View Full Version : Jones vs Tarver III looks to be ON


rpf7389
07-26-2005, 08:32 AM
its true look on boxrec.com on their record, they are scheduled for the1st of october 2005 in las vegas :) :)

TheEvilSaint
07-26-2005, 08:33 AM
Welcome to BoxingScene.

dont intend to be mean here but theres already a thread on this.

spinksjinx
07-26-2005, 09:07 AM
Yeah I am not believing this. Boxrec has track record of listing fights in advance and later pulling them. It was most evident when they penciled in a date with Hopkins vs Toney in 2003 and Toney vs Byrd

The Fix
07-26-2005, 10:31 AM
Yeah I am not believing this. Boxrec has track record of listing fights in advance and later pulling them. It was most evident when they penciled in a date with Hopkins vs Toney in 2003 and Toney vs Byrd
espn.com is reporting it as well...

iam going to see it live if the fight happens

Manny_P
07-26-2005, 10:36 AM
jones will get koed again.

spinksjinx
07-26-2005, 10:39 AM
espn.com is reporting it as well...

iam going to see it live if the fight happens


Just have to wait and see, I know Lampley made a note of Roy looking in shape and that could be taken as a sign but who really knows with Roy. I mean he is always in top shape and ESPN reporting doesnt do much they dont cover boxing enough for me to take them seriously. The only time I will believe it is when I hear it direct from HBO or Mr. Unstoppable himself. :D

I think Roy should take it but if he fights cautiously than he will be heavily criticized although that is the formula for beating Tarver. Be cautious let him swing and get tired and then take over in the stretch.

riz
07-26-2005, 10:55 AM
i dont know y ppl would want to c this. i mean this aint when hagler retired cuz he lost a close decision.... RJJ has been KO'd twice in a row. against johnson he was owned.

this is pointless for jones, and i highly recommend he doesn't do this

The Fix
07-26-2005, 10:55 AM
Just have to wait and see, I know Lampley made a note of Roy looking in shape and that could be taken as a sign but who really knows with Roy. I mean he is always in top shape and ESPN reporting doesnt do much they dont cover boxing enough for me to take them seriously. The only time I will believe it is when I hear it direct from HBO or Mr. Unstoppable himself. :D

I think Roy should take it but if he fights cautiously than he will be heavily criticized although that is the formula for beating Tarver. Be cautious let him swing and get tired and then take over in the stretch.
yeah thats what he is going to have to do, he cant fight like he did the seciond time around when he got really aggressive with tarver early. then we all know what happened after that

restless_438
07-26-2005, 10:56 AM
any update on a location? may have to see this live as well, if the timing's right

jabsRstiff
07-26-2005, 11:00 AM
I don't want to see this fight, should it happen.
Roy is damaged goods. I picture him cringing any time a Tarver punch approaches him, & with good reason. Roy is now open to big punches, he cannot absorb them, & is at a tremendous mental disadvantage against a guy who already dusted him.

spinksjinx
07-26-2005, 11:11 AM
yeah thats what he is going to have to do, he cant fight like he did the seciond time around when he got really aggressive with tarver early. then we all know what happened after that


Which is why I think he shouldnt come back. Any fight he takes now he will have to be alert and cautious and if Roy fights more cautious than he use to do than it will do nothing for him. Roy has his legacy and I think he should retire. I hope this fight isnt ppv because I know I sure as hell wouldnt pay for it.

restless_438
07-26-2005, 11:16 AM
Which is why I think he shouldnt come back. Any fight he takes now he will have to be alert and cautious and if Roy fights more cautious than he use to do than it will do nothing for him. Roy has his legacy and I think he should retire. I hope this fight isnt ppv because I know I sure as hell wouldnt pay for it.

oh, you know as well as i do that there is no way the higher-ups at HBO will ever put this on anything but PPV, regardless of the result, it will sell buys.

i dont know what to think about this fight.... i want Roy to avenge his losses, for him to win would make my year. i just don't know, but i would buy it simply because he's my favorite fighter and always will be, his legacy will always be good in my book.

spinksjinx
07-26-2005, 11:39 AM
oh, you know as well as i do that there is no way the higher-ups at HBO will ever put this on anything but PPV, regardless of the result, it will sell buys.

i dont know what to think about this fight.... i want Roy to avenge his losses, for him to win would make my year. i just don't know, but i would buy it simply because he's my favorite fighter and always will be, his legacy will always be good in my book.


See thats the thing, I dont think he needs that fight for his legacy as in my eyes he peaked after beating Ruiz and after that fight he accomplished as much as he was capable of. Which is tremendous. Roy never brought in huge numbers anyway and his last fight was a regular telecast and he got knocked out again. Certainly nobody would really want to pay for it. If the fight happened immediately after the KO the hype would have still been their since it isnt like Tarver completely shut down Roy and then knocked him out. The only way this will sell will be completely on the Jones name alone.

My pick is Jones by UD, Roy might have slipped but Tarver isnt the same fighter either. If Roy came in prime and motivated he would wipe him out. But I have no interest in the fight, it would be nice but wouldnt satisfy me any.

Although I do believe if Roy avenged both of his losses in fantastic fashion the 2 ko's would be ignored but isnt likely. Roy would get heavily criticized for the way he would fight and get labeled "scared".

Bombardier
07-26-2005, 11:51 AM
If this fight's on PPV it might die because a lot of fans will hold out and pay for the Oct. 8 Showtime card instead. If you have to choose between one or the other then it's pretty obvious which one if the one to go with. That alone might scare them off of this date, because I can't see them putting Roy on regular HBO if he would consider it an insult.

restless_438
07-26-2005, 11:51 AM
See thats the thing, I dont think he needs that fight for his legacy as in my eyes he peaked after beating Ruiz and after that fight he accomplished as much as he was capable of. Which is tremendous. Roy never brought in huge numbers anyway and his last fight was a regular telecast and he got knocked out again. Certainly nobody would really want to pay for it. If the fight happened immediately after the KO the hype would have still been their since it isnt like Tarver completely shut down Roy and then knocked him out. The only way this will sell will be completely on the Jones name alone.

My pick is Jones by UD, Roy might have slipped but Tarver isnt the same fighter either. If Roy came in prime and motivated he would wipe him out. But I have no interest in the fight, it would be nice but wouldnt satisfy me any.

Although I do believe if Roy avenged both of his losses in fantastic fashion the 2 ko's would be ignored but isnt likely. Roy would get heavily criticized for the way he would fight and get labeled "scared".

very good points..

PBDS
07-26-2005, 11:52 AM
i dont know y ppl would want to c this. i mean this aint when hagler retired cuz he lost a close decision.... RJJ has been KO'd twice in a row. against johnson he was owned.

this is pointless for jones, and i highly recommend he doesn't do this


...I couldn't have said it better myself. He gets another brutal beating and he will be slurring like Bowe in 5 years. His ego is going to get him killed.

guru
07-26-2005, 11:55 AM
have to call BS on this... there's no way rj is gonna come back from 2 straight KO losses with a rematch with tarver... he shouldn't even be fighting anymore much less fighting AT again...

spinksjinx
07-26-2005, 11:57 AM
If this fight's on PPV it might die because a lot of fans will hold out and pay for the Oct. 8 Showtime card instead. If you have to choose between one or the other then it's pretty obvious which one if the one to go with. That alone might scare them off of this date, because I can't see them putting Roy on regular HBO if he would consider it an insult.


I wouldnt pay for either...Showtime is really screwing the fans by putting that on ppv. I mean they gave us Hatton vs Tszyu and a plethora of other fights for free. They are cashing in on it because of it being labeled the best fight ever. But Corrales has stated he wanted 1 war and he had it and he would box Castillo. I bet the rematch wont be nearly as exciting because Corrales knows he wont get the opportunity he had in the first fight.

Bombardier
07-26-2005, 12:04 PM
I wouldnt pay for either...Showtime is really screwing the fans by putting that on ppv. I mean they gave us Hatton vs Tszyu and a plethora of other fights for free. They are cashing in on it because of it being labeled the best fight ever. But Corrales has stated he wanted 1 war and he had it and he would box Castillo. I bet the rematch wont be nearly as exciting because Corrales knows he wont get the opportunity he had in the first fight.

Yeah, I have a feeling Corrales is going to spend most of the time on the outside, especially seeing as he was more or less forced into this rematch. Like you said he's not looking to do battle again. He didn't sound right for weeks after the last one, I don't think he's looking to absorb that much damage again.

The whole rematch thing is starting to piss my off anyway. We have three guaranteed plus the Chavez fight, which I don't know the status of. Is it really getting so hard to make matchups that guys have to keep fighting each other over and over? The Morales-Pacquiao match is completely unnecessary...Morales dominated him pretty much wire to wire. Arce ran into some trouble but otherwise killed Hussein as well. And like you said Corrales-Castillo is nothing but a money grab.

restless_438
07-26-2005, 12:10 PM
The whole rematch thing is starting to piss my off anyway. We have three guaranteed plus the Chavez fight, which I don't know the status of. Is it really getting so hard to make matchups that guys have to keep fighting each other over and over? The Morales-Pacquiao match is completely unnecessary...Morales dominated him pretty much wire to wire. Arce ran into some trouble but otherwise killed Hussein as well. And like you said Corrales-Castillo is nothing but a money grab.


i agree with you. and i have this feeling that much of the problem stems from the fact that alot of the "top executive" guys at HBO and Showtime are hesitant to go with anything anywhere near "outside" the boundaries. "Afraid to take a chance" you might say. Those rematches are the only fights they feel "comfortable" with that will make them $$$ for sure. so that's what they'll go with as their first option, because in the end, it will make them $$$. :(

Truth
07-26-2005, 12:13 PM
Which is why I think he shouldnt come back. Any fight he takes now he will have to be alert and cautious and if Roy fights more cautious than he use to do than it will do nothing for him. Roy has his legacy and I think he should retire. I hope this fight isnt ppv because I know I sure as hell wouldnt pay for it.

How could you say that!!!No I am just kidding, its just RJ is my favorite boxer of all time so the chance that he might beat Tarver and retire with a win sounds extremley good to me. :)

cvt
07-26-2005, 12:15 PM
roy's best days are so far behind him. i se no real motivation for him to get in that ring. he's got a wife and kids, businesses to take care of, as well as diffrent projects that he is interested in (certainly more interested in than boxing). antonio in all respects is still a 'hungry' fighter. hungry in terms that even though he is the undisputed LH champ...he still feels he needs to go out and prove something. he wants to be a household name...he wants to be marketable...he wants a legacy. for jones, in his mind (and many others) his legacy is already established regadless of the two knockdowns.

but...

if jones DOES find that fire in him...the kind that gets him up to fight sharp..then he's still got enough talent to do it. tarver's a counter puncher and when conventional fighters fight southpaws the rear hand comes into effect. roy's biggest mistake was to let tarver wait and wait as roy pressed the issue...roy took the bait 'you got any excusses tonight roy?', brilliant. entice him. some boxers leave a part of their body open to entice a counter...tarver did it with words. knowing RJ had something to prove that night tarver took a shot at RJ's ego...RJ pressed, tarver timed him....and the rest is history.

but...if RJ fights smart and makes tarver come foward then i can see a lot of counter right hands to the body and overhand rights over tarver's left..that would be something. then agin...it's all up to RJ

Truth
07-26-2005, 12:21 PM
I am not going to lie, I am pumped for this fight. I already got my Roy avatar and sig up.:haha:

restless_438
07-26-2005, 12:24 PM
but...

if jones DOES find that fire in him...the kind that gets him up to fight sharp..then he's still got enough talent to do it. tarver's a counter puncher and when conventional fighters fight southpaws the rear hand comes into effect. roy's biggest mistake was to let tarver wait and wait as roy pressed the issue...roy took the bait 'you got any excusses tonight roy?', brilliant. entice him. some boxers leave a part of their body open to entice a counter...tarver did it with words. knowing RJ had something to prove that night tarver took a shot at RJ's ego...RJ pressed, tarver timed him....and the rest is history.

but...if RJ fights smart and makes tarver come foward then i can see a lot of counter right hands to the body and overhand rights over tarver's left..that would be something. then agin...it's all up to RJ

if there's any possible time that Roy Jones Jr. could possibly make a stand, its now or never. He's 36, i'll admit, he's not a young guy anymore, time can only be against him now.

I believe this is a HUGE mountain for him to climb and it would be anything but easy, but if he... and I mean if He, inside himself has that so-called "fire" again, knowing he has something to prove once again to the boxing public, he could if determined, stand a fair chance, should he decide to take the hike.

cvt
07-26-2005, 12:31 PM
if there's any possible time that Roy Jones Jr. could possibly make a stand, its now or never. He's 36, i'll admit, he's not a young guy anymore, time can only be against him now.

I believe this is a HUGE mountain for him to climb and it would be anything but easy, but if he... and I mean if He, inside himself has that so-called "fire" again, knowing he has something to prove once again to the boxing public, he could if determined, stand a fair chance, should he decide to take the hike.

no doubt this will be a huge task for him. and even though i like roy, realistically tarver's been fighting more frequently and he's 'fresher' than roy with only half the fights that roy ever took.

spinksjinx
07-26-2005, 12:33 PM
Yeah, I have a feeling Corrales is going to spend most of the time on the outside, especially seeing as he was more or less forced into this rematch. Like you said he's not looking to do battle again. He didn't sound right for weeks after the last one, I don't think he's looking to absorb that much damage again.

The whole rematch thing is starting to piss my off anyway. We have three guaranteed plus the Chavez fight, which I don't know the status of. Is it really getting so hard to make matchups that guys have to keep fighting each other over and over? The Morales-Pacquiao match is completely unnecessary...Morales dominated him pretty much wire to wire. Arce ran into some trouble but otherwise killed Hussein as well. And like you said Corrales-Castillo is nothing but a money grab.

Corrales isnt looking to get beat up he wants to move onto the next biggest fight possible and I am sure he will be cautious and Corrales has the ability to outbox Castillo. I will be the first to say that I bet Corrales vs Castillo is a bore fest compared to the first and will flop in ppv numbers.

Morales vs Pacquiao I agree isnt needed, Morales convinced me enough that Pacquiao isnt worthy of another fighter. It is a good thing we are not hearing a rematch for Barrera vs Pacquiao and why should we?

spinksjinx
07-26-2005, 12:36 PM
How could you say that!!!No I am just kidding, its just RJ is my favorite boxer of all time so the chance that he might beat Tarver and retire with a win sounds extremley good to me. :)


Because I am looking out for the health of a favorite fighter of mine. It would be nice but only if he could come out in tip top condition not only physically but mentally as well.

Restless-I think it is a dangerous fight and the age might play a factor but Tarver is also older than Jones I think by a short span though. If one thing is evident Roy has stamina, all he would have to to do is be quick and pot shot him and let him fatigue and then go for the kill in rounds 10-12 where Tarver is the most vulnerable.

But the key factor is he would need speed and with his reflexes looking like they are out the door he might not stand a chance.

It's good only if Roy feels he is good for the fight and mentally prepared.

I also think Jones should bring in the same guy he had helping him with the Ruiz fight.

BadMagick
07-26-2005, 12:42 PM
The Morales-Pacquiao match is completely unnecessary...Morales dominated him pretty much wire to wire.

If he was so thoroughly dominated why did the score cards read 115-113 in favor of Morales?

druth
07-26-2005, 12:44 PM
Being a huge fan of Roy, I hope he does come back and fight Tarver and *maybe* Johnson, but only under one condition.

I hope to God he comes back in shape (sorry but he was out of shape for both fights) and actually wants to fight. If any of you remember during his last two fights, he was looking around the crowd and just didn't seem like he wanted to be there, hence losing.

Tarver and Johnson on their best day can't beat Jones when he WANTS to fight. I doubt any fighter around right now from middleweight through light heavyweight could go 12 rounds with Roy when he wants to go twelve rounds.

Tarver is a helluva counterpuncher, but it's hard to hit someone when they're moving. Granted Roy has lost some of his reflexes and speed, but a slower Jones is still faster than Tarver.

If (and that's a big if) he comes back in shape and wants to fight, he's going to take Tarver to school.

spinksjinx
07-26-2005, 12:44 PM
If he was so thoroughly dominated why did the score cards read 115-113 in favor of Morales?


Do you think Pacquiao fought a pretty competitive fight with Morales? I thought it went downhill for Manny after the 5th round...It was pretty evident he wasnt getting the nod in that fight.

spinksjinx
07-26-2005, 12:46 PM
Being a huge fan of Roy, I hope he does come back and fight Tarver and *maybe* Johnson, but only under one condition.

I hope to God he comes back in shape (sorry but he was out of shape for both fights) and actually wants to fight. If any of you remember during his last two fights, he was looking around the crowd and just didn't seem like he wanted to be there, hence losing.

Tarver and Johnson on their best day can't beat Jones when he WANTS to fight. I doubt any fighter around right now from middleweight through light heavyweight could go 12 rounds with Roy when he wants to go twelve rounds.

Tarver is a helluva counterpuncher, but it's hard to hit someone when they're moving. Granted Roy has lost some of his reflexes and speed, but a slower Jones is still faster than Tarver.

If (and that's a big if) he comes back in shape and wants to fight, he's going to take Tarver to school.


Hopkins would easily go 12 rounds with Jones.

I wouldnt say Jones was out of shape either not physically atleast. But mentally Jones wasnt there.

druth
07-26-2005, 12:54 PM
I don't know about that. Roy would drop weight to come down and pack it back on. There's a huge difference in getting punched by someone who outweighs you by 10+ pounds, especially when they have a great left hook like Jones.

That would be interesting, but I think Jones would put Hopkins down in 10.

DiegoFuego
07-26-2005, 12:59 PM
Tarver to end Roy's career for good this time. It's as simple as this. Roy is scared of Tarver once they get in the ring, and Roy is delusional about his greatness. Tarver has absolutely no fear of Roy, who can't slip punches anymore. Tarver by brutal, brutal KO early in the fight.

Bombardier
07-26-2005, 01:00 PM
If he was so thoroughly dominated why did the score cards read 115-113 in favor of Morales?

Come on now, you know the total scores don't tell the whole story. Pacquiao never had the advantage in the fight except maybe sometime in the first minute of round 1. If we're racing and you lead the whole way even if I'm a few steps behind you the outcome still isn't in doubt.

BadMagick
07-26-2005, 01:01 PM
Do you think Pacquiao fought a pretty competitive fight with Morales? I thought it went downhill for Manny after the 5th round...It was pretty evident he wasnt getting the nod in that fight.

The first time I watched it I had Pacman winning, actually. The second time I had Morales winning, as well as the third time. I thought it was a competitive fight, and never had either winning by more than a round. 115-113 was always my score.

realheavyhands
07-26-2005, 01:14 PM
hopkins could beat tarver easy cuz tarver a southpaw dont move and hopkins best punch is a witherin right hand witch is the best punch to throw gaint a southpaw.....jones will knock tarver out late in this fight ..and hopkins jones would be a great fight

Manny_P
07-26-2005, 01:28 PM
you guys are itchin yer balls fo Jones fo rematchin Tarver fo 3rd time and you think Pac don't deserve anotha shot at Morales? R-I-D-I-C-U-L-O-U-S!

I can tell you one thing. Pac has a betta chance at beating Morales in rematch than Jones beating Tarver. Put what I said in yo sigs and jest wait!

Truth
07-26-2005, 01:37 PM
Because I am looking out for the health of a favorite fighter of mine. It would be nice but only if he could come out in tip top condition not only physically but mentally as well.

Restless-I think it is a dangerous fight and the age might play a factor but Tarver is also older than Jones I think by a short span though. If one thing is evident Roy has stamina, all he would have to to do is be quick and pot shot him and let him fatigue and then go for the kill in rounds 10-12 where Tarver is the most vulnerable.

But the key factor is he would need speed and with his reflexes looking like they are out the door he might not stand a chance.

It's good only if Roy feels he is good for the fight and mentally prepared.

I also think Jones should bring in the same guy he had helping him with the Ruiz fight.

Yeah I don't want to see Roy get seriously hurt but I personally think he will be fine.

Two Key Facts
-Tarver's isn't young either
-Tarver has looked unimpressive in his last two fight also

cvt
07-26-2005, 02:05 PM
Yeah I don't want to see Roy get seriously hurt but I personally think he will be fine.

Two Key Facts
-Tarver's isn't young either
-Tarver has looked unimpressive in his last two fight also

Two key facts
-Tarver is fresher than roy. more that 1/2" less fights than roy.
-Anyone can look bad against a swarmer like glencoffe but tarver won the first fight (in the eyes of most experts and even roy himself) and won the second as well.

restless_438
07-26-2005, 02:17 PM
Restless-I think it is a dangerous fight and the age might play a factor but Tarver is also older than Jones I think by a short span though. If one thing is evident Roy has stamina, all he would have to to do is be quick and pot shot him and let him fatigue and then go for the kill in rounds 10-12 where Tarver is the most vulnerable.

wow, thats right, i forgot.... Tarver seems younger, it's weird

restless_438
07-26-2005, 02:18 PM
I can tell you one thing. Pac has a betta chance at beating Morales in rematch than Jones beating Tarver.

only time will tell on that one...

Manny_P
07-26-2005, 02:19 PM
ya, that's the thing. Sum fightas get old fasta than othas. Jones is older than Tarver when you really compare em. (not their birth certificates, you moron)

Truth
07-26-2005, 03:14 PM
"Memphis a possibility for Jones-Tarver fight
Proposed bout may be finalized this week

By Gary Parrish
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July 26, 2005

Antonio Tarver's last fight was in Memphis. So was Roy Jones Jr.'s.

But will their next fight -- against each other -- be here, too?


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In a word, maybe.

"Memphis is a possibility," said Tarver's promoter, Joe Deguardia. "We'll start looking at that late in the week."

By then -- Deguardia told The Commercial Appeal on Monday -- a deal should be finalized for Jones-Tarver 3, one that will pit the two light heavyweight icons against one another for the third straight year. The fight will be this fall -- Oct. 1 is the likely date -- and be televised by HBO Pay-Per-View.

"Roy Jones and Antonio Tarver are perhaps the Ali-Frazier of this generation," said Deguardia, who had discussions on Monday with Southaven-based Prize Fight Boxing about the possibility of hosting the event at FedExForum. "There will be a lot of adrenaline for this fight. They have a real feud."

That feud dates two decades, when Tarver and Jones, fellow Floridians, competed against one another as amateurs. It only intensified when the rivals became professionals, and climaxed in their second fight, when Tarver delivered a classic boxing moment.

Jones had won their first meeting in 2003 by decision. Still, it was controversial, and he looked lethargic and knew it.

The excuse?

Dropping the pounds Jones put on in order to fight and beat John Ruiz for the WBA heavyweight title eight months prior, Jones said, took a toll. Thus, he got winded quickly.

But Tarver didn't buy it. So when the two stepped to the middle of the ring for instructions moments before their second fight, Tarver posed a question when referee Jay Nady asked if he had any.

"You got any excuses tonight, Roy?"

At that, the crowd went nuts. Less than two rounds later, Tarver caught Jones with a counter left and knocked the champion out for the first time in his career.

Since then, Jones has fought only once, losing by knockout to Glen Johnson at FedExForum in September 2004. Meanwhile, Tarver has fought twice, splitting two fights with Johnson, the most recent of which drew more than 12,000 fans to FedExForum in June.

"Antonio Tarver and Roy Jones would be an entertaining fight," said Prize Fight's Brian Young. "We're going to take a look at it."-commercialappeal.com

Bozo_no no
07-26-2005, 03:39 PM
Tarver-Jones III looks on!

Negotiations for a rubber match between light heavyweight champ Antonio Tarver and former champ Roy Jones Jr., have reportedly concluded successfully pending final approval from both promoters. Brad Jacobs, Jones' senior adviser, told the Tampa Tribune he views approval as a mere formality. The bout would take place on the October 1 slot HBO originally had reserved for Bernard Hopkins, prior to his loss to Jermain Taylor. No site has been named.

Truth
07-26-2005, 03:40 PM
Just posted that...:D Where both going to catch heat for this...

Bozo_no no
07-26-2005, 03:41 PM
Sorry, I took a look and didn't see your thread when I posted this one.

Good news none the less.

Truth
07-26-2005, 03:42 PM
Sorry, I took a look and didn't see your thread when I posted this one.

Good news none the less.

I just erased mine its all good... :D

tracylee
07-26-2005, 03:51 PM
espn.com is reporting it as well...

iam going to see it live if the fight happens

I was hoping they'd do this in Memphis, and I fully planned on going :(

Fareastwarrior
07-26-2005, 03:53 PM
Not really waiting to see Roy Jones back in the ring. Isn't there an interesting match at light heavyweight division except this?

Pac Man Fan 83
07-26-2005, 04:04 PM
Yeah I really don't see myself shelling out $50 to see Roy Jones get knocked out again. I'll be saving my money for the next week when Corrales and Castillo go at it again.

cupcrazy01
07-26-2005, 04:59 PM
I didn't even think about that, this card being just one week before Showtime's huge PPV could be suicide. Especially if Roy is really all shot to hell like he looked vs. Johnson. I won't consider buying this unless I see some great training vids on RJJ in the weeks before the fight.

Tarver better not be overconfident, which is very possible at this point. I think that's Roy's greatest chance, if Tarver undertrains due to complacence with his KO2 win last year...

HBO is going to have to hype the hell out of this to steal buys from Corrales-Castillo II. This date may have been better off used for a regular broadcast, not PPV. They should have switched this date with the Sept. 24 Cotto card...

RwK
07-26-2005, 05:03 PM
Who really knows about this fight. I mean.....Roy beat Tarver convincingly the first time around, and Tarver hit him with a lucky punch the second time. Granted Roy's inactivity could play a big role in this.....but then again.

Look at Tarver's punch output in his last fight with Johnson....that was ridiculous. He was letting his hands go..something he did not do in the first fight against Roy. Even if he doesnt find him as often, he still should eek out the victory based on his agressiveness. Then again, Roy could counter effectively, making this a pickem fight 50-50.

sisforshaq
07-26-2005, 05:03 PM
Ill be looking foward to it.. hopefully I can pick up some tickets for it.

`STEELHEAD
07-26-2005, 05:28 PM
I didn't even think about that, this card being just one week before Showtime's huge PPV could be suicide. Especially if Roy is really all shot to hell like he looked vs. Johnson. I won't consider buying this unless I see some great training vids on RJJ in the weeks before the fight.

Tarver better not be overconfident, which is very possible at this point. I think that's Roy's greatest chance, if Tarver undertrains due to complacence with his KO2 win last year...

HBO is going to have to hype the hell out of this to steal buys from Corrales-Castillo II. This date may have been better off used for a regular broadcast, not PPV. They should have switched this date with the Sept. 24 Cotto card...

man, thats a great avitar.

so roy is pulling a tyson. what a joke.

zabkillsspinks
07-26-2005, 05:42 PM
i am so glad jones is going to take this fight. redemption is coming and then he can get that bum johnson and tear his ass up, and then maybe move up to heavy again. tarver caught him with a lucky punch and jones will prove it october 1.

AND ONCE AGAIN UNDISPUTED LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE WORLD......ROY JONES JR.

JONES BY TKO 4

zip
07-26-2005, 05:50 PM
I doubt this will end with a knockout. I also doubt anyone of them will quit. My guess, SD Tarver, at the moment that is. I might change my mind when I see some Jones vids from his training.

Tarver is my dad
07-26-2005, 06:18 PM
the last time Jones won by KO/TKO was against Clinton Woods, which was like 3 years ago. If Roy was to win this match, I highly doubt he's gonna win by KO/TKO. Most likely UD.

Tha_Greatest
07-26-2005, 06:27 PM
the last time Jones won by KO/TKO was against Clinton Woods, which was like 3 years ago. If Roy was to win this match, I highly doubt he's gonna win by KO/TKO. Most likely UD.
Your dad will win vs Jones, Jones is not the same fighter ever since your dad stepped up to him, I cant see your dad losing,

dansweeney
07-26-2005, 06:47 PM
jones tko 10 over tarver

Tha_Greatest
07-26-2005, 07:05 PM
jones tko 10 over tarver
extremely, highly unlikely, Jones is not the same fighter he was

dansweeney
07-26-2005, 07:07 PM
extremely, highly unlikely, Jones is not the same fighter he was


he may not be, but if the fight happens its not cause he needs the money, this is for his legacy, even at this stage i think Roy on his best night beats Tarver on his best night.

wmute
07-26-2005, 07:15 PM
anything can happen in boxing, but roy jones stepping in the ring and winning again does not seem possible

he is old, and given his style he is even "older". he woulda beaten tarver johnson anyday everyday when he was younger, but now he is old.

some ppl here forgot the johnson fight

but then again anything can happen in boxing

Truth
07-26-2005, 07:20 PM
I just hope that Roy has one last great fight in him...

Easy-E
07-26-2005, 07:24 PM
I just hope that Roy has one last great fight in him...


me too, me too

King Jaffe Joffer
07-26-2005, 07:26 PM
this will sell more than Castillo/Corrales by a landslide. I mean its Roy Jones

marvdave
07-26-2005, 07:27 PM
Roy Jones has lost his reflexes and speed. His chin must be considered questionable now. When he was young, he never got hit..so maybe he had a bad chin all along. Who knows. All I know is that he was brutally ko'ed in his last two fights. I understand why everyone is excited about the prospect of Jones pulling one out of his ass. I just can't see it happening. Tarver will ko him again..but not as early this time.

jedihillis
07-26-2005, 07:35 PM
I'm glad to see RJJ giving it one more shot. Even if he doesn't win, I hope it at least goes the distance. He has to redeam himself after those last couple of KO's. I know if anyone can do it, RJJ can. It should be interesting at least. I can't believe people saying that they have no interest in this fight whatsoever. There aren't many trilogies out there and this one has potential to be a great. Juts the potential of it has me excited enough to see it.

Tha_Greatest
07-26-2005, 07:38 PM
I just hope that Roy has one last great fight in him...
Im hoping Roy wins cause its great for boxing, Roy Jones back in it, but i cant see it,boxing needs a warrior like Roy back in the mix

You got a cool ass avatar image, and thats THE TRUTH


http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/image.php?u=8215&dateline=1122405979

Truth
07-26-2005, 07:38 PM
I'm glad to see RJJ giving it one more shot. Even if he doesn't win, I hope it at least goes the distance. He has to redeam himself after those last couple of KO's. I know if anyone can do it, RJJ can. It should be interesting at least. I can't believe people saying that they have no interest in this fight whatsoever. There aren't many trilogies out there and this one has potential to be a great. Juts the potential of it has me excited enough to see it.

I agree...its good Roy is giving it one last shot...

King Jaffe Joffer
07-26-2005, 07:43 PM
What do you guys think the betting lines would be? Roy Jones first time underdog in his career???

rocco1252
07-26-2005, 08:45 PM
The biggest problem with Roy Jones Jr is he is skeptical upon fighting again anyway just because of what happened. If he should return in just as good of shape as he was before then there should be no worries with him fighting Tarver again. He is super fast but with age all fighters tend to lose reflexes, Tarver is no different. Jones got hit with a good punch that knocked him out on 2 ocassions it happens, you all have to remember before that he was going down as the top pound for pound fighter in the past 30 years and everyone loved him, now that he lost 2 you all hate him. He can beat Tarver any day of the week he just got hit good a couple of times. The fight should happen, I hope it happens and I will be there when it happens!

reebox8225
07-26-2005, 11:15 PM
I am praying they have this fight in Memphis if so I'm there, screw Vegas, they get every big fight.

AIR_KENG
07-26-2005, 11:51 PM
I don't want to see this fight, should it happen.
Roy is damaged goods. I picture him cringing any time a Tarver punch approaches him, & with good reason. Roy is now open to big punches, he cannot absorb them, & is at a tremendous mental disadvantage against a guy who already dusted him.
come on guys... it's all about redemption... he gave tarver a second chance before, give him his... if losses this one, then i'll say he is done...

Manny_P
07-26-2005, 11:54 PM
only time will tell on that one...


wanna bet on that one? send me a message if you want. But then again, you'll lose again and I' would have to laugh at yo ass again, nyahahahahaha!

Tha Greatest
07-26-2005, 11:54 PM
Mismatch at its finest...

The Fix
07-27-2005, 01:55 AM
I was hoping they'd do this in Memphis, and I fully planned on going :(
i honestly dont care where it is cause iam going to see roy jones last fight win or lose.

im hoping for vegas cause that atmosphere is unmatched

TKODoll
07-27-2005, 02:48 AM
roy's best days are so far behind him. i se no real motivation for him to get in that ring. he's got a wife and kids

Roy isn't married.

TKODoll
07-27-2005, 03:33 AM
I see Jones winning this fight by decision.

outofline
07-27-2005, 03:59 AM
I like jones winning a UD over tarver. conditioning will be a major factor to him. then a rematch with glencoffe after he disposed off tarver and retire. a man's got to try, i guess.

Truth
07-27-2005, 10:40 AM
Roy isn't married.

Yeah he is, on MTV Cribs he showed his wife and kids while showing his house.

jack_the_rippuh
07-27-2005, 10:43 AM
Is his wife fine, would you hit it?

Truth
07-27-2005, 10:44 AM
Is his wife fine, would you hit it?

I think she was decent, I forgot what she looked like it was a while ago. :D LOL

jack_the_rippuh
07-27-2005, 10:46 AM
Anyone want to help me spam the pictures of Owned fighters thread with pictures of Owned fighters?

Truth
07-27-2005, 10:47 AM
Anyone want to help me spam the pictures of Owned fighters thread with pictures of Owned fighters?

Im in ness...