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Barn
08-11-2010, 08:25 AM
My favourite trainer has to be Emmanuel Steward.
He just seems like a pretty nice guy who lives and breaths boxing.
I also liked the fact he stayed with Hearns from the day he started boxing rather than being employed.

KlownvonnomaD
08-11-2010, 08:33 AM
I'd probably say Steward as well, he's a bit of a mercenary.
But he definately knows what he's doing.

I suppose the legend that is Cus D'amato has to be up there too.

NChristo
08-11-2010, 08:42 AM
George Benton, Ray Arcel and Luis Garcia.

Ziggy Stardust
08-11-2010, 09:45 AM
Eddie Futch and Ray Arcel with a shout out to Jack Blackburn.

Poet

Stone Roses!
08-11-2010, 09:47 AM
Norman Stone and Jack Loew. :lol1:

mrboxer
08-11-2010, 09:51 AM
My favourite trainer has to be Emmanuel Steward.
He just seems like a pretty nice guy who lives and breaths boxing.
I also liked the fact he stayed with Hearns from the day he started boxing rather than being employed.i really do not have any favorite trainers,i dont think trainers bring anything to the table when it comes to actual helping a fighter in winning a fight,trainers wrap the hands tie the gloves and hold the water bottle and clear the sweat from the head of the fighter,and in training yell out time,i go to a fight to see the fighters i dont care who the trainer is,who the ref is,and who the promoter is,i like your list of favorite fighters,very impressive list:boxing:

Ziggy Stardust
08-11-2010, 09:52 AM
i really do not have any favorite trainers,i dont think trainers bring anything to the table when it comes to actual helping a fighter in winning a fight,trainers wrap the hands tie the gloves and hold the water bottle and clear the sweat from the head of the fighter,and in training yell out time,i go to a fight to see the fighters i dont care who the trainer is,who the ref is,and who the promoter is,i like your list of favorite fighters,very impressive list:boxing:

Then why post in this thread? :thinking9:

Poet

Stone Roses!
08-11-2010, 09:55 AM
Then why post in this thread? :thinking9:

Poet

To voice his POV (Point of View).

Tool.

Ziggy Stardust
08-11-2010, 09:57 AM
To voice his POI (Point of View).

Tool.

Eat hot death troll.

Stone Roses!
08-11-2010, 09:59 AM
Eat hot death troll.

The hostility, oooooooooh.

Relax lad.

It's just the internet.

Stone Roses!
08-11-2010, 10:00 AM
On a more serious note.

My favourite trainers are Roger Mayweather and Kevin Cunningham.

mrboxer
08-11-2010, 10:00 AM
Then why post in this thread? :thinking9:

Poetto give you my opinion,and to try and teach you what i know about boxing,as you can see from my posts there are very informative:boxing:

Stone Roses!
08-11-2010, 10:01 AM
On a more serious note.

My favourite trainers are Roger Mayweather and Kevin Cunningham.
Add Dundee to the list.

Ziggy Stardust
08-11-2010, 10:08 AM
to give you my opinion,and to try and teach you what i know about boxing,as you can see from my posts there are very informative:boxing:

If you don't like the subject there's no point in reponding to the thread other than spam it and irritate the people who ARE interested in the subject.

Poet

BennyST
08-11-2010, 10:16 AM
George Benton, Ray Arcel and Luis Garcia.

Eddie Futch and Ray Arcel with a shout out to Jack Blackburn.

Poet

Yep, agree with the Arcel and Futch. Great trainers. Freddie Brown is one of the most overlooked trainers of all time. He did as much training of any of his guys as the supposed 'trainer' and often more.

i really do not have any favorite trainers,i dont think trainers bring anything to the table when it comes to actual helping a fighter in winning a fight,trainers wrap the hands tie the gloves and hold the water bottle and clear the sweat from the head of the fighter,and in training yell out time,i go to a fight to see the fighters i dont care who the trainer is,who the ref is,and who the promoter is,i like your list of favorite fighters,very impressive list:boxing:

What a bizarre post. Trainers make or break a fighter. That's all there is to it. A fighter may still be good with a a great trainer but he will never make what he could of himself. A classic example, often used, is Duran. He was simply a madman. He just hated everything and wanted to hurt whoever was across the ring. But, without Brown and Arcel he would have been really good instead of one of the true legends of the ring. They taught him a hundred years of knowledge and he showed it along with that same savvy and savagery that was inborn in many of his great fights.

You need to have it in you to start with, but just as importantly, you need a great trainer to bring it out of you!

A real trainer is so, so, so, so much more than you just mentioned above. Freddie Brown lived in Duran's pocket for so long. He ate next to him, slept right next door, woke him up every morning, kept the hangers on away, made him work, yelled at him, coddled him, hit him.....was his father in all but blood and yet taught him more than a father would (at least in the literal sense) and was more strict with him.

Not many people know this but most close to Freddie (and Duran) are positive he died of heartache because of Duran's downfall after the Leonard rematch. He went into seclusion and became highly depressed and couldn't take it because it wasn't the person he brought up and taught. It's the saddest story in boxing I know of. Tragic ****. Brown was such a legend.

Or, for a fight you might have seen. If this doesn't help realise just what a trainer can do, then you're lost.

Katsidis/Casamayor: Casa started strong and knocked him down yes? Kats came back and hurt him to the body badly, before hurting him real bad and then putting him down because of a body shot. The next round Kats simply went head hunting from excitement. Started to shoot himself in the foot you know? A good trainer would have said "Hey! What are you doing? Forget the head! If you want to win this fight, and you can very quickly, keep a tight guard, get inside and go to the body. Everything to the body. You'll stop him if you go to the body!". Instead, what he got was something along the lines of (after the round in which he just lost everything that was going well for him) "Yeah mate, good. More of the same, more of the same. Take it up a notch now. Good, more of the same."

He was telling him how to lose the ****ing fight! That's what a trainer can do, and thinking different makes you ****ing daft! They are literally the difference between good and great, legendary and mediocre, champion and contender.....or contender and nobody.

Barn
08-11-2010, 10:18 AM
Yep, agree with the Arcel and Futch. Great trainers. Freddie Brown is one of the most overlooked trainers of all time. He did as much training of any of his guys as the supposed 'trainer' and often more.



What a bizarre post. Trainers make or break a fighter. That's all there is to it. A fighter may still be good with a a great trainer but he will never make what he could of himself. A classic example, often used, is Duran. He was simply a madman. He just hated everything and wanted to hurt whoever was across the ring. But, without Brown and Arcel he would have been really good instead of one of the true legends of the ring. They taught him a hundred years of knowledge and he showed it along with that same savagery in many of his great fights.

A real trainer is so, so, so, so, so much more than you just mentioned above. Freddie Brown lived in Duran's pocket for so long. He ate next to him, slept right next door, woke him up every morning, kept the hangers on away, made him work, yelled at him, coddled him, hit him.....was his father in all but blood and yet taught him more than a father and was more strict with him.

Not many people know this but most close to Freddie (and Duran) are positive he died of heartache because of Duran's downfall after the Leonard rematch. He went into seclusion and became highly depressed and couldn't take it because it wasn't the person he brought up and taught. It's the saddest story in boxing I know of. Tragic ****. Brown was such a legend.
Yeah I read the book "Four Kings" and when Duran wouldn't run Freddie would pack his bags and walk out and Duran would chase him shouting.
"No, no Freddie I run, I run" in his underwear. :)

sonnyboyx2
08-11-2010, 01:32 PM
Ray Arcel, Eddie Futch & Angelo Dundee

JAB5239
08-11-2010, 05:55 PM
i really do not have any favorite trainers,i dont think trainers bring anything to the table when it comes to actual helping a fighter in winning a fight,trainers wrap the hands tie the gloves and hold the water bottle and clear the sweat from the head of the fighter,and in training yell out time,i go to a fight to see the fighters i dont care who the trainer is,who the ref is,and who the promoter is,i like your list of favorite fighters,very impressive list:boxing:

Sorry but this is just ignorant. Anybody who has ever fought amateur or pro will tell you that having a trainer in your corner is essential. They see things you can't actually see while fighting and relay that to a fighter between rounds. They not only see your opponents mistakes, but your mistakes.

BigStereotype
08-11-2010, 06:12 PM
Brother Naazim Richardson: He's like a Nation of Islam version of Yogi Berra. He stole the show in Mayweather-Mosley 24/7.
Kevin Cunningham: Just love how he's so damn hood and he's not afraid to let the facts be heard.
Nacho Berestein: My main man's trainer.

titanium
08-11-2010, 07:01 PM
Eddie Futch, Angelo Dundee and the team of Georgie Benton/LouDuva.