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View Full Version : Top 5 Middleweights? Barnburner 08-11-2010, 10:27 AM Now Robinson was an excellent ubeatable Welterweight but at middleweight he was very beatable. 1.Marvin Hagler 2.Harry Greb 3.Sugar Ray Robinson 4.Carlos Monzon 5.Stanley Ketchel NChristo 08-11-2010, 10:28 AM First 4 is a given, can never decide what order to put them in though, Carlos Monzon Harry Greb Ray Robinson Marvelous Marvin Hagler 5. Bernard Hopkins frankenfrank 08-11-2010, 10:32 AM Marvin Hagler Sam Langford Carlos Monzon Ray Robinson Harry Greb I had tough time picking Greb over James Toney. Hopkins has nothing to do with an all time top10 MW list. Barnburner 08-11-2010, 10:32 AM First 4 is a given, can never decide what order to put them in though, Carlos Monzon Harry Greb Ray Robinson Marvelous Marvin Hagler 5. Bernard Hopkins Was strugling to decide between Ketchel and Hopkins. Tyson. 08-11-2010, 10:34 AM 1. RJJ 2. Hopkins 3. Hagler 4. SRR 5. Monzon THE REED™ 08-11-2010, 10:41 AM 1. RJJ 2. Hopkins 3. Hagler 4. SRR 5. Monzon You can't put Roy at the top of the MW list. He grabbed a vacant title by beating Hopkins and then he was out... Tyson. 08-11-2010, 10:42 AM You can't put Roy at the top of the MW list. He grabbed a vacant title by beating Hopkins and then he was out... My lists based on prime ability. Noone can beat a prime RJJ. NChristo 08-11-2010, 10:44 AM My lists based on prime ability. Noone can beat a prime RJJ. So what is he doing on a MW list ?. THE REED™ 08-11-2010, 10:44 AM My lists based on prime ability. Noone can beat a prime RJJ. He was at his best at SMW... he was still green during his MW run... he was 21-0 when he fought Bernard.. Tyson. 08-11-2010, 10:47 AM He was at his best at SMW... he was still green during his MW run... he was 21-0 when he fought Bernard.. Even a green Roy Jones JR beats any middleweight. Barnburner 08-11-2010, 10:56 AM Even a green Roy Jones JR beats any middleweight. I believe Hagler would beat Jones at middleweight personally. Hagler was an amazing ring tactician who was an expert at cutting off the ring, in my opinion he would make Roy Jones' speed redundant pressure him all night, wear him down then pounce in the 11th for a TKO. THE REED™ 08-11-2010, 10:57 AM Even a green Roy Jones JR beats any middleweight. The Hagler that fought Hearns might take him out... actually, it's quite likely. The Hagler that fought Leonard might lose.. Barnburner 08-11-2010, 11:11 AM Hagler that fought Leonard was past his prime. Did you see him in the Mugabe fight before it, got hit way to much the fact that he had heart and grit probably helped him more than anyhting in that fight. THE REED™ 08-11-2010, 11:16 AM Hagler that fought Leonard was past his prime. Did you see him in the Mugabe fight before it, got hit way to much the fact that he had heart and grit probably helped him more than anyhting in that fight. That's why I mentioned it.. D-MiZe 08-11-2010, 11:22 AM My lists based on prime ability. Noone can beat a prime RJJ. :rofl: :rofl: SBleeder 08-11-2010, 11:53 AM SRR was the greatest fighter ever to fight at middleweight, but basing my list solely on middleweight accomplishments: 1. Harry Greb 2. Carlos Monzon 3. Sugar Ray Robinson 4. Dick Tiger 5. Marvin Hagler sonnyboyx2 08-11-2010, 12:34 PM Robinson Cerdan Jones Jr Steele Ketchel MeccaOfBoxing 08-11-2010, 12:48 PM Robinson Cerdan Jones Jr Steele Ketchel Why no Monzon, Hagler or Greb? SBleeder 08-11-2010, 01:25 PM Why no love for Dick Tiger in this thread? ANDREW ANUBIS 08-11-2010, 01:32 PM My top 5 1. Sugar ray robinson 2. Marvin hagler 3. Carlos monzon 4. Mercel cerdan 5. Stanley ketchel cerdan seems forgotten by everyone he was a tremendous fighter and puncher and should be remembered better than he is i think he only lost a few fights in over a hundred contests ANDREW ANUBIS 08-11-2010, 01:34 PM Well said two diffrent haglers boxing boy 08-11-2010, 04:14 PM Greb Langford SRR Ketchel Hagler/Monzon GJC 08-11-2010, 04:34 PM Greb Langford SRR Ketchel Hagler/Monzon Good list, I've always liked Langford at MW. Don't like Hopkins but given his record you'd have to throw him in the mix too. frankenfrank 08-11-2010, 05:29 PM SRR was the greatest fighter ever to fight at middleweight, but basing my list solely on middleweight accomplishments: 1. Harry Greb 2. Carlos Monzon 3. Sugar Ray Robinson 4. Dick Tiger 5. Marvin Hagler Wrong , Sam Langford is the greatest fighter ever to fight at middleweight . frankenfrank 08-11-2010, 05:32 PM Good list, I've always liked Langford at MW. Don't like Hopkins but given his record you'd have to throw him in the mix too. What record ? losing twice to a never was Jermain Taylor that besides losing to Pavlik (*2) , Froch and Abraham the way he did , he also deserved to lose to Cory Spinks and Ronald Wright also ? GJC 08-11-2010, 06:06 PM What record ? losing twice to a never was Jermain Taylor that besides losing to Pavlik (*2) , Froch and Abraham the way he did , he also deserved to lose to Cory Spinks and Ronald Wright also ? Too uppity for you? Big though thought you liked big fighters? Had a few more fights at MW than Langford who lets be honest you only like because he fought and beat guys bigger than himself. frankenfrank 08-12-2010, 05:44 AM Too uppity for you? Big Big but weak and you ignored the glory in his achievements against Jermain Taylor. He needed to be the dirtiest fighter of the last 50 years at least to achieve his poor achievements , because being big was not enough for his lack of talent. His talent was in his ability to foul . though thought you liked big fighters? Wrong again. Had a few more fights at MW than Langford who lets be honest you only like because he fought and beat guys bigger than himself. True here. He KOd many guys much bigger than himself and was seldom stopped himself. erikmorales 08-12-2010, 05:50 AM I think James toney deserves a mention, he would give any mw in history some problems poet682006 08-12-2010, 09:19 AM 01. Ray Robinson 02. Sam Langford 03. Bob Fitzsimmons 04. Marvin Hagler 05. Stanley Ketchel |