Well can he?

Martin WBC, says he can...and the other anti american posters..

Do you agree?

No *****kins will have an easy time with ****zaghe. No fighter can look good against *****kins, just see the Roy Jones fight. He will make the best fighters in the world miss & look bad. The older *****kins is even a better fighter then the younger *****kins, he also knows how to run like a bunny now. ****zaghe is not in the same level. *****kins will win by a late TKO. :bottle:

Well can he?

Martin WBC, says he can...and the other anti american fighters..

Do you agree?You're better than this, ThaGreatest. You're "anti-American" if you think Calzaghe could beat Hopkins or don't rate Hopkins? Man, that's beneath you. Really.

Well can he?

No.




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I would have to say that this statement is rather odd, considering that they are in different weight classes, but, let's be visionary here...If they meet at 165, I think Bernard wins, especially the "old" Bernard who has learned to duck & dodge so many punches. Calzaghe would not dominate.

You're better than this, ThaGreatest. You're "anti-American" if you think Calzaghe could beat Hopkins or don't rate Hopkins? Man, that's beneath you. Really.

Did I ever say he could?

No.

Could Calzaghe beat him easier then drinking a cup of tea?

Martin WBC...


PWNED!

Did I ever say he could?

No.

Could Calzaghe beat him easier then drinking a cup of tea?

Martin WBC...


PWNED!Huh?!!? You seem to have TOTALLY misunderstood the point I was making.

Didn't ThaGreatest used to be a cool guy? Check my sig.

Did I ever say he could?

No.

Could Calzaghe beat him easier then drinking a cup of tea?

Martin WBC...


PWNED!

Calzaghe couldnt beat him easier than drinking a cup of tea but martinwbc was just exaggerating with that statement.

If you want my honest opinion - If you put Joe Calzaghe in with Bernard Hopkins tomorrow then Joe Calzaghe would butcher him, it would either be a KO/TKO or a wide UD.

If prime Hopkins fought Calzaghe it would be different, i still think Calzaghe would win but no way near as easy.

I'm not a Calzaghe fan, i dont really like him but i have to respect his ability, he's ruthless when he's up for a fight, what he lack in style he makes up for it pure physical ability, he's so fast and powerful that he'd trouble anyone.

Just wish he'd get his ass over to the US and make people fight him, he had a great start to his career, if you look at his record theres some really good names(not a lot US fans know) but he's gone off track for the last few years, Byron Mitchell was the last decent name of his record.

ALl these British always start a freaking idiopathic statement. I asked this British idiots who did Calzaghe beat that was a career defining win and all these idiots shut their mouth even that ****** Juyjuy. That's why these idiots got no respect with American fans because they overhype too much and when their fighter lose, they would make all these excuses like when Naz got beat by MAB saying excuses. Idiots, Naz got whup by a great fighter. If he thought he could beat MAB, they could have their rematch. But that ***** went home after MAB called him Mickey Mouse. And JuyJuy actually place him one of the to 5 British fighters since 1990. I dunno is British boxing is just anemic or JuyJuy is very well an idiot.

ALl these British always start a freaking idiopathic statement. I asked this British idiots who did Calzaghe beat that was a career defining win and all these idiots shut their mouth even that ****** Juyjuy. That's why these idiots got no respect with American fans because they overhype too much and when their fighter lose, they would make all these excuses like when Naz got beat by MAB saying excuses. Idiots, Naz got whup by a great fighter. If he thought he could beat MAB, they could have their rematch. But that ***** went home after MAB called him Mickey Mouse. And JuyJuy actually place him one of the to 5 British fighters since 1990. I dunno is British boxing is just anemic or JuyJuy is very well an idiot.Truly this guy is the biggest prick on The Scene.

ALl these British always start a freaking idiopathic statement. I asked this British idiots who did Calzaghe beat that was a career defining win and all these idiots shut their mouth even that ****** Juyjuy. That's why these idiots got no respect with American fans because they overhype too much and when their fighter lose, they would make all these excuses like when Naz got beat by MAB saying excuses. Idiots, Naz got whup by a great fighter. If he thought he could beat MAB, they could have their rematch. But that ***** went home after MAB called him Mickey Mouse. And JuyJuy actually place him one of the to 5 British fighters since 1990. I dunno is British boxing is just anemic or JuyJuy is very well an idiot.

Your such an idiot, stop going on about nationallity!!

For the people taking this thread so seriously...

I was just joking...

If you read MartinWBCs post on this you'll know what I'm talkin about, I just did it for a little laugh...

It was just a joke, relax, UKers...

I'm gonna bash one out...

I'm gonna bash one out...

You the man!

PS. I love you UKers...(no, not in a gay way)

Let me put it this way. Hopkins has been there done that while Calzaghe has not done a crap. Before all you British idiots start talking make sure Calzaghe has a career defining win because he may ended up like Naz, the Mickey Mouse. Actually Calzaghe can fight while Naz cannot so let's say Goofy who can fight. ha ha ha

Let me put it this way. Hopkins has been there done that while Calzaghe has not done a crap. Before all you British idiots start talking make sure Calzaghe has a career defining win because he may ended up like Naz, the Mickey Mouse. Actually Calzaghe can fight while Naz cannot so let's say Goofy who can fight. ha ha haThis guy actually started off the back of a post that said "Calzaghe has talent but it's a shame he's never had a better career". So he's contradicting that... how?

But nice to see some racism on the board.

ha ha ha ha you freaking analytically challange moron. I said the diffrence between Naz and Calzaghe was one can fight while one is a clown. ha ha ha ha. You anorak idiot, you might as well do lobotomy cuz you're worthless piece of ****.

ha ha ha ha you freaking analytically challange moron. I said the diffrence between Naz and Calzaghe was one can fight while one is a clown. ha ha ha ha. You anorak idiot, you might as well do lobotomy cuz you're worthless piece of ****.No, you were RESPONDING to a point I made. Check the thread again.

Worthless piece of ****? You don't even know me. Who are you, anyway?

I don't have to know you, either way you are worthless piece of ****. ha ha ha ha ha.

I think Calzaghe would definately beat Hopkins.Calzaghe is a class act but maybe slipping a bit but would still beat Hopkins.Hopkins is a product of the world renowned USA hype.

I don't have to know you, either way you are worthless piece of ****. ha ha ha ha ha.You really are an absolute idiot, aren't you?

You really are an absolute idiot, aren't you?

I'll answer for him: Yes.

Calzaghe couldnt beat him easier than drinking a cup of tea but martinwbc was just exaggerating with that statement.

If you want my honest opinion - If you put Joe Calzaghe in with Bernard Hopkins tomorrow then Joe Calzaghe would butcher him, it would either be a KO/TKO or a wide UD.

If prime Hopkins fought Calzaghe it would be different, i still think Calzaghe would win but no way near as easy.

I'm not a Calzaghe fan, i dont really like him but i have to respect his ability, he's ruthless when he's up for a fight, what he lack in style he makes up for it pure physical ability, he's so fast and powerful that he'd trouble anyone.

Just wish he'd get his ass over to the US and make people fight him, he had a great start to his career, if you look at his record theres some really good names(not a lot US fans know) but he's gone off track for the last few years, Byron Mitchell was the last decent name of his record.


CAlzaghe is a bum dude, you are out of your mind. byron mitchell is nowhere near on hopkins level, and calzaghe has never even won a legitamite world title, wbo is ****

You are infinite idiot.

British idiots always claimed their champ as the legit world champ. I dunno how many idiots will buy that crap. To me only idiots will put up with all that crap about Calzaghe this and Calzaghe that. When asked who this sucker ever beat that was a career defining win and all these idiots cannot answer directly. Like I said, whenevr I'm here, they will fool nobody.

You are infinite idiot.Well that's told me, hasn't it? :)

British idiots always claimed their champ as the legit world champ. I dunno how many idiots will buy that crap. To me only idiots will put up with all that crap about Calzaghe this and Calzaghe that. When asked who this sucker ever beat that was a career defining win and all these idiots cannot answer directly.Am I still arguing with this guy?. Like I've always said right from day one Calzaghe hasn't had a career defining fight and I've never said he has had one. All I said was he's got talent and I'd like to see him test that. A simple statement.

Like I said, whenevr I'm here, they will fool nobody.That's a very powerful statement that is. No, really.

Ha ha ha ha since you agreed Calzaghe have never had a career defining career then phukk off, you still an infinite idiot, if you are an infinite idiot, i dunno what to call elviel, he actually said Calzaghe will knock out Hopkins, FYI biatch Hopkins has never ever been knockout in his career. Elviel is a nitwit eternity. and bongobum well it it fits his same, did this moron actually said USA is world renowned hype. So basically he means Ali, Robinson, Louis, Pep, Tunney, Greb are all hype. This is the worst stupidest comment that I ever heard, more stupid than that idiot McKay and that nitwit elviel. Bongobum you now officially an idiot.

Ha ha ha ha since you agreed Calzaghe have never had a career defining career then phukk offNo, no, no... I didn't AGREE that Calzaghe hadn't had a career-defining fight. I said it in the first place. You came along and joined the thread afterwards, arguing the toss about something I hadn't even said. Get it?

you still an infinite idiot, if you are an infinite idiot, i dunno what to call elvielErrr... something with "idiot" in it, perhaps?

Elviel is a nitwit eternity.Well I was close...

Bongobum you now officially an idiotWelcome to the club, Bongo. Don't slash your wrists after this guy's scathing attack, will you?

Before Ricky Hatton fought Tszyu, I would say Calzaghe over here in Britain was regarded as P4P a better fighter than Ricky Hatton. And we all know the "hype" around Ricky was backed up and then some!
Why cant it be the same for Calzaghe?

If they fought this year Calzaghe wins via late KO

Unlike Hatton, Calzaghe is not getting younger. This guy has beating b fighters. He has never been tested, if he wants respect he need to fight in America where most of the best fighters fight. Because if he won't he will ended up like Dariusz. If he fight Lacy, his head movement will be tested even more, actually Lacy might clocked him with a kisser.

What happened to you ThaGreatest?... Why have you gone all weird on me?

I started that old thread about a month ago and I was pissed out of my head when I did...

It's just for fun.

I think Calzaghe would definately beat Hopkins.Calzaghe is a class act but maybe slipping a bit but would still beat Hopkins.Hopkins is a product of the world renowned USA hype.


I find this ironic because of the fact that Hopkins has faced the best his division has to offer, he doesnt pull out of fights with "injury" and Hopkins doesnt protect himself or hide behind any promoters. Calzaghe is ALL HYPE, ALL HYPE, no real names on that resume that werent past their prime. Hopkins will always be a revered champion, Calzhage wont.

CAlzaghe is a bum dude, you are out of your mind. byron mitchell is nowhere near on hopkins level, and calzaghe has never even won a legitamite world title, wbo is ****

Your out of your mind, winning a world title against Chris Eubank means its legit, the WBO is probably one of the best belts, do some research and look at who holds them.

Mitchell may not have been at the same level as a prime Hopkins but the Byron Micthell Calzaghe fought would beat current Hopkins. Hopkins was a really good fighter in his prime but he's terrible now, wake the **** up and see things as they are, Hopkins run away from average Eastman and got beat by a very, very green Taylor, his reign is over, he's nearly 41 and is ready for the scrap heap. If you cant see he's done then your blind with bias.

Calzaghe would butcher Hopkins in a few rounds, he wouldnt stand a chance anymore!! Even prime Hopkins turned down Calzaghe, he knows he'd get beat.

Hopkins plan to retire by fighting a green Taylor and a feather fisted Winky, he'd never get in with a dangerous fighter anymore.

EDIT: i have has a couple of comments about the WBO being the best, if you cant read very well it says "probably one of the best". Dumb ****s.

I find this ironic because of the fact that Hopkins has faced the best his division has to offer, he doesnt pull out of fights with "injury" and Hopkins doesnt protect himself or hide behind any promoters. Calzaghe is ALL HYPE, ALL HYPE, no real names on that resume that werent past their prime. Hopkins will always be a revered champion, Calzhage wont.

Have you even looked at Calzaghe's record, have you even seen him fight??

I dont understand why people say Eubank was past his prime against Calzaghe, he was only 31!!

Have you even looked at Calzaghe's record, have you even seen him fight??

I dont understand why people say Eubank was past his prime against Calzaghe, he was only 31!!


Yes ive seen him fight, and yes i saw his record. Why should I respect him with a resume like that? 33 years old and nobody barely knows who the **** he is here. Even your own people in the UK tend not to like him, then again, thats just a couple of friends so i could be dead ****in wrong.

Ive never seen him against any decent competition, he looks good against bums, but when he takes on Lacy, a win against Lacy would change my opinion of him totally.

Why should I respect him with a resume like that? 33 years old and nobody barely knows who the **** he is here.I love the UScentric arrogance SOME posters have on here that borders on existential philosophy.

Like asking if a falling tree makes a sound with no one to hear it, I regularly read ruminations along the likes of "If a fighter hasn't been on American television, is he a bum?" The idea that someone would write off a professional boxer because they personally haven't seem them is beyond me. There's plenty of US boxers that haven't been on UK TV yet (Taylor's UK debut was, I believe, the Hopkins fight) but does that make them garbage just because my TV station hasn't bought the rights to screen them?

Yes ive seen him fight, and yes i saw his record. Why should I respect him with a resume like that? 33 years old and nobody barely knows who the **** he is here. Even your own people in the UK tend not to like him, then again, thats just a couple of friends so i could be dead ****in wrong.

Ive never seen him against any decent competition, he looks good against bums, but when he takes on Lacy, a win against Lacy would change my opinion of him totally.

You musnt know the fighters he's faced, the super middle division has been controlled by european figters for a long time now so American dont get to see the best matches(a lot of them were genuine world champs). His record is good, just no one of note recently, like i said the last time he fought someone decent was Mitchell and he wasnt exactly brilliant. I think he fights a lot worst against bums, he's not even trying so when he faces Lacy we should see his focus return.

Calzaghe annoys the **** out of me but he's a good fighter, he doesnt get the respect he deserves, thats partly his fault and partly the fault of fighters ducking him. you have just gotta watch Calzaghe vs Eubank(who was i great shape and only 31) to see the real Calzaghe, it was embarrassing to see him bust up a very good former champ.

I love the UScentric arrogance SOME posters have on here that borders on existential philosophy.

Like asking if a falling tree makes a sound with no one to hear it, I regularly read ruminations along the likes of "If a fighter hasn't been on American television, is he a bum?" The idea that someone would write off a professional boxer because they personally haven't seem them is beyond me. There's plenty of US boxers that haven't been on UK TV yet (Taylor's UK debut was, I believe, the Hopkins fight) but does that make them garbage just because my TV station hasn't bought the rights to screen them?

A lot of American fans are ignorant to what doesnt come to them, i prefer to watch at least 5 fights of the fighter i comment on. i dont think you can have a judgement if you havent really seen them fight.

A lot of American fans are ignorant to what doesnt come to them, i prefer to watch at least 5 fights of the fighter i comment on. i dont think you can have a judgement if you havent really seen them fight.Agreed. Sometimes just a glance at boxrec and a photo of them in The Ring doesn't tell you everything.

Your out of your mind, winning a world title against Chris Eubank means its legit, the WBO is probably one of the best belt anyone, do some research and look at who holds them.

Mitchell may not have been at the same level as a prime Hopkins but the Byron Micthell Calzaghe fought would beat current Hopkins. Hopkins was a really good fighter in his prime but he's terrible now, wake the **** up and see things as they are, Hopkins run away from average Eastman and got beat by a very, very green Taylor, his reign is over, he's nearly 41 and is ready for the scrap heap. If you cant see he's done then your blind with bias.

Calzaghe would butcher Hopkins in a few rounds, he wouldnt stand a chance anymore!! Even prime Hopkins turned down Calzaghe, he knows he'd get beat.

Hopkins plan to retire by fighting a green Taylor and a feather fisted Winky, he'd never get in with a dangerous fighter anymore.The WBO was considered a joke like 15 years ago. Always the true belts been WBC, WBA & IBF. Eubank was a washed up fighter, are you actually proud of that win. ****zaghe would've never beaten the Eubank that beat Benn. To put ****zaghe in the same class as *****kins is a joke. The young *****kins & the old & wiser *****kins would've beaten ****zaghe any day, you know it & everyone else that knows a little about boxing knows it.

The WBO was considered a joke like 15 years ago. Always the true belts been WBC, WBA & IBF. Eubank was a washed up fighter, are you actually proud of that win. ****zaghe would've never beaten the Eubank that beat Benn. To put ****zaghe in the same class as *****kins is a joke. The young *****kins & the old & wiser *****kins would've beaten ****zaghe any day, you know it & everyone else that knows a little about boxing knows it.

I couldnt care what you say because you know **** all about boxing, you have proven that over and over again.

BTW, this isnt 15 years ago you dumb ass.

I couldnt care what you say because you know **** all about boxing, you have proven that over and over again.I know 100 times more then you biased homer.

Agreed. Sometimes just a glance at boxrec and a photo of them in The Ring doesn't tell you everything.

Boxrec's a great site but its causes a lot of problems, one glance at it and the idiots think they know boxing. I know what i know from a huge fight libary.

I know 100 times more then you biased homer.

If that was true you would know when to shut the hell up!!

If that was true you would know when to shut the hell up!!Ta Ta Cherrio!

I know 100 times more then you biased homer.
Evil, you just got pwned!

Its easier to sit there and point the finger at the fact that because im american, im an ignorant fight fan, thats fine. But again, what reason should i have that i should show the utmost respect for Calzhage? I mentioned the fact that hes an unknown here, because at 33, with 10 years of not losing, how do you waste your ****ing career fighting in your homeland, and not expanding your fanbase and audience by fighting here?

I dont not rate him because hes from the UK, i dont rate him because i dont have much of a reason to do so other than the times ive seen him look decent against C level fighters. Dont walk around with a ****ing chip on your shoulder and pull out the "OH NO HES AMERICAN" card because i dont ****ing care, im not patriotic, so you can throw that card right out the ****ing window.

Its easier to sit there and point the finger at the fact that because im american, im an ignorant fight fan, thats fine. But again, what reason should i have that i should show the utmost respect for Calzhage? I mentioned the fact that hes an unknown here, because at 33, with 10 years of not losing, how do you waste your ****ing career fighting in your homeland, and not expanding your fanbase and audience by fighting here?

I dont not rate him because hes from the UK, i dont rate him because i dont have much of a reason to do so other than the times ive seen him look decent against C level fighters. Dont walk around with a ****ing chip on your shoulder and pull out the "OH NO HES AMERICAN" card because i dont ****ing care, im not patriotic, so you can throw that card right out the ****ing window.


But earlier we had this: "Yes ive seen him fight [...] Even your own people in the UK tend not to like him."

Although I apologise because I initially misread that as "Yes I've NEVER seen him fight" it DOES seem to bring nationality into it.

Anyway, check my sig.

Its easier to sit there and point the finger at the fact that because im american, im an ignorant fight fan, thats fine.

No one said **** about you, the comments were as a general and no directed at you.

Parodius is the only retard in this thread.

Evil, you just got pwned!

:rolleyes:

Yeah, i'm hurting inside, i'll never live it down.

Did I ever say he could?

No.

Could Calzaghe beat him easier then drinking a cup of tea?

Martin WBC...


PWNED!
ThaGreatest... It's pretty f**kin' sad when someone says you got "owned". It's such an American "teenager angry at their parents" thing to say...

But it's even worse when you spell it...

PWNED! - Go back to ebaumsworld!... LOL!...

WBO is the best belt? ARe you idiots ****ing kidding me. Just because British tend to get to get the WBO means more than than a crap. and he actually said that Mitchell can beat the current Hopkins what da phukk are you saying idiot. Even young stud Taylor barely beat Hopkins, how are you gonna tell me a B fighter like Mitchell can beat Hopkins. Just because Mitchell clock your chump means he's gonna do something. And Hopkins was toying with your boy Eastman you nitwit. He was consistently clocking him with a left hook, jab here and there made Eastman looks like fool. That bum has his both hands down so he got exposed.

WBO is the best belt? ARe you idiots ****ing kidding me. Just because British tend to get to get the WBO means more than than a crap. and he actually said that Mitchell can beat the current Hopkins what da phukk are you saying idiot. Even young stud Taylor barely beat Hopkins, how are you gonna tell me a B fighter like Mitchell can beat Hopkins. Just because Mitchell clock your chump means he's gonna do something. And Hopkins was toying with your boy Eastman you nitwit. He was consistently clocking him with a left hook, jab here and there made Eastman looks like fool. That bum has his both hands down so he got exposed.Evil, you're getting pwned up to the max by this guy.

Calzaghe isn't going to get past Lacy. How the hell could he have ever beaten Hopkins? lol, this is amusing

Calzaghe isn't going to get past Lacy. How the hell could he have ever beaten Hopkins? lol, this is amusingOne theoretical presumption = validation of another theoretical presumption?!!!?

WBO is the best belt? ARe you idiots ****ing kidding me. Just because British tend to get to get the WBO means more than than a crap. and he actually said that Mitchell can beat the current Hopkins what da phukk are you saying idiot. Even young stud Taylor barely beat Hopkins, how are you gonna tell me a B fighter like Mitchell can beat Hopkins. Just because Mitchell clock your chump means he's gonna do something. And Hopkins was toying with your boy Eastman you nitwit. He was consistently clocking him with a left hook, jab here and there made Eastman looks like fool. That bum has his both hands down so he got exposed.

Hopkins is ****ing **** now, he run like a ***** from Eastman! And get it right you ****ing retard, Eastman aint my boy, i dont like average fighters regardless of the nationallity. Eastman is a fool, but he still made your boy run like a scared little girl. Hopkins was one of my favourite fighter when he was good but now he's two years late for retirement.

Oh my ****ing god, Taylor is nothing special, he's about 3/4 years away from being ready for a title shot, its only because he American he got a shot early and only because Hopkins is too old he won it. If Taylor was fighting in the majority of other divisons he'd be lucky to be top 5.

Who said the WBO belt is the best?? I never said that ****, i only said a lot of good fighters hold the belt so it must be good, no belt is the overall best, the champion makes the belt good not the other way round. So at heavyweight the WBC is the best belt, at Super middle the WBO is the best belt and at light middle the best is the IBF. Even if the best fighter in a division holds the IBO belt it will still be the best belt in that division because the best fighter holds it.

I dont know why i bother, your a dumb ass, brain washed fool who wouldnt know clever if it smacked you in the face.

Hopkins a ****ing joke, he run like a ***** from Eastman! And get it right you ****ing retard, Eastman aint my boy, i dont like average fighters regardless of the nationallity. Eastman is a fool, but he still made your boy run like a scared little girl.

Oh my ****ing god, Taylor is nothing special, he's about 3/4 years away from being ready for a title shot, its only because he American he got a shot and only because Hopkins is too old he won it. If Taylor was fighting in the majority of other divisons he'd be lucky to be top 5.

Who said the WBO belt is the best?? I never said that ****, i only said a lot of good fighters hold the belt so it must be good, no belt is the overall best, the champion makes the belt good not the other way round. So at heavyweight the WBC is the best belt, at Super middle the WBO is the best belt and at light middle the best is the IBF. Even if the best fighter in a division holds the IBO belt it will still be the best belt in that division because the best fighter holds it.

I dont know why i bother, your a dumb ass, brain washed fool who wouldnt know clever if it smacked you in the face.Suck a **** you dumb Limey ***get! Pwned!

Hopkins is ****ing **** now, he run like a ***** from Eastman! And get it right you ****ing retard, Eastman aint my boy, i dont like average fighters regardless of the nationallity. Eastman is a fool, but he still made your boy run like a scared little girl. Hopkins was one of my favourite fighter when he was good but now he's two years late for retirement.

Oh my ****ing god, Taylor is nothing special, he's about 3/4 years away from being ready for a title shot, its only because he American he got a shot and only because Hopkins is too old he won it. If Taylor was fighting in the majority of other divisons he'd be lucky to be top 5.

Who said the WBO belt is the best?? I never said that ****, i only said a lot of good fighters hold the belt so it must be good, no belt is the overall best, the champion makes the belt good not the other way round. So at heavyweight the WBC is the best belt, at Super middle the WBO is the best belt and at light middle the best is the IBF. Even if the best fighter in a division holds the IBO belt it will still be the best belt in that division because the best fighter holds it.

I dont know why i bother, your a dumb ass, brain washed fool who wouldnt know clever if it smacked you in the face.Taylor will kill ****zaghe if they ever fight. *****kins will kill ****zaghe if they ever fight.

Taylor will kill ****zaghe if they ever fight. *****kins will kill ****zaghe if they ever fight.This is a sterling intellectual pugilistic debate we're having here. Well done all round.

Taylor will kill ****zaghe if they ever fight. *****kins will kill ****zaghe if they ever fight.

Good come back, you had me stumped for a moment :rolleyes:

The problem is they wont fight, there's no way Bernard Duckins(i'm sinking to your level of name changing) will man up, he's called out Tarver, Jones, Calzaghe, etc, etc, etc but the only reason is because he knows none of them can come down to his weight class, he can just hide at middle fighting welterweights.

Taylor seems decent, he will hopefuly have the balls to face a challenge, he's just not ready for elite world class yet.

Good come back, you had me stumped for a moment :rolleyes:

The problem is they wont fight, there's no way Bernard Duckins(i'm sinking to your level of name changing) will man up, he's called out Tarver, Jones, Calzaghe, etc, etc, etc but the only reason is because he knows none of them can come down to his weight class, he can just hide at middle fighting welterweights.

Taylor seems decent, he will hopefuly have the balls to face a challenge, he's just not ready for elite world class yet.Taylor just beat the so called #1 P4P guy. In your opinion ****zaghe is the elite boxers. Noway in hell I see ****zaghe beating Taylor.

YA are a freaking idiot. Hopkins was clocking up this overhype Eastman on his right jaw over and over and over again. And Eastman cannot do a damn thing about it. Hopkins could beat that fool with a left hand, he beat tha crap out of that guy with only laser sharp single. And you actually think *****ell would beat Hopkins, ya are nitwit. Just admit it, Calzaghe never fought nobody. You piece of shiet. Hopkins is right there among the great middlewight of all time.

Taylor just beat the so called #1 P4P guy. In your opinion ****zaghe is the elite boxers. Noway in hell I see ****zaghe beating Taylor.Taylor didn't "beat" Hopkins though, did he? And what does "p4p" have in terms of bearing on a debate like this - particularly when it's outside divisions? It's a theoretical ranking, not a literal one.

Taylor just beat the so called #1 P4P guy. In your opinion ****zaghe is the elite boxers. Noway in hell I see ****zaghe beating Taylor.

Dont you realise i think Hopkins is overated?? He wasnt the number 1 P4P fighter, he wasnt even close.

I wont disrespect Taylor because he's not an ******* but i will say he's lucky he's a middleweight, he's even luckier he caught an old Hopkins who was well past his prime.

*** Just to repeat myself, Hopkins was a good fighter, i rated him very highly(even though he ducked heavier fighters) a few years ago but i'm a realist, i know he's well past his prime ***

Taylor didn't "beat" Hopkins though, did he? And what does "p4p" have in terms of bearing on a debate like this - particularly when it's outside divisions? It's a theoretical ranking, not a literal one.Because that idiot homer said this "Taylor seems decent, he will hopefuly have the balls to face a challenge, he's just not ready for elite world class yet"

Because that idiot homer said this "Taylor seems decent, he will hopefuly have the balls to face a challenge, he's just not ready for elite world class yet"I agree with that... he was well out of his depth at that level, he's just lucky Hopkin is getting old and gave him the fight as a gift.

Dont you realise i think Hopkins is overated?? He wasnt the number 1 P4P fighter, he wasnt even close.

I wont disrespect Taylor because he's not an ******* but i will say he's lucky he's a middleweight, he's even luckier he caught an old Hopkins who was well past his prime.

*** Just to repeat myself, Hopkins was a good fighter, i rated him very highly(even though he ducked heavier fighters) a few years ago but i'm a realist, i know he's well past his prime ***That shows how much you know about boxing. *****kins is better at 40 then he was at 25. The hold *****kins would've beaten the *****kins that fought Roy Jones. *****kins is not washed up like many of the other boxers at his age or even younger. *****kins was very underrated until he beat Tito. Roy Jones didn't look good against *****kins, no boxer will ever look good against *****kins. Anyone is overrating a boxer is you with ****zaghe.

I agree with that... he was well out of his depth at that level, he's just lucky Hopkin is getting old and gave him the fight as a gift.If you think *****kins is washed up, then you really don't know your boxing.

YA are a freaking idiot. Hopkins was clocking up this overhype Eastman on his right jaw over and over and over again. And Eastman cannot do a damn thing about it. Hopkins could beat that fool with a left hand, he beat tha crap out of that guy with only laser sharp single. And you actually think *****ell would beat Hopkins, ya are nitwit. Just admit it, Calzaghe never fought nobody. You piece of shiet. Hopkins is right there among the great middlewight of all time.

Byron Mitchell was a decent fighter, in his prime its possible he could have beaten a 40 year old hopkins. I'd favour him in that fight, i just dont know why you think Hopkins is so good, your probably the type of fan who thought Tyson was going to be a world champ again before the Mcbride fight, infact you probably still think that. Prime Bernard Hopkins would murder Bryon Mitchell but my point is that he's not prime anymore, thats how much he's slipped.

If there is one thing i can teach you, it is that fighters get old, they dont stay good for ever. Get over it, Hopkins is not the fighter he once was.

In future, if you want a debate with me then learn to spell first(or at the very least proof read what you type).

Because that idiot homer said this "Taylor seems decent, he will hopefuly have the balls to face a challenge, he's just not ready for elite world class yet"

That was a general comment you idiot, god damn why are you such hard work?? If i was talking about Calzaghe i would have mentioned his name.

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If you think *****kins is washed up, then you really don't know your boxing.

if you think this the same hopkins that beat tito, allen, holmes, echols into submission, what do you think you know about boxing?

why do you tihnk he takes so many rounds off, and fights in spurts? because he likes the thrill of losing? come on be real

If you think *****kins is washed up, then you really don't know your boxing.You see, saying stuff like "you don't know boxing" isn't really much of an argument, is it? And I didn't say he was "washed up"... I said he was getting old. There's a difference.

if you think this the same hopkins that beat tito, allen, holmes, echols into submission, what do you think you know about boxing?

why do you tihnk he takes so many rounds off, and fights in spurts? because he likes the thrill of losing? come on be real
Hallelujah!

if you think this the same hopkins that beat tito, allen, holmes, echols into submission, what do you think you know about boxing?

why do you tihnk he takes so many rounds off, and fights in spurts? because he likes the thrill of losing? come on be real*****kins fights different styles, it all depends who he's fights. Go look at some old *****kins fight, before you come in make yourself look like an idiot. The guy took off rounds like 10 years ago in some fights.

That was a general comment you idiot, god damn why are you such hard work?? If i was talking about Calzaghe i would have mentioned his name.

http://www.cs.toronto.edu/~yuana/stupid.gifAll you do is talk about ****zaghe & Fatton. You make them out to be superhuman fighters. Then you don't call yourself an homer. I've proved that your an idiot like 10 different times. Ta Ta Cherrio!

All you do is talk about ****zaghe & Fatton. You make them out to be superhuman fighters. Then you don't call yourself an homer. I've proved that your an idiot like 10 different times. Ta Ta Cherrio!Yeah, you should at least call yourself a homer, Evil.

Why are we still bothering?

Hopkins already cemented his place in the history of boxing. Whether you like it or not, he's one of the best if not the best in this generation. even on his 40s, Hopkins still a stud something Benn and Eubank, Dariusz never were. Hopkins has never been knockout in his career paralling Hagler. I wonder what happened to Calzaghe if he turned 40. I know you idiots will retrieve from from obscurity, saying could have, if, would have. You idiots have to separate facts from fiction.

Yeah, you should at least call yourself a homer, Evil.

Why are we still bothering?I'm not an idiot like you. At least I know my boxing & I'm nut nut-hugging homer like you. Ta Ta Cherrio!

That shows how much you know about boxing. *****kins is better at 40 then he was at 25. The hold *****kins would've beaten the *****kins that fought Roy Jones. *****kins is not washed up like many of the other boxers at his age or even younger. *****kins was very underrated until he beat Tito. Roy Jones didn't look good against *****kins, no boxer will ever look good against *****kins. Anyone is overrating a boxer is you with ****zaghe.

I dont overate Calzaghe, i know he's not the slickest boxer around but i also know he's a born winner with an amazing physical ability. Not many super middle's are a fast and powerful as him, he's a full 3 mins of every round fighter too.

All you do is talk about ****zaghe & Fatton. You make them out to be superhuman fighters. Then you don't call yourself an homer. I've proved that your an idiot like 10 different times. Ta Ta Cherrio!

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God damn you, i talk about every fighter but it just so happens your lack of boxing knowledge means we go head 2 head over Hatton and Calzaghe. Its your fault you dont know a decent boxer when you see one and its your fault you just repeat what you read. If you took the time to watch different fighters then you would know the world doesnt revolve around those with a US passport.

Elviel is a nitwit he has one of cognitivily challange moron in this forum. Before you start praising your boyfriend, make sure he has done something you worthless piece of fecal matter. He has not done anything on his career and if you think Mitchell is that good then you have sorry IQ and Eastman was a target practice you piece of shiet.

*****kins fights different styles, it all depends who he's fights. Go look at some old *****kins fight, before you come in make yourself look like an idiot. The guy took off rounds like 10 years ago in some fights.

don't need to watch more hop fights, I have had enough

if my memories are not wrong it never happened that he did take like first HALF of the fight off, right?

also I don't recall him spending a few rounds running like he did against eastman, right?

don't bs or you'll look like an idiot

Hopkins already cemented his place in the history of boxing. Whether you like it or not, he's one of the best if not the best in this generation. even on his 40s, Hopkins still a stud something Benn and Eubank, Dariusz never were. Hopkins has never been knockout in his career paralling Hagler. I wonder what happened to Calzaghe if he turned 40. I know you idiots will retrieve from from obscurity, saying could have, if, would have. You idiots have to separate facts from fiction.

The only names on Hopkins' record is Tito and DLH, they were both well above their weight class. Hopkins was a good fighter but when he faced a great one(Jones jr) at his own weight, he got a beating.

Prime Hopkins = Very good, not great.

Forget Hopkins 20 defences, the majority were against poor fighters, if you believe defences make greatness you would believe Calzaghe's 15 would make him great too, which isnt true.

I'm not an idiot like you. At least I know my boxing & I'm nut nut-hugging homer like you. Ta Ta Cherrio!
So... you call me an idiot, saying "I know nothing about boxing" (where is this, an under 5s playground?) and then make a racist remark.

And this is a good comeback... how?? :confused:

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God damn you, i talk about every fighter but it just so happens your lack of boxing knowledge means we go head 2 head over Hatton and Calzaghe. Its your fault you dont know a decent boxer when you see one and its your fault you just repeat what you read. If you took the time to watch different fighters then you would know the world doesnt revolve around those with a US passport.Doesn't Fatton & ****zaghe owns the world belts, one is WBO which was meaningless like 10 years ago. Those are American belts, if you don't fight in America you are not respected, period. If you don't know this by now, then I can't help you. Why you think many Japanese Baseball players wants to play in America, because they want to get respected. 90% of your post are about Fatton & ****zaghe, at least admit your an homer.

So... you call me an idiot, saying "I know nothing about boxing" (where is this, an under 5s playground?) and then make a racist remark.

And this is a good comeback... how?? :confused:That was not a raciest remark. I just said Ta Ta Cherrio.

That was not a raciest remark. I just said Ta Ta Cherrio.
You called me a "homer".

You called me a "homer". That's not raciest. It's the fact! Although your not as bad as elveiel. Ta Ta Cherrio!

Elviel is a nitwit he has one of cognitivily challange moron in this forum. Before you start praising your boyfriend, make sure he has done something you worthless piece of fecal matter. He has not done anything on his career and if you think Mitchell is that good then you have sorry IQ and Eastman was a target practice you piece of shiet.

Nitwit, are you a 12 year old??

I didnt say Mitchell was good, i said he was a decent fighter, his world title proved that!! What i said was Hopkins is that bad now, he'd probably get beat by a prime Mitchell.

Once again, Hopkins was good but not anymore.

Stop lowering the tone, why do idiots bring being gay into a boxing arguements?? that just means you think homosexual thoughts when your writing, sicko!!

That's not raciest. It's the fact! Although your not as bad as elveiel. Ta Ta Cherrio!It's not a fact at all. I've said all along I think Calzaghe's a good fighter but he's never had the opponents... what's being a "homer" about that?

Ta Ta Cherrio!

lmfao. Jolly-----O.

Calzaghe 15 defense is full of bums. Only idiot like you wants to make Mitchell is really that good just to hype Calzaghe. Who are ya fooling idiot. Hopkins beat a couple of Hall of Famers idiot. Hopkins was 3 to 1 underdog when he beat the crap out of Tito. Lacy gonna clock that Calzaghe with a kisser. Mitchell has just exposed his lack of head movement.

Doesn't Fatton & ****zaghe owns the world belts, one is WBO which was meaningless like 10 years ago. Those are American belts, if you don't fight in America you are not respected, period. If you don't know this by now, then I can't help you. Why you think many Japanese Baseball players wants to play in America, because they want to get respected. 90% of your post are about Fatton & ****zaghe, at least admit your an homer.

I think you confuse money with respect, in every sport the best athletes go to were they will earn the most money. Japanese baseball player go to the US because they know no other country likes the game, never mind pays to watch it.

Most boxers go to the US for money, thats it, nothing else.

You are so sad, are your still a virgin. :D

I think you confuse money with respect, in every sport the best athletes go to were they will earn the most money. Japanese baseball player go to the US because they know no other country likes the game, never mind pays to watch it.

Most boxers go to the US for money, thats it, nothing else.

You are so sad, are your still a virgin. :D No I'm not a virgin, your sister forced me to have sex with her when I was in London, she wasn't hot, but I did her a favor. So you & your sister should thank me. Again you don't know nothing about baseball, then you put your 2 cents in. You are just an idiot, I can't help you mate.

No actually Japanese players wants to test their ability. The best players play in America and the decent and mediocre stays in their country. Look at the mediocre and decent American ball players, they have to go to Japan and play because they don't stood a chance to play in America. Money comes with it, some Japanese players actually make lesser money playing in US then playing in Japan. Just like in NBA some Europe and American players get less money playing in NBA instead of playing Europe. The money applies to the best. Best money comes from best competition.

No I'm not a virgin, your sister forced me to have sex with her when I was in London, she wasn't hot, but I did her a favor. So you & your sister should thank me. Again you don't know nothing about baseball, then you put your 2 cents in. You are just an idiot, I can't help you mate.

I dont want to know anything about baseball, its the most boring sport i have ever seen. All i know is the only country who really cares about it is America, why's that statement wrong??

I dont want to know anything about baseball, its the most boring sport i have ever seen. All i know is the only country who really cares about it is America, why's that statement wrong??Yea you probably love Cricket & Polo.

Only USA cares about the sport. Let me get with the drumroll you freaking idiot. Cuba, Dominican Republic, Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, Puerto Rico. If you dunno waht da phukk you are talking about then better shut da phukk before I'll burn you freaking nitwit.

Yea you probably love Cricket & Polo.

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I'm on a boxing website, that should give you a clue as to what sport i like.

Only USA cares about the sport. Let me get with the drumroll you freaking idiot. Cuba, Dominican Republic, Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, Puerto Rico. If you dunno waht da phukk you are talking about then better shut da phukk before I'll burn you freaking nitwit.

Oh, i'm so sorry, please dont burn me :rolleyes:

I'm stepping out of this debate now... why I first got involved is beyond me. Good luck, Evil... it's not worth it.

Oh, check my new sig.

That's what I thought *****, if ya dunno what da phukk ya talking about, then shut da phukk up.

well i dont think hopkins was ovverrated or underrated. jus IMO he lost the fight. and calzaghe is pretty dam good, aobut him vs hopkins well id ont know, depends on the weihgt

That's what I thought *****, if ya dunno what da phukk ya talking about, then shut da phukk up.
you spelt **** wrong

That's what I thought *****, if ya dunno what da phukk ya talking about, then shut da phukk up.

Who are you talking to?? Use the quote button to save confusion, your confusing enough without the "who the **** are you talking to" problem.

you spelt **** wrong

He spells so much wrong its just easier to point out what he spelt correctly. :D

SInce you idiots have nothin better to say, then better to shut the phukk up.