1. Joe Louis
2. Ali
3. Holmes
4. Lewis
5. Tyson
6. Burns
7. Jeffries
8. Marciano
9. Johnson
10.Dempsey
11. Charles
12. Frazier
13. Foreman
14. Holyfield
15. Tunney
16. Primo Carnera
17. Liston
18. Jersey Joe Wolcott
19. Vitali Klit.
20. McCall
21. Pinklon Thomas
22. Jess Willard
23. Bob Fitzsimmons
24. Tim Witherspoon
25. Max Baer
26. Riddick Bowe
27. Trevor Berbick
28. Frank Bruno
29. Hasim Rahman
30. Buster Douglas

Frazier, Foreman, and Holyfield don't break the top 10?

You gotta be kiddin that is a horrible list.

Frazier, Foreman, and Holyfield don't break the top 10?

All should be ranked higher that Mike Tyson. To have him at number 5 is pretty stupid. This isnt top 30 most talented Heavyweights.

Weird list you have dodger...heres mine

1. Ali
2. Louis
3. Foreman
4. Johnson
5. Jeffries
6. Holmes
7. Lewis
8. Holyfeild
9. Marciano
10. Frazier

Oliver McCall better than Riddick Bowe? Might be to minor heavyweights but thats a pretty stupid call.

I have a hard time putting them in order, but the top 10 in my eyes are:

Louis, Ali, Dempsey, Frazier, Foreman, Lewis, Langford, Johnson, Marciano, and Holmes. Or something along those lines.

Muhammad Ali
Joe Louis
Rocky Marciano
Jack Johnson
Evander Holyfield
Jack Dempsey
George Foreman
Joe Frazier
Lennox Lewis
Mike Tyson
Gene Tunney
Sonny Liston
Max Schmelling
James J. Jeffries
Jim Corbett

That's my top 15, but that's debatable.

Joe Louis fought a bunch of bums. He should be top 5, but not #1.

y do u hav marciano so low WTF ... he was the only fighter to retired undefeated, UR WAY OFF

Yes, this list contains some pretty reputable Heavyweights, but the order in which they are listed is quite questionable. The most obvious, and most debatable is Ali behind Tyson?!? O.K. Tyson was perhaps the greatest Heavyweight in his prime, but if they fought, Rope-A-Dope notwithstanding, Tyson probably wouldn't lay a hand on Ali!! I don't know what Ali this is...must be the 1982 Ali :eek:

top 5

Ali
Louis
Foreman
Holmes
Johnson

Joe Louis fought a bunch of bums. He should be top 5, but not #1.

Joe Louis defended his heavyweight title a record 25 times. He fought a string of fighters on a monthly basis and his victims became to be known as "the bum of the month club."

However, one cannot forget that Louis KO'd James J. Braddock (after getting up off the canvas) to win the title, he beat Max Baer, Max Schmelling, Jersey Joe Walcott. Joe Louis was very effective as an older champion and challenger. He did lose to Marciano, but was still competitive even in that fight at an advanced age.

Joe Louis was a credit to his race, the human race and was a credit to the sport of boxing. He is regarded by many to be the greatest heavyweight champion of all time or at the very worst a close 2nd behind Muhammad Ali.

His career ring record was 68-3 with 54 KO's. He was a true champion in and out of the ring.

Knuckles

Marciano usually fought great fighters that were old ,thats why i got em low

What's with Lennox Lewis being on everyones top 5 or 10. The guy is way overrated. A young Tyson would've knocked out Lewis within 2 rounds.

Louis
Ali

1. Joe Louis
2. Ali
3. Holmes
4. Lewis
5. Tyson
6. Burns
7. Jeffries
8. Marciano
9. Johnson
10.Dempsey
11. Charles
12. Frazier
13. Foreman
14. Holyfield
15. Tunney
16. Primo Carnera
17. Liston
18. Jersey Joe Wolcott
19. Vitali Klit.
20. McCall
21. Pinklon Thomas
22. Jess Willard
23. Bob Fitzsimmons
24. Tim Witherspoon
25. Max Baer
26. Riddick Bowe
27. Trevor Berbick
28. Frank Bruno
29. Hasim Rahman
30. Buster Douglas

Even though he beat Witherspoon, Pinklon should be ranked lower than Tim.

You can argue all you want about the top ten but I believe there is no arguing about the top 3 except for maybe the order they go in.

1)ALI
2)LOUIS
3)JOHNSON (Im amazed how so many have him down on the list)

In my mind these three are set, you can argue from here on out who should fall behind these gentleman.

I've always felt that George Foreman is really the best heavyweight ever. It would be a fallacy to put him at number one with his loss to Ali, but, in my opinion, 9 times outta 10 Foreman would beat Ali. Foreman is the reason Ali is so ****ed up now I believe, and also part of Holyfield's current problems (along with Bowe).

If Foreman had the brain in the 70's that he did in the 90's, Ali would have never been able to "KO" a gassed George.

I've always felt that George Foreman is really the best heavyweight ever. It would be a fallacy to put him at number one with his loss to Ali, but, in my opinion, 9 times outta 10 Foreman would beat Ali. Foreman is the reason Ali is so ****ed up now I believe, and also part of Holyfield's current problems (along with Bowe).

If Foreman had the brain in the 70's that he did in the 90's, Ali would have never been able to "KO" a gassed George.


Foreman is the reason Ali is ****ed up in your opinion?

HAve you ever watched Ali fight a guy name Joe Frazier? They fought three times, right? I heard the third fight was brutal was it? Could that have had anything to do with Ali's condition in your opinion?

Have you ever heard of Parkinson's? Did George Foreman beat that disease into Ali's brain?

Saying that you think George Foreman caused Ali's problems is like saying you have pinpointed the chick who gave MAgic aids, you cant do it because you have no clue.

As for George's brain your right, he could have been a lot better if he would have fought with patience and been more resourceful with those clubs of his.

1. Joe Louis
2. Ali
3. Holmes
4. Lewis
5. Tyson
6. Burns
7. Jeffries
8. Marciano
9. Johnson
10.Dempsey
11. Charles
12. Frazier
13. Foreman
14. Holyfield
15. Tunney
16. Primo Carnera
17. Liston
18. Jersey Joe Wolcott
19. Vitali Klit.
20. McCall
21. Pinklon Thomas
22. Jess Willard
23. Bob Fitzsimmons
24. Tim Witherspoon
25. Max Baer
26. Riddick Bowe
27. Trevor Berbick
28. Frank Bruno
29. Hasim Rahman
30. Buster Douglas
holmes is 3? lewis is 4? BURNS is 6? jeffries 7? mcall is higher than fitzsimmons? vitali klitschko is higher than max baer? primo carnera, oliver mccall, pinklon thomas, jess willard, tim witherspoon, trevor berbick, frank bruno, hasim rahman, buster douglas, and riddick bowe ARE ON THE LIST?!?!?!

this is one of the worst lists i have ever seen in my life!

an absurd list, having vitali at 19!!!!!!
every time he has stepped up thus far, he has lost, he hasent come close to proving himself a true champ yet, if hes 19, you need to have the man who dominated him, byrd on the list. also, berbick and rahman???? do you really think somoeone should be considered top 30 all time based on one fight?

an absurd list, having vitali at 19!!!!!!
every time he has stepped up thus far, he has lost, he hasent come close to proving himself a true champ yet, if hes 19, you need to have the man who dominated him, byrd on the list. also, berbick and rahman???? do you really think somoeone should be considered top 30 all time based on one fight?


So, I guess never really saw this fight.

I think Michael Dokes should be somewhere in the 25-30 range.

why do so many people put Rocky and lennox lewis so high its stupid

Ali
Louis
Foreman
Holmes
Johnson

are the top 5 heavyweight and should always be there period

and btw id put foreman at 2 if he didnt lose to jimmy :(

Why is Marciano on the list at all?Was he a heavyweight?No unless being 180 pounds makes you heavyweight.Did Marciano fight heavyweights?No unless fighter other 180 or so pounds makes you a heavyweight.The man isnt a top 100 heavyweight because he isnt a heavyweight.Dempsey isn't or Jack Johnson.
here is my list in no particular order.
Ali
Foreman
Frazier
Lewis
Bowe
Holmes
Norton
Lyle
Holyfield
Hmmm there are other fighters like Tua or Vitali that could be up there but please peaople learn what a heavyweight is.180=cruiserweight beating other 180 pound guys meant you beat other cruiserweights.It is like putting Roy Jonse on the list because he beat some light heavyweights and then beat Ruiz.

Why is Marciano on the list at all?Was he a heavyweight?No unless being 180 pounds makes you heavyweight.Did Marciano fight heavyweights?No unless fighter other 180 or so pounds makes you a heavyweight.The man isnt a top 100 heavyweight because he isnt a heavyweight.Dempsey isn't or Jack Johnson.
here is my list in no particular order.
Ali
Foreman
Frazier
Lewis
Bowe
Holmes
Norton
Lyle
Holyfield
Hmmm there are other fighters like Tua or Vitali that could be up there but please peaople learn what a heavyweight is.180=cruiserweight beating other 180 pound guys meant you beat other cruiserweights.It is like putting Roy Jonse on the list because he beat some light heavyweights and then beat Ruiz.


u cant say that cause the weight limits were diff back then, Rocky would lsoe to just about everyone in the top 10 all time list with ease he is an overrated joke

Of course Marciano is a joke.But the weight thing is valid.How many times has he beed a 220 pound world class fighter?How many times has he even fought a 220 pound world class fighter?0 times is how many so no sane person could go well since he never lost fighting 180 pound fighters who were mostly bums or just old or old and bums then he could beat guys like Bowe or Lewis.
Only a white guy would try argue that he could.Maricano isn't a top anything.

I think when people rate the all time heavyweights they need to rate them in terms of p4p, just like todays p4p rankings.

The division is totally different today therefore you need to ask yourself p4p who were the best heavyweights ever rather than thinking Lennox Lewis was 245 and Ezzard Charles was under 200.

Guys like Walcott and Charles are undervalued, they were p4p much better fighters than a Lennox Lewis was therfore they have to be rated higher, at least in my book.

Top 15 in order:
Ali, Louis, Foreman, Holmes, Frazier, Liston, Marciano, Johnson,
Lewis, Charles, Dempsey, Schmeling, Holyfield, Jeffries, Tunney

god damn stop putting lennox lewis in the heavyweight top 10 list he sucks!!!

Ali, Louis, Foreman, Dempsey, Lewis, Holyfield, Frazier, Johnson, Holmes, Norton would be my order of the greatest heavyweights of all time top ten.

That "Vitali Klitschko" at 19 was really laughable man. I think that was your intention though.

1. Muhammad "The Greatest" Ali: 55-5
2. Joe "The Brown Bomber" Louis: 68-3
3. George "Big" Foreman: 76-5
4. Rocky "The Brockton Blockbuster" Marciano: 49-0
5. Jack "The Mannasa Mauler" Dempsey: 62-6-9
6. Sonny Liston: 50-4
7. Larry "The Easton Assasin" Holmes: 69-6
8. Gene "The Fighting Marine" Tunney: 62-1-1
9. Floyd Patterson: 55-8-1
10. Evander "The Real Deal" Holyfield: 38-8-2
11. Lennox "The Lion" Lewis: 41-2-1

Ali, Louis, Foreman, Dempsey, Lewis, Holyfield, Frazier, Johnson, Holmes, Norton would be my order of the greatest heavyweights of all time top ten.

That "Vitali Klitschko" at 19 was really laughable man. I think that was your intention though.

How can you not include Rocky Marciano??

but you have Norton and Lewis on there?

Heres a more concrete top 15 list

Ali
Louis
Holmes
Holyfield
Tyson
Foreman
Lewis
Marciano
Johnson
Jeffries
Frazier
Dempsey
Burns
Liston
Bowe

why do so many people put Rocky and lennox lewis so high its stupid

Ali
Louis
Foreman
Holmes
Johnson

are the top 5 heavyweight and should always be there period

and btw id put foreman at 2 if he didnt lose to jimmy :(
Were stupid yet your name is Sturm Rules. wow now who's stupid.

Heres a more concrete top 15 list

Ali
Louis
Holmes
Holyfield
Tyson
Foreman
Lewis
Marciano
Johnson
Jeffries
Frazier
Dempsey
Burns
Liston
Bowe

Dude you got tyson ahead of Foremen, frazier, dempsey, liston, and Lewis. you also got bowe above tunney, stribling, and patterson. So how in the hell is that concrete. GODDAMN YOUR ****IN STUPID.

an absurd list, having vitali at 19!!!!!!
every time he has stepped up thus far, he has lost, he hasent come close to proving himself a true champ yet, if hes 19, you need to have the man who dominated him, byrd on the list. also, berbick and rahman???? do you really think somoeone should be considered top 30 all time based on one fight?

If dominating means getting your ass beat for 9 rounds than I agree.

enayze defend your list.

Dude you got tyson ahead of Foremen, frazier, dempsey, liston, and Lewis. you also got bowe above tunney, stribling, and patterson. So how in the hell is that concrete. GODDAMN YOUR ****IN STUPID.

Im stupid? YOu have Rocky Marciano at no.1, you should be labeled the village idiot for that one. Not to mention Tyson would've eliminated him in a matter of rounds if they fought, and to add he fought a bunch of losers, and the only outstanding name on his record was Louis, who came out of retirement at age 39 to vs him. Being the youngest heavyweight champ with 10+ title defenses along with names such as SPinks, Holmes, Ruddock, Golota, Bruno, Tucker, Seldon, and Nielsen, definately merits you to be ahead over fighters that you listed. What you want to tell me that Frazier dempsey liston and Lewis achieved higher succes than Tyson? Other than Foreman who became the oldest heavyweight champ you have nothing on Tyson.

Not to mention you have Liston ahead of Holmes!!!!!!! Holmes had 20 title defenses and an undefeated record up to 48-0, not to mention has Ali (Past his prime though), Norton, and two hand fulls of top ten conteders on his list, and you rank Liston above him?

Originally Posted by RastaSmoker
Dude you got tyson ahead of Foremen, frazier, dempsey, liston, and Lewis. you also got bowe above tunney, stribling, and patterson. So how in the hell is that concrete. GODDAMN YOUR ****IN STUPID.
We all know Foreman is better than Tyson but saying Marciano is the best heavyweight when he never fought any heavyweights is completely retarded.Marciano the best heavyweight of all time?Yeah and i am the best basketball player who ever played in the NBA but yet i never made it to the NBA and my best wins come against my nephew.

16. Primo Carnera

Wow.

but saying Marciano is the best heavyweight when he never fought any heavyweights is completely retarded.

This thread is filled with more than just a little bit of retardation, so there's no point in singling out that one guy.

My list:

Ali
Louis
Holmes
Foreman
Marciano
Johnson
Holyfield
Frazier
Lewis
Dempsey
Tyson
Patterson
Jeffries
Charles
Tunney

The last 5 were harder for me. I feel like Floyd should be higher than Tyson, but I just don't know.

Im stupid? YOu have Rocky Marciano at no.1, you should be labeled the village idiot for that one. Not to mention Tyson would've eliminated him in a matter of rounds if they fought, and to add he fought a bunch of losers, and the only outstanding name on his record was Louis, who came out of retirement at age 39 to vs him. Being the youngest heavyweight champ with 10+ title defenses along with names such as SPinks, Holmes, Ruddock, Golota, Bruno, Tucker, Seldon, and Nielsen, definately merits you to be ahead over fighters that you listed. What you want to tell me that Frazier dempsey liston and Lewis achieved higher succes than Tyson? Other than Foreman who became the oldest heavyweight champ you have nothing on Tyson.

Not to mention you have Liston ahead of Holmes!!!!!!! Holmes had 20 title defenses and an undefeated record up to 48-0, not to mention has Ali (Past his prime though), Norton, and two hand fulls of top ten conteders on his list, and you rank Liston above him?


ok, here we go again. Another noob thinking he knows whats up.

Micheal spink when he fought tyson was an old 37, holmes was 39, Ruddock wasnt that good, golota has been beat by brewster, ruiz, grant, and lewis. any time he fought a top heavyweight he lost. Bruno never steeped up as a fighter and took on top talent. Tucker just like most you named never fought top notch guys. Seldon lost to tony tubbs. WHO? exactly. Not to mention a less then motivated Mccall. Nielsen like wise was a push over.

As for Marciano, when he fought Louis, louis was the same age as spinks, and two years younger then holmes when tyson beat them.
He also took on the top of his time. And the guys he didnt fight didnt wanna fight him. He dispatched of Moore, Charles, Lastarza twice, Jersey Joe walcott twice, Harry Matthews, and rex layne. All of which were considered by most then to be class A fighter.

Tyson on the other hand has Never beaten a true Class A Heavyweight. Every time he has stepped up he has been violently knocked back down. He couldnt beat a already worn and battered Holyfield. Tyson was nothin more then a average skilled fighter. All he ever had was power and speed. He could bomb on a Prime Frazier, Marciano, Holmes, Ali, Liston, and he still wouldnt win. Because the one thing all of those fighter have in common is that they werent afraid to go past three like tyson is. Especially Ali. He could hit him 10 rounds straight and then get KTFO in the 11. Tyson doesnt belong in the top 15 of all time. He dominated a EXTREMELY Soft HW division.

Just remember, just cause you go to boxrec, and dont recognize a lot of names from the old school, doesnt mean they werent any good. The only reason why you say he is better is because he is a modern day fighter and you dont know **** about boxing History