View Full Version : why does margarito have a date on showtime against a no name opponent?


zabkillsspinks
07-24-2005, 05:06 PM
well he obviously didnt want mayweather to bad. he could have fought him on nov.12 and it would have been easy since arum promotes them both. now hes taking joshua clottey on? ok people talk about judah fighting mitchell? why no bad talk about this fight. also mitchell is a lot better than anyone tony has ever fought much less beaten. yeah he fought santos who isnt on mitchells level and thats his best opponent and what happened? he lost. showtime is really going down hill with their fights. is stupid enough that they are determined to only put one card on the first of the month but at least make them good. margarito doesnt deserve to be main event unless its against a big name fighter that will beat him.

zabkillsspinks
07-24-2005, 05:55 PM
oh shocking that no one has anything to say about this. yeah lets complaing about judah fighting mitchell but not margarito fighting clottey.

MetalVomit
07-24-2005, 05:57 PM
Judah's got mad haters, so obviously thats why no one is talking about this, I havent heard **** about Margarito since he owned Cintron. No response also may have something to do with your temper bro :)

IwatchBoxing
07-24-2005, 05:57 PM
Margarito fights bums, wow, I'm shocked. :D

abdiel2k3
07-24-2005, 06:01 PM
Margarito fights bums, wow, I'm shocked. :D
i know
its like tito all over again

Sir_Jose
07-24-2005, 06:02 PM
Margarito fights bums, wow, I'm shocked. :D


Like Cintron and Santos?

People complain about Judah because he IS THE CHAMPION. No way should the champiopn be fighting guys like Cosmo Rivera, Wayne Martell and Rafeal Pineada.

Don King is keeping Judah out of harms way before he can sacrafice him for a big pay day.

IwatchBoxing
07-24-2005, 06:03 PM
i know
its like tito all over again
Yeah, cause really DLH, Campas, and Vargas were really abunch of bums.

zabkillsspinks
07-24-2005, 06:05 PM
Like Cintron and Santos?

People complain about Judah because he IS THE CHAMPION. No way should the champiopn be fighting guys like Cosmo Rivera, Wayne Martell and Rafeal Pineada.

Don King is keeping Judah out of harms way before he can sacrafice him for a big pay day.


ok well judah only had the titles when he fought cosme and he was a mandatory. judah said he was gonna keep all belts b/c if he didnt people would go and get them and then claim to be champ and they would never fight him and that would be their excuse. so that way no one can get a belt or belts unless they fight and beat zab.

like cintron who was so overrated and got stunned and hurt by teddy "itelegraph everything" reid, and he fought santos, and so what cause he didnt beat him so the fact that you brought that up means nothing.

Sir_Jose
07-24-2005, 06:07 PM
Yeah, cause really DLH, Campas, and Vargas were really abunch of bums.


No but everyone he fought from 1995-1999 were

Roger Turner
Larry Barnes
Rodney Moore
Freddie Pendleton
Ray Lovato
Kevin Lueshing
Troy Waters
Mahenge Zulu
Hugo Pineda


Please dont even try and tell me how he fought Whitaker cause Whitaker was so badly washed up it wasn't even funny hell he was even coming off a year long suspension for cocaine.

How come he wasn't looking for a fight with Whitaker in 1994? or what about Quartey? Jose Luis Lopez? or Vernon Forrest?

Sir_Jose
07-24-2005, 06:09 PM
ok well judah only had the titles when he fought cosme and he was a mandatory. judah said he was gonna keep all belts b/c if he didnt people would go and get them and then claim to be champ and they would never fight him and that would be their excuse. so that way no one can get a belt or belts unless they fight and beat zab.

like cintron who was so overrated and got stunned and hurt by teddy "itelegraph everything" reid, and he fought santos, and so what cause he didnt beat him so the fact that you brought that up means nothing.


He did beat Santos and only hardcore nuthuggers are the ones who think he lost.

Fighting mandatories is a nice way of saying im avoiding fights with DLH, Mosley, Margarito, Floyd and a million other gusyw ho would bring much higher paydays and be 10x more dangerous.

IwatchBoxing
07-24-2005, 06:10 PM
No but everyone he fought from 1995-1999 were

Roger Turner
Larry Barnes
Rodney Moore
Freddie Pendleton
Ray Lovato
Kevin Lueshing
Troy Waters
Mahenge Zulu
Hugo Pineda
Please dont even try and tell me how he fought Whitaker cause Whitaker was so badly washed up it wasn't even funny hell he was even coming off a year long suspension for cocaine.
How come he wasn't looking for a fight with Whitaker in 1994? or what about Quartey? Jose Luis Lopez? or Vernon Forrest?
sure, Whitaker was on coke just like Chavez won the Taylor fight, and maybe he didnt fight those guys cause he was bussy KOing the best, ever thought of that?

IwatchBoxing
07-24-2005, 06:11 PM
He did beat Santos and only hardcore nuthuggers are the ones who think he lost.

Fighting mandatories is a nice way of saying im avoiding fights with DLH, Mosley, Margarito, Floyd and a million other gusyw ho would bring much higher paydays and be 10x more dangerous.
Coming from a Chavez nuthugger that hurt alot. ;)

zabkillsspinks
07-24-2005, 06:11 PM
No but everyone he fought from 1995-1999 were

Roger Turner
Larry Barnes
Rodney Moore
Freddie Pendleton
Ray Lovato
Kevin Lueshing
Troy Waters
Mahenge Zulu
Hugo Pineda


Please dont even try and tell me how he fought Whitaker cause Whitaker was so badly washed up it wasn't even funny hell he was even coming off a year long suspension for cocaine.

How come he wasn't looking for a fight with Whitaker in 1994? or what about Quartey? Jose Luis Lopez? or Vernon Forrest?


quit trying to put this on tito its about margaritos terrible opponent on oct.1

also yeah tito fought some bums but he also beat a lot of good fighters.

dlh, vargas, campas when he was undefeated, blocker, joppy, mayorga, reid who he ruined. margarito hasnt beaten anyone as good as any of them except maybe you could say six head lewis is better than blocker and thats it, and six heads had nothing by then from the mayorga fight.

Sir_Jose
07-24-2005, 06:14 PM
quit trying to put this on tito its about margaritos terrible opponent on oct.1

also yeah tito fought some bums but he also beat a lot of good fighters.

dlh, vargas, campas when he was undefeated, blocker, joppy, mayorga, reid who he ruined. margarito hasnt beaten anyone as good as any of them except maybe you could say six head lewis is better than blocker and thats it, and six heads had nothing by then from the mayorga fight.


I love the shameless contradictions from you.

Saying how Margarito lost to Santos to try and strenghten your argument, but turning around claiming Tito beat DLH. Two contraversial fights, but one you have no problem with?

Margaritop is only fighting him cause your boy is to concerned with fighting a washed up Jr Welterweight. But yeah he has to fight Mitchel cause he'll get his belts taken away if he dont...Oh wait.

zabkillsspinks
07-24-2005, 06:14 PM
He did beat Santos and only hardcore nuthuggers are the ones who think he lost.

Fighting mandatories is a nice way of saying im avoiding fights with DLH, Mosley, Margarito, Floyd and a million other gusyw ho would bring much higher paydays and be 10x more dangerous.





yeah we all know how adored santos is. i mean hes the greatest ever people just ansolutely love him they wont shut up about him will they? no nuthugger fans of santos exist and btw the fight could have been scored a draw, or santos, or tony it was very close.

also tony got hit and hurt by santos whos not fast or powerful so what would zab or mosley do to him who are much faster and stronger? AGAIN THIS IS ABOUT MARGARITO FIGHTING CLOTTEY WHICH YOU HAVE YET TO RESPOND TO.

Sir_Jose
07-24-2005, 06:15 PM
sure, Whitaker was on coke just like Chavez won the Taylor fight, and maybe he didnt fight those guys cause he was bussy KOing the best, ever thought of that?


KO'ing what best? Im sorry did you not see that list I wrote down?

How on earth do you get Chavez/Taylor from Tito/Whitaker?

zabkillsspinks
07-24-2005, 06:16 PM
I love the shameless contradictions from you.

Saying how Margarito lost to Santos to try and strenghten your argument, but turning around claiming Tito beat DLH. Two contraversial fights, but one you have no problem with?

Margaritop is only fighting him cause your boy is to concerned with fighting a washed up Jr Welterweight. But yeah he has to fight Mitchel cause he'll get his belts taken away if he dont...Oh wait.


IT WASNT CONTROVERSIAL CAUSE DLH RAN FOR HALF THE FIGHT. YOU CANT WIN ROUNDS RUNNING UNLESS ITS SPINKS-MAYORGA.

IwatchBoxing
07-24-2005, 06:16 PM
KO'ing what best? Im sorry did you not see that list I wrote down?

How on earth do you get Chavez/Taylor from Tito/Whitaker?
Bro, last time I checked this was a Margarito thread. ;)
You went off topic.

$$$Pinky$$$
07-24-2005, 06:19 PM
That Messican boy Margarito aint duckin nobody. I met the kid a couple of times he got some pimpin blood in him. He aint scared of no Pretty Boy or some wanna be super ass mf.
NOW SAY SOMETHING ELSE!

mic573
07-24-2005, 06:21 PM
Margarito is fighting Clottey because no one wanted to fight him. He tried to make the Mayweather fight but Floyd wanted to fight Wright. Now that the Wright fight is a no deal the Margarito camp says that Mayweather hasn't contacted them about a fight. He wanted to fight Judah as well but I don't think Margarito was ever on Judah's radar.

zabkillsspinks
07-24-2005, 06:21 PM
That Messican boy Margarito aint duckin nobody. I met the kid a couple of times he got some pimpin blood in him. He aint scared of no Pretty Boy or some wanna be super ass mf.
NOW SAY SOMETHING ELSE!

the facts i made to start the post contradict what you said.

Sir_Jose
07-24-2005, 06:22 PM
Bro, last time I checked this was a Margarito thread. ;)
You went off topic.


ahhhh wahts a matter you dont want to talk about Tito no more?

That was easier than I thought it would be.

Tha_Greatest
07-24-2005, 06:23 PM
Margarito fights bums, wow, I'm shocked. :D
he did beat up, i said beat up Puerto Rican sensation ,who was a sensation in Puerto Rico, only in Puerto Rico, Kermit'The Frog"Cintron ,I mean the killer'Cintron even though Margarito looked like he killed Cintron, i guess your right,Kermit is a bum, Margarito fights bums


How bout Puerto Rican sensation John' The BORING Man 'Ruiz

and did you watch the last 2 sensational big fight Trinidad had,Hopkins and Wright, Trinidad put on a show, Trinidad was spectacular, he shold move up and fight Stevo From Jackass

Sir_Jose
07-24-2005, 06:23 PM
IT WASNT CONTROVERSIAL CAUSE DLH RAN FOR HALF THE FIGHT. YOU CANT WIN ROUNDS RUNNING UNLESS ITS SPINKS-MAYORGA.


half the fight? How many rounds are in a championship fight?

Last I checked there were 12 rounds, 4 is not half of 12....at least I dont think it is. maybe I could be wrong.

I dont know you tell me. Is 4 half of 12?

zabkillsspinks
07-24-2005, 06:24 PM
Wtf Is With All The Excuses For Margarito A Decent Fighter? Judah Fights Mitchell Who Is Ten Times Better Than Clottey And Gets Criticized, And Tony Fights A Complete Bum And Its Judah And Mayweathers Fault? Who Really Thinks He Has A Chance Against Either Of Them. He Has No Speed Or Defense Or Accuracy And He Would Be Fighting 2 Of The Most Skilled Fighters In Boxing. Hmmmmm Thats A Tough One To Call.

IwatchBoxing
07-24-2005, 06:25 PM
ahhhh wahts a matter you dont want to talk about Tito no more?

That was easier than I thought it would be.
Jose, its alittle too early to be drinking. Margarito fights bums, has fought alot of bums, his only two big fights, two Puerto Ricans, one stomped on him, and another was a prospect, lets clap for him. :wave:

zabkillsspinks
07-24-2005, 06:25 PM
half the fight? How many rounds are in a championship fight?

Last I checked there were 12 rounds, 4 is not half of 12....at least I dont think it is. maybe I could be wrong.

I dont know you tell me. Is 4 half of 12?

HE ALSO RAN IN ROUNDS 5 AND 7 OR 6 AND 7 SO AT LEAST 6 ROUND SHE RAN./

$$$Pinky$$$
07-24-2005, 06:33 PM
the facts i made to start the post contradict what you said.
What did say? say it again!! common I dare you!!!Aint no facts in Pinky's house.

MetalVomit
07-24-2005, 06:34 PM
Margarito fights bums, wow, I'm shocked. :D


Yeah, Margarito has been fighting bums, your shocked? Did you miss the Cintron fight? Antonio needs to step up.

mic573
07-24-2005, 06:34 PM
Wtf Is With All The Excuses For Margarito A Decent Fighter? Judah Fights Mitchell Who Is Ten Times Better Than Clottey And Gets Criticized, And Tony Fights A Complete Bum And Its Judah And Mayweathers Fault? Who Really Thinks He Has A Chance Against Either Of Them. He Has No Speed Or Defense Or Accuracy And He Would Be Fighting 2 Of The Most Skilled Fighters In Boxing. Hmmmmm Thats A Tough One To Call.

Then that's one of the main reasons Mayweather and Judah should fight him. I would favor both to beat Margarito but it's Margarito who has tried to make those fights happen not them.

Tha_Greatest
07-24-2005, 06:49 PM
Puerto Rican superstar, superstar of Puerto Rico Kermit the Frog i mean The Killer Cintron is the biggest bum anyone has mentioned since he got killed by Margarito. Judah, and Margarito are very good fighters, they should fight

MetalVomit
07-24-2005, 06:50 PM
Margarito Gets October Showtime Date; Now Who Will Step up to Fight Him?
Photo & Article by -----

What do Floyd Mayweather, Winky Wright, Ricky Hatton, Shane Mosley, Alejandro Garcia, Diego Corrales, Jose Luis Castillo, Roman Karmazin, Fernando Vargas, Zab Judah and Antonio Margarito have in common?

They have all either looked impressive or had a good win in their latest outings this year.

Mayweather shut down and stopped Arturo Gatti to capture the WBC super lightweight title last month. After a possible fight with Winky Wright was aborted this week, Mayweather can always work out something in order to battle the world recognized top dog in the 140-pound division in one Ricky ''The Hitman'' Hatton.

zabkillsspinks
07-24-2005, 07:19 PM
Then that's one of the main reasons Mayweather and Judah should fight him. I would favor both to beat Margarito but it's Margarito who has tried to make those fights happen not them.

I can remember maybe twice him calling them out other than that zab immediately called him oput after the cintron fight calling him one dimensional, mayweather i dont think has called him out. mayweather and judah have so many more tougher and bigger money fights. this guy does not deserve the shot as much as people claim so much. his best win is six heads and other good wins are antonio diaz and cintron and thats it. thats the only good fighters hes beat.

mic573
07-24-2005, 07:25 PM
Just recently before the talks about the Wright fight began Mayweather said that he would move up to fight Margarito. Since then Mayweather hasn't mentioned him so Margarito said he is moving on.

Roberto ROLDAN
07-28-2005, 12:55 PM
HAHAA Tony Margarito could kick the **** out of anyone in the 147 pounds and if mayweather wants to try some mexican punching he will get it and will get knocked out!

{BrownBomber}
07-28-2005, 01:30 PM
HAHAA Tony Margarito could kick the **** out of anyone in the 147 pounds and if mayweather wants to try some mexican punching he will get it and will get knocked out!
Margarito is a bigger version of Castillo,(not as good but same type style) I dont think Floyd would want any more controversal wins on his record.Im not saying Mayweather cant win but this is a very tough fight for him.Margarito does have the power to ko floyd but the problem would be catching floyd.floyd's defense is the best in the business and his offense is great also but againts a guy like Margarito his offense will have to be second.

Roberto ROLDAN
07-28-2005, 04:35 PM
floyd does have a good defence but that wont be enough to cover himself from the mexican power.