brand new lg and then it sucked, but then a couple months later they fixed it do to customer complaints. The sad thing is they make customers like test dummies.

i'm gonna buy a NIssan 240sx and drop a Sr20 engine in it(thats the silvia engine from japan...its turbo)
buy a 91-95 turbo MR2 instead man

Are those GMC SUVs any good?
Like the Yukon Denali, Envoy, etc.....they look good, but are they any good?

I'd try and get a few extra grand and buy a hybrid. The Civic and Accord hybrids look just like the regular ones, so... That's what I want to get, when I buy a new car. **** looks, at $3 a gallon for gas, I want something that's going to last me a while per tank, and almost 50 mpg is ****ing good.

i'm gonna buy a NIssan 240sx and drop a Sr20 engine in it(thats the silvia engine from japan...its turbo)


You mean You wish you can buy that car! aint that **** rare?

But get with that old school mazda rx

buy a 91-95 turbo MR2 instead man
yea i'm thinking about one of those too but idk cuz the mid-engine it has...is it hard to work on cuz i've never worked on a mid-engine car

I'd try and get a few extra grand and buy a hybrid. The Civic and Accord hybrids look just like the regular ones, so... That's what I want to get, when I buy a new car. **** looks, at $3 a gallon for gas, I want something that's going to last me a while per tank, and almost 50 mpg is ****ing good.


I wanted to get one of those hybrids too but the dealer said he deosnt have any! In california they always lack environmental **** kinda funny too since we need that stuff the most.

Honda Civics are the best bet under 20grand followed by the Corolla.

Now I love my Civic because of the great gas mileage I get and the room in it fits me well...Plus it is reliable and well built. I am not into that modding crap, I am to broke for it and it doesnt appeal to me. If I were to spend money on a P.O.S. ricer like my Civic and then dump more money than the car originally cost me to make it "look" cool. I would just put that towards a cooler car....But "cool" isnt what I am buying a car for. But for under 20 grand you cant beat a Honda or a Toyota.....

In closing those Scion cars are bad ass...Plus they are priced respectively at 16 grand.

They're Toyota, too, just in case anyone didn't know that. Scion is made by Toyota, so you're probably getting a pretty decent car out of it.

You mean You wish you can buy that car! aint that **** rare?

But get with that old school mazda rx
imma buy it off my cousin...my dad has an Rx-8, and my bro's gurl has an '87 Rx-7, but she dropped a special JDM motor in it so she can now beat Impreza Sti's. also my cousin Ely used to have a hot ass '93 Rx-7 twin turbo. he put a bigger turbo and intercooler and intercooler piping...he was boosting 17 psi(not good for his car...too much) but his gurl crashed it so he broke up wit her

They're Toyota, too, just in case anyone didn't know that. Scion is made by Toyota, so you're probably getting a pretty decent car out of it.


But the thing with that is Scion is owned by Toyota but it doesnt have the same manufacturers and engineers working on there cars....

Kia is owned by Hyundai as well....Hyundai makes some pretty decent automobiles now.

Are those GMC SUVs any good?
Like the Yukon Denali, Envoy, etc.....they look good, but are they any good?

Well, they're the exact same SUV as Chevy's are, so... Also, the ratings done on those are not held to as high of a standard as those for cars, so they probably aren't as safe as people like to make them seem.

Other than that, you're gonna pay an arm and a leg for gas. Say hello to 8 mpg.

They're as good as any other Chevy or GMC, I suppose.

But the thing with that is Scion is owned by Toyota but it doesnt have the same manufacturers and engineers working on there cars....

Kia is owned by Hyundai as well....Hyundai makes some pretty decent automobiles now.

Really? I was kind of wondering what was going on with Scion and such. I mean, all the Jap cars have those "two levels" kind of. Toyota and Lexus, Nissan and Infinity, Honda and Acura, you know what I mean? I was wondering wtf Toyota was doing with a third, but seemingly lower company name.

Whatever bro. Just expressing my opinion.
sunny sign me up for the nfl pick'em

Really? I was kind of wondering what was going on with Scion and such. I mean, all the Jap cars have those "two levels" kind of. Toyota and Lexus, Nissan and Infinity, Honda and Acura, you know what I mean? I was wondering wtf Toyota was doing with a third, but seemingly lower company name.


Scion will never catch on there cars are designed with a european look and will never appeal to the U.S. buyers....Which is fine a lot of companies make different models in different countries...I mean the best fords are built out of Germany and we are not talking about the focus nor the 500 model.

Looks like a shoe box.

Scion will never catch on there cars are designed with a european look and will never appeal to the U.S. buyers....Which is fine a lot of companies make different models in different countries...I mean the best fords are built out of Germany and we are not talking about the focus nor the 500 model.

The one Scion will. The one that looks a lot like the Celica.

The one Scion will. The one that looks a lot like the Celica.


That car is nice, I want one...My g/f is in the market for a new car and I have really tried to convince her to get one...But she insists on a damn Civic.....


I hope the Scion does well they are promising but I mean when they do build a name they will ****e the prices....I noticed Kia has improved there Rio which started out at $6495 but since been improved is now carrying a $7999 tag stripped down.

Really? I was kind of wondering what was going on with Scion and such. I mean, all the Jap cars have those "two levels" kind of. Toyota and Lexus, Nissan and Infinity, Honda and Acura, you know what I mean? I was wondering wtf Toyota was doing with a third, but seemingly lower company name.


ya Its called economy line and luxury line.

Toyota affordable line and their luxury line is Lexus

Honda is the affordable line and their luxury line is ACURA.

That car is nice, I want one...My g/f is in the market for a new car and I have really tried to convince her to get one...But she insists on a damn Civic.....


I hope the Scion does well they are promising but I mean when they do build a name they will ****e the prices....I noticed Kia has improved there Rio which started out at $6495 but since been improved is now carrying a $7999 tag stripped down.


The TC is nice but since you aint into modding your car then the 4 cylinder engine is not a powerful one! but it is nice.
I actually want this car more then the xb but its around 18 g's and the insurance is higher since its a sporty car.
http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/06/sciontc05_01.jpg

ya Its called economy line and luxury line.

Toyota affordable line and their luxury line is Lexus

Honda is the affordable line and their luxury line is ACURA.

Yeah, I couldn't remember the actual terms for it.

Yeah, I couldn't remember the actual terms for it.


Its kinda funny cause Honda got some expensive cars like the prelude and s model.

I like Nissan all around though! I wish I could get a used 350z.
Their luxury line is infiniti.

Its kinda funny cause Honda got some expensive cars like the prelude and s model.

I like Nissan all around though! I wish I could get a used 350z.
Their luxury line is infiniti.

I heard Nissan was bought out by some French company. I have nothing to back that up with, though. It's just hearsay.

Also, they stopped making Preludes a while ago.

I have driven one before they dont have alot of pick up and arent fast but they are efficient and comfortable. Their biggest problem is the fact they dont rate very high on the crash safety tests. It's also good if you decide to get one now because they plan on moving up to 20000 in the next two years, due to them being made by toyota and they are almost equal in some models. Go for it man especially if you like doing mods for them, you can go to scion.com and build one with all your mods you want on it they have like 32 custom accessories you can choose from. Good luck on your search

I have driven one before they dont have alot of pick up and arent fast but they are efficient and comfortable. Their biggest problem is the fact they dont rate very high on the crash safety tests. It's also good if you decide to get one now because they plan on moving up to 20000 in the next two years, due to them being made by toyota and they are almost equal in some models. Go for it man especially if you like doing mods for them, you can go to scion.com and build one with all your mods you want on it they have like 32 custom accessories you can choose from. Good luck on your search


Ya I probally aint gonna get one! I talked with my folks and they said they would help me out to get a Scion Tc I looked at the ratings at J.D power and they got 5 star ratings and it has a bit more horses.



http://www.discountpartcenter.com/photos/06-08-04-01-Scion-tC.jpg

get an R34(skyline GTR)...hot **** right there

The TC is nice but since you aint into modding your car then the 4 cylinder engine is not a powerful one! but it is nice.
I actually want this car more then the xb but its around 18 g's and the insurance is higher since its a sporty car.
http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/06/sciontc05_01.jpg


Any 2 door car insurance is going to be high.....Unfortunately so. My civic has a 4 cyclinder and it is considered a sports car by the insurance agency..I laughed in there face, but I guess the joke is on me with insurance running $200.00 a month.

Too bubbly looking for my taste. The landscape backdrop is nice though.

They are not even in the automobile business...They dove worst than Kia...When you offer a new car for 6 grand and offer a 1 year warranty you are bound to go under....You cant sell a car without standing behind it...Plus nobody wants to work on them.

Shame on GM for taking them under their wing...But then again all american is garbage.
They still make cars in asia and are known as GM Daewoo. They do not inport into the US but they do sell cars in other parts of the world, including Europe (but badged as Chevy's).

I do not mind the Scions but If I had to keep it under $17,000 I think I would buy used and get a much better car.

They still make cars in asia and are known as GM Daewoo. They do not inport into the US but they do sell cars in other parts of the world, including Europe (but badged as Chevy's).


There are alot of automobile companies we never hear of especially in Korea. The fact is the cars they brought over here were HORRIBLE! I stated in a previous post though that Ford makes better cars overseas than they push off on us americans.

Don't like it one bit but hey different strokes for different folks.

You canhave this car for under 16 grand.

http://www.vettesndreamcars.com/photos/65_Chevy_Impala.jpg

You canhave this car for under 16 grand.

http://www.vettesndreamcars.com/photos/65_Chevy_Impala.jpg

Man I love classic cars but I need to think about other factors, like gas, and efficiency! that impala would take my whole paycheck and plus I know nothing about classic car engines and I know If I get a mechanic for that they would charge me a grip.

I almost bought a mustang 1967 and the guy said it needed all this stuff I was like **** he was selling me the car for 5 grand, and then he said it would cost 15 grand to fix up.

I am going to the dealer today I will get the scion xb over the tc because sphinks is right about the insurance being high for a sports car, and I could just change the intake of the scion xb and add 30 more hp and put my own dvd and stereo in the scion.

I am still thinking if I should go for the 2004 or the 2006 xb cause the 2005 didnt get a good score by jdpower.

That sounds good. Congrats on the new car man.

That sounds good. Congrats on the new car man.


Ya I will tell you guys how it goes.

But If I get it I am for sure gonna change the intake and put a custom aem intake this one, it would add about 25 to 30 more horses to the car.

http://www.overboost.com/obs/product/injen_IS2100.jpg

^that alone adds 25-30 horses...u sure aboutdat one? wat brand is dat injen?

if you do that, buy sum headers, and get ur exhaust done custom.(save exhaust for later on when ur pushing out sum real power). instead of gettin dat intake get a cold air intake. put a turbo(or supercharger) on it wit a HUGE fricken Frontmount intercooler

if you do that, buy sum headers, and get ur exhaust done custom.(save exhaust for later on when ur pushing out sum real power). instead of gettin dat intake get a cold air intake. put a turbo(or supercharger) on it wit a HUGE fricken Frontmount intercooler


^Ya I am thinking of adding that on my options! here is the list of options they give for the scion xb which ones should I put?

http://www.scionofglendale.com/Scion-Accessories.aspx
^^^^^^^^
Click this link and tell me what is good to add on the PERFORMANCE section.

^Ya I am thinking of adding that on my options! here is the list of options they give for the scion xb which ones should I put?

http://www.scionofglendale.com/Scion-Accessories.aspx
^^^^^^^^
Click this link and tell me what is good to add on the PERFORMANCE section.

sweet! the only thing they didnt have was headers, but i admit...scion does offer a ****load of optional features

sweet! the only thing they didnt have was headers, but i admit...scion does offer a ****load of optional features


Scroll down to the section that says performance what do you think I should add? the exhaust? Cold Air Indution System?

http://media.supload.com/dl/confirm.php?get=1110771060.wmv

^differnt exhausts for the scion tc.

http://www.g4tv.com/mediaplayer/index.aspx?video_key=7244
^The Scion Xb.

Scroll down to the section that says performance what do you think I should add? the exhaust? Cold Air Indution System?
definately go wit the cold-air. also, save the exhaust for when you get a bit more pwer cuz if not it wont sound too good.

TRD Quickshifter, TRD Shocks/Struts,

TRD Lowering Springs, TRD Sport Clutch

Man I know nothing about cars so how would I get this tuff installed? at the dealer or what?

So if the car is standard 108 horse power, what would help increase it? the cold air indution system how many hp would that add to it?

Man I know nothing about cars so how would I get this tuff installed? at the dealer or what?

So if the car is standard 108 horse power, what would help increase it? the cold air indution system how many hp would that add to it?
i think you could go either to a dealership or garage to get tha t installed.

and it depends on what car you have...two different cars might get a defferent amount of horsepower from a cold air intake.

i think you could go either to a dealership or garage to get tha t installed.

and it depends on what car you have...two different cars might get a defferent amount of horsepower from a cold air intake.


Well Scion Xb. Should I just wait and drive the base model for now until I have money saved to soup it up?

Well Scion Xb. Should I just wait and drive the base model for now until I have money saved to soup it up?
sure...just put a cold air on it though. i think its better for your engine too cuz its cooling it down wit dat cold air

sure...just put a cold air on it though. i think its better for your engine too cuz its cooling it down wit dat cold air


cool, Will that help it on the freeway? how many horses you think will it give? like 10 hp?


Man how do you know some much about cars?

cool, Will that help it on the freeway? how many horses you think will it give? like 10 hp?


Man how do you know some much about cars?
prolly sumwhere around tenor less. my brother sed like 8. depends on what brand the intake is.

i learned all dis **** about cars from my brothers. we sumtimes go to hartford and race.

and yea it will help slightly on the freeway...any extra power will help ya on da freeeway

There are alot of automobile companies we never hear of especially in Korea. The fact is the cars they brought over here were HORRIBLE! I stated in a previous post though that Ford makes better cars overseas than they push off on us americans.
I have to agree. A prime example of this id the Euro market Focus. It is a very well built car that recieves all kinds of acclaim but we still get the POS Focus they have built here for years. :mad: