in a fight that was dominated by jirov moorer pulls off the ko. any one else see the fight. any thoughts?

man that was a good left

Michael did it. I started rooting for him after Jirov was using his head in a way that would emberass Holyfield.

yea what a moron at least punch instead of leaning in trying to headbutt like a *****

Michael did it. I started rooting for him after Jirov was using his head in a way that would emberass Holyfield.


**** I just lost a lot of pts ! :(

Yeah, Jirov is just not a big puncher and Moorer took a beating and his best shots and finally started landing and that was it. Jirov almost looked like a less rediculous version of Zab Judah in the Zoo fight when he tried to get up.

Jirov should have stayed on a knee for an 8 count. What a shot by Moorer though, a nice delayed reaction from Jirov.

Jirov should have stayed on a knee for an 8 count. What a shot by Moorer though, a nice delayed reaction from Jirov.


to the face or the body ?

man that was a good left



....It didn't even look like that much but it was about the fourth or fifth punch that that was stiff in that sequence.

It was high on his head around the eyes. Maybe Jirov needs to go back down to cruiserweight.

it looked at first like jirov was unaffect and then the lights went out and he was on the canvas

in a fight thawt was dominated by jirov moorer pulls off the ko. any one else see the fight. any thoughts?

Great....It hasnt come on yet at my house. It comes on in an hour and a half...well, atleast I know it wont be too boring or anything

I dont think Jirov should be playing with the natural heavies. He doesn't have the power or the chin. Something tells me Toney might be getting nervous. ;)

I dont think Jirov should be playing with the natural heavies. He doesn't have the power or the chin. Something tells me Toney might be getting nervous. ;)



....Yeah that occured to me too. Toney was kind of appealing tonight in the prefight stuff. It seemed like he went out of his way to be less of a dick.

Great....It hasnt come on yet at my house. It comes on in an hour and a half...well, atleast I know it wont be too boring or anything



....why the hell are you on a delay? It was live and I would think it was live for everybody in the states.

OMG another upset for this year. :eek:


Can we still hope for a Jirov-Toney rematch?

I don't think this helps Moorer as much as FSN is trying to say it will. He was getting dominated throughout most of the fight and if Jirov didn't get brave we would of probably been talking about Jirov right now. This was a good win for Moorer but he still has a way to go to get back into the title picture.

....why the hell are you on a delay? It was live and I would think it was live for everybody in the states.

I dont know. When I had direct tv, I had like 8 different fox sports net channels (north, south, west, etc..) and could watch the Sunday Night Fight when I wanted. Now with comcast I only have one, and its called Fox Sports South. Uh-oh, I just thought of something else...I may have been busy with my kid and missed it and that 11 pm is the replay! :o Ah man...how stupid! I just bet thats what happened...glad theres replays! :eek:

Mesi should be the nervous one,lol. :eek:

Great....It hasnt come on yet at my house. It comes on in an hour and a half...well, atleast I know it wont be too boring or anything

man i am sorry i told you the outcome. it is a good fight imo. it was wierd watching him go down a few secs after the punch like that.

why isn't he out from a blood clot or something

man i am sorry i told you the outcome. it is a good fight imo. it was wierd watching him go down a few secs after the punch like that.

Thats okay...and its my fault. When I glanced at the thread title, I thought it said Moorer vs. Jirov (or something like that) ..I didnt notice the big, fat KO til it was too late! :D No biggie..now I know when NOT to go to the bathroom, etc.. ;)

I don't think this helps Moorer as much as FSN is trying to say it will. He was getting dominated throughout most of the fight and if Jirov didn't get brave we would of probably been talking about Jirov right now. This was a good win for Moorer but he still has a way to go to get back into the title picture.

so true. another thing to talk about is that the top heavies would haqve murderized moorer.

Thats okay...and its my fault. When I glanced at the thread title, I thought it said Moorer vs. Jirov (or something like that) ..I didnt notice the big, fat KO til it was too late! :D No biggie..now I know when NOT to go to the bathroom, etc.. ;)

lol you're a trip. alot of activity in this fight. one to see for sure.

jirovs loss makes james toney look real suspect. james toney has beaten jirov,holyfield and rydell booker in his last three. it really makes you wonder what james can actually do because his latest opposistion looks really sub-par

lol you're a trip. alot of activity in this fight. one to see for sure.

Nice!! Looking forward to it :D By morning there will be no one to discuss it with cause all of you are doing that now! :( It will be old news by then!

Nice!! Looking forward to it :D By morning there will be no one to discuss it with cause all of you are doing that now! :( It will be old news by then!

naw i'll discuss it with ya! ;)

jirovs loss makes james toney look real suspect. james toney has beaten jirov,holyfield and rydell booker in his last three. it really makes you wonder what james can actually do because his latest opposistion looks really sub-par

you have a really good point there. i think jirov looked more impressive than moorer though. just his chin couldn't hold up against moorer.

naw i'll discuss it with ya! ;)

gee thanks buddy! :D I love talking the sport and thats why I come to this site since none of my friends like boxing. Stupid girls....dont realize what theyre missing! ;) Other than doing stuff with my daugher theres nothing I'd rather do than watch a great fight!! :) Many thanks for humoring me and I'll hold ya to it

But now everybody is saying MM is back. C'mon he look horrible throughout the fight. He cought Jirov with one shot and now all of a sudden he is a dominate force in the heavy division.

well this was a spoiler for me , :( hehe it dont come on for me till 1 hour. Oh well :D

But now everybody is saying MM is back. C'mon he look horrible throughout the fight. He cought Jirov with one shot and now all of a sudden he is a dominate force in the heavy division.
any top 5 heavy can dominate him.

any top 5 heavy can dominate him.


exactly, Jirov needs to go back down to cruiser and dominate, he gave a very valiant shot at Heavy, his body just cant do it. Moorer is garbage. Any top 20 heavy will clean his clock. he looked like **** in this fight until that one punch.

What is up with Michael Moorer? Ok so he knocks out Jirov who really wasn't a huge threat to begin with. Does this make Moorer a possible threat to the Heavyweight hiarchy? I say no. Moorer coming in at a fat 247 tells me that he is still having motivation problems that have plagued him throughout his career. In order to compete with the top he needs to get himself back into tip top form. What is your opinion, do you honestly think he could take on some of the divisions top fighters coming in looking like a walking endorsement for Krispy Kreme Donuts?

no moorer looked liek crap even with the ko

no moorer looked liek crap even with the ko



i agree, his physique tells me he really doesn't care about boxin. He's had a history of lack of motivation his whole career, so why does he even bother.

So could this set up a toney - moorer fight,
perfect for toney.
he fights a heavy with a name but doesnt have to risk
the big guys , v-klit , ruiz , byrd , golota , brewster
and any other contenders like rahman and meehan.

Moorer gets a shot at a name too and will improve his
chances of a title shot with a win.

So could this set up a toney - moorer fight,
perfect for toney.
he fights a heavy with a name but doesnt have to risk
the big guys , v-klit , ruiz , byrd , golota , brewster
and any other contenders like rahman and meehan.

Moorer gets a shot at a name too and will improve his
chances of a title shot with a win.

that might be a good fight. but i would be more interested in moorer actually taking it seriously and stepping up his game. he has alot of potential. toney would prolly win if they fight. they can both be very dangerous.

**** I just lost a lot of pts ! :(Lost some of what you gave me on that too, pal!

Good thing Jirov is the bigger loooooooooosssssssser! At least that's how I see him. :)

First Toney; now, Moorer! Hey, anyone, don't get Jirov near any old folks' home! :eek:

Or, Vander, meet Jirov! ;)

I don't think it was just one punch that took Jirov out. Although Jirov was winning throughout most of the match, each time Moorer hit Jirov on the face, Jirov's head snapped back, almost every time. During the 9th round, Jirov for some reason kept moving towards Moorer with his gloves really low. Initially, I thought he did that because he was going for the KO and Moorer's punches weren't having an effect, but then Jirov was getting a little wobbled during those last few exchanges. He either needs to work on his defense, and/or move down a weight class.

good win for moorer

I don't think it was just one punch that took Jirov out. Although Jirov was winning throughout most of the match, each time Moorer hit Jirov on the face, Jirov's head snapped back, almost every time. During the 9th round, Jirov for some reason kept moving towards Moorer with his gloves really low. Initially, I thought he did that because he was going for the KO and Moorer's punches weren't having an effect, but then Jirov was getting a little wobbled during those last few exchanges. He either needs to work on his defense, and/or move down a weight class.

his gloves prolly felt like 100lb sand bags. thats why he dropped his guard. he was getting tired and couldn't hold them up.

It was high on his head around the eyes. Maybe Jirov needs to go back down to cruiserweight.

Thats what I kept thinking while the fight was going on...he was better at that weight and isnt really use to the power some heavy wts. have. He did very good and other than one or two rd's I had him outboxing Moorer til he got caught. I didnt think he was gonna go down at first, but it was definately a delayed reaction :eek:

Thats what I kept thinking while the fight was going on...he was better at that weight and isnt really use to the power some heavy wts. have. He did very good and other than one or two rd's I had him outboxing Moorer til he got caught. I didnt think he was gonna go down at first, but it was definately a delayed reaction :eek:

Jirov can dominate at cruiserweight. I think he went up to heavyweight in search of bigger paydays. I guess that's not going to happen now.

Jirov can dominate at cruiserweight. I think he went up to heavyweight in search of bigger paydays. I guess that's not going to happen now.

i understand the bigger payday, but like you said, that probably wont happen. We know at curiser he'll get fights, so that money would be better than none at all I'd say!

his gloves prolly felt like 100lb sand bags. thats why he dropped his guard. he was getting tired and couldn't hold them up.

It's possible, but if I were tired I wouldn't keep the distance so close between myself and the other fighter.

in a fight that was dominated by jirov moorer pulls off the ko. any one else see the fight. any thoughts?


i only have one thought about this... ****! now i'm glad TSN didn't carry the fight. SoundT, i'm gonna start calling you Nostradamus

It's possible, but if I were tired I wouldn't keep the distance so close between myself and the other fighter.

why is that impossible? it happens to EVERY [/B] fighter. the distance issue was so he could lean on him. maybe not but the way jirov fights, coming forward, doesn't work when you have to drop your guard because your arms are too tired to keep your gloves up.

why is that impossible? it happens to EVERY [/B] fighter. the distance issue was so he could lean on him. maybe not but the way jirov fights, coming forward, doesn't work when you have to drop your guard because your arms are too tired to keep your gloves up.

Please reread my post. I didn't utter the word "impossible".

Just when we though that we have a very good incoming fighter something happens . . . .DAMN . . . there goes Jirov.

good win for moorer

Yup I agree.

I thought it was a very entertaining fight. Jirov looked very

impressive in the early rounds to round 7, peppering Moorer's

face with the jab and hitting him with tough body shots. After

Jirov got cut he stopped using the jab and Moorer came to life.

When Moorer finally got on the offensive in the 8 and 9th rounds

he looked very sharp and punches found a home on Jirov's jaw!

I was impressed with Moorer's defense and movement in the early

rounds but I was unimpressed with his lack of offense. Overall,

a very entertaining fight with two sort-of big name fighters.

The only thing I thought was bad about the broadcast is Tom

Arnold's stupidity. Why on earth would they show him scoring a

boxing match when he doesn't know the first thing about boxing.

I thought it was a very entertaining fight. Jirov looked very

impressive in the early rounds to round 7, peppering Moorer's

face with the jab and hitting him with tough body shots. After

Jirov got cut he stopped using the jab and Moorer came to life.

When Moorer finally got on the offensive in the 8 and 9th rounds

he looked very sharp and punches found a home on Jirov's jaw!

I was impressed with Moorer's defense and movement in the early

rounds but I was unimpressed with his lack of offense. Overall,

a very entertaining fight with two sort-of big name fighters.

The only thing I thought was bad about the broadcast is Tom

Arnold's stupidity. Why on earth would they show him scoring a

boxing match when he doesn't know the first thing about boxing.

finally! I was waiting to see if anyone else had a problem with Arnolds 'techniques'. He apparently tries to score fights the way theyre "supposed" to be scored by the judges (that what he says anyway) and he did the same thing during the Toney-Booker fight. I understand what he's getting at, just dont necessairly agree with him, and he's yet to say anything that made me think he knows much about the sport! I also thought his comment "I'm going with the white guy" was a bit crude, and if it had been anyone else at all that had said that alot of hell would have been raised.

[what he's getting at, just dont necessairly agree with him, and he's yet to say anything that made me think he knows much about the sport! I also thought his comment "I'm going with the white guy" was a bit crude, and if it had been anyone else at all that had said that alot of hell would have been raised.[/QUOTE]

That was a pretty retarded comment especially since he was sitting next to 3 big African-American guys(Toney,Byrd,Sally)What a effing buffon Arnold is! :mad: I think the only reason why they have the guys from BDSSP is that they attract their viewers to watch the boxing broadcasts. Other than that I would much rather see Sean O'Grady and his partner(dont know his name) do the whole fight and maybe also Max Kellerman.

[what he's getting at, just dont necessairly agree with him, and he's yet to say anything that made me think he knows much about the sport! I also thought his comment "I'm going with the white guy" was a bit crude, and if it had been anyone else at all that had said that alot of hell would have been raised.

That was a pretty retarded comment especially since he was sitting next to 3 big African-American guys(Toney,Byrd,Sally)What a effing buffon Arnold is! :mad: I think the only reason why they have the guys from BDSSP is that they attract their viewers to watch the boxing broadcasts. Other than that I would much rather see Sean O'Grady and his partner(dont know his name) do the whole fight and maybe also Max Kellerman.[/QUOTE]

I agree...I've never been a fan of Tom Arnold anyway, and having to sit for 35-40 min's and listen to the opinions of someone that knows less about the sport than I do is not my idea of "good boxing coverage" :rolleyes: The other guy I think is Barry Tompkins (or something like that) and they may not be as high class as HBO and Sho..but I've always liked them just fine. Having Grady (and ex-champ) commentate compared to Arnold (an ex-actor..possibly an ex-jock??), I'd say Grady is more knowledgabe of the sport and the way it all works, etc.. so I prefer him anyday! ;)

Please reread my post. I didn't utter the word "impossible".

sorry dude your right i was tired whe i read it. jirov wanted to keep the pressure on even though his hands were tired. it was definately not a good idea.

I thought it was a very entertaining fight. Jirov looked very

impressive in the early rounds to round 7, peppering Moorer's

face with the jab and hitting him with tough body shots. After

Jirov got cut he stopped using the jab and Moorer came to life.

When Moorer finally got on the offensive in the 8 and 9th rounds

he looked very sharp and punches found a home on Jirov's jaw!

I was impressed with Moorer's defense and movement in the early

rounds but I was unimpressed with his lack of offense. Overall,

a very entertaining fight with two sort-of big name fighters.

The only thing I thought was bad about the broadcast is Tom

Arnold's stupidity. Why on earth would they show him scoring a

boxing match when he doesn't know the first thing about boxing.


thats very close to the way i saw it. tom arnold should stick to movies and stay away from boxing. at least i can choose not to see a movie but i'll be darned if i'll miss the fight!