View Full Version : kell brook, john murray?
Pooch 08-16-2005, 04:36 AM has anyone seen them fight? read this months boxing monthly and they say they are both hot prospects. apparantly the americans loved john n his last fight in america and brook could be better than amir khan! i hope they reach there potential and finally bring british boxing right back up there.........
barryboy 08-16-2005, 04:58 AM I haven't seen Brook but I've saw Murray a couple of times and he didn't really impress me at first but he looked good in his last fight in the States, even though the opponent had a losing record he would fire back whenever Murray tried to get on top so he wasn't laying down and the crowd did seem to enjoy the action so he obviously has a crowd pleasing style, I heard them talk of a rivalry with Kevin Mitchell so that could be a nice fight further down the road but if Murray's with Warren I doubt he'll put them in together any time soon, don't know who i'd favour but both guys are a little upright and I don't think Mitchell's defence is the best so it'd be interesting :boxing:
Pooch 08-16-2005, 06:56 AM what sort of style does he have because its quite suprising it appeals to the US!
barryboy 08-16-2005, 09:20 AM I'd say he's more of a 'fighter' rather than a 'boxer' and he throws plenty of shots so there's not much to dislike at this stage in his career unless your being very picky but as with most prospects i'd like to see him in with an opponent i'm a bit more familiar with so I can get a better idea but at this stage can't complain.
Pooch 08-16-2005, 09:34 AM well fingers crossed for our boys hopefully british will pick up!
elveiel 08-16-2005, 02:18 PM I thought you were talking about the other British talent
http://www.nhlf.de/gallery/albums/DesktopGirls/Kelly_Brook_490155823PM662.sized.jpg
Pooch 08-16-2005, 04:26 PM damn shes fine!
majestiC 08-16-2005, 10:30 PM lol murray seemed to me that he is a winkey wright type of peek a boo fighter not a all out crazy mofo!?
barryboy 08-17-2005, 08:23 AM lol murray seemed to me that he is a winkey wright type of peek a boo fighter not a all out crazy mofo!?
I only said he was aggressive, hardly an all out crazy mofo :D The only thing that is similar to Winky is he holds his hands pretty high, but that's about it, I'd describe Winky as a flatfooted boxer but I wouldn't describe Murray as a boxer type at all, he's got the hands up but walking forward throwing shots in an aggressive style :boxing:
Box fighter.
two words and simply describe murray's style.
barryboy 08-17-2005, 09:08 AM Box fighter.
two words and simply describe murray's style.
There you go complicating things J :D
What's the score with Brook? have you saw/heard anything about him?
barryboy 08-17-2005, 09:19 AM Box fighter.
two words and simply describe murray's style.
Trust you to complicate things J :D
Have you saw or heard anything on Brook?
barryboy 08-17-2005, 09:20 AM What's going on :confused: :rolleyes:
Martin (Top Knowledge) 08-17-2005, 09:47 AM Well, from the Murray fight on the Lacy vs Reid undercard... I'd say he looked alright, but is a little feather-fisted.
I'm sure Mitchell and Khan would have KO'ed that Kelly guy if they'd been in there.
I will now act like some other posters on this site: "From my boxing Worldly observation of Murray, (not mentioning I've only seen one of his fights!), I will tear him to pieces! And start by saying, HE'LL NEVER BECOME WORLD CLASS! He needs to learn how to widen his stance so as to get more power into his shots. He seemed a little fatigued towards the end... He should be eating a low protein diet! And he needs to blah, blah, this and blah, blah, that!"... (I can come up with his whole life history from watching one of his fights)
LOL!... ;)
barryboy 08-17-2005, 10:08 AM :D Quality.
barryboy 08-25-2005, 07:14 PM Here's a Sports Network Press Release on Brook.
Sports Network is delighted to announce that it has captured the signature of one of the hottest young talents in British boxing: "Kid" Kell Brook. The 18-year-old Sheffield prospect joins boxing's premier promotional organisation and will spearhead the future of the sport alongside the likes of the sensational Olympic Silver Medallist Amir Khan and the 2003 ABA Champion Kevin Mitchell..
Brook, currently undefeated in pro-eight starts, will make his Sports Network debut on the star-studded undercard of Joe Calzaghe's WBO World Super-Middleweight title defence against Evans Ashira on September 10 at the Cardiff International Arena.
The charismatic teenager is already receiving accolades from some of the sports most respected quarters. Most recently, Boxing News (August 12) carried a full-page article on the young talent. Now, after signing for Sports Network he will receive the full backing of Frank Warren's publicity machine and gain the valuable terrestrial TV exposure required to turn him into a major household name.
Warren enthused, "I am very, very excited to have Kell on board as I have heard so much about him from people in the game whose opinion I respect,"
He continued, "His father and I had a discussion about Kell and we shared the same ideas on how best to develop him,"
"I am looking forward to working with them building this exciting talent,"
"Brendan Ingle has given him a tremendous build up of late and made the obvious comparisons with a young Naz and now Amir Khan,"
"I am confident that Kell can go all the way and will represent the next generation of British Boxing superstars along with Amir Khan and Kevin Mitchell,"
"These are very exciting times and the future looks very bright indeed."
Fans who have yet to see the talent of Brook at first hand will immediately recognise the heavy-handed switch-hitting style that has been honed at Brendan Ingle's famous Wincobank gym since the age of nine. He will bring back memories of a young Naseem Hamed who, himself, is a big fan of the Sheffield youngster.
Despite learning his trade under the tutelage of the Ingle dynasty, Brook has decided to pursue fresh avenues to reach his goal of first British and then world championships. Following an amicable parting with former Manager John Ingle, Brook will now be trained by former Central Area Champion Dave Coldwell, himself a product of the Ingle gym and will now be managed by Warren. He will train alongside record-breaking Lonsdale Belt winner Ryan Rhodes at the Koncrete gym in Sheffield.
"Quite simply, I want to be a world champion and be famous, like Naz," Said Brook.
"Teaming up with Frank was the logical step. I want to be the best so I need the best behind me and Frank has proven himself so with his backing I can do the same,"
"Frank can guide my career whilst I can concentrate on training and fighting. Brendan, John and Dominic have helped me get this far and have nurtured me from the age of 9 through the amateurs and as a novice professional."
He added, "They will have my gratitude always and we will remain friends, however, from a personal and business prospective, I felt I needed to step up a level and create a new challenge and with Frank's help feel I can achieve what I set out to do when I first laced a glove."
New trainer Dave Coldwell said, "I was amazed to get the call inviting me to train Kell Brook, he is a fantastic talent and could, if he works hard, be one of the best to come from Sheffield,"
"I don't want to add to the pressure already being heaped on Kell from some quarters but I feel he can emulate what Herol 'Bomber' Graham and Naz did for the City and make sure Sheffield stay's on the boxing map for many years to come,"
"I remember clearly the day Kell walked into Brendan's Gym as a raw kid and immediately everyone thought hang-on, this kid has talent, real talent.
"Ask any of them, Naz, Johnny both are World Champions and they will tell you - this kid can fight,"
"I am so excited about working with him and with Frank's support and Sports Network behind him he can become a huge star."
Calzaghe headlines the show with the 17th defence of his title against Ashira and special attraction on the undercard features Olympic Silver Medallist Amir Khan in his second professional fight against Baz Carey to be televised live on ITV1.
The rest of the undercard features an exciting welterweight clash between Belfast hitter Neil Sinclair and Cardiff's Lee 'Taz' Jones for the Vacant Celtic crown.
Finally, Pontypool's unbeaten welterweight Tony Doherty, Rhondda Valley light-welter Barrie Jones, Newbridge welterweight Nathan Cleverley and Merthyr middleweight Kerry Hope complete the card.
Clegg 11-16-2008, 06:33 AM Murray is good, but Brook is a cut above IMO.
JulioCesaChavez 11-16-2008, 03:55 PM they should leave sports network and inprove the level of competition they are facing. I can't imagine Warren making the big fights happen for these kids, to test their mettle which is how great fighters are made.
adietheforestfa 11-16-2008, 05:47 PM Murray is good. he demolished lee meagre in his last fight. he will go far imo
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