With the possibility of facing Wladimir Klitschko in an IBF eliminator or Sinan Samil Sam in a WBC eliminator, heavyweight Sam Peter has challenged either one to step forward:

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"In my last television appearance, I asked the heavyweight division and the rest of the world, 'Who is Next?' Now I have a better question for both of the fighters who have been ordered by the WBC and IBF to fight elimination bouts with me: Who is man enough to fight me? Wladimir and Sinan, both of you have opportunities to meet me in the ring and try and prove you are the new mandatory challengers in two of boxing’s main sanctioning organizations, the WBC and IBF. It is my understanding that my promoter, Duva Boxing, has made significant offers to both of you to fight me in the very near future. I ask you to look the offers over carefully and please don’t try to hide behind your promoters or managers. Boxing fans around the world deserve to know who the next heavyweight king will be. Let’s settle this in the ring like honorable gentlemen. We are fighters and warriors and are supposed to fight the best to prove we are the best."
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--Samuel “The Nigerian Nightmare” Peter

I guess that puts to bed the notion of Peter "ducking" Wlad Klitschko.

Only extreme Wlad fans would've been claiming Peter was ducking Klitschko. Why would he have been calling Vitali out if he were scared of Wlad?

Its also funny that people give Wlad such a huge chance against Peter. Some even saying he'd destroy Peter. I'm not saying its not possible, Tarver vs. Jones 2 has proven that nothing is impossible, but highly ****ing improbable.

Mark my words Wlad will end Peter's career!!!

Mark my words Wlad will end Peter's career!!!

Peter McNeely's career has been over for quite a while.

Mark my words Wlad will end Peter's career!!!

what kinda sh*t is that man, doesnt sam peter have the ability and power to KO with both hands??? like a left and right handed person??? aint they special ??

I hope Sam fights Samil San first, knocks him out proving once and for all just how hard he punches (as Samil is very resilient), and then takes on Wlad in a higher profile fight.

I personally think Wlad somehow weasels out of the Peter fight really. He'll definitely say "well, Sam deserves to fight Peter first." Meanwhile, Wlad'll try getting out of the Peter fight. He knows Sam likely won't beat Peter, so Wlad might go after say John Ruiz or some **** instead.

I personally think Wlad somehow weasels out of the Peter fight really. He'll definitely say "well, Sam deserves to fight Peter first." Meanwhile, Wlad'll try getting out of the Peter fight. He knows Sam likely won't beat Peter, so Wlad might go after say John Ruiz or some **** instead.
Wlad will probably fight Brock

I personally think Wlad somehow weasels out of the Peter fight really. He'll definitely say "well, Sam deserves to fight Peter first." Meanwhile, Wlad'll try getting out of the Peter fight. He knows Sam likely won't beat Peter, so Wlad might go after say John Ruiz or some **** instead.


...In an article on ********* they are saying that Wlad/Brock is in negotiation for a possible fight on that September 24th date that was "supposed" to be Vitali's. Wlad wasn't named as Peter's box off partner until after Peter was talking about a fight for the top contender spot in the WBC in a fight with Sinan Sam. I would think those negotiations had started for that fight some time ago. Once again, who really knows what goes on with fight negotiations unless your in the room?

I think a fight between Wlad and Peter would be an awsome thing. I would have to give Wlad the edge. But in the end I dont think this fight will happen its high risk for both guys...

peter is more dangerous that brock, but brock is more skilled and should be rated higher off the win over mccline.... and really peter doesnt deserve to be in an eliminator off of beating nobodies....

...In an article on ********* they are saying that Wlad/Brock is in negotiation for a possible fight on that September 24th date that was "supposed" to be Vitali's. Wlad wasn't named as Peter's box off partner until after Peter was talking about a fight for the top contender spot in the WBC in a fight with Sinan Sam. I would think those negotiations had started for that fight some time ago. Once again, who really knows what goes on with fight negotiations unless your in the room?

Peter stayed at the same position in ratings when the IBF switched Wlad and Williamson. Cause when they put Williamson at #3 and Wlad at #4, in order to **** up Wlad's lawsuit (thank God, can't blame them), Peter was #5. I'm assuming they ordered Wlad vs. Peter because they were pissed at Wlad for the lawsuit. They haven't officially, at least on their site, changed Wlad from #4 or Peter from #5, or Williamson from #3.

Yeah I know they'd already mentioned Peter vs. Sam in the WBC. Peter just fought like 2-3 weeks ago so who knows how serious any talks with Sam had gotten at that point. There's no guarantee that the winner of Wlad vs. Peter would be #1 contender, cause they have both #1 and #2 listed as Not Rated. So they'll probably want another box off after Peter and Wlad fight for the #1 spot.

Logically it'd be Valuev (#6) vs. Williamson (#3), but IBF isn't too high on logic.

peter is more dangerous that brock, but brock is more skilled and should be rated higher off the win over mccline.... and really peter doesnt deserve to be in an eliminator off of beating nobodies....

And Wladimir does? Please.

wlad has beaten proven top heavyweights, peter has not, wlad is getting a bad name because of his bad losses, but when he's on his game he's still a terrific operator.

wlad has beaten proven top heavyweights, peter has not, wlad is getting a bad name because of his bad losses, but when he's on his game he's still a terrific operator.

You're talking about old news, fool. Who is the last top heavyweight Wlad beat?

And I know for a fact that they changed ****ing Moli's record. Cause when they first announced Wlad could be fighting that bum, I went on his record and the dude had losses in the double digits. Then, when it was official, I went back and the bum had like 2-3 losses.

he gave chris byrd a boxing lesson, no one else has ever done that to byrd.

You're talking about old news, fool. Who is the last top heavyweight Wlad beat?

And I know for a fact that they changed ****ing Moli's record. Cause when they first announced Wlad could be fighting that bum, I went on his record and the dude had losses in the double digits. Then, when it was official, I went back and the bum had like 2-3 losses.That's why drinking is illegal in most states until 21! That would explain your double vision! :D

he gave chris byrd a boxing lesson, no one else has ever done that to byrd.

And when was that? ****ing 2000 or so right? He has since been KTFO by Sanders and stopped against ****ing Brewster. Since Brewster, who the **** has Klitschko beat? Castillo? A blown up Cruiserweight? Williamson? The same guy that was KTFO in 1 round by ****ing Mesi? Ha, top guys for sure.

That's definitely call for a #1 ranking for the Heavyweight title. :rolleyes:

Hell, I would love for Wlad to fight Byrd now. Don't get me wrong. Even though he doesn't deserve it, I want him to get it. I'd rather see Peter beat his ass truthfully, but I'd take him vs. Byrd 2. That'd be fine by my watch.

That's definitely call for a #1 ranking for the Heavyweight title. :rolleyes:

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I wasn't saying he should be ranked anywhere near the top, i was just pointing out that he has beaten top fighters in the past, something which samuel peter has yet to to.

I think that Wlad would woop Peter's ass.

Unless, that is, Wlad's trainer betrayed him and rubbed vasiline all over his body. Or down King put something in the water (I am aware Don doesnt' promote Peter). Or his hands are just to fast. Or Wlad gets all diabetic and ****. Or Wlad gets cut.

Wlad = Only person will more Bull**** excuses than Tyson.

Peter is big puncher and he can knocking out any heavyweight fighter.

Peter is big puncher and he can knocking out any heavyweight fighter.Really?

I didn't know that :rolleyes:

I wasn't saying he should be ranked anywhere near the top, i was just pointing out that he has beaten top fighters in the past, something which samuel peter has yet to to.



Which has absolutly NOTHING to do with this current discussion.

You're trying to say that Peter doesn't deserve to be in an eliminator.

Well neither does Wlad Klitschko.

There's a lot of guys who beat top fighters 5 years ago.

Should they get shots at an eliminator?

Don't talk about Wlad's quality wins.

They occured LONG he was brutally KO'd by two poor fighters, and hasn't beaten anyone worth anything between or since.

They hold NO relevence in this conversation.

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Well neither does Wlad Klitschko.

There's a lot of guys who beat top fighters 5 years ago.
Don't talk about Wlad's quality wins.

and hasn't beaten anyone worth anything between or since.

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Ray Mercer [yes he was shot but still Ray mercer]
Jameel Mcline [legit top contender]
Danell Nicholson [decent top 10-15 fighter]
these wins all came within the last 3 years or so.
peter has not beaten any of those calibre opponents.

Ray Mercer [yes he was shot but still Ray mercer]
Jameel Mcline [legit top contender]
Danell Nicholson [decent top 10-15 fighter]
these wins all came within the last 3 years or so.
peter has not beaten any of those calibre opponents.


SINCE then, Wlad has been brutally knocked out by two fringe contenders.

You are really drawing at straws here.

With his undefeated streak, Peter is without question on par with Wlad at this point, who'd been brutally stopped twice in his last 6 fights (and is without a meaningful win inbetween or since).

There is no logic in saying Peter is undeserving of being in an eliminator, but Wlad is.

That's non sense.

right on Bozo. Wlad should fight peter and lose so that him being even acknowledged can finally come to an end. Wlad is shot and has had his jaw completely busted twice already. with a guy like peter who can hit ( and trust me I am not saying Peter is a great fighter) WLad wont last long. Neither Klitchko likes anyone who fires back at them. Remember Vitali backing away from featherfisted Burd when he threw punches back? or who can forget sanders turning WLad into jello pudding. when an opponent punches back and is not a hand picked runner/feinter, the Klitchkos dont like it.

SINCE then, Wlad has been brutally knocked out by two fringe contenders.

You are really drawing at straws here.

With his undefeated streak, Peter is without question on par with Wlad at this point, who'd been brutally stopped twice in his last 6 fights (and is without a meaningful win inbetween or since).

There is no logic in saying Peter is undeserving of being in an eliminator, but Wlad is.

That's non sense.
even with those two bad losses he still has beaten a huge amount of top/fringe fighters, that still has to be considered, a fighter can have a 100-0-0 record but unless he beats someone of note it means nothing.

even with those two bad losses he still has beaten a huge amount of top/fringe fighters, that still has to be considered, a fighter can have a 100-0-0 record but unless he beats someone of note it means nothing.


You don't know what you're talking about.

Sam is going to fight in an eliminator, Williamson is getting a title shot, yet according to you, Peter doesn't deserve it.

The part where you start to sound absolutly non sensical is where you start trying to assert that Peter doesn't deserve it, but Wlad Klitschko does.

You keep talking about things that happened BEFORE his KO losses.

Come off it.

There really is no criteria to get in an eliminator, and you're making a fuss for no reason.

....Boxrec now shows both Wlad/Brock and Peter/Sam as taking place on that sept 24th date at MSG. Looks like we will see both fights on the Cotto card then.

There really is no criteria to get in an eliminator, and you're making a fuss for no reason.
i still feel samuel peter hasn't beaten any top names to get an elimanator, at least brock beat mcline, and samil sam has beaten danny williams, peter has not even beat a fighter of danny williams's calibre yet [top15-20].

i still feel samuel peter hasn't beaten any top names to get an elimanator, at least brock beat mcline, and samil sam has beaten danny williams, peter has not even beat a fighter of danny williams's calibre yet [top15-20].


And in a world where Kali Meehan can fight for the WBO title, and Corrie Sanders gets sanctioned to fight for a vacent WBC title, Mo Harris fighting for the IBF title, you're outright wrong.

Yanqi Diaz was coming off a 1st round KO of JC Gomez and Peter battered him. Taurus Sykes was also a much better win than the likes of Eliseo Castillo.

Peter is ranked top 5 across the board by the IBF WBC and WBO.

You're crying into the wind here.

Yanqi Diaz was coming off a 1st round KO of JC Gomez and Peter battered him. .
that is a terrible example to use, diaz was a journey man who was at the right place at the right time, gomez was coming off a lay off, had personal problems, was unmotivated, and didn't take the fight seriously. he was a guy living off a freak win thats all.

that is a terrible example to use, diaz was a journey man who was at the right place at the right time


lol, you could say the same thing about Corrie Sanders, except he brutally stopped Wlad Klitschko.

See how that works?

You haven't done anything here but illustrate you have some sort of petty problem with Peter fighting for an eliminator (not a title) when guys MUCH WORSE have fought for TITLES.

lol, you could say the same thing about Corrie Sanders, except he brutally stopped Wlad Klitschko.

See how that works?

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you can't compare corrie sanders to diaz, corrie sanders is a legit top 10 heavyweight who has mixed it with the very best. we'll just have to agree to disagree.

you can't compare corrie sanders to diaz, corrie sanders is a legit top 10 heavyweight who has mixed it with the very best. we'll just have to agree to disagree.


Take a LOOK at where Corrie Sanders was before he stepped into the ring with Wlad.

HE was inactive a year, had 3 fights in the 3 years before that (including a loss to Rahman) and did more golfing than sparring.


Peter isn't fighting for a title, he's fighting an eliminator.

There have been much much worse fighters or unproven fighters fighting for TITLES.

You don't have a case here, and never did.

A few posts back, you said Sam deserves to fight for an eliminator (and Peter doesn't) because Sam beat DANNY WILLIAMS.

Serioulsy. Stop.

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A few posts back, you said Sam deserves to fight for an eliminator (and Peter doesn't) because Sam beat DANNY WILLIAMS.

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all i was saying was at least samil sam has beaten a name opponent, samuel peter has not even beaten a danny williams yet[who by the way destroyed kali meehan]

all i was saying was at least samil sam has beaten a name opponent, samuel peter has not even beaten a danny williams yet[who by the way destroyed kali meehan]

The fact you use Danny Williams as a meaningful win speaks for itself.

Once again, this is an eliminator, not a title shot.

The fact that worse fighters have receive title shots (nevermind just fighting in an eliminator) really puts all of your objections into perspective.

I personally think Wlad somehow weasels out of the Peter fight really. He'll definitely say "well, Sam deserves to fight Peter first." Meanwhile, Wlad'll try getting out of the Peter fight. He knows Sam likely won't beat Peter, so Wlad might go after say John Ruiz or some **** instead.


exactly, no way Wlad fights peter, he knows he will get knocked out again and finished off this time, that is a guarantee that he ducks out of this fight

i hope sam fight simail cause then we can see how hard he can punch and take one, samil is very rugged and tough and has a punch his self, he cant box worth **** and it be interesting to see it, wlad can fight brock with the winner getting byrd

i hope sam fight simail cause then we can see how hard he can punch and take one, samil is very rugged and tough and has a punch his self, he cant box worth **** and it be interesting to see it, wlad can fight brock with the winner getting byrd


why don't you shut up and go back to jacking off to that bum sturm

That's why drinking is illegal in most states until 21! That would explain your double vision! :D
hahahahaha thas funny

And when was that? ****ing 2000 or so right? He has since been KTFO by Sanders and stopped against ****ing Brewster. Since Brewster, who the **** has Klitschko beat? Castillo? A blown up Cruiserweight? Williamson? The same guy that was KTFO in 1 round by ****ing Mesi? Ha, top guys for sure.

That's definitely call for a #1 ranking for the Heavyweight title. :rolleyes:

Hell, I would love for Wlad to fight Byrd now. Don't get me wrong. Even though he doesn't deserve it, I want him to get it. I'd rather see Peter beat his ass truthfully, but I'd take him vs. Byrd 2. That'd be fine by my watch.
he would whoop byrds ass, look how long hes been going after byrd and byrd is running like a lil *****, **** byrd is gonna try to dodge williamson too just watch. And peter aint ****, just a regular guy with a punch that hasnt faced a fighter that could really test him, his is coming....

Only extreme Wlad fans would've been claiming Peter was ducking Klitschko. Why would he have been calling Vitali out if he were scared of Wlad?

Its also funny that people give Wlad such a huge chance against Peter. Some even saying he'd destroy Peter. I'm not saying its not possible, Tarver vs. Jones 2 has proven that nothing is impossible, but highly ****ing improbable.


I never heard of Peter ducking my boy Wlad, why would he? He could very well smoke Wlad with one flush shot in the face. I hope they fight though, questions loom for both men.

right on Bozo. Wlad should fight peter and lose so that him being even acknowledged can finally come to an end. Wlad is shot and has had his jaw completely busted twice already. with a guy like peter who can hit ( and trust me I am not saying Peter is a great fighter) WLad wont last long. Neither Klitchko likes anyone who fires back at them. Remember Vitali backing away from featherfisted Burd when he threw punches back? or who can forget sanders turning WLad into jello pudding. when an opponent punches back and is not a hand picked runner/feinter, the Klitchkos dont like it.
Vitali dominated byrd 9 out of 10 rounds, he couldnt use his other hand so he had to stop...
dont tell me no **** bout that cause byrd was getting his ass kicked..

And in a world where Kali Meehan can fight for the WBO title, and Corrie Sanders gets sanctioned to fight for a vacent WBC title, Mo Harris fighting for the IBF title, you're outright wrong.

Yanqi Diaz was coming off a 1st round KO of JC Gomez and Peter battered him. Taurus Sykes was also a much better win than the likes of Eliseo Castillo.

Peter is ranked top 5 across the board by the IBF WBC and WBO.

You're crying into the wind here.
Taurus Sykes ***** please I never heard of the guy before the Peter fight, atleast Castillo has a win over Michael Moorer.
U always talk mad **** bout Vitali not deserving to be champ well who the hell has peter beat that ur riding him??????

Castillo has a win over Michael Moorer? This is your argument to try saying Wladimir deserves a title shot? Get ****ing real. Castillo beat an old ass, unmotivated as hell Moorer. Tua KTFO Moorer in 30 seconds. Wlad beat Castillo? So the **** what? Why didn't he crush him if he's so great and deserving? Castillo's a blown up cruiserweight.

And unlike Wlad, Peter is willing to wait and fight people to get ranked the #1 contender. Wlad wants to go to court to force a title shot that he doesn't even deserve.

you can't compare corrie sanders to diaz, corrie sanders is a legit top 10 heavyweight who has mixed it with the very best. we'll just have to agree to disagree.


...comparing Sanders to Diaz is s ****in joke and that jackass knows it. Surely he can't sit in his room in the basement with a straight face after saying some **** like that.

Vitali dominated byrd 9 out of 10 rounds, he couldnt use his other hand so he had to stop...
dont tell me no **** bout that cause byrd was getting his ass kicked..


...exactly, it's like Bozo posting that GIF of Vitali backing up against Byrd when his shoulder was hurt. Get the **** out of here with that stupid ****. This Riptor guy is shaping up to be just as big of a jackass as Bozo. In fact it probably is Bozo.

Taurus Sykes ***** please I never heard of the guy before the Peter fight, atleast Castillo has a win over Michael Moorer.
U always talk mad **** bout Vitali not deserving to be champ well who the hell has peter beat that ur riding him??????


Listen you angry little troll,

How am I "riding Peter" to point out that one guy has flawed logic in saying he doesn't deserve to fight in an ELIMINATOR.

NOT A TITLE SHOT.

Vitali is the Ring Magazine title holder, Peter is only fighting for an ELIMINTOR for ONE OF the belts.

Try reading, stopping to breathe, and THINK before you start to troll.

...exactly, it's like Bozo posting that GIF of Vitali backing up against Byrd when his shoulder was hurt. Get the **** out of here with that stupid ****. This Riptor guy is shaping up to be just as big of a jackass as Bozo. In fact it probably is Bozo.


Still hard to swallow that Vitali LOST to Byrd my sporty at 40 friend?

You clowns are pathetic.

Vitali was ahead on the cards, and QUIT on his stool.

Holyfield had the same injury Vitali did vs Byrd, and finished a fight he knew he was losing.

There is no excuse for why the guy didn't use his one good arm to tie Byrd up and coast for 3 rounds, not even needing to throw another punch.

He QUIT on his stool, and GAVE UP his title.

As would be consistant with your maturity level and emotional state, you probably watched the fight once (if ever) and were scarred from watching it.

Grow up PDBS. You're 41 years old.

Your hero LOST to Chris Byrd, and that's all there is to it.

...comparing Sanders to Diaz is s ****in joke and that jackass knows it. Surely he can't sit in his room in the basement with a straight face after saying some **** like that.


Why don't you try reading the context it was in?

Peter enihalted Diaz, Wlad was BATTERED and BRUTALLY KO'd BY Sanders.

See the difference?

So when somone's trying to tell me that Wlad deserves to fight in an eliminator but Peter doesn't, that sounds as stupid as a 41 year old man being in an online alliance.

Get it?

Why don't you try reading the context it was in?

Peter enihalted Diaz, Wlad was BATTERED and BRUTALLY KO'd BY Sanders.

See the difference?

So when somone's trying to tell me that Wlad deserves to fight in an eliminator but Peter doesn't, that sounds as stupid as a 41 year old man being in an online alliance.

Get it?


...Yeah, and that sounds almost as stupid as some Canadian loser telling me how funny he thinks it is that I spent points to change his user name, and then watching that same dumb **** spend 70 million to change someone elses user name who has ten times the money of said loser. This particular loser claimed that it was silly to spend points doing such things and went on and on and on and on like he always does about it. As if this ****ing clown had any credibility to begin with. Your such an insecure puss boy. You also claim that the changed user name doesn't bother you but your up late at night just waiting for the "change own custom to fill" so you can change your name back. What kind of loser follows that **** so closely that he is the first person to change his user name back the last 3 times the option came available. Anyone who doubts that can go see the history for yourselves. lol lol lol I was trying to respect you for your boxing knowledge but it turns out that your a bigger fraud than I thought.

Still hard to swallow that Vitali LOST to Byrd my sporty at 40 friend?

You clowns are pathetic.

Vitali was ahead on the cards, and QUIT on his stool.

Holyfield had the same injury Vitali did vs Byrd, and finished a fight he knew he was losing.

There is no excuse for why the guy didn't use his one good arm to tie Byrd up and coast for 3 rounds, not even needing to throw another punch.

He QUIT on his stool, and GAVE UP his title.

As would be consistant with your maturity level and emotional state, you probably watched the fight once (if ever) and were scarred from watching it.

Grow up PDBS. You're 41 years old.

Your hero LOST to Chris Byrd, and that's all there is to it.


....your the one who needs to grow up son. Your probably the most immature poster I have ever seen on any board. Vitali did quit in that fight. He never should have done it. But after the Lennox fight it's ancient history and only girls like you would still bring it up. The bottom line is that Vitali handled Byrd easily barring the injury. You still believe that Byrd might give Vitali a hardtime if they met now. lol lol lol What a delusional moron that makes you. Your a joke bro and everybody on this forum knows it. :)

...Yeah, and that sounds almost as stupid as some Canadian loser telling me how funny he thinks it is that I spent points to change his user name, and then watching that same dumb **** spend 70 million to change someone elses user name who has ten times the money of said loser. This particular loser claimed that it was silly to spend points doing such things and went on and on and on and on like he always does about it. As if this ****ing clown had any credibility to begin with. Your such an insecure puss boy. You also claim that the changed user name doesn't bother you but your up late at night just waiting for the "change own custom to fill" so you can change your name back. What kind of loser follows that **** so closely that he is the first person to change his user name back the last 3 times the option came available. Anyone who doubts that can go see the history for yourselves. lol lol lol I was trying to respect you for your boxing knowledge but it turns out that your a bigger fraud than I thought.

I said from the very begining that karma, points, and anything of that nature are absolutly meaningless. So when someone gave me 100 million points at once, I could care less about spending it all right away. Had I thought they were as important as you do, I would have changed your tag right away. Notice how I didn't do that? Because unlike you and your obsession over me, that's how much I could care less about you.

What I DID say, is that a 40 year old man who does put such importance on it that he'd do it 3 times in a row is as pathetic as it gets.

But then again, this is the same 40 year old man who's in an online "alliance".

....your the one who needs to grow up son. Your probably the most immature poster I have ever seen on any board. Vitali did quit in that fight. He never should have done it. But after the Lennox fight it's ancient history and only girls like you would still bring it up. The bottom line is that Vitali handled Byrd easily barring the injury. You still believe that Byrd might give Vitali a hardtime if they met now. lol lol lol What a delusional moron that makes you. Your a joke bro and everybody on this forum knows it. :)

That's funny, who's the one who brought it up?

That would be YOU.

And when did I ever say Byrd would give him a hard time again?

Once again, you resort to putting words in my mouth.

All I've done in this thread is correct you on something YOU BROUGHT UP, and point out that you critisized something I said out of context.

Funny that you'd mention maturity levels.

You calling ANYONE else immature is the biggest joke imaginable.

You're a 41 year old loser who belongs to an online alliance, and believes in "points" and "karma" like they hold true and sincere credibility.

Grow up PDBS.

You troll around this fourm like a bully, and as soon as you see something negative about a Klitschko you get your panties in a bunch.

Learn to talk about and watch boxing without turning into an emotional mess about your heros.

That's funny, who's the one who brought it up?

That would be YOU.

And when did I ever say Byrd would give him a hard time again?

Once again, you resort to putting words in my mouth.

All I've done in this thread is correct you on something YOU BROUGHT UP, and point out that you critisized something I said out of context.

Funny that you'd mention maturity levels.

You calling ANYONE else immature is the biggest joke imaginable.

You're a 41 year old loser who belongs to an online alliance, and believes in "points" and "karma" like they hold true and sincere credibility.

Grow up PDBS.

You troll around this fourm like a bully, and as soon as you see something negative about a Klitschko you get your panties in a bunch.

Learn to talk about and watch boxing without turning into an emotional mess about your heros.


...You said in another thread that you rate Byrd currently higher than Vitali. Hence, you think he would beat Vitali in a matchup. You have made comment after comment about Vitali in the Byrd fight and even broght it up in this thread. Your a dick who has nothing positive to say ever. You have no sense of humor and are an angry angry poster. Nice try BTW starting a thread about Jesica Simpson in the lounge. Was that attempt at loosening up as I told you to do? Yeah, you really showed us how balanced you are. You went right into the lounge and made one thread and had a ball didn't you? And there you go with the points and Karma again. If it suits your agenda to say I'm stupid to spend points to change your custom when it doesn't mean anything then what does it say when you do the exact same think to change someone else's custom title? No credibility dick wad. You think I'm on your ass now?? STFU and grow up kid.

I said from the very begining that karma, points, and anything of that nature are absolutly meaningless. So when someone gave me 100 million points at once, I could care less about spending it all right away. Had I thought they were as important as you do, I would have changed your tag right away. Notice how I didn't do that? Because unlike you and your obsession over me, that's how much I could care less about you.

What I DID say, is that a 40 year old man who does put such importance on it that he'd do it 3 times in a row is as pathetic as it gets.

But then again, this is the same 40 year old man who's in an online "alliance".



....Yeah those points don't mean anything to you Bozo. Lets hear what kind of ******* would lend you 100 million? Whoever would lend you a dime is a ****in jackoff and I don't care who it is. If the custom title didn't mean anything toyou then you wouldn't have changed someone elses. Bottom line is that once again you are proved to be full of ****. Obviously the alliance thing really really bothered you just as intended or you wouldnt bring it up in every post. Absolutely pathetic!! Your so upset at your red bar and custom title that you probably cry yourself to sleep at night. Do you have any life whatsoever outside of making an ass of yourself on line? Man I can tell your a real piece of work in real life. ha ha ha ha ha

...You said in another thread that you rate Byrd currently higher than Vitali. Hence, you think he would beat Vitali in a matchup. You have made comment after comment about Vitali in the Byrd fight and even broght it up in this thread. Your a dick who has nothing positive to say ever. You have no sense of humor and are an angry angry poster. Nice try BTW starting a thread about Jesica Simpson in the lounge. Was that attempt at loosening up as I told you to do? Yeah, you really showed us how balanced you are. You went right into the lounge and made one thread and had a ball didn't you? And there you go with the points and Karma again. If it suits your agenda to say I'm stupid to spend points to change your custom when it doesn't mean anything then what does it say when you do the exact same think to change someone else's custom title? No credibility dick wad. You think I'm on your ass now?? STFU and grow up kid.


Funny, I point out how your actions make you immature, you call me immature.

You point out that I'm an "angry" poster and then go on a bitter rant full of hollow allegations.

I posted that GiF I made because I edited it very well for a gif, and wanted to share it. If it makes you feel like more of a man to take credit for that, feel free.


I said currently there isn't much between Byrd and Vitali for the # 1 spot at the moment, but that Byrd deserves a slight edge (in my opinion) because he held a W over Vitali.

Once again, you illustrate your blinded and deluded fantasism by displaying your line of thinking that because Vitali would be favored over the other top 5 or so fighters, that he should be freely handed the same credit he would get for beating them, even though he hasn't done it yet (and is 0-1 agaisnt the other top 5 current Heavyweights.)


Face it, you and I are never going to get along because you're a 41 year old bully who's a protective gaurdian of all things Klitschko.

You see the slightest critisism, and you start personal attacks, long winded rants etc.

Everytime you assert your biased non sense, I will point it out.

I did so earlier on this thread when you started in about the Byrd fight and the comment I made about Sanders (out of context) and you started in with the insults.

I called you on it, pointed out your past instances of immaturity, and you went all recess on me again.

Get used to it. I'm not going anywhere, and you can't bully me by making my bar any more red.

I will call you on your childish deluded bull **** everytime I see it.
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....Yeah those points don't mean anything to you Bozo. Lets hear what kind of ******* would lend you 100 million? Whoever would lend you a dime is a ****in jackoff and I don't care who it is. If the custom title didn't mean anything toyou then you wouldn't have changed someone elses. Bottom line is that once again you are proved to be full of ****. Obviously the alliance thing really really bothered you just as intended or you wouldnt bring it up in every post. Absolutely pathetic!! Your so upset at your red bar and custom title that you probably cry yourself to sleep at night. Do you have any life whatsoever outside of making an ass of yourself on line? Man I can tell your a real piece of work in real life. ha ha ha ha ha


Somebody gave me points because I made a Gif they asked about.

And because I don't care about points, karma, or friendship clubs (unlike some other 41 year old hick I know) I wasted them right away.

Had I went straight to you and changed your tag, or relentlessly changed someone else's tag 3 times in a row, I might be well on the road to 41 year old pathetic-ville.

Remember Vitali backing away from featherfisted Burd when he threw

punches back?

....This is one of your comments in this thread under your alter ego Riptor.


I said currently there isn't much between Byrd and Vitali for the # 1 spot at the moment, but that Byrd deserves a slight edge (in my opinion) because he held a W over Vitali.

.....This is the same thing as saying Byrd would beat Vitali now dumbass. How can you rate Byrd above Vitali currently and not think that he can beat him? If he is rated above him then you think he will win. This gives you zero credibility pal no matter how you try to spin it. If you think I have bullied you around this place you aint seen nothing yet bro. Your one of the biggest *******s this site has ever seen. I was actually starting to defend you and thinking you weren't that bad of a guy but then I see that you are the ass that everyone says you are.

Somebody gave me points because I made a Gif they asked about.

And because I don't care about points, karma, or friendship clubs (unlike some other 41 year old hick I know) I wasted them right away.

Had I went straight to you and changed your tag, or relentlessly changed someone else's tag 3 times in a row, I might be well on the road to 41 year old pathetic-ville.



...Quit stalling and tell me who gave you the 100 million. Bottom line is that it does mean something to you and the changes bother you or you wouldn't bother to retaliate on anyone. Just admit that it means something to you.

Remember Vitali backing away from featherfisted Burd when he threw

punches back?

....This is one of your comments in this thread under your alter ego Riptor.


I said currently there isn't much between Byrd and Vitali for the # 1 spot at the moment, but that Byrd deserves a slight edge (in my opinion) because he held a W over Vitali.

.....This is the same thing as saying Byrd would beat Vitali now dumbass. How can you rate Byrd above Vitali currently and not think that he can beat him? If he is rated above him then you think he will win. This gives you zero credibility pal no matter how you try to spin it. If you think I have bullied you around this place you aint seen nothing yet bro. Your one of the biggest *******s this site has ever seen. I was actually starting to defend you and thinking you weren't that bad of a guy but then I see that you are the ass that everyone says you are.


It's too easy dealing with your questions, because your head is so far up the Klitschko's asses, you don't even realize how ignornat you're being.

Right now, there are 4 title holders, and Toney and Rahman all around the top of the divsion. The only guys who've fought eachother were Byrd over Vitali and Toney over Ruiz.

Aside from that, the criteria to rank them (without the "becasue Vitali's my hero" take) is to look at who they've fought reccently, and what they've accomplished in their career.

Vitali has one fight in the last 14 months, agaisnt Danny Williams. Outside of that, he HAS NOT fought any other top current heavyweights, and is 0-1 agaisnt the other title holders.

The fact you THINK Vitali would beat them all holds NO WEIGHT in a discussion.

This is like trying to argue with a 4 year old about his favorite super hero.

Unreal.

...Quit stalling and tell me who gave you the 100 million. Bottom line is that it does mean something to you and the changes bother you or you wouldn't bother to retaliate on anyone. Just admit that it means something to you.

Why, because that would make you feel better because of how much it means to you?

Grow up you 41 year old slob.

Vitali has one fight in the last 14 months, agaisnt Danny Williams. Outside of that, he HAS NOT fought any other current heavyweights, and is 0-1 agaisnt the other title holders.


....Hello!!!!! Mcfly??? Byrd has argueable lost his last three fights and looks like **** now and a shadow of his former self. Vitali has knocked the **** out of his last three opponents who were of much better quality than Byrds last three. How can you sit there with a straight face and claim that Byrd ha the edge over himnow because he got an injury win over him yers ago. Aren't you the guy always harping on what boxers are doing currently and not harping on the past. There are probably 5% of this board and maybe 3% of the boxing experts who would give Byrd a shot against Vitali if they fought tomorrow. lol lol lol your too much my man.

Why, because that would make you feel better because of how much it means to you?

Grow up you 41 year old slob.


...Isn't a slob a fat sloppy guy?? You may have me confused with someone else.

Vitali has one fight in the last 14 months, agaisnt Danny Williams. Outside of that, he HAS NOT fought any other current heavyweights, and is 0-1 agaisnt the other title holders.


....Hello!!!!! Mcfly??? Byrd has argueable lost his last three fights and looks like **** now and a shadow of his former self. Vitali has knocked the **** out of his last three opponents who were of much better quality than Byrds last three. How can you sit there with a straight face and claim that Byrd ha the edge over himnow because he got an injury win over him yers ago. Aren't you the guy always harping on what boxers are doing currently and not harping on the past. There are probably 5% of this board and maybe 3% of the boxing experts who would give Byrd a shot against Vitali if they fought tomorrow. lol lol lol your too much my man.


Vitali's last 3 opponents:

Williams, Sanders, Johnson

Byrd's last 3 opponents:

McCline, Golota, Oquendo


There is not much to pick between them.

I could care less how much Vitali dominates guys like Sanders and Williams, they are ****.

I never touted Byrd as being anything special. He's **** too, is inactive and hasn't done much lately.

But as I always point out, there isn't a faction of deluded spitefull nut huggers hyping up Chris Byrd is there?

And none of that changes the fact Byrd beat Vitali, something that (you displayed again earlier) you still have trouble dealing with.

The fact you THINK Vitali would beat them all holds NO WEIGHT in a discussion.


.....This is the majority opinion ererywhere but Bizarro Bozo world. It's not just me jagoff and that's wht you don't get. Even all the heavies think Vit is the best. That's why they al call him out and say they want to beat the man to become the man. He is at the top of the crowd right now and your individual opinion means jack ****.

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...Quit stalling and tell me who gave you the 100 million. Bottom line is that it does mean something to you and the changes bother you or you wouldn't bother to retaliate on anyone. Just admit that it means something to you.
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Why, because that would make you feel better because of how much it means to you?

Grow up you 41 year old slob.

I believe that would be oldgringo AKA bozo zhlobo lol
Now we're just transfering funds heh? That's money laundering your ****!

Vitali's last 3 opponents:

Williams, Sanders, Johnson

Byrd's last 3 opponents:

McCline, Golota, Oquendo


There is not much to pick between them.

I could care less how much Vitali dominates guys like Sanders and Williams, they are ****.

I never touted Byrd as being anything special. He's **** too, is inactive and hasn't done much lately.

But as I always point out, there isn't a faction of deluded spitefull nut huggers hyping up Chris Byrd is there?

And none of that changes the fact Byrd beat Vitali, something that (you displayed again earlier) you still have trouble dealing with.


...Why would anyone hype Byrd dumbass??? YOu get more and more brilliant with every post. Vitali is the "man" right now like it or not. Were you raped by a Ukranian or something? You are so obsessed with the brothers. You need to borrow Masterdirectors poster of them so you too can spend your nights spooging them up.

I believe that would be oldgringo AKA bozo zhlobo lol
Now we're just transfering funds heh? That's money laundering your ****!


...Nah, Gringo aint a Klit fan but he wouldn't stoop to that **** and he is a good guy. Bozo aint his alter.

.....This is the majority opinion ererywhere but Bizarro Bozo world. It's not just me jagoff and that's wht you don't get. Even all the heavies think Vit is the best. That's why they al call him out and say they want to beat the man to become the man. He is at the top of the crowd right now and your individual opinion means jack ****.

As you saw in my very upsetting thread about the Ring title, many people are tired with the hype Vitali gets despite what he's accomplished.

All your crying and insulting doesn't change the fact

- he's LOST to Chris Byrd and Lennox Lewis (the two top fighters he's faces)

- he's 0-1 agaisnt the current top 5 or 6 Heavyweights

- His biggest career wins are over Corrie Sanders and Larry Donald

...Nah, Gringo aint a Klit fan but he wouldn't stoop to that **** and he is a good guy. Bozo aint his alter.jose? :rolleyes:
That's what I hear people saying!

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...Why would anyone hype Byrd dumbass??? YOu get more and more brilliant with every post. Vitali is the "man" right now like it or not. Were you raped by a Ukranian or something? You are so obsessed with the brothers. You need to borrow Masterdirectors poster of them so you too can spend your nights spooging them up.


If I am obsessed, what does that make you?


As you saw in my "Ring Belt" thread, there are more and more people tired with the unwarrented hype around Klitschko, and the fact he has yet to face a top available opponent only underlines that fact.

He is very unactive, has yet to beat a meaningful opponent in his entire career, and is one of 4 title holders at the moment.

All of your attempts at bullying, your huffing and puffing, and karma slinging isn't going to change that.

If I am obsessed, what does that make you?


As you saw in my "Ring Belt" thread, there are more and more people tired with the unwarrented hype around Klitschko, and the fact he has yet to face a top available opponent only underlines that fact.

He is very unactive, has yet to beat a meaningful opponent in his entire career, and is one of 4 title holders at the moment.

All of your attempts at bullying, your huffing and puffing, and karma slinging isn't going to change that.


...alright, my wife wants me to watch the end of Phoenix rising so this is my last post on this subject for now. Vitali may be catching some flack for inactivity but compared to the other champs he has been more active in the last 3 years even with the Lewis injuries and his back trouble. The other champs have been completely healthy and have not been as active. People are just pissed because they consider him the man and they wanna see him beat some ass. All the crying will stop when he gets back in the ring and starts crushing guys again. The heat will be off and you won't have a gimpy leg to stand on.

Bozo,

Why do you always repeat yourself? As long as I've been on this forum, you haven't said anything new? Don't you get tired of yourself?
I understand your frasturation... you dream Klitschko every night!
Give it up.. you're ruining yourself.. and doesnt look like you're convincing anyone else.
Look where all this hating got you.. Your Bar is as red as bozo's nose. If I was you I would give it a rest. Yeah you say that you don't care about Karma, that's Bull! I've seen you abuse others with red, while yours was blue.. but someone has joined the nonesence talkers with so much red!

Give Up!

Bozo,

Why do you always repeat yourself? As long as I've been on this forum, you haven't said anything new? Don't you get tired of yourself?
I understand your frasturation... you dream Klitschko every night!
Give it up.. you're ruining yourself.. and doesnt look like you're convincing anyone else.
Look where all this hating got you.. Your Bar is as red as bozo's nose. If I was you I would give it a rest. Yeah you say that you don't care about Karma, that's Bull! I've seen you abuse others with red, while yours was blue.. but someone has joined the nonesence talkers with so much red!

Give Up!



My bar is red because PDBS was angered by my critisisms of the Klitschkos, and coordinated his "alliance" to hit me up with Bad K.

I could care less what you think, you've got a rabbit in your avatar photo.

...alright, my wife wants me to watch the end of Phoenix rising so this is my last post on this subject for now. Vitali may be catching some flack for inactivity but compared to the other champs he has been more active in the last 3 years even with the Lewis injuries and his back trouble. The other champs have been completely healthy and have not been as active. People are just pissed because they consider him the man and they wanna see him beat some ass. All the crying will stop when he gets back in the ring and starts crushing guys again. The heat will be off and you won't have a gimpy leg to stand on.


Same old tiresome non sense.

You attack me for pointing out how you were bent up about the Byrd Klitschko fight again.

You then go on a big personal attack again, and when I point out how you're only illustrating how petty and imature you are, you bring it back to just Vitali in general.

Did you ever stop to think that whenever you or anyone is justifying the overwhelming hype around Vitali it's always "Ifs" or "You just wait and you'll see".

I never had a problem with either of the Klitschkos.

It's their blinded, spitefull, deluded and hype creating fan club. (The 41 year olds being the most pathetic of the bunch).

"If" Vitali steps up and beats some of the other top fighters, I will have no problem giving him props.

I'm not holding my breath.

Isn't my bunny cute?

But why call yourself Bozo?

No wonder everyone is making fun of you

Isn't my bunny cute?

But why call yourself Bozo?

No wonder everyone is making fun of you


I didn't realize that you and one other person were "everyone".

I'm used to the fanatics ganging up on me. As I always remind them: 0x0x0=0


Oh, and my name is from a Jay Nadey quote. Not that you're recognize that fluffy.

funny about how theres so much flame wars about Wlad gettign a title shot, yet rahman beaten no one CURRENTLY and vitali is ducking him :rolleyes: strange world huh