PACMAN KO's 3K-Battery in RD 4 [Archive]

JaNnO

12-11-2004, 11:22 AM

Okey guys, here is the interview by DZBB radio in Manila with Manny Pacquiao after his 4th-round TKO win over Fahsan 3K-Battery of Thailand. I wrote this down and translated in English.
This was from live-feed over the net this morning.

DZBB: Manny, I want to congratulate you on your win tonight against 3K Battery.

Manny: First of all I want to thank God Almighty, my family, the president (Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo), the fans, and all the people who supported me in this fight. I am dedicating my win in honor of our country. All Filipinos won this fight. Let us all raise the Filipino flag to show how happy and honored we are for our victory.

I also want to greet everyone a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

DZBB: Did you struggle in this fight?

Manny: No, I didn’t. I was in great shape and relaxed the whole fight. I have never felt so confident. Our plan was to KO him and that was I wanted to do. During the fight, I was really anxious to use both of my hands especially during the 4th round where I ko’ed him.

DZBB: You used some new weapon in this fight, something that we didn’t see in your previous fights.

Manny: Yes that left uppercut that finished him off was a new weapon. I actually threw some right cross but a few of them missed. I couldn’t floor him with it. I threw combinations of right jobs, right hooks, right crosses, and left uppercuts. I surprised him with my left uppercuts.

DZBB: What can you say about the fourth round?

Manny: I really wanted to knock him with my right hand, especially by the right hooks but I missed him many times. I knew I startled him. I tried to use my right hand more but he was able to defend well. We were throwing punches at the same time and some of my punches landed on his gloves. I don’t want the fight to go to distance so I tried hitting him with my left, and it was the two uppercuts that did the job.

DZBB: I saw that you he hit you with a right hook. Were you hurt?

Manny: Yes he did but I wasn’t hurt. I tried to throw good combinations at him but hit his gloves from his counters instead.

DZBB: I want to thank you for donating some of your hard-earned money to calamity victims and I say that it was generous and good of you to lend a helping hand during a time like this. What motivated you to do that?

Manny: In all my fights, these people always pray for my success, now it’s my time to turn the favor back.

DZBB: You next fight is against Marquez in February, I’m concerned that you might lay low from your training after your win tonight especially that Christmas is coming.

Manny: No, there’s no let up in my training and I will make sure that I will train harder even during the holidays up to February. This is an important fight for me and I will be in excellent condition. I’m coming and they better be prepared.

DZBB: Do you think Fahsan is still a Filipino Destroyer after tonight?

Manny: (Laughing) No I think, it’s over for him. That title doesn’t suit him anymore.

DZBB: Any plans from here on:

Manny: I will fly to LA in January to continue my training for the Marquez fight in February 26.

DZBB: Manny, thanks for your time ang congratulations once again.

Manny: I want to thank again everybody who helped me win tonight, especially God, my family, the president and all the fans. Thank you and Merry Christmas.

MetalVomit

12-11-2004, 11:27 AM

For sure :D Uppercuts are like loaded shotguns. Ohh man I have to see this fight. 4th round TKO of a guy who's never been knocked out. Sweet.

dude, where did you get that avatar? her waste is as thin as my wrist. that is amazing.

MlLkMan

12-11-2004, 11:28 AM

evosbm

12-11-2004, 11:31 AM

*the real test his jmm
yeah! coz 3K Battery is just a tune up fight. but Pac did showed his new and powerful weapon that they will use against jmm. that thing that ended 3K Battery was the so called "1-0-5", Pac's new weapon aside from the well developed right hand power hooks, jabs and uppercuts. man, those new weapons are tailor made for jmm! if jmm fails to do somethin' against it, he'll find himself to kingdomecome... :D

m00ks

12-11-2004, 11:33 AM

dude, where did you get that avatar? her waste is as thin as my wrist. that is amazing.

lounge...thread called move over vida new ass or some thing like that...she IS fine

m00ks

12-11-2004, 11:35 AM

yeah! coz 3K Battery is just a tune up fight. but Pac did showed his new and powerful weapon that they will use against jmm. that thing that ended 3K Battery was the so called "1-0-5", Pac's new weapon aside from the well developed right hand power hooks, jabs and uppercuts. man, those new weapons are tailor made for jmm! if jmm fails to do somethin' against it, he'll find himself to kingdomecome... :D

whats a 1-0-5

grayfist

12-11-2004, 11:36 AM

JaNnO

12-11-2004, 11:39 AM

props janno

yeah thanks, that's for all you boxing fans out there!

JaNnO

12-11-2004, 11:49 AM

grayfist

12-11-2004, 11:52 AM

Just got a call from a friend in Manila, who claimed to have shelled out 10,500 pesos for a "Patron" seat. He said, Fahsan was down IN EVERY ROUND EXCEPT THE FIRST! He told me, Pac floored Fahsan once in the second, once in the third (right at the bell but was given the mandatory count, because IBF rules for "eliminators" were in effect) and twice in the fourth. He said, the first KD (in the second round) was from two quick rights to Fahsan's forehead! RIGHTS?! :eek:

Those fight ending-power displays, however, were left uppercuts, he added. But they were set up by right-hook feints of which Fahsan has had a few! So Fahsan was trying to defend for right hooks when the left uppercuts got him! :D

WOW!!! An even better Pac?!!! :D

JaNnO

12-11-2004, 11:59 AM

grayfist

12-11-2004, 12:00 PM

Some flips were saying that fahsan went down 6 times but it wasn't confirmed. they said manny was surprised that fahsan literally went up the air from the left uppercut that finished the thai.

wow...that's power! :) The story I got from the phone coversation was that Fahsan went down 4 times. But, right, he was lifted (reportedly) off his feet with a left uppercut in the 3rd KD (4th round). A FOOT HIGH, twas said! It's a Marvel that he got up from that! (But only to fall again such seconds later from a duplicate copy of that first left uppercut!) :D

tha

12-11-2004, 12:01 PM

The telecast of the Pacquiao vs 3K is horrible. It's a shame the citizens in the Philippines could only watch the match
1 hour and 30 minutes delayed considering the fight was staged at the National Capital Region. It's like watching a marathon of commercials and you can only have a short break by watching 1 round then back to another tele-series of commercials.

The Hopkins vs Dela Hoya bout, and the Morales-Barrera match that happened in USA was also telecast in Philippines but it was only delayed by 5 rounds or 30 minutes. Poor Filipino fans, at the mercy of Solar Sports Channel, the official broadcaster of the fight.

Mr. Violence

12-11-2004, 12:02 PM

Congratulations To Pacman---A job well done!

grayfist

12-11-2004, 12:03 PM

did he mention how manny spectators waatched the fight in the fort. the last time i heard it was close to 40k. awesome support from pac's countrymen! :)Right about the same figure, pal. He said around 40-50K! :) Awesome indeed!

JaNnO

12-11-2004, 12:04 PM

Here's the news from a Manila daily

Pacquiao defeats Thai foe in Taguig
By INQ7.net Breaking News, INQ7.net, 12 Dec 2004

TRUE to his word, Manny Pacquiao, hit hard; and it didn¹t take long for Fahsan 3K Battery to realize it was a lost cause. Television footage showed Pacquiao floored Fahsan with a deadly combination of punches, climaxing with a hard right that led to a knockout victory in the fourth round of their fight last night.

Heres the link...
http://news.inq7.net/breaking/index.php?index=6&story_id=20962

JOM'S

12-11-2004, 12:06 PM

guys here's hottest news....

Pacquiao devastates Thai in 4 rounds

Updated 00:03am (Mla time) Dec 12, 2004
By Recah Trinidad
Inquirer News Service

MANNY Pacquiao crushed his ambitious Thai foe with thundering combinations to score a merciless fourth-round knockout that touched off a wild celebration at The Fort in Taguig City Saturday night.
A crowd estimated at 25,000 roared in approval and awe as Fahsan 3K Battery landed hard on his back after taking an ax-like left uppercut to the jaw. It was the Thai's first knockout defeat in 53 fights.

The stoppage was so complete that referee Ferdinand Estrella did not bother to count as Fahsan lay senseless on the canvas while fireworks lit the overcast skies around the fight venue.

Keeping his vow to fight toe-to-toe, Fahsan sneaked in a few stiff right punches, but Pacquiao was far too superior for the visitor, who stayed on the floor for nearly two minutes before being helped back to his corner.

"Pacquiao was just too fast," Fahsan told the Inquirer through his manager, who himself appeared stunned at the quick stoppage.

Pacquiao started out tight and failed to pin down his elusive, bobbing foe in the first round.

But there was no doubting the brutal outcome after Pacquiao floored Fahsan with an overhand left midway in the second round before scoring another knockdown at the end of the third.

Pacquiao then chased Fahsan all over the ring in the fourth, downed him with an uppercut, paused for a while, before going all out and scoring the paralyzing blow for the knockout at one minute 26 seconds of the round.

Pacquiao dedicated the victory to the flood victims in Quezon and now looks forward to his rematch against Juan Manuel Marquez on Feb. 26.

Super flyweight sensation Z Gorres scored an impressive 10-round decision over Fahsan's countryman Chaiyong Distar to confirm his billing as the next Filipino boxing star.

But it was Filipino lightweight champion Ferdinand Montilla who set the tone for the final bout by stopping Rey Almonicar in 47 seconds of the first round to keep his crown.

Contrary to advance reports, President Gloria Macapacal-Arroyo did not grace the star-studded event that drew a host of celebrities and top political figures, including Representative Mikey Arroyo who got roundly booed on the two occasions his presence was announced.

Pacquiao is being packaged for multi-million dollar fights against the world top featherweights, like Erik Morales and Marco Antonio Barrera, next year.

The Fahsan fight was specifically a tune-up match for Pacquiao's scheduled rematch against Juan Manuel Marquez on Feb. 26.

A Pacquiao fall could've caused widespread national despair.

No fighter since the great Flash Elorde has stolen the fancy of his countrymen like Pacquiao, the flamboyant, power-punching former construction worker, now the source of pride and symbol of hope by the poor masses all over the country.

It was the best-attended fight, held on a vast field in the former military camp in Taguig, since Luisito Espinosa successfully defended his world featherweight crown and drew nearly 300,000 fans at the Rizal Park in 1996.

It was only Pacquiao's second fight this year, after he figured in a controversial draw while trying to wrest the IBF/WBA featherweight crowns of the durable Juan Manuel Marquez in Las Vegas last May.

Fahsan helped sell the fight by claiming he knew of a hidden spot, a soft, vulnerable portion of Pacquiao's anatomy which the Thai vowed to rip by coming out fighting.

He said he would go toe-to-toe against Pacquiao right at the first bell.

"If he does that, he would walk straight into a wall, Manny is just too superior," predicted Pacquiao's Puerto Rican cut man, Lenny de Jesus. The famous cornerman also clarified that he started working for Pacquiao only last year against Emmanuel Lucero, and not in the fight against Lehlo Ledwabah in 2001.

The Thai camp had also claimed Pacquiao, who was able to train thoroughly for less than a month, was not at peak form for last night's big fight.

Fahsan Nahrongrit Phirang, son of poor farmers from Ubon Rathani in northern Thailand, adopted the ring name Fahsan 3K Battery with a dream of coming home to a tumultuous welcome in Bangkok, where he said Pacquiao, ranked by Thais as the greatest featherweight fighter in the world today, is regarded as a hero.

Fahsan was to earn 1.7 million pesos for agreeing to fight Pacquiao.

As added reward to his 17-million-peso purse, Pacquiao, who turns 26 on Dec. 17, gets a holiday break, although his trainer, Freddie Roach, gave strict orders for him to report back to the Wild Card Boxing Club in Hollywood first week of January to train for his scheduled rematch against Marquez on Feb. 26.

The Thai dreamer was wild as long shots come in a brutal, unforgiving sport like boxing.

But his chief handler, Jimmy Chachtochuang, said it was unkind to rank his fighter a necessary nuisance.

"Just look [at] what happened to Roy Jones," the Thai manager said, "nobody believed he could ever lose to Antonio Tarver."

He announced Fahsan did not come to Manila just to lose.

He said his fighter, who had never been knocked out in 52 pro fights, worked very, very hard with the goal of scoring a sensational upset equal to what Pacquiao had done when he stopped Marco Antonio Barrera last year in Texas.

Fahsan repeated his vow to win by knockout on the eve of the big bout.

Pacquiao, saying he has added a vicious right punch to his artillery, said he would just do his best for his countrymen, mainly the flood victims for whom he initially donated 200,000 pesos.

Originally posted at 11:15 PM, Updated at 11:38 PM

JOM'S

12-11-2004, 12:07 PM

ooppps janno beat me at the draw, he he he...

grayfist

12-11-2004, 12:08 PM

evosbm

12-11-2004, 12:09 PM

whats a 1-0-5
Pac did not explained it further but he did said that that finishing combo is what he and Roach called "1-0-5". the way i saw the finishing combination, its like a right hook followed by a quick powerful uppercut. that uppercut reminds me how jmm ko'ed licona. only Pac didn't realy put much effort in that uppercut while jmm needed to use his full body swing to drop licona.

if jmm was able to escape from manny's left straight after the first round of their encounter, he will surely have a big problem on pac's new artillery coz manny is already making a good use over his right.

tha

12-11-2004, 12:09 PM

Oh, I also remembered. During the Barrera-Pacquao and Pacquiao-Marquez fight the telecast here in the Philippines was 4 hours delayed (there was a LIVE tag at the TV screen). They showed an average of 1 round every 15 minutes of commercials. Funny, everytime a Filipino fighter had a major bout, they tend to abuse and exaggerate sponsorship. Surely, Solar Sports gets richer at the expense of making Filipinos like fools. What a shame to the other countries.

JaNnO

12-11-2004, 12:12 PM

here's the undercard results

Z "The Dream" Gorres 10-rd decision over Chaiyong Distar
Ferdinand Montilla KO-1 over Rev Almonicar

MlLkMan

12-11-2004, 12:13 PM

here's the undercard results

Z "The Dream" Gorres 10-rd decision over Chaiyong Distar
Ferdinand Montilla KO-1 over Rev Almonicar

Gorres needs more power.

JaNnO

12-11-2004, 12:14 PM

ooppps janno beat me at the draw, he he he...

oks lang tsong..were only happy to spread pac's victory around...he-he-he :)

ELPacman

12-11-2004, 12:15 PM

This is all true, more at http://mannypacquiao.ph Web articles and if it's not already posted big enough on the site about the KO :)

Mr. Violence

12-11-2004, 12:17 PM

I bet that little ***** wont be calling himself "the destroyer of Fillipinos" anymore- Congratulaions Pacman for knocking his ass out.

grayfist

12-11-2004, 01:05 PM

:D SHOWS US WHATA GOOD PAIR OF SOCKS on Pac's feet can do! ;) :D

Hurlex

12-11-2004, 01:27 PM

Mr. Violence

12-11-2004, 01:31 PM

i am glad manny won...now its time for JMM...ahh..good times...i dont know if this fight is a ppv tho...i dont think so right...i dont think it can carry a ppv on its own...but maybe-who's knows?(shrugs)...anyway its gonna be good,....i like them both but i am rooting for JMM a lil more...i like pac (but he talks to much sh*t sometimes)-he's cool tho

in my humble opinion i think it could do pretty good ppv. think about it, there will be the mexican and fillipino communities ordering the fight, not to mention the interest of this fight in the other parts of the world.

JaNnO

12-11-2004, 01:34 PM

hey goes, just gone to pacland and the video of last night's fight is now available in boxing torrents. unfortunately, i haven't signed for that and they're not accepting any member for now, but in case anyone of you is already a member, you can prolly get the video. btw: i hope you can post the fight here or somewhere elase where it's gonna be available.

here is the link to that post...
http://mannypacquiao.ph/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8457&sid=15

jpboxer3

12-11-2004, 02:21 PM

Pacman Knocking out Fahsan 3k Battery

http://www.boxingscene.com/media/data/518/8902KOa01.gif

:eek:

JaNnO

12-11-2004, 02:24 PM

Pacman Knocking out Fahsan 3k Battery

http://www.boxingscene.com/media/data/518/8902KOa01.gif

:eek:

wow...that was a wicked uppercut. fahsan looked like a fallen timber! :eek:

Hurlex

12-11-2004, 02:45 PM

noidph

12-11-2004, 02:59 PM

Pac did not explained it further but he did said that that finishing combo is what he and Roach called "1-0-5". the way i saw the finishing combination, its like a right hook followed by a quick powerful uppercut. that uppercut reminds me how jmm ko'ed licona. only Pac didn't realy put much effort in that uppercut while jmm needed to use his full body swing to drop licona.

if jmm was able to escape from manny's left straight after the first round of their encounter, he will surely have a big problem on pac's new artillery coz manny is already making a good use over his right.

In the post-match interview with Manny on TV, the commentators noted how Manny's powerful uppercut was the outcome of Roach's teaching Manny to draw power from his feet then upwards to his upper body while he delivered his punches. Manny replied that it was what his trainer called 105. Asked what a 105 was, Manny replied that it was a MORTAR. :) Googled it, it's actually an M101 105 mm howitzer: http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m101.htm

:cool:

JaNnO

12-11-2004, 03:05 PM

In the post-match interview with Manny on TV, the commentators noted how Manny's powerful uppercut was the outcome of Roach's teaching Manny to draw power from his feet then upwards to his upper body while he delivered his punches. Manny replied that it was what his trainer called 105. Asked what a 105 was, Manny replied that it was a MORTAR. :) Googled it, it's actually an M101 105 mm howitzer: http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m101.htm

:cool:

good post, noidph...here's some good karma! :)

trephination

12-11-2004, 04:55 PM

Where can you see this fight?

tri4ben2

12-11-2004, 05:32 PM

Yeah,

Does anyone have a site that can host it for a day.

m00ks

12-11-2004, 05:51 PM

m00ks

12-11-2004, 06:03 PM

.::|ULTIMATE|::.

12-11-2004, 06:55 PM

Though im sure it has something to do with the level of his opposition. Manny looked incredibly open to the right hand in this fight. Even a little sloppin sometimes.

m00ks

12-11-2004, 07:04 PM

Though im sure it has something to do with the level of his opposition. Manny looked incredibly open to the right hand in this fight. Even a little sloppin sometimes.

Yo Ultimate where did you see the fight?

JaNnO

12-11-2004, 07:06 PM

Yo Ultimate where did you see the fight?

he probably saw the video clip of the ko punch that was posted earlier in this thread.

.::|ULTIMATE|::.

12-11-2004, 07:15 PM

Yo Ultimate where did you see the fight?
Whats up man, I downloaded it off the boxing torrent website. It went pretty fast too. I had it 3 hours after i clicked to download. The quality is a little bad though for as big a file as it is.

JaNnO

12-11-2004, 07:18 PM

Whats up man, I downloaded it off the boxing torrent website. It went pretty fast too. I had 3 hours after i clicked to download. The quality is a little bad though for as big a file as it is.

kewl man as i told you some pacman boys are blazin to share it with fellow boxing fans, any chance you can ask rick to post it here? i don't have any torrent pass and it's kinda full right now and are not accepting any new members.

.::|ULTIMATE|::.

12-11-2004, 07:31 PM

kewl man as i told you some pacman boys are blazin to share it with fellow boxing fans, any chance you can ask rick to post it here? i don't have any torrent pass and it's kinda full right now and are not accepting any new members.

Well let me know how to go about puting it up and i'll do my best to do so. Keep in mind i can only upload at 40 KBps meaning It would take about 3.75 hours from the moment i start uploading till its done.

psychopath

12-11-2004, 07:33 PM

i am glad manny won...now its time for JMM...ahh..good times...i dont know if this fight is a ppv tho...i dont think so right...i dont think it can carry a ppv on its own...but maybe-who's knows?(shrugs)...anyway its gonna be good,....i like them both but i am rooting for JMM a lil more...i like pac (but he talks to much sh*t sometimes)-he's cool tho

No Hurlex it's not Pac who talks **** . . . it his crazy fans and the press putting words into his mouth. The guy is always being misjudge and misunderstood. But Many is very down to Earth humble in his private life. ;)

Yup I can't wait for that JMM rematch now. PPV? I don't know but I'm sure hoping for it.

psychopath

12-11-2004, 07:39 PM

For our friends here who haven't seen the fight watch it . . . see how that SEMI UPPERCUT/SEMI LEFT HOOK lifted 3K's feet off the ground and fell like a tree with his head bouncing in the canvas.

TIMMMMMBBERRRRR!

MlLkMan

12-11-2004, 07:40 PM

ey pso_junior do you have the fight?

psychopath

12-11-2004, 07:45 PM

ey pso_junior do you have the fight?

No Bro . . . but that's going to be available in PAC's site as soon as the volume of posters subside. They temporarily disabled the video download section to lessen the load on the server and accomodate all the posters. Maybe 4 or 5 hours from now I can get it from there so I can share it with you guys. ;)

fist-of-fury

12-11-2004, 07:58 PM

After this bout, the 3M's should be cowering in fear! Expect all kinds of excuses to duck Pacman! :p

JaNnO

12-11-2004, 08:46 PM

Well let me know how to go about puting it up and i'll do my best to do so. Keep in mind i can only upload at 40 KBps meaning It would take about 3.75 hours from the moment i start uploading till its done.

if it was broken into 4 smaller files then you can upload it in the gallery section, or you can send them to us thru e-mail if they happen to be less than 250k each. but i know it's a hassle. kazaa, morpheus or soulseek is an alternative too.

if it's too much work for you, don't bother...thanks for your offer anyway!

JaNnO

12-11-2004, 08:57 PM

I like this news article on the same topic...

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Yanig sa (Tremor in) Taguig - Pacquiao stops Thai is 4th round
By Epifanio M. Almeda (At Ringside)- December 11, 2004

Ring Magazine and People's Featherweight champion Manny "Pac-Man" Pacquiao outclassed Fahsang 3K Battery knocking him down in the 2nd , 3rd and early in the 4th rounds before unleashing a right hook and left uppercut to the chin combination which finally felled Fahsang flat on his back. Referee Ferdie Estrella did not bother to count waiving the fight over at 1;26 of the round as Fashang lay helpless on the canvas.

more...
http://ringsidereport.com/Alemeda_12112004.htm

INFAMOUZ

12-11-2004, 08:57 PM

Good Win For Manny Now His Focusing The Rematch Againgst Jjm

grayfist

12-11-2004, 09:30 PM

that is wicked...but i dont think that uppercut will work with someone with JMM ability...manny has to learn to use both hands to beat JMM which i dont knwo if he will...if he does that uppercut JMM will step into it and turn to counter punch it with a left like he always does..but yeah i know...manny has different styles for each boxer he fights (or atleast i think)In my humble opinion, that left uppercut is made to order for Marquez's looping right counter. That can sneak underneath. If it gets to Marquez's chin as Marquez is countering, the impact (two moving objects clashing, i.e., JMM moving in to land his counter as Pac sneaks in the uppercut) means, good night folks!

As I saw it, Fahsan was looking for the right hooks, of which he has had some earlier in the fight, when Manny feinted with the right then put in the left beneath Fahsan's winging right counter.

Fahsan's hand speed is of course nowhere near that of JMM. Manny has to land that upper before Marquez's counter gets to him. Both Manny and JMM have among the best hand-speeds in the bizniz. T'would be awesome to watch!

Manny's newly installed stiff jabs should also be a big factor in February. Stiff jabs discourage counters and they can be lethal facials! ;)

grayfist

12-11-2004, 09:44 PM

No Hurlex it's not Pac who talks **** . . . it his crazy fans and the press putting words into his mouth. The guy is always being misjudge and misunderstood. But Many is very down to Earth humble in his private life. ;)

Yup I can't wait for that JMM rematch now. PPV? I don't know but I'm sure hoping for it.I read somewhere that Murad managed to pencil in a PPV date with HBO for the Pac-JMM Feb 26 date (Proviso: Manny's performance vs. Fahsan would be decisive; it turned out that it was!). Murad himself was quoted in that report (though I can't remember where that is in the net. Could be **********.)

If that's true, Pacfans can claim that it's Manny who will be the selling point for PPV; JMM's last performance does not warrant his being made the main lure. ;)

If Pac-JMM gets 350,000 buys, then even if Manny faces an Injin Chi for a unification bout post-Marquez (IF he wins vs. JMM in a compelling mananer), such will still be viewed by HBO suits as one with PPV possibilities. ;)

Morales-Barrera fights were in that vicinity in terms of PPV buys, as I can recall. ;)

grayfist

12-11-2004, 09:53 PM

wow...that was a wicked uppercut. fahsan looked like a fallen timber! :eek:Purrrrfect execution!!! :D Notice the stance? The fluid body motion? The pivot? TRAINING MODEL!!! :D

Hudson_Hawk

12-11-2004, 09:54 PM

In my humble opinion, that left uppercut is made to order for Marquez's looping right counter. That can sneak underneath. If it gets to Marquez's chin as Marquez is countering, the impact (two moving objects clashing, i.e., JMM moving in to land his counter as Pac sneaks in the uppercut) means, good night folks!

As I saw it, Fahsan was looking for the right hooks, of which he has had some earlier in the fight, when Manny feinted with the right then put in the left beneath Fahsan's winging right counter.

Fahsan's hand speed is of course nowhere near that of JMM. Manny has to land that upper before Marquez's counter gets to him. Both Manny and JMM have among the best hand-speeds in the bizniz. T'would be awesome to watch!

Manny's newly installed stiff jabs should also be a big factor in February. Stiff jabs discourage counters and they can be lethal facials! ;)

You always have those technical analysis and I like that. :D Very true I'm looking at it the same way . . . those left uppercuts and stiff popping jabs will give JMM problem in executing his counter punches. . . the right hooks and uppercuts included.

grayfist

12-11-2004, 09:58 PM

You always have those technical analysis and I like that. :D Very true I'm looking at it the same way . . . those left uppercuts and stiff popping jabs will give JMM problem in executing his counter punches. . . the right hooks and uppercuts included.Thanks, buddy! I try! :o ;) :)

muay

12-12-2004, 02:47 AM

Congratulations to the PacMan!

FightFan214

12-12-2004, 03:24 AM

dude, where did you get that avatar? her waste is as thin as my wrist. that is amazing.

Why are you looking at her waist, my eyes cant seem to stay of her ass!!

Chups

12-12-2004, 04:12 AM

Congrats Pacman.....JMM next!! :)

JOM'S

12-12-2004, 04:23 AM

Congrats Pacman.....JMM next!! :)

i heard pac will continue light training without letup, then have a holiday break then early january 2005 go back to roach's gym for full time training...

I cant wait for the rematch, i wish it is February already.... :)

THRILLAinmanila

12-12-2004, 04:23 AM

It's official -- Manny KO'ed 3K-Battery of Thailand in round 4.

3K went down in Round 2 (overhand left), Round 3( right straight) and Round 4 twice (left uppercuts) from Manny Pacquiao in their non-title fight last night (Dec. 11) at The Fort in Taguig Metro Manila.

Pac just rightfully avenged the 20 Filipinos Fahsan disposed off before ;) It was the 1st KO of Fahsan's 52-fight career, and Pac couldn't have done it better :p

JOM'S

12-12-2004, 06:26 AM

i been trying to upload round 4 of the fight but my connection always fail me, but like you guys to look at this uppercut.. :)

http://members.shaw.ca/Burgz/Pics/pacman.gif

Casey

12-12-2004, 06:42 AM

Who should Manny fight now. I think he should fight Marquez then get in with Barrera again

JOM'S

12-12-2004, 06:46 AM

Who should Manny fight now. I think he should fight Marquez then get in with Barrera again

I think JMM is a done deal for February, settle the score first with JMM ...

then after, either EM or MAB ... :)

see this uppercut!!!
http://members.shaw.ca/Burgz/Pics/pacman.gif

Chups

12-12-2004, 11:46 AM

After JMM, I really prefer EM 1st then MAB. One by one guys they will fall. :D :D

JOM'S

12-12-2004, 12:27 PM

guys if you missed this at the download section posted by michael selway for the pac-3k fight...

http://mpss.us/wmaster/PFround1.mpg
http://mpss.us/wmaster/PFround2.mpg
http://mpss.us/wmaster/PFround3.mpg
http://mpss.us/wmaster/PFround4.mpg

JaNnO

12-12-2004, 12:44 PM

grayfist

12-12-2004, 12:50 PM

JaNnO

12-12-2004, 02:56 PM

Just watched the match today. I say that Fahsan was no match against Pacman. He is just not on the level the Pacman is at. I'm not saying he was a patsy coz the guy showed a heart of a warrior just fighting one of the fiercest and feared featherweights in the world (just ask JMM after the fight) and MAB even know :). The Thai was not a pushover and had good body movements and was able to tagged Manny a few times in the fight. He just cannot match MAnny's dominance, confidence, power, speed and boxing abilities.

I noticed that Manny was flatfooted in the first round and was trying more to use his right hand. He threw pretty good right jabs, right hooks and a few good body shots. I'm glad that he was able to execute his new weapons especially the right hook although it was the left uppervuts that proved to be lethal. I think Freddie needs to polish it a little bit more (I suggest tying his left hand during a sparring session :)) I noticed that his right jabs had more power in them and gave a more varied combinations from any angles. Even the overhand left produced the first legit KD in round 2. His left hand was still definitely fast and deadly. I didn't see a lot of bobbing and weaving but I guess it's because he had figured Fahsan early and confident that the Thai couldn't hurt him. I think he was in a tip-top condition so was Fahsan. Both of the last left uppercut was perfectly executed and as some posters said was a good antidote for the counter-punching JMM who likes to duck when throwing his right.

I was glad to see a heavily conditioned and a more complete fighter-boxer in Manny last night. Congratulations to him on his win last night. I also give props to Fahsan for giving everything he had including getting up from the 3 earlier KD's.

psychopath

12-12-2004, 08:37 PM

THRILLAinmanila

12-12-2004, 08:42 PM

JaNnO

12-12-2004, 08:46 PM

That's right Pare Fashan was no push over . . . he just can't match Pac's foot speed. hands speed and power. . . he was totally outclassed. But any fighter who is not in the level of MAB, JMM or Morales will look exactly the same against Pac. Pac did that to MAB when they met before reason why a lot of talks about MAB being a washed out fighter . . . but did you see MAB perform against Eric? :D Pac's dominance inside that ring is simply awesome. Now let's see how JMM will react to a 100% Pac.

Let's get it ON!

Freddie was right on the target that what matters most in a boxing match is the boxer's mental state (assuming everything is equal e.g. boxing abilities, physical attributes, etc). MAB defeated Erik because he was the hungrier and the one who wanted to win more. Pac won against MAB not only because he was the hungrier fighter between the two but because he totally outclassed the man. He wasn't prepared for what Pacman would bring that night and it cost him the fight. I also believe that style makes fight and Pac has MAB's number. Even a compubox fight simulation considered Manny to win more than 80% of all future matches.

JaNnO

12-12-2004, 08:47 PM

What do you guys think of Pac's chances against JMM this February? What does he need to do to win this fight?

psychopath

12-12-2004, 09:31 PM

What do you guys think of Pac's chances against JMM this February? What does he need to do to win this fight?

What does he need to do? :D Pac is a fast learner . . . he already figured out how JMM fights so I'm confident that he and Roach will devise a plan to take out JMM as early as possible. JMM becomes more dangerous as the fights goes on so just like before I would assume that Pac will go in there will both hand blazing. JMM cannot change style anymore he will for ever be a counter puncher. . . change of punches combination maybe but nothing more than that.

Pac has a very good chance . . . a better chance than the first fight to finish off JMM. :D

itsbusdriver

12-12-2004, 10:46 PM

pac needs to fight smart.. he needs to utilize his jab more and swarm JMM.. if Pac is going to fight like he did during the first fight... i would have to go with JMM counter punching style.. but like people mentioned.. Freddie Roach is a master trainer and im sure he has worked on Pacs flaws... so as of right now.. IMO its a 50-50 match up.. i cant wait till February...

To be honest.. i think Team Pac should go with the bigger money fights first.. i understand that he has unfinished business with JMM but lets assume he loses to JMM, that would deminish the chances for Pac fight Morales.. and Pac would definitly get a huge pay cut if he squares off against MAB coming off a lose..

JaNnO

12-12-2004, 11:00 PM

What does he need to do? :D Pac is a fast learner . . . he already figured out how JMM fights so I'm confident that he and Roach will devise a plan to take out JMM as early as possible. JMM becomes more dangerous as the fights goes on so just like before I would assume that Pac will go in there will both hand blazing. JMM cannot change style anymore he will for ever be a counter puncher. . . change of punches combination maybe but nothing more than that.

Pac has a very good chance . . . a better chance than the first fight to finish off JMM. :D

This is what I think Pac needs to do to win:

(1) First, Manny has to be there 100% he cannot afford to fight a conditioning freak like jmm. jmm wears and tears his opponent and then go for the kill. a 100% pac has already won 50% of the game imho. This means no more late-night pools for Manny and no more endorsements and filming for the mean time. He has to start training and hook up with Freddie as soon as the holidays are over.

(2) Manny has to be aggressive, but it has to be a controlled agression. jmm is the best counter-ppuncher out there and he will surely capitalize on every mistake that manny makes, even on the smallest one. manny has to take the fight to jmm. jmm is ineffective when he is backing up so as most of the fighters today.

(3) Manny should have a good defense. no more of those wild punches that leave him open for jmm's counter. he has to watch for jmm's uppercuts. he has to realize that jmm's hands are also quick and one mistake will turn the tide against him. a good footwork and balance are necessary to maintain his fighting form and his feet should be tucked firmly to the canvass.

(4) Manny must have a solid plan. i envision the rematch to be a more technical game starting from the pre-fight skirmishes with carefully crafted words to send the right message to each other. the ability to get into an opponent's head to deminish his confidence, confuse, bluff or make him think otherwise has been a trademark of a superior fighter or warrior. team pac must learn how to deal with these tactics and antics and try to counter anything that comes their way. nacho had done an excellent job of doing this before the pac-jmm fight. team pac should do the same. In their first meeting during the fight, team pac did a lousy job of looking for an early knockdown thinking that jmm was ready to go down after the 3 kd;s in the first round. they figured wrong because jmm stood and fight and almost took the game away from the pacman. team pac should sit down and plan the best course of action. they have all the knowledge to devise the right plan due to the fact that jmm is a pure counter-puncher. he won't change the style that earned him his two belts. to add to that, you just can't teach an old dog new tricks and expect him to be effective. i'm not saying that team pac will make this as the one and only assumption. for one thing, assumption is the mother of all ****u-ups (as they say in i.t.) and any unfounded or unverified assumption is guaranteed to make you fail. team pac has to bring a plan that is realistic and dynamic enough to make room for changes if the situation warrants it. they have to map and simulate all courses of action and practice them as if they are going to happen. if they can do this, they will surely win without any doubt.

(5) Team Pac must capitalize on Manny's strenghts i.e. speed, power, and must always find the opportunity to impose these on Marquez. They have to send the message early in the fight that Manny means business and there is no way Manny is going to make the same mistake again of letting JMM take the fight away from him. They also need to exploit JMM's weaknesses (i.e. ducking when throwing a right cross, inability to start any contact). Manny needs to fake some shots, move from different angles, and use his speed to make JMM confused. Manny has to come in and let go of his lethal weapons just like what he did when he kd'd JMM the first time. Needless to say, team Pac should narrow the gap between his stregths and weaknesses. I know Roach has developed newer weapons in his arsenal and that's a good sign, but they still need to polish those. One key thing here is not get Manny confused during the fight and hesitate for a minute because JMM has a sense of a snake and I guarantee Pacman, JMM will devour him any opportunity he gets. This means, more training for Pacs when and how to use those new weapons.

(6) Last and foremost, no more of those cheap socks from now on! :D

grayfist

12-13-2004, 12:49 AM

This is what I think Pac needs to do to win:

(1) First, Manny has to be there 100% he cannot afford to fight a conditioning freak like jmm. jmm wears and tears his opponent and then go for the kill. a 100% pac has already won 50% of the game imho. This means no more late-night pools for Manny and no more endorsements and filming for the mean time. He has to start training and hook up with Freddie as soon as the holidays are over.

(2) Manny has to be aggressive, but it has to be a controlled agression. jmm is the best counter-ppuncher out there and he will surely capitalize on every mistake that manny makes, even on the smallest one. manny has to take the fight to jmm. jmm is ineffective when he is backing up so as most of the fighters today.

(3) Manny should have a good defense. no more of those wild punches that leave him open for jmm's counter. he has to watch for jmm's uppercuts. he has to realize that jmm's hands are also quick and one mistake will turn the tide against him. a good footwork and balance are necessary to maintain his fighting form and his feet should be tucked firmly to the canvass.

(4) Manny must have a solid plan. i envision the rematch to be a more technical game starting from the pre-fight skirmishes with carefully crafted words to send the right message to each other. the ability to get into an opponent's head to deminish his confidence, confuse, bluff or make him think otherwise has been a trademark of a superior fighter or warrior. team pac must learn how to deal with these tactics and antics and try to counter anything that comes their way. nacho had done an excellent job of doing this before the pac-jmm fight. team pac should do the same. In their first meeting during the fight, team pac did a lousy job of looking for an early knockdown thinking that jmm was ready to go down after the 3 kd;s in the first round. they figured wrong because jmm stood and fight and almost took the game away from the pacman. team pac should sit down and plan the best course of action. they have all the knowledge to devise the right plan due to the fact that jmm is a pure counter-puncher. he won't change the style that earned him his two belts. to add to that, you just can't teach an old dog new tricks and expect him to be effective. i'm not saying that team pac will make this as the one and only assumption. for one thing, assumption is the mother of all ****u-ups (as they say in i.t.) and any unfounded or unverified assumption is guaranteed to make you fail. team pac has to bring a plan that is realistic and dynamic enough to make room for changes if the situation warrants it. they have to map and simulate all courses of action and practice them as if they are going to happen. if they can do this, they will surely win without any doubt.

(5) Team Pac must capitalize on Manny's strenghts i.e. speed, power, and must always find the opportunity to impose these on Marquez. They have to send the message early in the fight that Manny means business and there is no way Manny is going to make the same mistake again of letting JMM take the fight away from him. They also need to exploit JMM's weaknesses (i.e. ducking when throwing a right cross, inability to start any contact). Manny needs to fake some shots, move from different angles, and use his speed to make JMM confused. Manny has to come in and let go of his lethal weapons just like what he did when he kd'd JMM the first time. Needless to say, team Pac should narrow the gap between his stregths and weaknesses. I know Roach has developed newer weapons in his arsenal and that's a good sign, but they still need to polish those. One key thing here is not get Manny confused during the fight and hesitate for a minute because JMM has a sense of a snake and I guarantee Pacman, JMM will devour him any opportunity he gets. This means, more training for Pacs when and how to use those new weapons.

(6) Last and foremost, no more of those cheap socks from now on! :DOn the nose, pal, as always!

As for the last one (number 6), God forbid! :D LOL!!!

THRILLAinmanila

12-13-2004, 12:51 AM

On the nose, pal, as always!

As for the last one (number 6), God forbid! :D LOL!!!

No worries on the socks. Darlington already got him as a sponsor . hahaha lol lol I still can't stop laughing at the commercial featuring Pac and his blister ... lol

JaNnO

12-13-2004, 12:55 AM

No worries on the socks. Darlington already got him as a sponsor . hahaha lol lol I still can't stop laughing at the commercial featuring Pac and his blister ... lol

do you have a vid-clip?

grayfist

12-13-2004, 12:56 AM

No worries on the socks. Darlington already got him as a sponsor . hahaha lol lol I still can't stop laughing at the commercial featuring Pac and his blister ... lolHeya, buddy! :D So, it's Darlington, eh? You mentioned that TV ad in another thread. I had a roll- on- the- isle type when I read it!!!LOL!!!

Here's to socks!!! :D What are we to do without them?!!! LOL!!!

JaNnO

12-13-2004, 12:58 AM

Heya, buddy! :D So, it's Darlington, eh? You mentioned that TV ad in another thread. I had a roll- on- the- isle type when I read it!!!LOL!!!

Here's to socks!!! :D What are we to do without them?!!! LOL!!!

walk with our hands!!! lol :D joke...joke...joke...LOL

JaNnO

12-13-2004, 01:04 AM

On the nose, pal, as always!

As for the last one (number 6), God forbid! :D LOL!!!

thanks, bro! just following your cue. :D

grayfist

12-13-2004, 01:08 AM

walk with our hands!!! lol :D joke...joke...joke...LOLHA! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! :D :D :D

THRILLAinmanila

12-13-2004, 01:12 AM

The ad goes something like this:...
"Pacquiao: Noong huling laban ko, nakalimutan ko mag-suot ng Darlington,
kaya ngayon, sisiguruhin ko ang panalo ko sa Darlington !"

hahaha lol

THRILLAinmanila

12-13-2004, 01:14 AM

The ad goes something like this:...
"Pacquiao: Noong huling laban ko, nakalimutan ko mag-suot ng Darlington,
kaya ngayon, sisiguruhin ko ang panalo ko sa Darlington !"

hahaha lol

Sorry. to translate this in English:

Pacquiao: "In my last fight, I forgot to wear Darlington (sock's brand name)." That's why I got blisters. Now I will make sure that I always wear Darlington socks" hahahaha lol :p

grayfist

12-13-2004, 01:16 AM

The ad goes something like this:...
"Pacquiao: Noong huling laban ko, nakalimutan ko mag-suot ng Darlington,
kaya ngayon, sisiguruhin ko ang panalo ko sa Darlington !"

hahaha lolWith the little Tagalog I've learned, I got the drift, pal! :D

Forget Freddie, forget roadwork...There's Darlington to take care of everything!!! :D LOL!!!

grayfist

12-13-2004, 01:17 AM

Sorry. to translate this in English:

Pacquiao: "In my last fight, I forgot to wear Darlington (sock's brand name)." That's why I got blisters. Now I will make sure that I always wear Darlington socks" hahahaha lol :p :D Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! :D

THRILLAinmanila

12-13-2004, 01:17 AM

With the little Tagalog I've learned, I got the drift, pal! :D

Forget Freddie, forget roadwork...There's Darlington to take care of everything!!! :D LOL!!!

grayfist I thought you were Pinoy ?

grayfist

12-13-2004, 01:23 AM

grayfist I thought you were Pinoy ?I truly wish I were, pal! :o I visit the country fairly often, though.Average of 5 to 8 times a year. Got lots of friends there! :)

Last time I and my wife visited, we got caught in the middle of two typhoons! Out in San Fabian, Pangasinan. Many Westerners don't know what a typhoon is. They have to meet one to know one! I've had my share...! :D LOL!!!

THRILLAinmanila

12-13-2004, 01:23 AM

I truly wish I were, pal! :o I visit the country fairly often, though.Average of 5 to 8 times a year. Got lots of friends there! :)

Last time I and my wife visited, we got caught in the middle of two typhoons! Out in San Fabian, Pangasinan. Many Westerners don't know what a typhoon is. They have to meet one to know one! I've had my share...! :D LOL!!!

wow. so where you from ? you an American ?

grayfist

12-13-2004, 01:27 AM

wow. so where you from ? you an American ?Yup. One of the "ugly" ones... ;) :o :D My wife and I. We've fallen in love with the country. We've been doing those visits for well over a decade now. We're planning to retire somewhere there. Hope the plan pans... :)

THRILLAinmanila

12-13-2004, 01:29 AM

Yup. One of the "ugly" ones... My wife and I. We've fallen in love with the country. We've been doing those visits for well over a decade now. We're planning to retire somewhere there. Hope the plan pans...

hey that's a cool plan :) Perhaps you can choose a beach front for your retirement ..that would be great ;)

JaNnO

12-13-2004, 01:31 AM

Yup. One of the "ugly" ones... ;) :o :D My wife and I. We've fallen in love with the country. We've been doing those visits for well over a decade now. We're planning to retire somewhere there. Hope the plan pans... :)

hey joe...thanks for visiting our country and choosing it as your home when you retire...i'm pretty sure you'll enjoy the hospitality of our people...filipinos are good natured and have positive outlook in life...hope to meet you someday...have you chosen a town to stay? if i may add..i think you're a fantastic guy!

THRILLAinmanila

12-13-2004, 01:32 AM

grayfist

12-13-2004, 01:34 AM

hey that's a cool plan :) Perhaps you can choose a beach front for your retirement ..that would be great ;)Exactly our thought, pal! You a mind-reacher? ;) LOL!!! We were guests at a resort owned by an American ex-pat in San Fabian called Lazy A. Boy! Didn't we turn green! Lovely place!

But we're looking at putting down stakes either in Pagudpod or Cebu. Cebu would be neat. They have lotsa boxing there, so I gathered! :D

JaNnO

12-13-2004, 01:36 AM

Exactly our thought, pal! You a mind-reacher? ;) LOL!!! We were guests at a resort owned by an American ex-pat in San Fabian called Lazy A. Boy! Didn't we turn green! Lovely place!

But we're looking at putting down stakes either in Pagudpod or Cebu. Cebu would be neat. They have lotsa boxing there, so I gathered! :D

good choice...i think cebu is better than manila...lotsa good beaches nearby, less traffic and pollution and far from the typhoon path.

grayfist

12-13-2004, 01:41 AM

hey joe...thanks for visiting our country and choosing it as your home when you retire...i'm pretty sure you'll enjoy the hospitality of our people...filipinos are good natured and have positive outlook in life...hope to meet you someday...have you chosen a town to stay? if i may add..i think you're a fantastic guy!THNKS LOTS!

You're as right as can be, pal! All the Filipinos we've met over the years are arguments in favor of our plan. And I'm sure you're one of them...so, I'm equally sure, is THRILLA...and the others I've come to meet on this site!

We're looking at Pagudpod and Cebu. But we're leaning towards Cebu, what with all that boxing that's been reportedly going on in there!

We're praying earnestly that we'd be able to make the move. But I still have a wee short of a decade to go before retirement. So has my wife. :(

But we're raring'! :D

grayfist

12-13-2004, 01:47 AM

good choice...i think cebu is better than manila...lotsa good beaches nearby, less traffic and pollution and far from the typhoon path.You got it, bud. Cost of living is less as well, though the standard is high. Our meager retirement dollars can go a long way there. ;)

And all the basic services and amenities are in place: world-class hospitals, hotels, resorts...That's Cebu. Pagudpod has a rustic lure, though. Pretty charming town! Equally charming is Bohol!

Oh well, just too many choices! I'm sure the missus and I will be able to make our minds up quickly when the time comes! :D That would be the easiest part! A choice between one part of paradise over another...! We'll have our cake and be eating it too! :D

THRILLAinmanila

12-13-2004, 01:54 AM

JaNnO

12-13-2004, 01:58 AM

You got it, bud. Cost of living is less as well, though the standard is high. Our meager retirement dollars can go a long way there. ;)

And all the basic services and amenities are in place: world-class hospitals, hotels, resorts...That's Cebu. Pagudpod has a rustic lure, though. Pretty charming town! Equally charming is Bohol!

Oh well, just too many choices! I'm sure the missus and I will be able to make our minds up quickly when the time comes! :D That would be the easiest part! A choice between one part of paradise over another...! We'll have our cake and be eating it too! :D

i hope i can do the same...i was asking my financial advisor if i can retire at 50...she said it was tough..but possible...i don't know if it's the wisest thing to do...but i'm getting bored here in the u.s...so i'm looking at going back to the philippines as early as possible. i hope i would be able to do it soon...i've already purchased a 10-hectare beach front property in quezon...it was nice but it was along the typhoon belt...planning to put up a resort for my retirement...want to farm when i retire.

THRILLAinmanila

12-13-2004, 01:59 AM

JaNnO

12-13-2004, 02:01 AM

10 hectares? Man you are a RICH DUDE !! :D

no, i wouldn't say that...just got it at a good price and i have to be really wise on my spendings here.

THRILLAinmanila

12-13-2004, 02:03 AM

no, i wouldn't say that...just got it at a good price and i have to be really wise on my spendings here.

Well that's good for you ! Good decision-making I should say. I hope I can say the same about our other kababayans who work in the US and spend their money here like there was no tomorrow.

JaNnO

12-13-2004, 02:05 AM

Well that's good for you ! Good decision-making I should say. I hope I can say the same about our other kababayans who work in the US and spend their money here like there was no tomorrow.

yup you're right...i know some pinoys here who change their suv every two years...i got a 7 year old car and quite happy with it. at least i don't have to pay for it forever.

grayfist

12-13-2004, 02:10 AM

i hope i can do the same...i was asking my financial advisor if i can retire at 50...she said it was tough..but possible...i don't know if it's the wisest thing to do...but i'm getting bored here in the u.s...so i'm looking at going back to the philippines as early as possible. i hope i would be able to do it soon...i've already purchased a 10-hectare beach front property in quezon...it was nice but it was along the typhoon belt...planning to put up a resort for my retirement...want to farm when i retire.A resort along the Quezon coastline? Neat! I've passed through there a couple of times. A 10-hectare beachfront property! Wow! I've asked around; that's not too easy to come by! Not at a low price! You lucky you! :D

Hope you get to do it pretty soon, buddy! If you do, you'll be able to do it well ahead of me! I'm still looking at 8 years towards 60. But we'll get into the real estate market, possibly, next year. If there's one in Cebu that we like, we might go and get it! We may have to go through some legal stuff about owning property there, though. We are aware of that.

You can do it a lot earlier because you've got the site fixed. :)

JaNnO

12-13-2004, 02:16 AM

A resort along the Quezon coastline? Neat! I've passed through there a couple of times. A 10-hectare beachfront property! Wow! I've asked around; that's not too easy to come by! Not at a low price! You lucky you! :D

Hope you get to do it pretty soon, buddy! If you do, you'll be able to do it well ahead of me! I'm still looking at 8 years towards 60. But we'll get into the real estate market, possibly, next year. If there's one in Cebu that we like, we might go and get it! We may have to go through some legal stuff about owning property there, though. We are aware of that.

You can do it a lot earlier because you've got the site fixed. :)

yes...got lucky on that one...got some relatives who helped me...after i bought it i got an offer the following day to sell it for 25% profit...i refused! i grew up in the area and i love the sea...i used to swim and surf along the pacific coast line almost everyday when i was in high school...nice surfing site!

grayfist

12-13-2004, 02:24 AM

yes...got lucky on that one...got some relatives who helped me...after i bought it i got an offer the following day to sell it for 25% profit...i refused! i grew up in the area and i love the sea...i used to swim and surf along the pacific coast line almost everyday when i was in high school...nice surfing site!Yes, surfing is coming up fast in the Philippines! While at San Fabian, we took some side trips to San Fernando in La Union (the days when the sun was out; pause between two typhoons ;) ). Surfing is alive and well in there! We were told in several conversations that the same is true in Southern Luzon...e.g., Quezon and some parts of the Bicol region. The even have surfing competitions, I was told! The last one was said to have been held in an island in Mindanao..I can't recall the name. :o

You got an offer the day after!!! Whew! What can I say?!

Your place can be one of those surfing hubs soon after you set it up!;

You're destiny's child, buddy! :)

THRILLAinmanila

12-13-2004, 02:28 AM

Yes, surfing is coming up fast in the Philippines! While at San Fabian, we took some side trips to San Fernando in La Union (the days when the sun was out; pause between two typhoons Surfing is alive and well in there! We were told in several conversations that the same is true in Southern Luzon...e.g., Quezon and some parts of the Bicol region. The even have surfing competitions, I was told! The last one was said to have been held in an island in Mindanao..I can't recall the name.

You got an offer the day after!!! Whew! What can I say?!

Your place can be one of those surfing hubs soon after you set it up!;

You're destiny's child, buddy! :)

The island in Mindanao is called Siargao island, the hottest surfing spot in the Phils ! A lot of intl surfers now go there :) See, the Phils is not just a place for good boxers ! :cool:

JaNnO

12-13-2004, 02:30 AM

Yes, surfing is coming up fast in the Philippines! While at San Fabian, we took some side trips to San Fernando in La Union (the days when the sun was out; pause between two typhoons ;) ). Surfing is alive and well in there! We were told in several conversations that the same is true in Southern Luzon...e.g., Quezon and some parts of the Bicol region. The even have surfing competitions, I was told! The last one was said to have been held in an island in Mindanao..I can't recall the name. :o

You got an offer the day after!!! Whew! What can I say?!

Your place can be one of those surfing hubs soon after you set it up!;

You're destiny's child, buddy! :)

i know that siargao in surigao (mindanao), la union (forgot the name of the town), catanduanes (bicol) and a small town in quezon where copolla filmed apocalypse now are great surfing spots in the philippines.

yup, the filipinos are catching up in that sports!

grayfist

12-13-2004, 02:34 AM

The island in Mindanao is called Siargao island, the hottest surfing spot in the Phils ! A lot of intl surfers now go there :) See, the Phils is not just a place for good boxers !Siargao, it is! Thanks, pal!

And you're right about the Philippines as well! :D

Catchya all later buddies! Gotta turn in...got an important one on my plate for tomorrow! ;) Good talking to y'all! :)

JaNnO

12-13-2004, 02:36 AM

Siargao, it is! Thanks, pal!

And you're right about the Philippines as well! :D

Catchya all later buddies! Gotta turn in...got an important one on my plate for tomorrow! ;) Good talking to y'all! :)

laterz grayfist...nice chatting with you...cheerz! :)

THRILLAinmanila

12-13-2004, 02:39 AM

JaNnO

12-13-2004, 02:45 AM

JaNnO

12-13-2004, 02:50 AM

Epie2

12-13-2004, 04:17 AM

I just hope the Pac-JMM II fight would push through. It would be a minus for boxing if the question as to who is the better fighter is left unanswered. If Pac goes up for the fight as fit as he was with MAB, I pick him to win by KO.

JOM'S

12-13-2004, 06:21 AM

no, i wouldn't say that...just got it at a good price and i have to be really wise on my spendings here.

you are still rich my friend not to many pinoys having 10 hecs of land... :)

around when you are coming back home, is it any time soon...

JOM'S

12-13-2004, 06:22 AM

grayfist

12-13-2004, 06:37 AM

I thought they already did in Pacman! :DPac: Typhoon incarnate!!! :D LOL!!!

I remember Luisito Espinosa was also called "Lindol!". Didn't know what that meant until somebody told me. EARTHQUAKE! And Luisito's punches were not even close to any of Pac's! :)

JaNnO

12-13-2004, 09:42 AM

you are still rich my friend not to many pinoys having 10 hecs of land... :)

around when you are coming back home, is it any time soon...

i saw you've already made pac's ko punch on fahsan as avatar of yours...kudos...i know a lot of pac boys are rarin to be the first one to do that including myself...he-he-he...no not rich but comfortable enough, i should say...i'm planning to go on vacation this march, hopefully for a month...as to going home for good...i want to hook up with my friend who has already settled back in manila and started his own i.t. consulting firm...if it pushes through and i will have a descent income back home...i will probably resettle in 3 years...i hope the economy gets better soon to have more business opportunities for us and everyone.

JaNnO

12-13-2004, 09:48 AM

Pac: Typhoon incarnate!!! :D LOL!!!

I remember Luisito Espinosa was also called "Lindol!". Didn't know what that meant until somebody told me. EARTHQUAKE! And Luisito's punches were not even close to any of Pac's! :)

yes sir luisito espinosa aka "lindol" or "the king" used to be a feared fighter in his primetime and is a two-time world champion. even hamed was ducking him...to bad he didn't have any good management...his decision to let his wife takeover his career proved to be a bad mistake...he's still here in the us.s. fighting in some small and never-heard-of matches just to keep his green card status...manny is surely luckier than him.

JOM'S

12-13-2004, 10:49 AM

i saw you've already made pac's ko punch on fahsan as avatar of yours...kudos...i know a lot of pac boys are rarin to be the first one to do that including myself...he-he-he...no not rich but comfortable enough, i should say...i'm planning to go on vacation this march, hopefully for a month...as to going for good...i want to hook up with my friend who has already settled back in manila who started his own i.t. consulting firm...if it pushes through and i will have a descent income back home...i will probably resettle in 3 years...i hope the economy gets better soon to have more business opportunities for us and everyone.

i just change my avatar back to Francine, it was a request from Thrilla so i tried to cut the .gif shorter so it would be less than 200kb...

comfortable my a_s, lol, no for real maybe by US standards your just comfortable, but by our standards my man you are rich, 10 hecs is a big piece of land ....

a lot of opportunies await you also back home, usually US$ (money) if you have them, find its own opportunies in the PI...

JaNnO

12-13-2004, 11:01 AM

i just change my avatar back to Francine, it was a request from Thrilla so i tried to cut the .gif shorter so it would be less than 200kb...

comfortable my a_s, lol, no for real maybe by US standards your just comfortable, but by our standards my man you are rich, 10 hecs is a big piece of land ....

a lot of opportunies await you also back home, usually US$ (money) if you have them, find its own opportunies in the PI...

you haven't seen or heard about greedy politicians with a few thousand has. of land...with only a downpour of saliva, influence and connection to get those for free. whatever happened to our land reform program?

JOM'S

12-14-2004, 04:14 AM

you haven't seen or heard about greedy politicians with a few thousand has. of land...with only a downpour of saliva, influence and connection to get those for free. whatever happened to our land reform program?

pare those greedy politician, they are not just rich, they are f_cking filthy rich and will burn in hell ....

i think land reform still is working, but i think only a percent had been handed down to poor farmers...

THRILLAinmanila

12-14-2004, 04:17 AM

yes sir luisito espinosa aka "lindol" or "the king" used to be a feared fighter in his primetime and is a two-time world champion. even hamed was ducking him...to bad he didn't have any good management...his decision to let his wife takeover his career proved to be a bad mistake...he's still here in the us.s. fighting in some small and never-heard-of matches just to keep his green card status...manny is surely luckier than him.

yup sad story for Lindol Espinosa. but he sure is one of the Phil. boxing greats. ..

grayfist

12-14-2004, 06:35 AM

yes sir luisito espinosa aka "lindol" or "the king" used to be a feared fighter in his primetime and is a two-time world champion. even hamed was ducking him...to bad he didn't have any good management...his decision to let his wife takeover his career proved to be a bad mistake...he's still here in the us.s. fighting in some small and never-heard-of matches just to keep his green card status...manny is surely luckier than him.Yes, sad story, that Luisito. Manny should think about him whenever he's hit by the urge to bet a couple of hundred big ones in pool. :o

JOM'S

12-14-2004, 07:03 AM

Yes, sad story, that Luisito. Manny should think about him whenever he's hit by the urge to bet a couple of hundred big ones in pool. :o

aside from luisito, manny should also put into mind rolando navarette when he is on his happy go lucky mode and onyok velasco every time he is being offered to guest on tv...

grayfist

12-14-2004, 07:14 AM

aside from luisito, manny should also put into mind rolando navarette when he is on his happy go lucky mode and onyok velasco every time he is being offered to guest on tv...Rolando, yes! Manny and he come from the same town? Stark reminder for manny, Rolando. :o

Re: Onyok, don't know much about him save he got a silver medal at the summer games. He never turned pro, did he? Haven't heard about him. :confused:

JOM'S

12-14-2004, 07:21 AM

Rolando, yes! Manny and he come from the same town? Stark reminder for manny, Rolando. :o

Re: Onyok, don't know much about him save he got a silver medal at the summer games. He never turned pro, did he? Haven't heard about him. :confused:

onyok's job now is doing extras on tv, a comedian, he could have been our first olympic games gold medalist, but his popularity pulled him away from boxing to show business, he could have been Philippines greatest amateur boxer, but now that's history and i think his enjoying his new career earning some money without getting hurt....

charioteer

12-14-2004, 07:30 AM

What a great uppercut!!!
Manny sent fashan flyin alryt!!

evosbm

12-16-2004, 03:29 AM

1zz

12-16-2004, 08:40 AM

Marquez should dominate in a rematch.

moochi

12-16-2004, 11:44 AM

he is in pristine condition and marquez will be in trouble this time around.

moochi

12-16-2004, 11:45 AM

and marquez will regret the bias judging last time around

grayfist

12-17-2004, 01:17 AM

onyok's job now is doing extras on tv, a comedian, he could have been our first olympic games gold medalist, but his popularity pulled him away from boxing to show business, he could have been Philippines greatest amateur boxer, but now that's history and i think his enjoying his new career earning some money without getting hurt....The lure of showbizniz, Pal!...can't sometimes be resisted! :D

Little Onyok, TV star, eh? ;)

THRILLAinmanila

12-17-2004, 01:41 AM

The lure of showbizniz, Pal!...can't sometimes be resisted! :D

Little Onyok, TV star, eh? ;)

Yup. But who knows what greatness awaited him had he gone into professional boxing ?? How are you grayfist ?

ClydeErwinBarretto

12-17-2004, 01:55 AM

What do you guys think of Pac's chances against JMM this February? What does he need to do to win this fight?
I think one of the things Manny can try out is that since he'll eventually have less time to train for the fight is to not RUSH in like a BULL maybe for the first 3-4 rounds. Use the jab that Freddie Roach I hope is hopefully teaching him in order to feel out Marquez and see how much strength Marquez may have or any new fighting methods Marquez may be trying to do and save his power for the middle rounds. Marquez may already anticipate Manny trying to knock him out early so that may get him to get off balance and bewildered for a bit...so conserving his energy and the BLAST MARQUEZ's ASS in the middle rounds and see how Marquez reacts to that...but knowing PAC he's just probably going to rush into the fight as usual...But remember after that first round his LEFT hand was already injured. Hopefully he doesn't let the same happen so he can have full power for all rounds. I just hope he's in ready condition for the fight. It'd be a shame for him to go into this fight really unprepared...