Am i the only one that thought that the jirov fight was stopped before jirov had a chance to fight back? It seems to me that he stood up too fast and so he wobbled but that by the time he walked to the ref he was as close to perfectly balanced as is humanly possible.

I think his only mistake was his pride. He wanted to show that he was not hurt and the ref did not buy it.

Am i the only one that thought that the jirov fight was stopped before jirov had a chance to fight back? It seems to me that he stood up too fast and so he wobbled but that by the time he walked to the ref he was as close to perfectly balanced as is humanly possible.


Honestly, he did not look ready to continue; I may be wrong though; ...

but Tiger will come back. ;)

I think jirov made the mistake of getting up so quick like judah did...jirov looked in bad shape but when the ref told him to walk forward jirov looked alittle better..i wish the ref would have gave jirov 10 more seconds to try to fight

i missed the fight
but since u think it was early
im guess you guys had some points riden on this fight

didnt be ton this fihgt but had a feeling Jirov wold be wasted in late rounds and lose

anyway when i first saw it..i did think it was a fast stop, but when you see it in replay he was slipping and didnt have balance...see what u get when u pull a judah and get up to fast...and thats not pride..thats stupidity....there no shame to stay down until 8 so u can get ur self under control...it wont change that u were KD if u get up fast

I think it was a wrong stoppage.

the ref should have stopped it when Vasili first got up and wobbled back

not after he asked him to come forward and Vasili did so

bendy knees or no, he should have been given the benefit because his head was clear not his knees

His head was on and he raised his hands to show he could fight on.

When the ref asked him to come forward and he did and then he waived it off

i said to myself WTF? :confused:

why ask a fighter to walk forward and stop it,


Not saying Moorer wouldn't have a good chance to finish it

but Jirov could have survived the round and hey who knows
he could have run the rest of the way and perhaps win

although that is not in his nature.

It would have been irresponsible for the ref to let the fight continue. He looked in Jirov's eyes before stopping it.

Jirov was doing the white boy version of the Judah shuffle.

It would have been irresponsible for the ref to let the fight continue. He looked in Jirov's eyes before stopping it.

Jirov was doing the white boy version of the Judah shuffle.


what where did you get that stupid comparison from

he got up fell back on the ropes and then raised his arms and walked towards the ref

i must have missed the part where he got up his legs gave way and he seemed to resemble a chicken and fell back down to the canvas, head first

i missed the fight
but since u think it was early
im guess you guys had some points riden on this fight

Damn I was so pi** because I went to bed at 5:00PM only to wake up two hours later to watch the live taping and FSN has no sound. So I went back to sleep and watched the 11:00PM replay. I think they'll show it again this morning at 6:00AM (Chicago time) and again at 8:00PM.

Anyway I too think it was stop too early. He was still wobbling, but I've seen worse before. If it wasn't stop, I say he has about 50% to make it through the remaining of the round. He was leading the score cards on all judges. But he made a big mistake by getting up too fast. But it can't be help, it happened many times before.

Good point, the fight might of been stopped prematurely. Back in the old days, when the likes of Sugar Ray Robinson , JAke La Motta were around, you had to be almost knocked out cold or KO'd snoring. If that were the case, the fight would went longer, till one of the fighters were fully out on their feet.

AMateur boxing is a perfect example of stopping fights to easy. If an opponent has a bleeding nose, the ref can stop the bout, wouldn't that be a bummer if you fighting for gold and up on pts, when the ref stops bout due to a blood nose.

it wasnt stupidity that made jirov get up....it was his automatic reaction....like he said it was the first time hes been down that way and actually hurt and he just reacted. when u get knocked out like that its hard to actually think and process

i thought it was an ok stoppage

I think it was a wrong stoppage.

the ref should have stopped it when Vasili first got up and wobbled back

not after he asked him to come forward and Vasili did so

bendy knees or no, he should have been given the benefit because his head was clear not his knees

His head was on and he raised his hands to show he could fight on.

When the ref asked him to come forward and he did and then he waived it off

i said to myself WTF? :confused:

why ask a fighter to walk forward and stop it,


Not saying Moorer wouldn't have a good chance to finish it

but Jirov could have survived the round and hey who knows
he could have run the rest of the way and perhaps win

although that is not in his nature.

the ref made a good decision. he gave jirov the benefit of the doubt and let him take the full count. i don't know how long you have been watching boxing but the reason why they get them to walk forward is to see if they are still off balance. if they are, jirov was, then they should stop the fight. its for the saftey of the boxer. jirov still didn't have his legs. moorer smelled blood and would have put him right back on the canvas. the ref prevented jirov from the possibility of getting permanant damage. good call ref.

you say the ref made a good decision and
have a pic of george bus underneath.
are you trying to make some comparison?

you say the ref made a good decision and
have a pic of george bus underneath.
are you trying to make some comparison?

i was not making any comparisons. the pic is my sig so it is at the bottom of all my posts. but since you asked....yes the ref made a good decision. i love to see good fights but i would rather see a good ref think of the saftey of the men in hte ring. could jirov have gone on? prolly could have. for maybe 15 seconds more til moorer knocked him into tomorrow. o maybe he would have recovered, who knows. i like jirov and hope he comes back. i personally think he was the more skilled boxer in the ring. but i don't want to see any fighter get permanant damage.

i was not making any comparisons. the pic is my sig so it is at the bottom of all my posts. but since you asked....yes the ref made a good decision. i love to see good fights but i would rather see a good ref think of the saftey of the men in hte ring. could jirov have gone on? prolly could have. for maybe 15 seconds more til moorer knocked him into tomorrow. o maybe he would have recovered, who knows. i like jirov and hope he comes back. i personally think he was the more skilled boxer in the ring. but i don't want to see any fighter get permanant damage.
i wasnt questioning your judgement as ive not seen the fight.

i see its your sig now.. :D

i wasnt questioning your judgement as ive not seen the fight.

i see its your sig now.. :D

thats cool. you should check out the fight it's a good one imo.

might have a look for it on emule in a few days.

i just cant wait till sunday when ill check
boxingscenes round by round.

im glad rick decided to do it because we all were
going elsewhere to get it.

id love to rewatch jirov-toney and see mesi-jirov
for the first time. maybe even toney-holyfield

I watched the video tape on the foxsports website. The fight was stopped to early. No question. These are professionals, i've seen thousand worse knockdowns than this one, and the fights were allowed to continue. Bad decision.

I watched the video tape on the foxsports website. The fight was stopped to early. No question. These are professionals, i've seen thousand worse knockdowns than this one, and the fights were allowed to continue. Bad decision.


If you have seen that many knockdowns then you know Moorer would have sent him right back down with the very next punch, Jirov was out on his feet. Good stoppage by the Ref, and Jirov will live to fight another day....

If you have seen that many knockdowns then you know Moorer would have sent him right back down with the very next punch, Jirov was out on his feet. Good stoppage by the Ref, and Jirov will live to fight another day....
and jirov will live to lose another day.
name the fights hes got a name for and hes lost em all

Jirov didn't seem to complain about the stoppage. At first I thought it was early but he was clearly out of it. Looking at the replays his leg seemed to slightly give out again maybe that's what made the ref stop the fight.

After that performance, I cannot say that Michael Moorer is back because the truth of the matter is he was being beaten until that point by a cruiserweight and beaten soundly at that.

Jirov isn't a heavyweight..
Michael Moorer tamed the tiger.

If you have seen that many knockdowns then you know Moorer would have sent him right back down with the very next punch, Jirov was out on his feet. Good stoppage by the Ref, and Jirov will live to fight another day....


i sgree 100%. jirov didn't walk straight to him. thats exactly why they walk to them. to see if they can walk straight. jirov didn't hence the stoppage.

I just saw the clip. This was a premature stoppage. The fight could have went on.

Jirov could barely standup straight and you could tell right when he got up he was still out. If the ref let the fight continue it would have only lasted one more punch.

Jirov himself said he wasn't mad at the referee's decision to stop the fight.

I think Jirov needed to take 8 or 9 seconds before finally trying to stand up. He tried too quickly, when his legs were still gone. Too much pride in the Tiger.