Danny Williams came in at 270 lbs. at the weigh in. One of the heavist weights if not the heaviest for a Heavyweight Title fight. He looked very thick around the middle. When a fighter comes in this heavy this often times means he is not prepared physically and more than likely will gas out during the fight. I see Vitali KOing Danny in the middle rounds, but of course I could be wrong because the outcome of a fight is often times unpredictable(as seen with Tyson blowing out his knee against Williams). So do you think Danny Williams stands a chance agaist Vitali coming in with a physique that looks like he's been training on Twinkies and KFC rather than his boxing skills.



P.S. - I am NOT a fan of either of these guys so the comments I have made is based on a neutral observation. I am neutral during the fight as well, and really dont care who wins it.

Williams has never looked good or slightly ripped, he just looks big but not fat to me, i think he's come in heavy cos thats his round - about weight, last time he came in at 266 (i think), he obviously feels more confidant heavier, prob cos he's strong as ****, and vitali looks so different now he's not geared up anymore, ah to be a natural athlete!!

Williams looks fine to me...

Williams looks fine to me...
ya
he didnt look like he was carryin 270
which is not a good sign for vit
hes carrying the weight well

I'm really starting to get my doubts about this place with all the unnecessarily anti-Danny threads creeping up. If we ARE going to have such threads, can they at least be informed, rather than racist/spurious claims that he's said negative remarks/he's a bum but I've never seen him fight/he's fat.

WHY just look at a fighter's weight and make that abitary judgement? The photos I saw showed clear abs definition on Danny. HOW can you possibly compare his weight with another heavyweight's? If it was a smaller heavyweight, fair enough, but Danny's a big guy. You may not have noticed this, but Danny does actually have muscles. Jesus!

ya
he didnt look like he was carryin 270
which is not a good sign for vit
hes carrying the weight well
Ya he looks really solid,thats 270p. of muscle.U can be sure thier is gonna be a KO. Key for Danny is to stay low an rip to the body.

DW gets starched in 5. Man that limey ******* looks out of shape

Okay he dont look ripped he looks real strong, allthough if you check the tale of the tape you will se that Vit has bigger muscles, and he is both a lot taller and weighs 20lbs less.

Vit seems a lot better trained.

Okay he dont look ripped he looks real strong, allthough if you check the tale of the tape you will se that Vit has bigger muscles, and he is both a lot taller and weighs 20lbs less.

Vit seems a lot better trained.


I agree with you he looked more prepared and focused. I am not even a fan and I say this.

The fact that Danny Williams has had Jim McDonnald training him most likely means Danny is in shape. I can't understand where all this fat talk is coming from the guy looks very strong. Do you need to look cut or ripped for boxing? No you dont this isn't a body building contest. Lets also remember that George Foreman descovered his stamina not at 220lbs but between 250-265lbs. This fight is going to be explosive I think look for Williams to jump straight on Vitali. After watching Vitali's reactions to Sanders mini attacks I'd say that's the best bet. Over whelm him. Go Danny go.

I think Danny is in great shape... People think hes "fat" haha it's all muscle. They say Danny can run 24 100m sprints after 15 sec intervals/
Thats what his trainer calls "dog" shape! :)

I love coming onto this forum and reading racist remarks for English people. Calling Danny a "Limey" seems to be an acceptable criticism for morons who can't string a sentence together... I wonder if the same people would call him a "n*****"?

most of these people are idiots, you can clearly see the definition in his midsection, his shoulders are huge! im sorry people but he isnt fat, he is strong as a dam ox, if anything vitali looks drawn and weak at 250, his arms are tiny, those measurements are definitly wrong. he is much much stronger than vitali, you will see that in the ring, he may not win, but it wont be for lack of conditioning

I love coming onto this forum and reading racist remarks for English people. Calling Danny a "Limey" seems to be an acceptable criticism for morons who can't string a sentence together... I wonder if the same people would call him a "n*****"?


Limey is a far cry from the word n*****. anyway please dont ruin this thread by turning this into a race issue. if you want to have little race debates go start a thread about racism in the boxing lounge. lets talk boxing in here please.

I love coming onto this forum and reading racist remarks for English people. Calling Danny a "Limey" seems to be an acceptable criticism for morons who can't string a sentence together... I wonder if the same people would call him a "n*****"?

PERHAPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

what the hell is a limey anyway? it doesnt sound very derogatory, why dont you use ****** or something that everybody understands

Limey is a far cry from the word n*****. anyway please dont ruin this thread by turning this into a race issue. if you want to have little race debates go start a thread about racism in the boxing lounge. lets talk boxing in here please.

Sorry Johnny, you start a thread saying someone looks "like crap" and then expect a serious boxing discussion?

Not only that but ARE YOU READING THE SAME THREAD AS ME?!!!?

Get this: I am ENGLISH. I am coming in here reading racial slurs against ENGLISH PEOPLE. THAT is why I am talking about racism.

what the hell is a limey anyway? it doesnt sound very derogatory, why dont you use ****** or something that everybody understands

Limey - English people who travelled to America used to suck lime on the boats to stop them getting sick in the old days. That's where it derives from, so in and of itself it isn't that offensive... but its application is.

the reason why we make fun of you brits is because y'all bunch of snaggled tooth tea drinking panty waists. Oh yeah yer boy Danny is gonna get smoked by Dr.Frankstein I GUARENTEE IT! :D

I give you that one, Eyeh8you, if you're just goofing around that's cool. Maybe I need to go to bed, it's 1.30am over here. Maybe I'm just spoiling for a ruck with all the excitement.

Limey - English people who travelled to America used to suck lime on the boats to stop them getting sick in the old days. That's where it derives from, so in and of itself it isn't that offensive... but its application is.
yeah it was called scurvy. Lack of Absorbic Acid a.k.a Viatamin C

Sorry Johnny, you start a thread saying someone looks "like crap" and then expect a serious boxing discussion?

Not only that but ARE YOU READING THE SAME THREAD AS ME?!!!?

Get this: I am ENGLISH. I am coming in here reading racial slurs against ENGLISH PEOPLE. THAT is why I am talking about racism.



well to say he looked like crap is a matter of opinion- in my humble opinion he is doing the wrong thing by coming in heavy like that. Ok if you have a problem with people saying the word "Limey" --report the offender, do you see that button that says 'report' press that and use it and report to the administrator what is being said--they will check it out and correct those who offended you.

That's right, scurvy, couldn't remember it offhand.

I give you that one, Eyeh8you, if you're just goofing around that's cool. Maybe I need to go to bed, it's 1.30am over here. Maybe I'm just spoiling for a ruck with all the excitement.
of course im puling yer leg. Just havin fun, man I use to train w/British Soldiers when i was in the Army. Matter a fact a got this huge Unionjack one year heck I still have it.

well to say he looked like crap is a matter of opinion- in my humble opinion he is doing the wrong thing by coming in heavy like that. Ok if you have a problem with people saying the word "Limey" --report the offender, do you see that button that says 'report' press that and use it and report to the administrator what is being said--they will check it out and correct those who offended you.
why not tell him to tell his mommy you fukin geek!

Johnny - fair play, all I'm saying is it's a bit rich acting all "let's have some serious debate here" when you post a thread like that. It's like me getting sniffy if people post jokey replies to a thread called "Johnny Ruiz has got a smelly bum-bum"


Incidentally, bum for us Limeys doesn't mean "vagrant" but fanny. And "fanny" for us tea drinkers means something else entirely...


PS. I don't drink tea.

the reason why we make fun of you brits is because y'all bunch of snaggled tooth tea drinking panty waists. Oh yeah yer boy Danny is gonna get smoked by Dr.Frankstein I GUARENTEE IT! :D



.....RAOFLMAO

Eye, I ain't gonna report you, I'll step up to the plate and go toe-to-toe if anyone wants it. Though I think I waded in too heavy here, overreacted. It's not really this thread - just the others about Danny. I'm just disappointed, because Americans were really friendly to me when I came over in November... but on this board there seems anti-English undertones.

Johnny - fair play, all I'm saying is it's a bit rich acting all "let's have some serious debate here" when you post a thread like that. It's like me getting sniffy if people post jokey replies to a thread called "Johnny Ruiz has got a smelly bum-bum"


Incidentally, bum for us Limeys doesn't mean "vagrant" but fanny. And "fanny" for us tea drinkers means something else entirely...


PS. I don't drink tea.
I remeber once this british dude said to me in Ireland hey Can I puff a *** from you. I swear I almost decked him, but these irish dudes i was w/ explained he wanted a cigarette.LOL

why not tell him to tell his mommy you fukin geek!


i'd rather him report someone than to come into my thread and go back and forth about who called who what---that **** gets old and tired.

Eye, I ain't gonna report you, I'll step up to the plate and go toe-to-toe if anyone wants it. Though I think I waded in too heavy here, overreacted. It's not really this thread - just the others about Danny. I'm just disappointed, because Americans were really friendly to me when I came over in November... but on this board there seems anti-English undertones.
we just kid here. MAn american are the freindliest ppl you'll ever meet. Euros on the other hand are all a bunch of anti-american a-holes. I dont realy consider irish and brits euros. I mean like Germans and French and Italiens. They talk about being tolerantwell they sure dont tolerate us much or at least in my life experiences

It's no good looking from the outside... I didn't fully "get" America until I came over. I liked Americans, but now I wanna live there.

But if you were talking to someone who'd never been... how could you explain the fact that you re-elected George Bush?!!?

Serious debate of the week on tonight's news:

"Man, that Danny Williams looked like a fat piece of ****. What's he doing, training down McDonald's and stuffing his fat face with burgers? He's a big obese bugger!"

Let's debate that issue!!


(Incidentally, Danny was just on TV over here, jokingly referring to himself as still down to Earth, and "still that fat kid from Peckham".

hey man were being cool now. Im republican so no anti-Bush talk OK!

I say VK takes him out in the same way he did Johnson

Williams Means Domination.

I say VK takes him out in the same way he did Johnson
Is this you still kidding? I AM concerned this could end badly - maybe Danny will get caught cold and shame himself. But he's a different kind of stocky to Johnson. Now THAT was fat!

im sick of arguing about it, i cant wait till the fight actually starts, i think were gonna see some real fireworks for a while, i say williams decapitates vitali with an uppercut from hell in the 9th round, i think he actually might kill vitali in the ring

Nah im being honet about this one, but its only my oppinion

I am concerned for Danny but when it comes down to it Vitali's just an awkward bugger. He's far from unbeatable... it's just that no one's done it yet.

look at it this way, if danny loses what has he really lost? he is getting a payday to retire on and if he does lose he will just be back where he was at the worst, and if he loses but puts up a valiant effort i wouldnt be surprised to see him fight for one of the other titles, i think he could take any of the other 3 belts definitly, he really has nothing to lose, unlike vitali

look at it this way, if danny loses what has he really lost? he is getting a payday to retire on and if he does lose he will just be back where he was at the worst, and if he loses but puts up a valiant effort i wouldnt be surprised to see him fight for one of the other titles, i think he could take any of the other 3 belts definitly, he really has nothing to lose, unlike vitali


yes, he said he's retiring after this big payday, Danny's got nothin to lose. as for the weight, 270 seems like a lot, but williams is no kirk johnson, he looks better at 265 then johnson did at 235. i hear williams "normal" fighting weight is around 265, if that is the case wtf is everybody's problem? maybe he just put on an extra 5 pounds of muscle so he can hit Vitali a little harder.

Its a solid 270, but that doesn't matter. Boxing isn't about big muscles. Williams at that weight with his frame will tire faster in a long fight-that's just a scientific fact. Klitschko's stamina is not great either, so that's his only saving grace . . .

Its a solid 270, but that doesn't matter. Boxing isn't about big muscles. Williams at that weight with his frame will tire faster in a long fight-that's just a scientific fact. Klitschko's stamina is not great either, so that's his only saving grace . . .


it doesnt matter if its 270 lbs of muscle or fat. the heavier you are the more tired you get because you consume more energy by just being a bigger person.

most of these people are idiots, you can clearly see the definition in his midsection, his shoulders are huge! im sorry people but he isnt fat, he is strong as a dam ox, if anything vitali looks drawn and weak at 250, his arms are tiny, those measurements are definitly wrong. he is much much stronger than vitali, you will see that in the ring, he may not win, but it wont be for lack of conditioning

Listen VK upperbody muscles are bigger and DW and he is more ripped, VK don look as strong cause he so damn long.

An example why does Tyson allways looks the stronger..... because a shorter guy does.

we just kid here. MAn american are the freindliest ppl you'll ever meet. Euros on the other hand are all a bunch of anti-american a-holes. I dont realy consider irish and brits euros. I mean like Germans and French and Italiens. They talk about being tolerantwell they sure dont tolerate us much or at least in my life experiences

As allmost every American you are ignorant about the rest of the world.

Why did you change the theme anyway?

:o I say VK takes him out in the same way he did Johnson

Nah, he will do better than johson, still he will be koed.

:o

Nah, he will do better than johson, still he will be koed.

i do agree on that

anyone wanna bet 4000 points, that danyy will win?

anyone wanna bet 4000 points, that danyy will win?


i know who will bet you, that dude named EYEH8you will bet ...go to his thread called "To The British" you'll find him there.

deep down i know danny will probably lose, these are my 2 favourite heavyweights, the only two whos carears ive followed.

deep down i know danny will probably lose, these are my 2 favourite heavyweights, the only two whos carears ive followed.


go bet that dude it will be interesting go ahead