View Full Version : Bush's double talk comes back to bite him


BLOODSHED
07-30-2005, 12:33 PM
I dont know if you guys remember, but two months ago the Bush admin was trying to sit on the fence after the Uzbek government killed over 500 people that protested saying something like we urge the people to be calm and protest peacefully (which they did) and for Uzbekistan's dictator (which he is) to remain calm.

This is the same country that invaded Iraq for the sake of democracy and refused to condemn a dictator for killing 500 protestors. Looks like Uzbek's dictator had the last laugh. Did I mention, Uzbekistan has a lot of oil?
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050730/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_uzbekistan

Uzbekistan Evicts U.S. From Air Base

WASHINGTON - The Central Asian nation of Uzbekistan has ended its agreement allowing U.S. military aircraft and personnel to use an air base that has been an important hub for American military operations in
Afghanistan, administration officials said Saturday.


No reason Uzbekistan was evicting U.S. forces from Karshi-Khanabad air base, commonly referred to as K2, was offered by either the State Department or the Defense Department. The Washington Post, which first reported the eviction notice, said no reason was given by Uzbekistan and that U.S. forces would have six months to leave.

The U.S. Embassy in the Uzbek capital of Tashkent received the diplomatic note terminating the agreement late last week, State Department spokeswoman Nancy Beck said. A
Pentagon spokesman, Glenn Flood, said the notice was received Friday.

"This is a bilateral agreement between two sovereign nations, and under that agreement either side has the option to terminate that agreement," Beck said. The State Department had no further comment, she said.

The Uzbek government in recent months had tightened restriction on use of the base, including banning night flights.

"We have to step back and look at our options now and see where we go from here," Flood said. "That airfield has been very important for our operations in Afghanistan" — humanitarian as well as military.

K2 has been a critical staging point for U.S. military operations in Afghanistan since the earliest days of the war, which began in October 2001.

More recently, the base has been used to move supplies, including humanitarian aid, into northern Afghanistan. It also is a refueling point for transport planes.

The eviction notice came just days after Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld returned from a Central Asia visit to two Uzbek neighboring states, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan. Officials in Kyrgyzstan affirmed to Rumsfeld that U.S. forces can continue to use Manas air base for as long as the Afghan war requires.

U.S. forces do not use any bases in Tajikistan, which shares a long border with northern Afghanistan. The Pentagon has an arrangement that permits U.S. planes to refuel there under certain circumstances.

During his trip, Rumsfeld said he did not believe U.S. operations in Afghanistan would be hurt if the Uzbek government denied continued use of K2 because there are other air base options in the region.

"We're always thinking ahead. We'll be fine," Rumsfeld said on Monday.

In early July, a regional organization led by Russia and China issued a statement calling for the U.S. to set a timetable for withdrawing its forces from Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan.

Uzbekistan's ties with Washington have deteriorated after the Bush administration joined other Western nations in urging an international investigation into the suppression of a May uprising in the eastern Uzbek city of Andijan.

Uzbek government troops fired on protesters in the city after militants seized a prison and a government building. Authorities denied that troops fired on unarmed civilians and said that 187 people died in the unrest; human rights groups put the figure as high as 750.

Uzbekistan's president, Islam Karimov, who has ruled for 16 years and tolerates no dissent, has blamed the violence on Islamic militants.

He has rejected the demands for an outside inquiry, and, facing Western criticism, has found a strong support in Russia and China. Both of them are wary about the U.S. military presence in the strategic and resource-rich region.

medium-deek
07-30-2005, 01:08 PM
Bush is a hypocritical mofo. He dont give a **** about freedom and democracy. Talk all that **** to stupid gullable americans while at the same time his administration upholds some of the most vile and undemocratic regimes in the world.

Most americans are too stupid to see all this. Those who do are labled as weak.

BLOODSHED
07-30-2005, 01:27 PM
Sadly, very true.
Bush is a hypocritical mofo. He dont give a **** about freedom and democracy. Talk all that **** to stupid gullable americans while at the same time his administration upholds some of the most vile and undemocratic regimes in the world.

Most americans are too stupid to see all this. Those who do are labled as weak.

Super_Lightweight
07-30-2005, 01:54 PM
Bush is a hypocritical mofo. He dont give a **** about freedom and democracy. Talk all that **** to stupid gullable americans while at the same time his administration upholds some of the most vile and undemocratic regimes in the world.

Most americans are too stupid to see all this. Those who do are labled as weak.

Almost all world leaders are hypocrits. All the leaders of the UN are sworn to defend defenseless countries and peoples like the Uzbeks, and they don't. You are a complete biased *******, and you just attack Bush when your leaders do the same thing. Chirac, Blair, and all the rest don't act like they give a **** about democracy either. France was in ****ing cahoots with Iraq and in bed with Saddam. Sounds like YOU are the hypocrite.

Anyone who "sees" it the way you do shouldn't be labeled weak, only an assclown.

Most americans are too stupid to see all this.

Stereotype much, Mr. democracy? I gues that means all of France, Germany, England, and everyone else in the UN's citizens are stupid as well.

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medium-deek
07-30-2005, 05:11 PM
Almost all world leaders are hypocrits. All the leaders of the UN are sworn to defend defenseless countries and peoples like the Uzbeks, and they don't. You are a complete biased *******, and you just attack Bush when your leaders do the same thing. Chirac, Blair, and all the rest don't act like they give a **** about democracy either. France was in ****ing cahoots with Iraq and in bed with Saddam. Sounds like YOU are the hypocrite.

Anyone who "sees" it the way you do shouldn't be labeled weak, only an assclown.



Stereotype much, Mr. democracy? I gues that means all of France, Germany, England, and everyone else in the UN's citizens are stupid as well.

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So, just because everyone else does it, that makes it okay? You are the leader of the 'free world'. Demand that your leaders set an example. Stop being such a patriotic moron and wake and smell the coffee.

El mas Rapido
07-30-2005, 10:53 PM
America reminds me of the big tough freind that always gets into fights, Good to have around sometimes but other times you have to step back and say, I don't know this ****ing idiot!

Super_Lightweight
07-30-2005, 11:03 PM
So, just because everyone else does it, that makes it okay? You are the leader of the 'free world'. Demand that your leaders set an example. Stop being such a patriotic moron and wake and smell the coffee.

Way to avoid the issue, assclown. If anyone needs to smell the coffee, it is you. You ignore your own country's hypocracy and focus on America's. That's because you are a biased *******. Whoever said it was ok? I never did. Put words in people's mouths much? Demand that YOUR leaders set an example instead of trying to justify your hate of America.

All Americans are dumb, huh? I don't need any further proof that anything you say about America is driven by hate and is to be ignored.

OUT.

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