Oscar De La Hoya never, as yet, got to avenge his loss to Tito, a Puerto Rican.

There was another Puerto Rican great named Carlos Ortiz who was Lightweight king. The Golden Boy started his pro career as lightweight. Were a prime Ortiz and a young lightweight De La Hoya were to meet, whom do you think will come out on top? How will the fight end? :rolleyes: ;)

De La Hoya by UD

De La Hoya by UD

Nope, that's not happening. DLH did nothing during his time at lightweight to indicate he could defeat one of the greatest lightweights in history, especially considering he arguably lost to John-John Molina at that weight (the judging in that fight makes it seem like a clear win for DLH, but it was far from being that). He beat a few decent lightweights during his brief time there, but Ortiz has more than a few wins against Hall-of-Famers at 135 (Ismael Laguna, Joe Brown, Sugar Ramos, etc.). Plus Ortiz also has some quality wins against the likes of Kenny Lane, Len Matthews and Doug Vaillant (ultra talented Cuban lightweight, who lacked the discipline needed to match that talent). All those guys are better than anyone that DLH beat at this weight.

De La Hoya is very talented, but he's not the ultra defensive type that usually gave Ortiz trouble. And Ortiz is more than a match for DLH in the boxing talent dept., as he was one of the best technicians that the lightweight division has ever seen. Great technical skills and the strength of a man much larger than himself. Ortiz also had good hand speed, good power, great balance when throwing punches to both the head and body (great left hook downstairs). Plus, he was as tough as they come and could go very hard for fifteen rounds without fading. Very, very durable!

Truthfully, DLH doesn't have one single advantage in this matchup that he'd be able to count on to win the fight. Ortiz has a few, but especially DLH's weaknesses against the technical boxers and the fact that Ortiz is going to have a huge advantage in the stamina dept.

DLH is competitive for the first half of the fight, but eventually those left hooks to the body from Ortiz, are going to exact their toll and DLH is going to fade in the later rounds. DLH's tough though, so he might...might see the final bell in this one. But he ain't going to win it. No way, Jose'.

Ortiz would win this matchup by either a late round stoppage, or by a very clear unanimous decision. As a lightweight, he's simply too much for DLH to handle.

I agree with Yogi, Oscar at lightweight can't handle Ortiz. Oscar as a fighter was too young at lightweight.

Nope, that's not happening. DLH did nothing during his time at lightweight to indicate he could defeat one of the greatest lightweights in history, especially considering he arguably lost to John-John Molina at that weight (the judging in that fight makes it seem like a clear win for DLH, but it was far from being that). He beat a few decent lightweights during his brief time there, but Ortiz has more than a few wins against Hall-of-Famers at 135 (Ismael Laguna, Joe Brown, Sugar Ramos, etc.). Plus Ortiz also has some quality wins against the likes of Kenny Lane, Len Matthews and Doug Vaillant (ultra talented Cuban lightweight, who lacked the discipline needed to match that talent). All those guys are better than anyone that DLH beat at this weight.

De La Hoya is very talented, but he's not the ultra defensive type that usually gave Ortiz trouble. And Ortiz is more than a match for DLH in the boxing talent dept., as he was one of the best technicians that the lightweight division has ever seen. Great technical skills and the strength of a man much larger than himself. Ortiz also had good hand speed, good power, great balance when throwing punches to both the head and body (great left hook downstairs). Plus, he was as tough as they come and could go very hard for fifteen rounds without fading. Very, very durable!

Truthfully, DLH doesn't have one single advantage in this matchup that he'd be able to count on to win the fight. Ortiz has a few, but especially DLH's weaknesses against the technical boxers and the fact that Ortiz is going to have a huge advantage in the stamina dept.

DLH is competitive for the first half of the fight, but eventually those left hooks to the body from Ortiz, are going to exact their toll and DLH is going to fade in the later rounds. DLH's tough though, so he might...might see the final bell in this one. But he ain't going to win it. No way, Jose'.

Ortiz would win this matchup by either a late round stoppage, or by a very clear unanimous decision. As a lightweight, he's simply too much for DLH to handle.

this ... this was fucking beautiful! who are you, yogi?