View Full Version : Cotto and Hatton


DLT
12-12-2004, 09:26 AM
I like both of these guys but alot of people are just too stuck on them. Cotto beat a washed up Bailey and Hatton beat a washed up Olivera and you guys act like they beat Pryor and Chaves. This better be there last fight against these old ass average fighters or I will lose alot of respect for them. One of them better fight Harris

tri4ben2
12-12-2004, 10:03 AM
I like both of these guys but alot of people are just too stuck on them. Cotto beat a washed up Bailey and Hatton beat a washed up Olivera and you guys act like they beat Pryor and Chaves. This better be there last fight against these old ass average fighters or I will lose alot of respect for them. One of them better fight Harris

Harris is definately a better test than the guys they faced last night.

It is amazing how bad someone could look two years after they dominated.

I guess it sometimes only takes one fight to make a fighter washed up, but some sort of fight to see who is more washed up, Olvera or Bailey would be interesting.

But not as interesting as Hatton, Cotto.

RobbieD
12-12-2004, 10:17 AM
Harris had his chance to fight Hatton and blew it. $750,000 for one fight when you aren't a draw? That's carny talk for "I'm not fighting you".

Cotto and Hatton would smash up Harris.

tri4ben2
12-12-2004, 10:24 AM
While I do agree with you that Harris is not as good, I was just saying he would be more competive than Bailey / Olvera.

RobbieD
12-12-2004, 10:30 AM
I dunno. Haven't seen the Cotto fight yet but Hatton would have blown away most with that performance last night.

PRboxingfan
12-12-2004, 11:15 AM
Bailey was not washed up before the fight. Actually, did anyone see round 1? Bailey won that round by being elusive, using his jab, and connecting the right (which Cotto admited hurt him after the fight). What hurt Bailey were the body punches that Cotto put on him starting in round 2.

willnav
12-12-2004, 12:18 PM
I disagree. IMHO Cotto won every round and was never hurted. On the interview, he said that he felt his rights (not that he was hurt by them).

From what I have heard & readed, Corley will be his next opponent.

elveiel
12-12-2004, 12:34 PM
I dunno. Haven't seen the Cotto fight yet but Hatton would have blown away most with that performance last night.

You should watch cotto, he's a class act!!

Here's a link where you can DL his fight against Pinto
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4327

Hatton vs Cotto would be a great fight, its hard to judge who would win because of the styles match.

IMO Hatton wins the fight if Cotto backs up like he did last night, but i think Cotto's to good and clever to play to Hattons strengths, Cotto was just taking it easy and can step up the the tempo very easily.

DLT
12-12-2004, 04:30 PM
I dunno. Haven't seen the Cotto fight yet but Hatton would have blown away most with that performance last night.
Stop talking like a idiot. How can you say what Hatton would do against the elite because he beat a old washed up bum. It's just like people saying that Witter would beat Mayweather because he KO 14 bums that no one ever heard of. If you think Hatton will do that to Floyd, Zoo, Harris, Gatti, or Cotto then your crazy

Cletus Funk
12-12-2004, 04:33 PM
Stop talking like a idiot. How can you say what Hatton would do against the elite because he beat a old washed up bum. It's just like people saying that Witter would beat Mayweather because he KO 14 bums that no one ever heard of. If you think Hatton will do that to Floyd, Zoo, Harris, Gatti, or Cotto then your crazy

You've got a fair point but do you jump on the people saying that Cotto would beat Tszyu too?

Hudson_Hawk
12-12-2004, 04:34 PM
Cotto and Hatton fought washed out fighters? That's just your opinion Bro . . . . . I can assure you that these two won't be branded fighting washed out fighters if they'll bashed each other on top of that ring. Yeah! Hatton vs. Cotto.

QueenCity
12-12-2004, 04:40 PM
I would love to see this fight, talk about a body punching festival. I like Hatton as a fighter, but in the end Cotto would prove to be too much for him (or just about anyone in nthe division.)

K-Yo
12-12-2004, 05:04 PM
both good fighters, tough to call.

sssse
12-12-2004, 07:05 PM
Cotto by KO 7-9.

PRboxingfan
12-12-2004, 07:06 PM
I disagree. IMHO Cotto won every round and was never hurted. On the interview, he said that he felt his rights (not that he was hurt by them).

From what I have heard & readed, Corley will be his next opponent.
Do you speak Spanish? I do. I heard what Cotto said and not what that dumb-ass Ray Torres misinterpreted. Cotto said that Bailey's right HURT him on several occasions.

Cletus Funk
12-12-2004, 07:19 PM
Hatton v Cotto would be great. I've only seen Cotto's fight against Pinto and there were a few flaws there, as there are in Hatton's game. He did look very powerful though. Too close to call.

comepana
12-12-2004, 07:32 PM
Man! Cotto's defence last night was tight.He did took a big right hand in the chin and wasn't hurt at all so the guy have a good chin IMO.As far of hatton,if i recall correctly the guy how knock him down for the first time was a nowbody but in the first round his counter punching was great and he hurt hatton a couple of times.imagine how a guy with a sharpe speed,power,defense and great couterpunching would do to him.This fight would not go to the distance.Cotto will TKO him within 6 rounds.

comepana
12-12-2004, 07:38 PM
Do you speak Spanish? I do. I heard what Cotto said and not what that dumb-ass Ray Torres misinterpreted. Cotto said that Bailey's right HURT him on several occasions.

Totally true that bastard named Ray Torres suck as an interpreter.Most times he changes and misinterpretes the boxers or corner when he translates from English to Spanish and viseversa.People who speak both idioms know it.

Cletus Funk
12-12-2004, 07:41 PM
Man! Cotto's defence last night was tight.He did took a big right hand in the chin and wasn't hurt at all so the guy have a good chin IMO.As far of hatton,if i recall correctly the guy how knock him down for the first time was a nowbody but in the first round his counter punching was great and he hurt hatton a couple of times.imagine how a guy with a sharpe speed,power,defense and great couterpunching would do to him.This fight would not go to the distance.Cotto will TKO him within 6 rounds.

We've been through this on another thread. Because you don't who Magee is you think he's a nobody? Ask people in the know about him and you'll get the true picture. The guy is a sharp counter puncher with real power and a good defence, and hard as nails.
It was a flash kd and Hatton dominated the fight after that.

cms
12-12-2004, 07:42 PM
Last night was my first time seeing cotto fight and hes amazing i meen i heard stuff bout his other fights from ppl but he was good

elveiel
12-12-2004, 07:43 PM
Man! Cotto's defence last night was tight.He did took a big right hand in the chin and wasn't hurt at all so the guy have a good chin IMO.As far of hatton,if i recall correctly the guy how knock him down for the first time was a nowbody but in the first round his counter punching was great and he hurt hatton a couple of times.imagine how a guy with a sharpe speed,power,defense and great couterpunching would do to him.This fight would not go to the distance.Cotto will TKO him within 6 rounds.

Your seriously underating Eamon Magee if you call him a good boxer never mind a nobody!!

Magee's very good boxer who's mixed with better fighters than Cotto has. IMO Cotto would beat Magee but its would be a good test, maybe his hardest to date.

comepana
12-12-2004, 07:45 PM
We've been through this on another thread. Because you don't who Magee is you think he's a nobody? Ask people in the know about him and you'll get the true picture. The guy is a sharp counter puncher with real power and a good defence, and hard as nails.
It was a flash kd and Hatton dominated the fight after that.

Ok,but how good Magge compared to Zoo,Cotto,Maywheather and even Hatton??? not even in their league IMO.

Cletus Funk
12-12-2004, 07:50 PM
Ok,but how good Magge compared to Zoo,Cotto,Maywheather and even Hatton??? not even in their league IMO.

He's had a strange career with lots of things out of the ring interrupting it. He's currently recovering from being kidnapped and having both of his legs broken in Ireland. He was robbed in Germany in his other biggest fight against Urkhal, who took Harris to a split decision.

If you've not seen him fight how can you have an opinion on what league he's in?

elveiel
12-12-2004, 07:50 PM
Ok,but how good Magge compared to Zoo,Cotto,Maywheather and even Hatton??? not even in their league IMO.

I dont see many of them stopping him, i doubt even Tszyu could stop him!!

I think they would all beat him but not without a hard fight. IMO Magee would have beaten Mitchell before he got injured, its a shame that fight didnt happen.

cms
12-12-2004, 07:54 PM
I think Cotto needs a couple more flunkie fights before he takes on a big name at all

PRboxingfan
12-12-2004, 07:59 PM
I'd like to revise what I said about Miguel's quote after the fight. I just watched it again and he said, "He has a very strong right hand. I felt it in several occasions but, thank God, they didn't affect me." Those are the words but, if you read by his tone of voice when he says that Bailey has a strong right hand, you can tell that they hurt him.

elveiel
12-12-2004, 07:59 PM
I think Cotto needs a couple more flunkie fights before he takes on a big name at all

Yeah, Just to be safe.

I think Cotto has the skills now but it wont hurt giving him some target practice before he makes a major move in the divison.

Maybe someone like Urkal.

comepana
12-12-2004, 08:02 PM
Sorry then,if you guys have seen him fight and think he's that good my bad then.Are he a top contender right now or just an opponent? Anyway I really want the Cotto-Hatton fight.I'm a big fan of both for long time but my heart tell me Cotto would be to much for him.

tri4ben2
12-12-2004, 08:05 PM
I think Cotto needs a couple more flunkie fights before he takes on a big name at all

I think Cotto and Hatton are both done with "flunkie fights".

If Cotto starts to pull the sh1t that hatton has been pulling, he will lose his fan base too.

Early 2005, we will start to see some real fights.

BTW if one of them fight Mitchell, will you say that Mitchell is washed up and that Tszu ruined him?

elveiel
12-12-2004, 08:10 PM
I think Cotto and Hatton are both done with "flunkie fights".

If Cotto starts to pull the sh1t that hatton has been pulling, he will lose his fan base too.

Early 2005, we will start to see some real fights.

BTW if one of them fight Mitchell, will you say that Mitchell is washed up and that Tszu ruined him?

I doubt the Tszyu loss will make any difference to Mitchell, i think he'd be as tough(if not tougher) against Hatton or Cotto.

He could make a statement by beating the divisons best new talents. He's fighting to save a top flight career.

Cletus Funk
12-12-2004, 08:15 PM
Sorry then,if you guys have seen him fight and think he's that good my bad then.Are he a top contender right now or just an opponent? Anyway I really want the Cotto-Hatton fight.I'm a big fan of both for long time but my heart tell me Cotto would be to much for him.

He could easily be top 10 but he does get lazy at times which may hold him back.

willnav
12-12-2004, 10:19 PM
PRboxingfan:

I'd like to revise what I said about Miguel's quote after the fight. I just watched it again and he said, "He has a very strong right hand. I felt it in several occasions but, thank God, they didn't affect me." Those are the words but, if you read by his tone of voice when he says that Bailey has a strong right hand, you can tell that they hurt him.

No te agites pana. Yo soy boricua y fanatico de cotto tambien. No te preocupes que cualquiera se equivoca . . . no lo cojas mal. Cuidate.

PRboxingfan
12-12-2004, 10:44 PM
PRboxingfan:

I'd like to revise what I said about Miguel's quote after the fight. I just watched it again and he said, "He has a very strong right hand. I felt it in several occasions but, thank God, they didn't affect me." Those are the words but, if you read by his tone of voice when he says that Bailey has a strong right hand, you can tell that they hurt him.

No te agites pana. Yo soy boricua y fanatico de cotto tambien. No te preocupes que cualquiera se equivoca . . . no lo cojas mal. Cuidate.
No te apures, no estaba agitado.