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Richie-G
10-14-2010, 11:57 AM
i feel like im not seeing an improvement. i've been boxing for about 4 years and had 9 fights. i just feel like i give so much of my life up to this sport, training everyday, but im going nowhere. i get beat up in sparring, drop close decisions, and can't seem to perform. a lot of kids in my gym are better than me even though i train harder and have been boxing longer... its like they've got something i haven't.... im not about to give up, but im growing tired of going nowhere.. do you think that genetics, or natural talent comes into it? im not exactly a naturally gifted athlete, but i make up for it with hard work... just dont know what im doing wrong?

Joachim
10-14-2010, 03:30 PM
Stop doing, start thinking. Don't go with the motions, have an open mind.

Sugarj
10-14-2010, 03:46 PM
i feel like im not seeing an improvement. i've been boxing for about 4 years and had 9 fights. i just feel like i give so much of my life up to this sport, training everyday, but im going nowhere. i get beat up in sparring, drop close decisions, and can't seem to perform. a lot of kids in my gym are better than me even though i train harder and have been boxing longer... its like they've got something i haven't.... im not about to give up, but im growing tired of going nowhere.. do you think that genetics, or natural talent comes into it? im not exactly a naturally gifted athlete, but i make up for it with hard work... just dont know what im doing wrong?


At 17 your barely starting out, loads of developing to do. If you genuinely aren't naturally gifted athletically, you are in the same boat as many a professional boxer. Just watch Steve Collins!

If you aren't enjoying the sport you might as well stop for now, its not as if it is your job. You may find that returning to it in a few years revitalises you a bit.

Perhaps you could watch more boxing fights from history, study your idols' moves and try to emulate them. You could work to your own strengths.....if as you say you work hard let your stamina and workrate do the talking in sparring.

Richie-G
10-14-2010, 04:09 PM
Stop doing, start thinking. Don't go with the motions, have an open mind.

what exactly do you mean lol?

At 17 your barely starting out, loads of developing to do. If you genuinely aren't naturally gifted athletically, you are in the same boat as many a professional boxer. Just watch Steve Collins!

If you aren't enjoying the sport you might as well stop for now, its not as if it is your job. You may find that returning to it in a few years revitalises you a bit.

Perhaps you could watch more boxing fights from history, study your idols' moves and try to emulate them. You could work to your own strengths.....if as you say you work hard let your stamina and workrate do the talking in sparring.

ive got 3 fights lined up within the next month, so i need to get these out of the way first. its not that im not enjoying it, i just find it frustrating to work hard and see people who dont take it as seriously as me do better than me.

piojo del norte
10-14-2010, 04:55 PM
take some time off maybe a month or so let your body recuperate from all the hard training and here is a tip dont worry about what others are doing just worry about what your doing and what you can do and what you want to accomplish.

One more round
10-14-2010, 05:17 PM
Natural talent does play a role, but if you work hard you can overcome some talent deficits. And talent is varied, you can be fast, strong, have a good chin, pick up technique well, be a good thinker in the ring etc

Not all the good fighters come good right away, a guy I know lost the majority of his first 15-20 fights, and ended up going to 2 olympics. The further he went, the harder he worked, he found out his strengths, worked on them, and ended up being probably the best fighter in my country for a good time.

Just because you aren't some freak who's talent is apparent right away and blows out his first 10 opponents (which some kids do) doesn't mean you won't end up being a good fighter, or that you aren't already a good fighter.

How is it that you get "beat up" in sparring, and by who?

I wouldn't worry so much about close decisions....in the amateurs and boxing in general, the close fights can go either way, or sometimes the wrong way...It's a pretty fickle system.

ScottDBA
10-14-2010, 11:01 PM
Change something up. Do you go through the exact same routine/drills at the gym each day? It's important to practice techniques over and over until they become second nature, but when they do that's when you need to add more. If you're always doing the same stuff you won't add anything new to your arsenal.

So ask your coach for a new footwork drill. Get him to change up how you guys do your padwork a bit. Longer combinations, more body punches etc. Something that is different to give you a new skill to work on.

DET. IRONSIDE
10-15-2010, 12:50 AM
what exactly do you mean lol?



ive got 3 fights lined up within the next month, so i need to get these out of the way first. its not that im not enjoying it, i just find it frustrating to work hard and see people who dont take it as seriously as me do better than me.

Its all about the next fight brother.

Its got to be better than your last one and every fight from now HAS to be better than your worst one. Thats the pressure and fear all fighters face but you've got to use that fear. Its a tiny thing but its your fight. The more you can relax with that fear and use it the better fighter you'll be and the more you'll freak your opponent. Mike says it best when he says fear is your friend.

You gotta go there and grab it by the balls. Some people are suggesting you take a break or drop the sport.

Jobs, family, college all that **** is getting to you now. I'm sure

Take a break for a weekend. A real nice relaxing weekend. Don't party too much. Go out by the beach or into the mountains somewhere and just take it easy.

Tried fishing? What am I saying you're in Bournemouth. Maybe head to Portland. Its nice and quiet there, check out the rocks.

Then be ready to get back on the bike for those fights coming. Give them everything you got in your mind and body. Take them one at a tim and break them down. Learn from them.

After those fights have a think about what you want to do.

Bump this thread with your results be nice to hear back.

oaklandstephen
10-15-2010, 03:10 AM
maybe u need a better trainer

shelly12345
10-15-2010, 06:09 AM
No, you didn't do anything wrong.

#1Assassin
10-15-2010, 06:23 AM
i felt/feel the same way. in my case i think it was mental roadblocks that held/is holding me back. no matter what the problem si in your case u just gotta keep working.

Richie-G
10-15-2010, 10:50 AM
thanks for the advice guys. im fighting tomorrow night against a kid with 4 fights, 2-2. hes meant to be a puncher, although that shouldnt be a problem, ive been sparring heavyweights recently and know i can take a good shot. on paper it shouldnt be too hard, but i know this doesnt mean anything. i will let you know how i get on. maybe what i need is more activity, i havent been fighting regularly. thanks guys!!

Juof
10-15-2010, 11:50 AM
baldomir vs judah

HyperUppercut
10-15-2010, 12:01 PM
i feel like im not seeing an improvement. i've been boxing for about 4 years and had 9 fights. i just feel like i give so much of my life up to this sport, training everyday, but im going nowhere. i get beat up in sparring, drop close decisions, and can't seem to perform. a lot of kids in my gym are better than me even though i train harder and have been boxing longer... its like they've got something i haven't.... im not about to give up, but im growing tired of going nowhere.. do you think that genetics, or natural talent comes into it? im not exactly a naturally gifted athlete, but i make up for it with hard work... just dont know what im doing wrong?

do what pacquiao did and get on steroids. But make sure you don't take those blood tests. Then you should be fine.

dangerousity
10-15-2010, 06:24 PM
Which club in bournemouth do you box at?

Richie-G
10-16-2010, 07:30 PM
i box at oakmead.

just got back from my fight, i won on points. he was the strongest person ive boxed so far, but i boxed well. he was older aswell (he was 20 i was 17), and i should be fighting next weekend aswell!

Freelancer
10-17-2010, 07:06 AM
That's good to hear!

Related to the topic, my 2 cents would be to look back, see what is wrong and improve on that and I'm not only reffering to training methods and technique. It's not easy to see yourself objectively but it's the best way to go. Whatever people advise you in the end you have to figure out mistakes by your own to improve them if the mistakes are related to how you view boxing.

You can look at this moment as an obstacle and work on getting over it. It's normal to have doubts but it's great if you can overcome them and don't regret the time you invested in it.

And no time is really wasted, you can learn from everything.

I know it sounds a bit cheesy but meh, it's my opinion on it.

josh-hill
10-17-2010, 12:02 PM
I know exactly what you meen. I have been weightlifting for about a year now and still look worse and am weaker than most people. I watch my diet , spend hours at the gym and still I'm weaker and fatter and less muscular than people that spend all day eating junk food and all night drinking at parties. I know the feeling and demoralising dosnt quite reach. You just reach a point where it dosnt make you angry anymore, you just wonder why all I can say is stick at it

Richie-G
10-17-2010, 04:00 PM
thats good advice man, i appreciate everyones help on this thread.

theres no way im giving up, not in a million years. my record stands at 4-6 now, and i have two fights lined up this month. that means i can get my record even, 6-6, and start from scratch. ive gained a lot of confidence from my last fight, i took some big shots from a banger and didnt flinch. i'll bump the thread to let you know what happens...

DET. IRONSIDE
10-17-2010, 04:33 PM
thats good advice man, i appreciate everyones help on this thread.

theres no way im giving up, not in a million years. my record stands at 4-6 now, and i have two fights lined up this month. that means i can get my record even, 6-6, and start from scratch. ive gained a lot of confidence from my last fight, i took some big shots from a banger and didnt flinch. i'll bump the thread to let you know what happens...

Good job lad, you keep that chin up..well tucked in but you know what i mean.

Just remember its ALL about the next fight. Its gotta be better than your last one.

One Step Beyond!

Richie-G
10-23-2010, 07:16 PM
whats up guys, just got back from my 11th bout. i lost on a majority decision, but i was lucky to even get that. i boxed like a twat and barely threw anything. got caught with stupid right hooks and left hands and just boxed terribly. he only had 4 bouts aswell.... after the bout i just sat by myself and cried for a good half hour. im sick of losing. im sick of giving up my social life, giving up my free time, giving up everything when im just losing all the time. all i do is train, its all i think about. im sick of seeing kids who barely train and do this as a hobby be better than me, im ****ing sick of it. i must sound like a moaning prick, but right now i just feel like ****.

pacquiao-king
10-24-2010, 06:51 AM
What's your nutrition and training? Is your gym good, are the trainers good?
You should start being more positive. Use losing as an incentive. Study boxing more and general health.

Coeco
10-24-2010, 08:38 AM
Don't know much advice to give but "You're F*ucked". I have asthma and it have been decided that all physical activities, hobbies and jobs are 99.5% impossible for me to perform.

You could always try becoming a "thinking" boxer instead of relying on brute force and rigorous training-patterns.

DET. IRONSIDE
10-24-2010, 01:31 PM
whats up guys, just got back from my 11th bout. i lost on a majority decision, but i was lucky to even get that. i boxed like a twat and barely threw anything. got caught with stupid right hooks and left hands and just boxed terribly. he only had 4 bouts aswell.... after the bout i just sat by myself and cried for a good half hour. im sick of losing. im sick of giving up my social life, giving up my free time, giving up everything when im just losing all the time. all i do is train, its all i think about. im sick of seeing kids who barely train and do this as a hobby be better than me, im ****ing sick of it. i must sound like a moaning prick, but right now i just feel like ****.

You got another fight still to go yeah?

Stop beating up on yourself so much and do the job in hand. You've got a bout coming up concentrate on that.

So you didn't know this guy and you lost big deal. Whats important is always the next one and for it to be better than your last. Sounds to me like you're getting over-confident and then beating up on youself when it doesn't all slide into place.

Concentrate on the next fight, after thats over then consider your options. in the meantime do NOT let the results define your character or your temperament these results are simply points on a card on your boxing record. Even having a boxing record puts you in an excellent position.

You're a fighter. Guys like De La Hoya, Khan and Hamed all started boxing before their teens (and they all got ripped on). You won't have that level of intuition but you can still put your mind on the next fight and focus on that. Be a warrior. Be a fighter and look at your next fight as a show of strength.

Once thats over you can seriously consider your options. Theres a lot of things you can do but the best thing right now is to keep a clear head and focus on the game in hand.

Its a competitive sport and you're competing and hey, it was a split decision. Look on the bright side.

VIPrice
10-27-2010, 06:01 AM
whats up guys, just got back from my 11th bout. i lost on a majority decision, but i was lucky to even get that. i boxed like a twat and barely threw anything. got caught with stupid right hooks and left hands and just boxed terribly. he only had 4 bouts aswell.... after the bout i just sat by myself and cried for a good half hour. im sick of losing. im sick of giving up my social life, giving up my free time, giving up everything when im just losing all the time. all i do is train, its all i think about. im sick of seeing kids who barely train and do this as a hobby be better than me, im ****ing sick of it. i must sound like a moaning prick, but right now i just feel like ****.

after reading that id say the best thing would be to take a break. you sound absolutely consumed by boxing and your perceived failures/inadequeacies in the sport. take time off boxing to get a level head. you say you think about it all the time - obviously far too much, especially when youll be thinking "im sick of losing. im sick of giving up my social life, giving up my free time, giving up everything when im just losing all the time. all i do is train, its all i think about. im sick of seeing kids who barely train and do this as a hobby be better than me, im ****ing sick of it."
when you think all that kind of **** and force yourself into the gym its just going to become a self-fulfilling prophecy. when you force yourself into the gym youre already in a bad mood to box since you dont want to be there, the whole time youre boxing all of those negative thoughts will be going through your head so your performance wont be the greatest, and every time you force yourself to the gym this process will repeat and reinforce those beliefs you currently have about yourself.


Take a break. Chill out, enjoy life a bit. boxing doesnt have to be the be-all end-all. do all those things you think boxing is stopping you from doing. see if they really change your life or make it so much greater. then youll be able to look back at yourself and your performances more objectively.
also, enjoy your time when you box. dont always be thinking "this guy better" or "this new kid who just started to box is better than me." just focus on yourself and learning and improving and probably most importantly having a good time.

#1Assassin
10-27-2010, 02:46 PM
this might help.

http://www.expertboxing.com/boxing-training/reflex-training/135-automatic-boxing-skills-take-your-game-to-the-next-level

also keep in mind some are just late bloomers, so many guys get beat up day in and day out trhen one day something just clicks and they are able to put everything togheter.

One more round
10-29-2010, 08:04 PM
You remind me of my mate at my gym. He's like 1-6 now.