View Full Version : Middle knuckle hurts


Vitez
11-02-2010, 04:16 PM
Hi guys,

I will see a specialist and I also want to hear your opinion on the issue...my middle knuckle on my right hand hurts. Others don't.

I had a pause for 2 weeks went back to gym and still hurts and I'm not really punching hard.

it's less pain if I don't close my hand entirely but that's not a really proper technique....

I use Twins 16oz and 120inch hand wraps....


Do you have any ideas?

paulsinghnl
11-02-2010, 05:04 PM
it might be because you don't make a tight fist when you punch, the energy doesn't distribute over ur hand well. i had that problem because of relaxed punching. If it's already injured though, it'll probably get hurt worse if u try to punch with a tight fist.

u can also consider a new wrapping technique maybe.

oaklandstephen
11-02-2010, 05:27 PM
Hi guys,

I will see a specialist and I also want to hear your opinion on the issue...my middle knuckle on my right hand hurts. Others don't.

I had a pause for 2 weeks went back to gym and still hurts and I'm not really punching hard.

it's less pain if I don't close my hand entirely but that's not a really proper technique....

I use Twins 16oz and 120inch hand wraps....


Do you have any ideas?

same thing was happening to me. it turned out that i was wrapping my hands wrong. after i fixed that i didnt have any problems.

Vitez
11-02-2010, 06:42 PM
hm I'm simply using this technique:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAn22E5wENM&feature=related

boxingsmash69
11-02-2010, 07:02 PM
hm I'm simply using this technique:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAn22E5wENM&feature=related

That's a good method.

However, you should be using 180" mexican style handwraps.


I also use these, Winning NG-2 Gel Knuckle guards. The Marquez brothers use them in training:

http://winning-usa.com/extraitems.html

Vitez
11-03-2010, 07:43 AM
"However, you should be using 180" mexican style handwraps."

I actually have these I was wrong when I said 120". They are everlast 180" mexican style.

I'll try new wrapping technique and I also have these which I'll use next time instead:


http://www.everlast.com/EverGel-Leather-Handwraps/productinfo/EVGELHW+2/

Vitez
11-06-2010, 10:25 AM
I found a new much better technique

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ud54cZly8o

However it still hurts. But if I use evergel handwraps it does not hurt even with 12oz gloves!

So obviously I need those knuckle guards and I've just order them.

Thanks!

Bullrush
11-06-2010, 11:35 AM
you dont need knuckle guards. just stop wrapping between your fingers. ive had the same issues and my knuckle would get very sore to a point where i wasnt able to punch anymore it only got worse after every punch. ive stopped doing that now and i dont have any problems with my knuckles anymore

Vitez
11-06-2010, 02:27 PM
It's not it for me though....if you check the first technique I was using till now it ain't between fingers...

Vitez
11-10-2010, 05:59 PM
With "between finger technique' it indeed hurts even with these knuckles but with the other technique they are great!
My hand even fits better in gloves. Made a few hits in my closet and tomorrow I'll try them on bag, can't wait!

So I'm using this one again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAn22E5wENM&feature=related

Bullrush
11-11-2010, 09:26 AM
told you so :dance:

mrboxer
11-11-2010, 09:29 AM
you have to wrap your hands properly,are you the same member who posted the hitting the bag video were the person was swinging wild haymakers at the bag that will cause knuckle discomfort and wrist pain:boxing:

rochemback
11-11-2010, 09:59 AM
I also used to bruise my knuckles easily on the heavy bag even with bigger gloves.

First of all, you should let your knuckle heal properly, if you go back to the heavy bag instantly, no matter if new wrap technique or guards, it will take a long time...

But if it is a wrapping issue... with wrapping its just like with a lot of other stuff, there is no general right or wrong, the important thing is what works for you. The way I've been wrapping my hands for almost two years now is that I actually start with 4 or 5 layers of handwrap, place them on the knuckles and go from there. This way I have enough protection on the knuckles, but the wraps don't get too thick on the palm, which used to bother me. Works like a charm for me.

Edit: This is pretty much how I wrap my hands:
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I know it say Muay Thai and the guy I saw it from is an MMA fighter, but it works great for me.
I use more layer for the knuckles on one hand, and more wrap for the wrist on the other, where Ihad a light injury a few years ago, so like I said, it's all about personalizing and making it perfect for you. And yes, I leave out the thumb as well, I know a lot of people will disagree, but I never had the slightest problem with my thumb through boxing gloves.

Vitez
11-11-2010, 02:26 PM
bullrush =)

mrboxer no I'm not that guy I use 16oz gloves for bag

rochemback great idea that knuckle padding with wrap however the "in between fingers" method hurts me....it's very solid method and I'd really like to use it I just can't...

One more round
11-11-2010, 04:55 PM
I always have problems wit pain in my knuckles, finger, wrist joint etc

Use longer handwraps, wrap well over the sore area, and use 16 oz for everything.

Always use 16 for everything, unless you are a little kid that fights at like 90 or 100 lbs, then maybe use 12 for bag and 16 for sparring.

You need to protect those hands.

Neutral Corner
11-11-2010, 08:08 PM
I had the same issue - I was using the twins gloves 12 oz, and found them to be stiff and hard to make a fist in them.

Might need to break in the gloves if they're new.. I ended up buying new gloves and no more pain.

One more round
11-11-2010, 09:38 PM
Twins gloves are all very stiff and hard to wear in, don't use them.

boxingsmash69
11-12-2010, 12:16 AM
This is how I do my wrapping, using 180inch ringside mexican style wraps, Winning NG-2 gel knuckle guards, and 2 inch athletic tape to hold it in place (without going in between fingers):


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Also, using this method, I can bang on opponents' elbows all day long with full power shots, and not feel a THING. However, ever since I started using the Winning NG-2 guards, people say that my punches feel a little softer now, lol. The gloves I always use are Ringside IMF tech training gloves, 16oz

Vitez
11-12-2010, 08:39 AM
smash69 thanks! I did it wrong. I put the guards on my bare hand and than wraps over it....

I'm 176lbs 25yrs 10% body fat looking to get in my first amateur fight by the time I'm 30 but that's another topic..

Yes it's hard to make a fist in Twins but I thought it's because they are 16oz. Probably not yet burned in I have them for a few months now.

I have only tried King and Twins and Twins felt nice because you can feel it...yes it's hard to make a fist but you also feel the grab much better than on King.

For higher priced gloves I'd have to order online meaning I can't try it first...I also love my hands so much that I'll probably get a better gloves than Twins.

Vitez
11-12-2010, 03:06 PM
The Ringside IMF tech training gloves are very popular across this forum I know....however the shipping would cost me $100....too much!

Neutral Corner
11-15-2010, 09:22 PM
smash69 thanks! I did it wrong. I put the guards on my bare hand and than wraps over it....

I'm 176lbs 25yrs 10% body fat looking to get in my first amateur fight by the time I'm 30 but that's another topic..

Yes it's hard to make a fist in Twins but I thought it's because they are 16oz. Probably not yet burned in I have them for a few months now.

I have only tried King and Twins and Twins felt nice because you can feel it...yes it's hard to make a fist but you also feel the grab much better than on King.

For higher priced gloves I'd have to order online meaning I can't try it first...I also love my hands so much that I'll probably get a better gloves than Twins.

The pain I felt was from the Twins being hard to make a fist.. My hand would get tired just trying to clench. That + punching a heavy bag definately hurt my middle knuckle.

Vitez
11-16-2010, 07:39 AM
I had enough of this and ordered Winning MS600B Velcro gloves.

I'll use them with knuckle guards very similar as smash69 and than I'll report back...

btw which gloves did you buy after Twins?

boxingsmash69
11-16-2010, 02:27 PM
I had enough of this and ordered Winning MS600B Velcro gloves.

I'll use them with knuckle guards very similar as smash69 and than I'll report back...

btw which gloves did you buy after Twins?

Wow, that is guaranteed hand protection right there. A deadly combo, lol.

Let us know how it goes!

By the way, I heard that Winning's velcro version gloves don't really have good wrist support. So if I were you, I would wrap extra around the wrists and even add athletic tape around the wrists.

Vitez
11-16-2010, 04:47 PM
Hei smash 69,

I tried your technique today and when I put my gloves off I saw that the NG-2 still moved back....like the tape didn't hold...I'll put more next time.

How about using NG2 below the wraps?

I was thinking about lace up gloves but I need a partner to fix them on my hands and I don't like that..

Neutral Corner
11-16-2010, 09:56 PM
I had enough of this and ordered Winning MS600B Velcro gloves.

I'll use them with knuckle guards very similar as smash69 and than I'll report back...

btw which gloves did you buy after Twins?

I bought 10oz Velcro Winnings - it was well worth the money.

Very comfortable and the quality is excellent.

I've been using them since last December and they still feel like new.

Hopefully the pain goes away when you get your new gloves!

Vitez
11-20-2010, 12:47 PM
How come you hit the heavy bag with 10oz and not feel any pain?

How long did it take for your middle knuckle to heal?

boxingsmash69
11-20-2010, 02:49 PM
Hei smash 69,

I tried your technique today and when I put my gloves off I saw that the NG-2 still moved back....like the tape didn't hold...I'll put more next time.

How about using NG2 below the wraps?

I was thinking about lace up gloves but I need a partner to fix them on my hands and I don't like that..

You can try putting more tape. However, for me, I don't use tape over the knuckles anymore because the tape keeps coming off when I remove the gloves (I like to re-use the tape). I just use the handwraps to wrap over the knuckle guards, two or three times, and it still holds fine. Just try different methods, with or without tape to find what works best.

boxingsmash69
11-20-2010, 02:50 PM
How come you hit the heavy bag with 10oz and not feel any pain?

How long did it take for your middle knuckle to heal?

That's just how good the protection of Winning gloves offer.

I've heard that the 10oz Winning offers more protection than other standard 14-16oz gloves.

Vitez
11-20-2010, 03:40 PM
"I just use the handwraps to wrap over the knuckle guards, two or three times, and it still holds fine."

Same here....it holds!
I just use the tape on my bear wrist and it feels great.

Can't wait to get those winnigs!

Neutral Corner
11-21-2010, 02:55 AM
How come you hit the heavy bag with 10oz and not feel any pain?

How long did it take for your middle knuckle to heal?

There shouldn't be any pain, even with the 10oz gloves if you're wrapping your hands properly and punching with correct technique.

The knuckle thing healed pretty quickly, it was more the Twin glove aggravating my knuckle than it being injured per say.

Bullrush
11-21-2010, 03:24 AM
the problem he has is that he wont let his knuckle heal. he tries so many different things and then he asks himself why none of it works. it CANT work if you dont let your knuckle heal first. no money/equipment in the world is gonna help you with that, you need to rest your knuckle. once thats done wrap your hands properly. if you dont have any of those cheap 10 dolllar gloves you shouldnt notice any pain anymore. but let it heal already. theres no point in buying winning gloves, winning knuckle guards, winning hand wraps etc. without letting your knuckle heal. its not gonna matter, your knuckle will always hurt until you let it heal.

as for "how long" nobody can give you a date. 1-2 weeks maybe. see for yourself, put a little pressure on the knuckle with your other thumb and if it still hurts you need to give it more time. if you continue to hit the bag like that it will not go away

Vitez
11-22-2010, 02:28 PM
I decided no punching for 2 weeks with right hand except in shadow....

Got the winning however and compared to Twins 16oz it's totally different glove. I though Twins are stiff cause they are 16 oz (I was used to my Adidas 12oz) but it ain't it.

Winning are great for making a fist also because you have that thumb over fist....hard to describe.

Not much to tell since I haven't yet used them but they sure are LIGHT for a 16 oz....happy that I bought them.

rochemback
11-22-2010, 05:24 PM
the problem he has is that he wont let his knuckle heal. he tries so many different things and then he asks himself why none of it works. it CANT work if you dont let your knuckle heal first. no money/equipment in the world is gonna help you with that, you need to rest your knuckle. once thats done wrap your hands properly. if you dont have any of those cheap 10 dolllar gloves you shouldnt notice any pain anymore. but let it heal already. theres no point in buying winning gloves, winning knuckle guards, winning hand wraps etc. without letting your knuckle heal. its not gonna matter, your knuckle will always hurt until you let it heal.

as for "how long" nobody can give you a date. 1-2 weeks maybe. see for yourself, put a little pressure on the knuckle with your other thumb and if it still hurts you need to give it more time. if you continue to hit the bag like that it will not go away

I totally agree.
I know it's very frustrating to skip heavy bag and mitts work because of a seemingly "minor" injury, but letting the knuckle heal really should be first priority, otherwise this will go on and on and linger even more. Focus on other things in the meanwhile, shadow boxing is a good idea in order to not get out of rhythm too much in the meantime.

Vitez
11-23-2010, 04:27 PM
I do that exactly. And I did try to hit the bag with my left and it felt nice with the new gloves.

Update:
I can't really use knuckle guards as they make even winning glove stiff. Like there is not really a room meant for knuckle guards....Also that winning bandage is not as comfy as everlast.

I keep trying new things with my left hand only of course....

and btw I never did wrap hands incorrectly..

boxingsmash69
11-23-2010, 10:59 PM
I do that exactly. And I did try to hit the bag with my left and it felt nice with the new gloves.

Update:
I can't really use knuckle guards as they make even winning glove stiff. Like there is not really a room meant for knuckle guards....Also that winning bandage is not as comfy as everlast.

I keep trying new things with my left hand only of course....

and btw I never did wrap hands incorrectly..

Maybe you should break in the gloves first for a few sessions, then try the knuckle guards. However, since you're using Winning gloves already, that should be more than enough hand protection when just using wraps only.

Vitez
11-24-2010, 04:49 AM
I'll sure find a way to use those...

boxingsmash69
11-24-2010, 06:19 AM
I'll sure find a way to use those...

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check out 1:43 of the video, it shows Marquez putting on the guards. It looks like he is using 2 guards on one hand, because that grey/white pad that he is putting on top of the winning knuckle guard (blue), is what's actually inside the blue cover of the guards.

Vitez
11-24-2010, 07:50 AM
I mean they sure are great.If you put them on bare hand and hit the bag lightly feels great.

I see hes putting them on top of wraps and than the tape over (X knot)

What happens for me is when I put mz hand in a glove and than make a fist theres too much pressure on my knuckles because of too small space. Probably with burning them in it'll change.

Also I switched to a club where they have softer bags....like heavy but soft.:boxing:

Vitez
04-06-2011, 12:37 PM
I did a ultrasound scanning and it show that I've broken that middle knuckle bone.....it happened because:

-I used tight gloves like Twins
-punched hard heavy bags that were also deformed (lost the proper shape)
-shot some vicious right crosses ^^

It's getting better now all I do is light sparing and those Winning 16oz really help so there's no pain.

Crushedknee
04-06-2011, 02:54 PM
My hands have been really happy since I started using "everlast gel wrap gloves"..Bone brusies just take a long time to heal.Get It xrayed if you can..I like Epsom salt soaks and massage my hands alot to increase circulation that and Advil/aspirin.

Vitez
04-06-2011, 03:09 PM
Do You mean hand wraps or gloves?

Crushedknee
04-06-2011, 06:07 PM
Do You mean hand wraps or gloves?

There light gloves with a wrist strap and gel padding over your knuckles they replace wraps..You ware them under your mitts..I was skeptical at first but they work great for absorbing punch shock..Hand is not at tightly bound as with wraps but wrist is secure..