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Sir Fancylot
08-04-2005, 08:48 PM
This isn't a shot about anybody, its just a few urban legends cleared up.


Note: this has been edited for elaboration, thankyou to PD for pointing out this...

Running on an empty stomach is not beneficial.
e.g.: waking up at 4am and going for a run is no different than waiting a while after a meal and then running, infact once your food has gone down, your performance will be better than when your body is tired and lacks energy.

Lifting weights DOES help, but polymetrics ARE better.
For instance, without lifting weights or doing some sort of basic strength training, it is unlikely you will have the basic strength to do polymetrics effectively in the first place.

Punching the heavy bag with just handwraps can damage your hands + spread your knuckles due to the repeated impact against your unprotected knuckles, wear some bag gloves.

There are multiple threads made on these subjects, and in my experience that is pretty much the facts, of course as punchdrunk has said..results differ between people.

Tha Greatest
08-04-2005, 08:52 PM
This isn't a shot about anybody, its just a few urban legends cleared up.

Running on an empty stomach is not beneficial.

Lifting weights DOES help, but polymetrics ARE better.

Punching the heavy bag with just handwraps can damage your hands + spread your knuckles.

There are multiple threads made on these subjects, and those are the facts pretty much...so stop making the threads



:p :p


Thank you, mate!

Some people are retarded, some will just end up getting 1stroundKOd !!

Another tip, Jimmy the Gent, don't drop your left when u jab cuz I will land a blazing right and knock your ***** ass out motha****a

michaeljackson
08-05-2005, 02:38 AM
We appreciate you clearing up those discrepancies for us. Some people will try anything, and they usually end up paying the price at the outset.

random guy
08-05-2005, 03:09 AM
someone should make this a sticky

Dyl-G
08-05-2005, 03:45 AM
This isn't a shot about anybody, its just a few urban legends cleared up.

Running on an empty stomach is not beneficial.

Lifting weights DOES help, but polymetrics ARE better.

Punching the heavy bag with just handwraps can damage your hands + spread your knuckles.

There are multiple threads made on these subjects, and those are the facts pretty much...so stop making the threads



:p :p

and why does everyone suddenly believe him? when he has no proof that anything he thinks is correct? you guys are like lambs

random guy
08-05-2005, 05:29 AM
maybe because it's true

PunchDrunk
08-05-2005, 11:29 AM
This isn't a shot about anybody, its just a few urban legends cleared up.

Running on an empty stomach is not beneficial.

Lifting weights DOES help, but polymetrics ARE better.

Punching the heavy bag with just handwraps can damage your hands + spread your knuckles.

There are multiple threads made on these subjects, and those are the facts pretty much...so stop making the threads



:p :p

Not meaning to sound harsh, but you're not clearing up any urban legends. You're oversimplifying things, which will cause people to misunderstand certain issues. Things aren't black and white.

Example: "Running on an empty stomach is not beneficial." You're giving people the impression they should eat before they run. The only thing that will do, is upset your digestion, and make you vomit. Plus your perfomance will worsen. The truth is that for running, it is better to be closer to an empty stomach, than to a full stomach. It is still an individual thing, and people should find out for themselves how they perform better.

Example: "Lifting weights DOES help, but polymetrics ARE better."
Again, you're confusing the issue, not clearing anything up. The weightlifting is necessary to build up a strength base for the plyometrics to make any sense. The higher your max strength is, the bigger potential for developing explosiveness through plyometrics. This is such a HUGE area, boiling it down to one-liners is detrimental to understanding.

Please stop the one-liner HELL that is what most people here pass off as training knowledge and insight. :p

Sir Fancylot
08-05-2005, 11:45 AM
Not meaning to sound harsh, but you're not clearing up any urban legends. You're oversimplifying things, which will cause people to misunderstand certain issues. Things aren't black and white.

Example: "Running on an empty stomach is not beneficial." You're giving people the impression they should eat before they run. The only thing that will do, is upset your digestion, and make you vomit. Plus your perfomance will worsen. The truth is that for running, it is better to be closer to an empty stomach, than to a full stomach. It is still an individual thing, and people should find out for themselves how they perform better.

Example: "Lifting weights DOES help, but polymetrics ARE better."
Again, you're confusing the issue, not clearing anything up. The weightlifting is necessary to build up a strength base for the plyometrics to make any sense. The higher your max strength is, the bigger potential for developing explosiveness through plyometrics. This is such a HUGE area, boiling it down to one-liners is detrimental to understanding.

Please stop the one-liner HELL that is what most people here pass off as training knowledge and insight. :p

Haha, point taken man.

I'll edit and elaborate on the points

Sir Fancylot
08-05-2005, 11:54 AM
Okay, the post is edited and I'm sure it will be slightly more beneficial now.

Sir Fancylot
08-05-2005, 11:55 AM
and why does everyone suddenly believe him? when he has no proof that anything he thinks is correct? you guys are like lambs


No offence mate but judging by some of the posts you have made in this section you're on of the people who needed clearing up on issues.

Dyl-G
08-05-2005, 05:15 PM
i dont think so bro, everything i post i post by expirience so, some of the **** you are saying isnt true and i know for a fact... when i run on an empty stomach, i can see the results twice as much the next day, i have actually expirimented and ate then ran 20 min later, and the results from when i ran on an empty stomach were obviously better. on top of that, if you look at any pro's training schedule they all wake up and run on empty stomachs then come home and eat or sleep....

Tha Greatest
08-05-2005, 05:20 PM
i dont think so bro, everything i post i post by expirience so, some of the **** you are saying isnt true and i know for a fact... when i run on an empty stomach, i can see the results twice as much the next day, i have actually expirimented and ate then ran 20 min later, and the results from when i ran on an empty stomach were obviously better. on top of that, if you look at any pro's training schedule they all wake up and run on empty stomachs then come home and eat or sleep....
Dyl G...

Weren't you one of those people who said they train in sauna suits and say it works like a charm??

Correct me if I'm wrong..

Sir Fancylot
08-05-2005, 05:23 PM
i dont think so bro, everything i post i post by expirience so, some of the **** you are saying isnt true and i know for a fact... when i run on an empty stomach, i can see the results twice as much the next day, i have actually expirimented and ate then ran 20 min later, and the results from when i ran on an empty stomach were obviously better. on top of that, if you look at any pro's training schedule they all wake up and run on empty stomachs then come home and eat or sleep....


Perhaps so, but when you eat later...it will be exactly the same result at the end of the day.

And for the record, everything I post is from experience, so lets not go there.

Tha Greatest
08-05-2005, 05:24 PM
Perhaps so, but when you eat later...it will be exactly the same result at the end of the day.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sir Fancylot
08-05-2005, 05:27 PM
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


its true though, it will feel like a better result because you will be empty and thus not feel bloated.

I can see where he is coming from but he's got it wrong.

boxer2k5
08-05-2005, 11:09 PM
just to add on

Fighting me is a losng battle no matter how much you trained
im the best end of story

adrsan84
08-07-2005, 05:48 PM
I took a diet and exercise class in school and our professor cited a study in which they found that the body burns more fat when your body has been fasting. They actually took a large group of people and did the study in a controlled environment. The study found that the best time to do cardio was 6 to 7 hours after your last meal, making early morning runs ideal for many people. The amount of calories burned depends on the effort made and therefore the calories expanded, but the types of calories burned tends to be more fat at around these times.

So you may burn the same amount of calories at either time but more will be from fat on an empty stomach, also you are able to perform better on an empty stomach usually due to the fact that your food is fully digested.

Dyl-G
08-07-2005, 06:12 PM
Dyl G...

Weren't you one of those people who said they train in sauna suits and say it works like a charm??

Correct me if I'm wrong..

yes, i am the one that said that, and it does work well, a lot better than when i run without it, if you want me to post pictures to prove i can

Dyl-G
08-07-2005, 06:15 PM
Perhaps so, but when you eat later...it will be exactly the same result at the end of the day.

And for the record, everything I post is from experience, so lets not go there.

alright, and thats why you run at the end of the day also, before you go to bed, you post from your expirience and you get different results i post from mine and i get different results, so maybe our bodys work differently i donno, but this is what works for me so leave it at that

Tha Greatest
08-08-2005, 04:18 AM
yes, i am the one that said that, and it does work well, a lot better than when i run without it, if you want me to post pictures to prove i can
That is VERY bad on your body...

.::EnRiQuE::.
08-08-2005, 04:29 AM
That is VERY bad on your body...
yea....you shouldn't do that unless you absolutely have to drop weight. its like cooking your body. and if you run in heat you can pass out when wearing that

Sir Fancylot
08-08-2005, 08:12 AM
alright, and thats why you run at the end of the day also, before you go to bed, you post from your expirience and you get different results i post from mine and i get different results, so maybe our bodys work differently i donno, but this is what works for me so leave it at that


Okay man I'll agree with that, If you also run later in the day it would be beneficial of course.

And I was only discussing/disagreeing, it was never anything personal. :)

Dyl-G
08-08-2005, 03:01 PM
yea....you shouldn't do that unless you absolutely have to drop weight. its like cooking your body. and if you run in heat you can pass out when wearing that


look uh, ive ran with a full sauna suit sweat shirt and sweat pants for 2 miles.....never felt like passing out, never felt dehydrated... i can tell when i need to stop, the only feeling it gives me is sweat. on top of that the affects of heat on THE INSIDE of your body doesnt start until 42 C which is central nervous system breakdown and then at 44 degrees when you die.
the core of the human body keeps the temperature down, and seeing that an average marathon runner's core temperature goes up to 40-41 C the sauna suit undoubtly gets nowhere near that, and the lethal limit of dehydration would have to be 15-25% weight loss, when i run i weigh before and i only come back about a half pound lighter than when my initial weight, so if i were to lose 25% of my weight id have to lose 32 pounds in a single run at the most thats equal to 14.5 liters of sweat... for me to lose 14.5 liters, id have to be running for about 3 1/2 hours to lose that much weight since the body sweats up to four liters per hour for short periods of time.

Dyl-G
08-08-2005, 03:02 PM
Okay man I'll agree with that, If you also run later in the day it would be beneficial of course.

And I was only discussing/disagreeing, it was never anything personal. :)


yeah dude its cool, your avatar is tight, i remember seeing that live.