View Full Version : Training in 20oz. gloves? (like Andre Berto - Video)


boxingsmash69
11-03-2010, 02:10 AM
I'm sure many of you have seen Berto's punch mitt video when he was training in 20oz white Everlast gloves for the Quintana fight.

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What is your take on training in gloves as heavy as 20oz?

I hear it's bad to spar in gloves over 18oz because of unrealistic defense, having a bigger "shield". I believe Cotto spars in 20oz gloves, and that's probably why his guard is so open down the middle during his fights, especially to uppercuts.


Has anyone noticed any benefits from training in bigger gloves?

I know the standard is 12oz-16oz.

As for me, I have spent 3 weeks using ONLY 18oz gloves on the bag/mitts, and I only use 16oz in sparring. I definitely feel the 16oz. being a bit lighter, thus, easier to move my hands in them.

I'm debating on going with 20oz. for my usual bag/mitt training, but sticking with 16oz to spar.

Boxfan12
11-03-2010, 02:15 AM
Ive used 18 and 20 OZ on the bag and mitts. I always sparred with 16 OZ no more no less.


I use the bigger gloves only for condition.

Equilibrium
11-03-2010, 02:38 AM
I'm a heavyweight and forced to spar with 18 oz gloves and i hate it, they feel to big, it's hard to fit punches in openings, like punching between somebody's gloves. And it's too easy to just cover up to make your partner not able to land anything clean.

I really don't see the necessity for smaller guys to use anything over 16, it could easily mess up your technique.

I spar with 18 oz and do everything else with 16 oz.

JM1
11-03-2010, 09:59 AM
I'm sure many of you have seen Berto's punch mitt video when he was training in 20oz white Everlast gloves for the Quintana fight.

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What is your take on training in gloves as heavy as 20oz?

I hear it's bad to spar in gloves over 18oz because of unrealistic defense, having a bigger "shield". I believe Cotto spars in 20oz gloves, and that's probably why his guard is so open down the middle during his fights, especially to uppercuts.


Has anyone noticed any benefits from training in bigger gloves?

I know the standard is 12oz-16oz.

As for me, I have spent 3 weeks using ONLY 18oz gloves on the bag/mitts, and I only use 16oz in sparring. I definitely feel the 16oz. being a bit lighter, thus, easier to move my hands in them.

I'm debating on going with 20oz. for my usual bag/mitt training, but sticking with 16oz to spar.

it depends on how much you weigh. i fight at 135-147 and im using 14oz gloves

KMFO
11-03-2010, 11:01 AM
For bag and mitt work, 20 or 22 oz gloves are great for conditioning, but like others have said, sparring and such with them does kinda give you false security

Boxfan12
11-03-2010, 06:53 PM
I train in a old school gym... I won't sparr with any one unless they have the same size gloves. We train with 16 oz . and we fight with 10 oz and 8 oz.

CiganoBoxer
11-03-2010, 07:19 PM
I spar and train in 14oz twins ...**** those big arsed gloves :beerchug:

boxingsmash69
11-03-2010, 08:13 PM
I spar and train in 14oz twins ...**** those big arsed gloves :beerchug:

Any reason for disapproving of heavier gloves?

From what I heard, your boy Calzaghe also used 20oz gloves in training. I remember seeing training footage of Calzaghe wearing oddly oversized gloves on the bags. I'm sure it's not the only factor, but look at the handspeed of Berto and Calzaghe, very fast for their weight classes.

Even if "science" finalizes that training in heavier gloves, then fighting in gloves half of the size does not improve handspeed, and if it's just a "placebo" effect, maybe that mentality (even if false) is a big plus in mental confidence anyways? Seems like a win situation to me.

JM1
11-03-2010, 10:03 PM
I spar and train in 14oz twins ...**** those big arsed gloves :beerchug:

nice. i use the same :cool2:

Cuauhtémoc1520
11-04-2010, 05:38 PM
I make my guys train with 16oz gloves and spar with the same size. There are 2 guys that spar with 20oz gloves but I don't see any reason to use 10-12oz gloves in training or sparring.

The point is you want to train, make your conditioning better. Also sparring with small gloves is retarded, why would you want to risk a cut before a fight.

Bullrush
11-04-2010, 05:47 PM
have you ever looked at the guy, hes in phenomenal shape and he looks like a tank. hes been boxing forever. why dont people understand that what pros do dont work for what joe shmoe does...

CiganoBoxer
11-04-2010, 07:15 PM
Any reason for disapproving of heavier gloves?

From what I heard, your boy Calzaghe also used 20oz gloves in training. I remember seeing training footage of Calzaghe wearing oddly oversized gloves on the bags. I'm sure it's not the only factor, but look at the handspeed of Berto and Calzaghe, very fast for their weight classes.

Even if "science" finalizes that training in heavier gloves, then fighting in gloves half of the size does not improve handspeed, and if it's just a "placebo" effect, maybe that mentality (even if false) is a big plus in mental confidence anyways? Seems like a win situation to me.I ent calzaghe tho :D

CiganoBoxer
11-04-2010, 07:21 PM
nice. i use the same :cool2:
Yeah i got the twins with the flames on...i only bought them cause one of my mates told me about them hes an mma fighter and swears by them ..they feel great on and seem so well made :boxing:

M3RRY
11-30-2010, 01:00 PM
I make my guys train with 16oz gloves and spar with the same size. There are 2 guys that spar with 20oz gloves but I don't see any reason to use 10-12oz gloves in training or sparring.

The point is you want to train, make your conditioning better. Also sparring with small gloves is retarded, why would you want to risk a cut before a fight.
I also use 16 oz gloves, you made a good point about risking a cut from sparring using smaller gloves just before a fight. Good thing to keep in mind, nice post.

Verstyle
11-30-2010, 01:10 PM
I usually train with 16s and spar with 16s or 18s

Kevin714
11-30-2010, 02:02 PM
i use 14 oz gloves and so does my friend. it makes you worry about getting hit more

putaloco
11-30-2010, 03:09 PM
have you ever looked at the guy, hes in phenomenal shape and he looks like a tank. hes been boxing forever. why dont people understand that what pros do dont work for what joe shmoe does...
why not? wtf?

Pony Boy
11-30-2010, 04:02 PM
You should also take a look at the brand of glove because the Everlast gloves maybe 20 oz but they look more like 16 oz compare to other brands.