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dodge
12-11-2004, 08:09 PM
On November 16, Utah Judge Paul G. Cassell gave a 22-year sentence to a murderer who beat an elderly woman to death with a log.

Two hours later, he sentenced nonviolent, first-time-offender Weldon Angelos, age 24, to 55 years and a day in essence, a life sentence.

Weldon’s crime? Selling a small amount of marijuana to a Utah undercover policeman.

How was this possible? It was yet another horror story created by America’s savage mandatory minimum sentencing laws, imposed by Congress during the “get tough on drugs” mania that seized Congress in the 1980s.

Angelos wore a small pistol in an ankle holster when he sold the marijuana. Although he didn’t use, threaten to use, or brandish the weapon, that triggered the federal mandatory minimum laws, and sent his sentence skyrocketing.

Angelos’ mandatory 55 years is based on three firearms-related charges: for carrying a gun during two drug sales and for keeping additional firearms at his apartment. Federal law require a five-year mandatory-minimum sentence for the first charge and a 25-year term for each count thereafter.

Under federal law, Judge Cassell had no choice but to impose the 55 years.

Cassell is no softie on crime. He’s a Bush appointee, former prosecutor, and death penalty advocate.

But he was horrified by what the law forced him to do to Weldon Angelos. So horrified, in fact, that he wrote a 67-page memorandum denouncing the mandatory sentencing and asking Bush to commute the sentence to a more reasonable (in his mind) 18 years.

Under federal law, Judge Cassell noted, an airplane hijacker would get 24 years. A bomb-detonating terrorist would get a 19-year sentence. A three-time child rapist would get 15 years.

"Is there a rational basis for giving Mr. Angelos more time than the hijacker, the murderer, the rapist?" Judge Cassell wrote. “To sentence Mr. Angelos to prison for the rest of his life is unjust, cruel, and even irrational."

A respected and growing body of individuals and organizations, from across the political spectrum, oppose mandatory sentencing laws. A few:

* U.S. Supreme Court Justice William Rehnquist
* Former attorney general Edwin Meese
* Former FBI director Louis Freeh
* Former drug czar Barry McCaffrey
* The American Bar Association
* The National Association of Veteran Police Officers
* The National Council of La Raza
* The American Psychological Association
* The National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers
* The Federal Courts Study Committee
* The American Civil Liberties Union
* The U.S. Sentencing Commission
* Each of the 11 Federal Judicial Circuits

The Angelos case is bringing some well-deserved attention to the horrors and injustice of these barbaric laws.

But a libertarian analysis of the case goes much further than that. Two simple questions: Why should it be a crime to sell marijuana in the first place? And why should it be illegal to exercise your Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms while engaged in peaceful, consensual commercial activities?

(Sources: FAMM -- Families Against Mandatory Minimums:
http://www.famm.org/index2.htm )

neils7147933
12-11-2004, 08:11 PM
good to see that criminal is off the streets. now if you don't mind I'm going to watch the news and watch our heroes off a few more Iraqis on CNN...

FightFan214
12-12-2004, 03:30 AM
On November 16, Utah Judge Paul G. Cassell gave a 22-year sentence to a murderer who beat an elderly woman to death with a log.

Two hours later, he sentenced nonviolent, first-time-offender Weldon Angelos, age 24, to 55 years and a day in essence, a life sentence.

Weldon’s crime? Selling a small amount of marijuana to a Utah undercover policeman.

How was this possible? It was yet another horror story created by America’s savage mandatory minimum sentencing laws, imposed by Congress during the “get tough on drugs” mania that seized Congress in the 1980s.

Angelos wore a small pistol in an ankle holster when he sold the marijuana. Although he didn’t use, threaten to use, or brandish the weapon, that triggered the federal mandatory minimum laws, and sent his sentence skyrocketing.

Angelos’ mandatory 55 years is based on three firearms-related charges: for carrying a gun during two drug sales and for keeping additional firearms at his apartment. Federal law require a five-year mandatory-minimum sentence for the first charge and a 25-year term for each count thereafter.

Under federal law, Judge Cassell had no choice but to impose the 55 years.

Cassell is no softie on crime. He’s a Bush appointee, former prosecutor, and death penalty advocate.

But he was horrified by what the law forced him to do to Weldon Angelos. So horrified, in fact, that he wrote a 67-page memorandum denouncing the mandatory sentencing and asking Bush to commute the sentence to a more reasonable (in his mind) 18 years.

Under federal law, Judge Cassell noted, an airplane hijacker would get 24 years. A bomb-detonating terrorist would get a 19-year sentence. A three-time child rapist would get 15 years.

"Is there a rational basis for giving Mr. Angelos more time than the hijacker, the murderer, the rapist?" Judge Cassell wrote. “To sentence Mr. Angelos to prison for the rest of his life is unjust, cruel, and even irrational."

A respected and growing body of individuals and organizations, from across the political spectrum, oppose mandatory sentencing laws. A few:

* U.S. Supreme Court Justice William Rehnquist
* Former attorney general Edwin Meese
* Former FBI director Louis Freeh
* Former drug czar Barry McCaffrey
* The American Bar Association
* The National Association of Veteran Police Officers
* The National Council of La Raza
* The American Psychological Association
* The National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers
* The Federal Courts Study Committee
* The American Civil Liberties Union
* The U.S. Sentencing Commission
* Each of the 11 Federal Judicial Circuits

The Angelos case is bringing some well-deserved attention to the horrors and injustice of these barbaric laws.

But a libertarian analysis of the case goes much further than that. Two simple questions: Why should it be a crime to sell marijuana in the first place? And why should it be illegal to exercise your Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms while engaged in peaceful, consensual commercial activities?

(Sources: FAMM -- Families Against Mandatory Minimums:
http://www.famm.org/index2.htm )

Hey thats F'ed up!! I hope they change those stupid laws.

phallus
12-16-2004, 01:37 AM
On November 16, Utah Judge Paul G. Cassell gave a 22-year sentence to a murderer who beat an elderly woman to death with a log.

Two hours later, he sentenced nonviolent, first-time-offender Weldon Angelos, age 24, to 55 years and a day in essence, a life sentence.

Weldon’s crime? Selling a small amount of marijuana to a Utah undercover policeman.

How was this possible? It was yet another horror story created by America’s savage mandatory minimum sentencing laws, imposed by Congress during the “get tough on drugs” mania that seized Congress in the 1980s.

Angelos wore a small pistol in an ankle holster when he sold the marijuana. Although he didn’t use, threaten to use, or brandish the weapon, that triggered the federal mandatory minimum laws, and sent his sentence skyrocketing.

Angelos’ mandatory 55 years is based on three firearms-related charges: for carrying a gun during two drug sales and for keeping additional firearms at his apartment. Federal law require a five-year mandatory-minimum sentence for the first charge and a 25-year term for each count thereafter.

Under federal law, Judge Cassell had no choice but to impose the 55 years.

Cassell is no softie on crime. He’s a Bush appointee, former prosecutor, and death penalty advocate.

But he was horrified by what the law forced him to do to Weldon Angelos. So horrified, in fact, that he wrote a 67-page memorandum denouncing the mandatory sentencing and asking Bush to commute the sentence to a more reasonable (in his mind) 18 years.

Under federal law, Judge Cassell noted, an airplane hijacker would get 24 years. A bomb-detonating terrorist would get a 19-year sentence. A three-time child rapist would get 15 years.

"Is there a rational basis for giving Mr. Angelos more time than the hijacker, the murderer, the rapist?" Judge Cassell wrote. “To sentence Mr. Angelos to prison for the rest of his life is unjust, cruel, and even irrational."

A respected and growing body of individuals and organizations, from across the political spectrum, oppose mandatory sentencing laws. A few:

* U.S. Supreme Court Justice William Rehnquist
* Former attorney general Edwin Meese
* Former FBI director Louis Freeh
* Former drug czar Barry McCaffrey
* The American Bar Association
* The National Association of Veteran Police Officers
* The National Council of La Raza
* The American Psychological Association
* The National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers
* The Federal Courts Study Committee
* The American Civil Liberties Union
* The U.S. Sentencing Commission
* Each of the 11 Federal Judicial Circuits

The Angelos case is bringing some well-deserved attention to the horrors and injustice of these barbaric laws.

But a libertarian analysis of the case goes much further than that. Two simple questions: Why should it be a crime to sell marijuana in the first place? And why should it be illegal to exercise your Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms while engaged in peaceful, consensual commercial activities?

(Sources: FAMM -- Families Against Mandatory Minimums:
http://www.famm.org/index2.htm )




this never would have happened had he been canadian, in canada the weeed isn't even a crime anymore, it's a misdemeanor ( unless you're carrying over 15 joints ( that's 15 j's for personal use - that usually isn't even enforrced ) then it's intent to traffic ( a crime ). in canada, smokin the weeed ain't no crime. i love you mary jane!

.::|ULTIMATE|::.
12-16-2004, 03:17 AM
Thats messed up that a murderer got a smaller sentence. Switch the years around then its not bad.

joeboxer
02-05-2005, 07:14 PM
Does anyone remember the Michael Nunn he was a middle weight that got 30 yrs for buying coke a little while ago. He wasn't even dealing he totally had enough money he just used a lot so he bought a lot now he's gone forever,

Dude
02-05-2005, 07:29 PM
55 years for selling Marijuana? That's gotta be a joke right? So he is basicly 3,66 times worse than a three time child raptist? Gimme a break...

In the Netherlands selling Marijuana is totally legal. In Germany you're allowed to smoke it (if you don't posses it, it's a pretty strange rule).

But how on earth can a country claim to bring civilization to the world if its courts sentence a 24 year old to 55 for, well, nothing.

joeboxer
02-05-2005, 07:33 PM
Not here. Marjuana laws suck, thats why we have to go to Amsterdam to have fun.

tracylee
02-05-2005, 07:44 PM
thats pathetic...I bet the family of the elderly woman are pretty upset about that too! :eek:

kadyo
02-05-2005, 08:08 PM
Damn! I'm throwing all my sinsemilla away!!!...wait .... am not in utah so what the heck...*puff puff puff* :D

Tha Greatest
02-06-2005, 03:00 PM
this never would have happened had he been canadian, in canada the weeed isn't even a crime anymore, it's a misdemeanor ( unless you're carrying over 15 joints ( that's 15 j's for personal use - that usually isn't even enforrced ) then it's intent to traffic ( a crime ). in canada, smokin the weeed ain't no crime. i love you mary jane!


I used to live in Vancouver. I never seen so many damn potheads in my life, every persons house i went to they had plants