Kids are stupid. They're always running around with their sticky hands and filthy Star Wars toys, completely oblivious to their surroundings. Irresponsible, lazy, and worthless. I saw a kid on a Chex commercial today. The kid was laughing. Laughing because he likes the noise it makes when he eats cereal. The kid was trying to be cute and funny, but ended up being annoying and repulsive. The commercial gave me diarrhea.

You know.. you're pretty much a pile of **** if you're content with living your life eating cereal and laughing at the noise it makes. Why don't these worthless kids get a job? Child labor laws--my ass. We need to make new child labor laws, forcing kids into work at an early age. If their backs don't hurt, then they aren't earning their living.

I mean, kids need real jobs. None of this selling lemonade at the corner of the street bull**** that they do now. The other day, some ugly little kids were trying to sell piss-warm lemonade to people driving by. Like anyone's going to go out of their way to stop, buy some diseased sugar water with dead flies in it, just to help out a group of dirty little ****s that don't have anything better to do.

Not that they know what to do with the money once they get. They usually fritter it away on legos and Britney Spears albums. Speaking of Britney Spears, she blows.

I also saw a Rice Crispies commercial the other day. It started out with some short, uncoordinated little **** trying to reach the Rice Crispies on the kitchen counter (I was hoping it was one of those commercials where a pot of boiling water scalds the kid; you know, the ones that are supposed to give irresponsible parents a guilt trip). But no. The kid got his rice crispies, then the MUSIC started playing. "Snap crackle pop... wake up call to the world! Snap crackle pop..." That whore. Then the kid snuck into his baby brother's room and placed the bowl of cereal right next to his head. The baby woke up and looked around. What the hell? The last thing you want is a baby that's awake. Babies are loud, stupid, and they **** all over everything.

Just as the baby woke up, the door cracked open. It was the mom. She looked into the room and tilted her head, as if to say "Awwe.. isn't that cute?" NO. YOU STUPID *****. YOUR KID COULD HAVE BEEN SCALDED BY BOILING WATER. Pay attention next time. Damned irresponsible parents. If you're not going to supervise your little brats, then don't have kids. We have enough jackasses running around as it is, we don't need more.

People tell me that I shouldn't have kids. Why? I think I'd make a great parent. My kids won't be screwed up little bastards. They'll be great, just like me. I won't tolerate failure, like all those other parents. No son of mine is going to fail. We need more winners, and less losers. If you can't cut it, then you're weak. Inferior. Worthless. A bad seed. A sour grape. What's with sour grapes anyway? Why are they considered bad? I like sour grapes, so piss off.

37,115 people think I'm an ******* for hating kids (still).

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=hatekids2


I cracked up for like 5 minutes. THat is all soo true

lmao
that is ****ing true
KID are not ****ING CUTE WHEN THEY GOT HALF OF GERBER IN THEIR ****ING CLOTHES and SPITTED THE OTHER HALF TO YOUR GODDAMNED FACE!!!

Prolly hate kids now but when they have one, they'll end up changing their mind.


btw, maddoxx is not even funny.

I have no opinion.

Don't be ignorant, you were once like that too, they just can't acknowledge what they're doing because they haven't been thought to do it yet, I hate hypocrites who claim to hate kids when everyone knows you acted just like that even if you don't remember it, which is why.

I love kids. I want a daughter, but I want her to never grow beyond like 12 where she dates and crap, that'll be what kills me. In that regard, sons would definitely be easier to raise.

Kids are the most honest, least fake people in the world. They'll tell everything like they see it and not hide anything. As they grow, parents suppress them, punish them for their honesty, tell them to stop being imaginative.

I'll try being a great father. I'd settle for being a decent one. And husband, if I'm married. I don't know about that one anymore.

Cheating is wrong, I'd never do it. There's no excuse to cheat on a girlfriend or boyfriend. Just break up. Husband/wife, at least announce that you want a divorce first and start the process.

I love kids too :o

I love kids. I want a daughter, but I want her to never grow beyond like 12 where she dates and crap, that'll be what kills me. In that regard, sons would definitely be easier to raise.

Kids are the most honest, least fake people in the world. They'll tell everything like they see it and not hide anything. As they grow, parents suppress them, punish them for their honesty, tell them to stop being imaginative.

I'll try being a great father. I'd settle for being a decent one. And husband, if I'm married. I don't know about that one anymore.

Cheating is wrong, I'd never do it. There's no excuse to cheat on a girlfriend or boyfriend. Just break up. Husband/wife, at least announce that you want a divorce first and start the process.

that was kind of..........odd Ev lol

Hating Kids is a sign of IMMATURITY ...

I love kids. I want a daughter, but I want her to never grow beyond like 12 where she dates and crap, that'll be what kills me. In that regard, sons would definitely be easier to raise.

Kids are the most honest, least fake people in the world. They'll tell everything like they see it and not hide anything. As they grow, parents suppress them, punish them for their honesty, tell them to stop being imaginative.

I'll try being a great father. I'd settle for being a decent one. And husband, if I'm married. I don't know about that one anymore.

Cheating is wrong, I'd never do it. There's no excuse to cheat on a girlfriend or boyfriend. Just break up. Husband/wife, at least announce that you want a divorce first and start the process.
You were kind of all over the place bro.

Hating Kids is a sign of IMMATURITY ...

They're germy, and loud, and picky. They scare me a bit lol.

I love kids too :o

Pervert
:theyareon

I was all over the place? Bah, nothing new for me. Its called a tangent. But see, you've got to understand big concepts like math to understand that. Yeah, cause math is soooo hard.

Pervert
:theyareon

not in that way, actually your the pervert for thinkign that way

They're germy, and loud, and picky. They scare me a bit lol.

Your prolly one of them gothics or whatever they are that act like they hate the world and want to kill themselfs or whatever, are you a gothic?

:confused:

not in that way, actually your the pervert for thinkign that way

I was joking, duh.

Your prolly one of them gothics or whatever they are that act like they hate the world and want to kill themselfs or whatever, are you a gothic?

:confused:



:cool: No I'm not goth, lol, I dress up occaisionally when the mood suits me.

I like to dress up kitty and dance.

:cool: No I'm not goth, lol, I dress up occaisionally when the mood suits me.

bah, you are. lol haha.

no offense but i hate those fking *****es, if they feel like killing themselfs then why dont they fuking do it, no one cares about em, no what i mean :mad:

its ok for now but one day ul be liking them too in the future .. i really hate kids back then wen i was a teen but now i realize how cute and fun they are to be..it will reminisce u the time when u r a kid like them. sometimes we got to adopt and understand on some situation in our life and turn it into positive things

They're germy, and loud, and picky. They scare me a bit lol.
It sounds like you hate children, Blood child, yet you call yourself a child. You are strange, yet Happy early Birthday for next year, Since i was late this year im early for the next.

It sounds like you hate children, Blood child, yet you call yourself a child. You are strange, yet Happy early Birthday for next year, Since i was late this year im early for the next.
kid = child
so r u sayin that she hates herself too ?

It sounds like you hate children, Blood child, yet you call yourself a child. You are strange, yet Happy early Birthday for next year, Since i was late this year im early for the next.


Haha thanks J.M.



And stop being asses guys, I don't actually hate them. I don't hate anyone.

Kids are stupid. They're always running around with their sticky hands and filthy Star Wars toys, completely oblivious to their surroundings. Irresponsible, lazy, and worthless. I saw a kid on a Chex commercial today. The kid was laughing. Laughing because he likes the noise it makes when he eats cereal. The kid was trying to be cute and funny, but ended up being annoying and repulsive. The commercial gave me diarrhea.

You know.. you're pretty much a pile of **** if you're content with living your life eating cereal and laughing at the noise it makes. Why don't these worthless kids get a job? Child labor laws--my ass. We need to make new child labor laws, forcing kids into work at an early age. If their backs don't hurt, then they aren't earning their living.

I mean, kids need real jobs. None of this selling lemonade at the corner of the street bull**** that they do now. The other day, some ugly little kids were trying to sell piss-warm lemonade to people driving by. Like anyone's going to go out of their way to stop, buy some diseased sugar water with dead flies in it, just to help out a group of dirty little ****s that don't have anything better to do.

Not that they know what to do with the money once they get. They usually fritter it away on legos and Britney Spears albums. Speaking of Britney Spears, she blows.

I also saw a Rice Crispies commercial the other day. It started out with some short, uncoordinated little **** trying to reach the Rice Crispies on the kitchen counter (I was hoping it was one of those commercials where a pot of boiling water scalds the kid; you know, the ones that are supposed to give irresponsible parents a guilt trip). But no. The kid got his rice crispies, then the MUSIC started playing. "Snap crackle pop... wake up call to the world! Snap crackle pop..." That whore. Then the kid snuck into his baby brother's room and placed the bowl of cereal right next to his head. The baby woke up and looked around. What the hell? The last thing you want is a baby that's awake. Babies are loud, stupid, and they **** all over everything.

Just as the baby woke up, the door cracked open. It was the mom. She looked into the room and tilted her head, as if to say "Awwe.. isn't that cute?" NO. YOU STUPID *****. YOUR KID COULD HAVE BEEN SCALDED BY BOILING WATER. Pay attention next time. Damned irresponsible parents. If you're not going to supervise your little brats, then don't have kids. We have enough jackasses running around as it is, we don't need more.

People tell me that I shouldn't have kids. Why? I think I'd make a great parent. My kids won't be screwed up little bastards. They'll be great, just like me. I won't tolerate failure, like all those other parents. No son of mine is going to fail. We need more winners, and less losers. If you can't cut it, then you're weak. Inferior. Worthless. A bad seed. A sour grape. What's with sour grapes anyway? Why are they considered bad? I like sour grapes, so piss off.

37,115 people think I'm an ******* for hating kids (still).

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=hatekids2


I cracked up for like 5 minutes. THat is all soo true

Maddox is a smart mother****er.


remember, for every animal you don't eat, I'm going to eat three


Edit: Blood child, I humbly ask to join your crew...Since mine was pwned in the face.

You are a child though blood-CHILD uh?

You are a child though blood-CHILD uh?


Every time i see your signature, a little bit of cum comes out.

I didn't read any posts other than the first one, but wanted to show my support since I hate kids, too.

I hate kids too.

I had to visit my gf's family last year and her brothers and sisters have ll these little kids. I had to pretend like I liked them all and pretend like I wasnt bothered by all the stupid kiddy talk going on.

Every conversation revolved around the kids and what new cute thing they did that day. God. **** like that makes me cringe. I sure as hell hope that I like my kids because I know that I dont like other peoples kids.

http://movies.nnov.ru/Covers/Kids.jpg

I honestly thought it was pretty good.

I hate kids too.

I had to visit my gf's family last year and her brothers and sisters have ll these little kids. I had to pretend like I liked them all and pretend like I wasnt bothered by all the stupid kiddy talk going on.

Every conversation revolved around the kids and what new cute thing they did that day. God. **** like that makes me cringe. I sure as hell hope that I like my kids because I know that I dont like other peoples kids.


Does that mean you wont like even your own Kids

Does that mean you wont like even your own Kids

Read the last sentence of my post again please...

Kids are stupid. They're always running around with their sticky hands and filthy Star Wars toys, completely oblivious to their surroundings. Irresponsible, lazy, and worthless. I saw a kid on a Chex commercial today. The kid was laughing. Laughing because he likes the noise it makes when he eats cereal. The kid was trying to be cute and funny, but ended up being annoying and repulsive. The commercial gave me diarrhea.

You know.. you're pretty much a pile of **** if you're content with living your life eating cereal and laughing at the noise it makes. Why don't these worthless kids get a job? Child labor laws--my ass. We need to make new child labor laws, forcing kids into work at an early age. If their backs don't hurt, then they aren't earning their living.

I mean, kids need real jobs. None of this selling lemonade at the corner of the street bull**** that they do now. The other day, some ugly little kids were trying to sell piss-warm lemonade to people driving by. Like anyone's going to go out of their way to stop, buy some diseased sugar water with dead flies in it, just to help out a group of dirty little ****s that don't have anything better to do.

Not that they know what to do with the money once they get. They usually fritter it away on legos and Britney Spears albums. Speaking of Britney Spears, she blows.

I also saw a Rice Crispies commercial the other day. It started out with some short, uncoordinated little **** trying to reach the Rice Crispies on the kitchen counter (I was hoping it was one of those commercials where a pot of boiling water scalds the kid; you know, the ones that are supposed to give irresponsible parents a guilt trip). But no. The kid got his rice crispies, then the MUSIC started playing. "Snap crackle pop... wake up call to the world! Snap crackle pop..." That whore. Then the kid snuck into his baby brother's room and placed the bowl of cereal right next to his head. The baby woke up and looked around. What the hell? The last thing you want is a baby that's awake. Babies are loud, stupid, and they **** all over everything.

Just as the baby woke up, the door cracked open. It was the mom. She looked into the room and tilted her head, as if to say "Awwe.. isn't that cute?" NO. YOU STUPID *****. YOUR KID COULD HAVE BEEN SCALDED BY BOILING WATER. Pay attention next time. Damned irresponsible parents. If you're not going to supervise your little brats, then don't have kids. We have enough jackasses running around as it is, we don't need more.

People tell me that I shouldn't have kids. Why? I think I'd make a great parent. My kids won't be screwed up little bastards. They'll be great, just like me. I won't tolerate failure, like all those other parents. No son of mine is going to fail. We need more winners, and less losers. If you can't cut it, then you're weak. Inferior. Worthless. A bad seed. A sour grape. What's with sour grapes anyway? Why are they considered bad? I like sour grapes, so piss off.

37,115 people think I'm an ******* for hating kids (still).

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=hatekids2


I cracked up for like 5 minutes. THat is all soo true


Considering the fact that you're 16yrs old, you're pretty much a kid yourself according to today's society. So in essence, you hate yourself.

You just turned 16 blood_child, which basically means YOU ARE A KID. lol :p

I love kids. I want a daughter, but I want her to never grow beyond like 12 where she dates and crap, that'll be what kills me. In that regard, sons would definitely be easier to raise.

Kids are the most honest, least fake people in the world. They'll tell everything like they see it and not hide anything. As they grow, parents suppress them, punish them for their honesty, tell them to stop being imaginative.

I'll try being a great father. I'd settle for being a decent one. And husband, if I'm married. I don't know about that one anymore.

Cheating is wrong, I'd never do it. There's no excuse to cheat on a girlfriend or boyfriend. Just break up. Husband/wife, at least announce that you want a divorce first and start the process.

I agree completely! Excellent post MD.
NIKKI, damn girl, dont hold back now! :eek: Just wait til you have the pitter patter of little feet running around your house..all that will change. The very things that annoy you now will amuse the hell out of you then. You'll see ;)
On a side note, I'll NOT tell my kid what you think about her kind cause she's crazy about you :p

I don't hate any kids, but I hate those parents that led their kids run around like wild animals and don't give a ****. I can tell you from working in retail for a few years that that **** is the worst. And what sucks even more about it is that you're ****ing up your kids' lives in the process. You're turning them into spolied brats with no control over themselves which will translate into disaster when they grow up. **** those people.

I don't hate any kids, but I hate those parents that led their kids run around like wild animals and don't give a ****. I can tell you from working in retail for a few years that that **** is the worst. And what sucks even more about it is that you're ****ing up your kids' lives in the process. You're turning them into spolied brats with no control over themselves which will translate into disaster when they grow up. **** those people.

correct! blame the parents that let theirs act like heathens in public, cause thats where the blame goes.

Thanks TL

Umm Bombardardardardar, I can't stand that crap either. Parents who in stores let their kids run around, that's annoying. I'm never mad at the kid, cause the kid is just doing whats natural. Its the parent I'm annoyed at.

Like at the video store I worked at, we had these stupid long tubes of Nerds candy that kids would occassionally ****ing open and make a Hansel & Gretel trail throughout the ****ing store. You know how ****ing hard it is to get all those tiny pieces of candy up? OMG, you never get them all up, NEVER.

I would just ****ing glare at those damn parents when that **** would happen. Some would apologize or laugh politely, like I thought it was cute that they just let their kid spill edible rainbow cat litter all over the store. And I never once had a parent offer to pay for that candy either.

End Rant

Don't be ignorant, you were once like that too, they just can't acknowledge what they're doing because they haven't been thought to do it yet, I hate hypocrites who claim to hate kids when everyone knows you acted just like that even if you don't remember it, which is why.

Shut the hell up, you moron. That whole page is meant to be funny, and it does a damn good job at it.

Anyone who doesn't like Maddox's old material (his new is lacking), is an uptight pansie.

I don't have kids....certainly don't hate kids.

Here's my dilemma.
I know if I had kids, I'd never, ever want to leave them. This would be a total conflict with my role as provider.
The cool, fun dad....whose kids die of starvation !

correct! blame the parents that let theirs act like heathens in public, cause thats where the blame goes.

I don't have any stats to back me up or anything, but I really have a bad feeling that the current generation of parents (not all of them, of course, since you sound like you're a great mom, tracylee) is setting us up for a disaster of epic proportions when all their kids grow up. I've actually done a bit of reading about this. So many parents these days hand over wads of cash or even credit cards for their kids to spend at the mall every weekend. I mean, what the hell! They also obsess over their kids and make them think that their practically gods. I hear people like that at work. I mean, of course you love your kids, but they screw their kids up by practically worshipping them.

I mean, already you can see the effects this has had on kids that were raised about 5-10 years ago, when things were nearly as bad. People in their 20s have record levels of debt, spend everything they earn and buy giant houses that they can't afford on interest-only mortgages. It's insane. Apparently people entering the workforce these days are coming in with a ridiculous sense of entitlement...they want huge salaries and promotions and that right away. They live rich even though they're not.

And I think parents now are even worse, I can't imagine how the current crop of kids is going to turn out.

Considering the fact that you're 16yrs old, you're pretty much a kid yourself according to today's society. So in essence, you hate yourself.
man , u sig really make me laugh ... :D

Actually MD's post was good until the part about divorce. You shouldn't make vows unless you are prepared to honor them. That's a big part of the problem in America.

Thanks TL

Umm Bombardardardardar, I can't stand that crap either. Parents who in stores let their kids run around, that's annoying. I'm never mad at the kid, cause the kid is just doing whats natural. Its the parent I'm annoyed at.

Like at the video store I worked at, we had these stupid long tubes of Nerds candy that kids would occassionally ****ing open and make a Hansel & Gretel trail throughout the ****ing store. You know how ****ing hard it is to get all those tiny pieces of candy up? OMG, you never get them all up, NEVER.

I would just ****ing glare at those damn parents when that **** would happen. Some would apologize or laugh politely, like I thought it was cute that they just let their kid spill edible rainbow cat litter all over the store. And I never once had a parent offer to pay for that candy either.

End Rant

Yeah, I worked in a bookstore, and the kids would destroy the books, and the parents would act the exact same way. Like we all think that their kid is so amazing that they should be allowed to do whatever they want and to hell with societal conventions.

People I like and respect always have great kids, minus of course the acting up you inevitably get at certain ages, and people who are annoying have annoying kids. It's not a coincidence.

I don't have any stats to back me up or anything, but I really have a bad feeling that the current generation of parents (not all of them, of course, since you sound like you're a great mom, tracylee) is setting us up for a disaster of epic proportions when all their kids grow up. I've actually done a bit of reading about this. So many parents these days hand over wads of cash or even credit cards for their kids to spend at the mall every weekend. I mean, what the hell! They also obsess over their kids and make them think that their practically gods. I hear people like that at work. I mean, of course you love your kids, but they screw their kids up by practically worshipping them.

I mean, already you can see the effects this has had on kids that were raised about 5-10 years ago, when things were nearly as bad. People in their 20s have record levels of debt, spend everything they earn and buy giant houses that they can't afford on interest-only mortgages. It's insane. Apparently people entering the workforce these days are coming in with a ridiculous sense of entitlement...they want huge salaries and promotions and that right away. They live rich even though they're not.

And I think parents now are even worse, I can't imagine how the current crop of kids is going to turn out.

Sad, but true. (and thanks for the compliment) its an absolute, 100% MUST that kids be taught responsibility, or the big, bad world will eat them alive when they turn 18 and get on their own. Dont get me wrong, I spoil mine terribly, but as for giving her money, etc. she gets the same allowance each week (although I admit to giving $10 per A on her grade card, to encourage the A's) and that alone wipes me out during the school yr. But, I've also taught her to pick up behind herself and dont do everything for her myself (not when it's her mess and she's capable) and she doesnt talk to me like I'm **** and wipe her feet on me like alot of todays kids do. For her age, she's quite mature, and she's an only child (and will remain so) so of course she's a bit spoiled, but knows better than to take the things I give her for granted. I'm trying anyway...... :D

Actually MD's post was good until the part about divorce. You shouldn't make vows unless you are prepared to honor them. That's a big part of the problem in America.

I disagree. While divorce has become too easy, there are many people who discover they can't be with each other over time.
Things happen, & people change. If there's true misery, quit the marriage or else you're quitting LIFE.

Sad, but true. (and thanks for the compliment) its an absolute, 100% MUST that kids be taught responsibility, or the big, bad world will eat them alive when they turn 18 and get on their own. Dont get me wrong, I spoil mine terribly, but as for giving her money, etc. she gets the same allowance each week (although I admit to giving $10 per A on her grade card, to encourage the A's) and that alone wipes me out during the school yr. But, I've also taught her to pick up behind herself and dont do everything for her myself (not when it's her mess and she's capable) and she doesnt talk to me like I'm **** and wipe her feet on me like alot of todays kids do. For her age, she's quite mature, and she's an only child (and will remain so) so of course she's a bit spoiled, but knows better than to take the things I give her for granted. I'm trying anyway...... :D

Yeah, spoiled might not be the work I'm looking for. Well, I guess it is, but not in the sense that you buy your kid a ton of birthday presents or reward them for good grades and that. I mean, that sort of thing is more like "old-fashioned" spoiling. What's wrong is those parents that their kids have whatever they want, whenver they want, just because they want it for that split second. Like the world is just going to acommodate you like that for the rest of your life.

Anyway, I know you understand what I'm saying, but I just wanted to clear that up in case people think I'm going to feed my future kids bread and water and get them coal for Christmas.

If you loved you spouse enough to make the vows then you should love them enough to work on making the marriage work. Marriage is not easy. It takes communication and a certain amount of compromise, but it's far more rewarding and far less painful then going through a divorce proceeding. And if you have kids the stakes are much higher. When parents get divorced, especially if it's a nasty one, they tear a good chunk of their child's heart and soul out in the process.

Things don't just happen, and people don't just change in a vaccumm. With a little effort and communication a marriage need not turn into misery.

I love kids. I want a daughter, but I want her to never grow beyond like 12 where she dates and crap, that'll be what kills me. In that regard, sons would definitely be easier to raise.

Kids are the most honest, least fake people in the world. They'll tell everything like they see it and not hide anything. As they grow, parents suppress them, punish them for their honesty, tell them to stop being imaginative.

I'll try being a great father. I'd settle for being a decent one. And husband, if I'm married. I don't know about that one anymore.

Cheating is wrong, I'd never do it. There's no excuse to cheat on a girlfriend or boyfriend. Just break up. Husband/wife, at least announce that you want a divorce first and start the process.


....Do you consider it cheating if the husband or wife allows the other party to bang other people? Also, if you say that you won't cheat and think that it will stay that way for the rest of your life your probably fooling yourself. So if you have a girlfriend that you have had for like two weeks and the hottest girl in the world gets naked in front of you and wants you to **** you would turn her down? Man, I bet 99.999999999% of the hetero male population would **** the chick in question.

....Do you consider it cheating if the husband or wife allows the other party to bang other people? Also, if you say that you won't cheat and think that it will stay that way for the rest of your life your probably fooling yourself. So if you have a girlfriend that you have had for like two weeks and the hottest girl in the world gets naked in front of you and wants you to **** you would turn her down? Man, I bet 99.999999999% of the hetero male population would **** the chick in question.

Just ask Frank Gifford, hahahaha

If you loved you spouse enough to make the vows then you should love them enough to work on making the marriage work. Marriage is not easy. It takes communication and a certain amount of compromise, but it's far more rewarding and far less painful then going through a divorce proceeding. And if you have kids the stakes are much higher. When parents get divorced, especially if it's a nasty one, they tear a good chunk of their child's heart and soul out in the process.

Things don't just happen, and people don't just change in a vaccumm. With a little effort and communication a marriage need not turn into misery.


AMEN!!!! :)

If you loved you spouse enough to make the vows then you should love them enough to work on making the marriage work. Marriage is not easy. It takes communication and a certain amount of compromise, but it's far more rewarding and far less painful then going through a divorce proceeding. And if you have kids the stakes are much higher. When parents get divorced, especially if it's a nasty one, they tear a good chunk of their child's heart and soul out in the process.

Things don't just happen, and people don't just change in a vaccumm. With a little effort and communication a marriage need not turn into misery.

I'm friends with a lot of married women. Most are miserable. They're miserable because there is no communication. Their husbands stop trying, & when the woman wants to know why, the guy shrugs her off...
If the guys aren't communicating then, will they ever ? Should the woman spend the rest of her life waiting, while resenting this person more & more? Are the kids better off seeing two miserable people together, or seeing them happier apart ?
One of the best times of my life was when my mother FINALLY left my father.
The greatest tension in my life, was over. I got to see my mother free....able to go & pursue true happiness, however she found it.
She was never going to end up happy with that schlub.

Actually MD's post was good until the part about divorce. You shouldn't make vows unless you are prepared to honor them. That's a big part of the problem in America.

What part about divorce? Are you saying if one cheats on the other, the other is obligated to stay married? I disagree with that. And yeah, I don't really think someone should get divorced cause they get horny for another person, I meant if they're going to go for another person they should divorce first.

Cheating simply isn't acceptable in my book. If one cheats, they're breaking the vows, so at that point the marriage is tainted. I've zero tolerance for cheating.

And if its a bad marriage, kids are worse off being stuck in the middle of two fighting parents. I'm from divorced parents that still hate each other today. Really ugly divorce. Believe me, I'm glad they're divorced.

I'll agree that people do give up too easily on a marriage. People are also too easily willing to get married. If you don't mean it, you shouldn't get married, absolutely. Forever is a long time.

I don't have any stats to back me up or anything, but I really have a bad feeling that the current generation of parents (not all of them, of course, since you sound like you're a great mom, tracylee) is setting us up for a disaster of epic proportions when all their kids grow up. I've actually done a bit of reading about this. So many parents these days hand over wads of cash or even credit cards for their kids to spend at the mall every weekend. I mean, what the hell! They also obsess over their kids and make them think that their practically gods. I hear people like that at work. I mean, of course you love your kids, but they screw their kids up by practically worshipping them.

I mean, already you can see the effects this has had on kids that were raised about 5-10 years ago, when things were nearly as bad. People in their 20s have record levels of debt, spend everything they earn and buy giant houses that they can't afford on interest-only mortgages. It's insane. Apparently people entering the workforce these days are coming in with a ridiculous sense of entitlement...they want huge salaries and promotions and that right away. They live rich even though they're not.

And I think parents now are even worse, I can't imagine how the current crop of kids is going to turn out.

I agree. The majority of people are not fit to be parents. As a former teacher, one of the saddest changes I've seen occurring is this refusal on the part of today's kids and on the part of many of today's adults to accept responsibility/blame for their own actions. If a kid fails a test it is never her or his fault. It's always "I didn't have enough time to study" or "my friend was going through a crisis and I had to be there for him" or some other excuse that my teachers would have laughed at. But these kids have their parents right beside them going to the principal or even superintendent demanding they get a retake. I even saw an example of a kid punching a pregnant teacher in the stomach and when he was suspended his mom went to the District office and threatened to sue the school. Her claim was that it was the teacher's fault for "getting in my boy's face when he was mad". That's just a very small example of a much larger problem. We even see murderers and rapist trying to claim that it was the fault of their upbringing by abusive parents, and therefore their sentence should be reduced. Fatass kids try to sue McDonalds for selling them fatty foods instead of taking responsibility for constantly stuffing their face and smokers sue tabacco companies even though warning labels have been on the side of the package since the 50's. It's always somebody or something else's fault these days. And the legal and medical community is making a fortune off of it. This whole ADD craze is completely out of control. As soon as a kid gets a "D" on his report card he is tested for ADD. No parent wants to accept that thier kid might not be the brightest kid, or perhaps just a lazy kid. The blame must lie elsewhere. I could go on and on but I will stop now...

It's a sad situation we are living in and it's getting worse.

....Do you consider it cheating if the husband or wife allows the other party to bang other people? Also, if you say that you won't cheat and think that it will stay that way for the rest of your life your probably fooling yourself. So if you have a girlfriend that you have had for like two weeks and the hottest girl in the world gets naked in front of you and wants you to **** you would turn her down? Man, I bet 99.999999999% of the hetero male population would **** the chick in question.

I would absolutely turn her down, I don't care. I've been in the theatre department and had plenty of opportunities to score while I was dating a girl. When I was directing this One Act play, entitled Dutchman by Amiri Baraka (excellent play, btw), I had to cast a black guy and a white girl. The girl I cast was sooooooo ****ing good looking. I'm talking model hot. She'd hold her own in the looks department with that Vida ***** everyone keeps posting, though she was blond.

A couple times, she wanted to **** me. Yes, I was definitely turned on, but I didn't **** her. And since the play only had 2 actors, there were several times where I was alone with her, going over lines, or just teaching her some fundamentals of acting. And I mean we rehearsed some of the physical parts of that play. She had to put her leg around me and ****. You better believe I was hard, but I stayed disciplined and didn't cheat.

And yes, I consider it cheating if the spouse allows the other party to bang others. Like swingers. They're cheating on each other. I'm of the believe that sex is adultery and its unacceptable. I don't see how anybody lives like that. I wouldn't.

Yeah, spoiled might not be the work I'm looking for. Well, I guess it is, but not in the sense that you buy your kid a ton of birthday presents or reward them for good grades and that. I mean, that sort of thing is more like "old-fashioned" spoiling. What's wrong is those parents that their kids have whatever they want, whenver they want, just because they want it for that split second. Like the world is just going to acommodate you like that for the rest of your life.

Anyway, I know you understand what I'm saying, but I just wanted to clear that up in case people think I'm going to feed my future kids bread and water and get them coal for Christmas.

lol, I understand exactly what youre saying, and agree completely. My kid is only 12 and wants her own cell phone...I nixed that right away. To me, thats too much spoiling, for one that age.
I gave mine coal just last Christmas! :D

I would absolutely turn her down, I don't care. I've been in the theatre department and had plenty of opportunities to score while I was dating a girl. When I was directing this One Act play, entitled Dutchman by Amiri Baraka (excellent play, btw), I had to cast a black guy and a white girl. The girl I cast was sooooooo ****ing good looking. I'm talking model hot. She'd hold her own in the looks department with that Vida ***** everyone keeps posting, though she was blond.

A couple times, she wanted to **** me. Yes, I was definitely turned on, but I didn't **** her. And since the play only had 2 actors, there were several times where I was alone with her, going over lines, or just teaching her some fundamentals of acting. And I mean we rehearsed some of the physical parts of that play. She had to put her leg around me and ****. You better believe I was hard, but I stayed disciplined and didn't cheat.

And yes, I consider it cheating if the spouse allows the other party to bang others. Like swingers. They're cheating on each other. I'm of the believe that sex is adultery and its unacceptable. I don't see how anybody lives like that. I wouldn't.


....I would actually be open minded to the swingers part but my wife would never go for it in a million years. It's probably a good thing to. She has sense enough to keep both of us out of trouble.

I'm friends with a lot of married women. Most are miserable. They're miserable because there is no communication. Their husbands stop trying, & when the woman wants to know why, the guy shrugs her off...
If the guys aren't communicating then, will they ever ? Should the woman spend the rest of her life waiting, while resenting this person more & more? Are the kids better off seeing two miserable people together, or seeing them happier apart ?
One of the best times of my life was when my mother FINALLY left my father.
The greatest tension in my life, was over. I got to see my mother free....able to go & pursue true happiness, however she found it.
She was never going to end up happy with that schlub.

2 miserable parents that stay with each other make miserable kids. All children want their parents to stay together, UNLESS they make each others life hell. kids pick up on everythign their parents feel, so misery isnt somethign I recommend either..the kids do adjust in time to the separation if both shower that child with love and care, and spend equal amounts of time with them. Also, if the parents can remain friends then the child will be much happier. Theres no happy people in a loveless marriage, kids or otherwise.

....I would actually be open minded to the swingers part but my wife would never go for it in a million years. It's probably a good thing to. She has sense enough to keep both of us out of trouble.

Well see its not like I don't desire other women when in a relationship, its that it just isn't fair to the girl I'm with. Cause I'm like, okay I don't want her ****ing around cause that'd hurt me. So I'm not going to do it to her. It'd be hypocritical and just plain wrong.

everyone has been a kid before so just tolerate them like people did to you when you were a kid.

I would absolutely turn her down, I don't care. I've been in the theatre department and had plenty of opportunities to score while I was dating a girl. When I was directing this One Act play, entitled Dutchman by Amiri Baraka (excellent play, btw), I had to cast a black guy and a white girl. The girl I cast was sooooooo ****ing good looking. I'm talking model hot. She'd hold her own in the looks department with that Vida ***** everyone keeps posting, though she was blond.

A couple times, she wanted to **** me. Yes, I was definitely turned on, but I didn't **** her. And since the play only had 2 actors, there were several times where I was alone with her, going over lines, or just teaching her some fundamentals of acting. And I mean we rehearsed some of the physical parts of that play. She had to put her leg around me and ****. You better believe I was hard, but I stayed disciplined and didn't cheat.

And yes, I consider it cheating if the spouse allows the other party to bang others. Like swingers. They're cheating on each other. I'm of the believe that sex is adultery and its unacceptable. I don't see how anybody lives like that. I wouldn't.

On all these issues you and I are so completely in sync its damn scary! :D People that are supposed to be in love dont want someone else..thats bull. Cheating is cheating, regardless of approval

i like kids, i wanna have kids, maybe 5 or 6. Train the boys in MMA and basketball, and the girls, swimming and tennis.

:cool: No I'm not goth,
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are you sure?

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are you sure?
looks like she's from a dark and sinister movie. :rolleyes:

All goths say they aren't goths.

however.


I don't think BC is, she isnt depressed enough.

i like kids, i wanna have kids, maybe 5 or 6. Train the boys in MMA and basketball, and the girls, swimming and tennis.
Hey AI, do you think the kids will like you BRO??? hehehehehe