View Full Version : Winky Wright Vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr. at 154 in the works


Zab Super Judah
07-19-2005, 04:01 AM
holy shiet..is this a hoax??????? damn honestly i think mayweather at this point could beat mosley but could he be able to do as well as mosley in their 2nd fight?.. i dont know pretty boy vs winky..winky is big..but I would pay to see that

courtesy of fight news

Wright vs. Mayweather a Reality?
by Andre Courtemanche
What may have initially sounded like a crazy boxing rumor could turn out true. Unnamed sources close to the situation are reporting that promoters Bob Arum, Gary Shaw and Don King are in deep negotiations to match former undisputed junior middleweight boss Ronald “Winky” Wright and WBC Super Lightweight king “Pretty Boy” Floyd Mayweather, possibly in late October or November of this year. The fight will reportedly take place at a contracted weight of 154 lbs. Wright was last seen dominating Felix “Tito” Trinidad. In Mayweather’s last outing, he turned in a near-flawless performance in stopping former champ Arturo Gatti. More details to follow.

Cletus Funk
07-19-2005, 06:07 AM
Winky's initial reaction was to laugh at this matchup and I'd agree with him. He's far too slick for Floyd to be able to nullify his physical advantages. Can't see this fight happening to be honest. There are fighters he could beat at 154 but Wright's not one of them.

pinkpanther
07-19-2005, 07:16 AM
er.... yeah, don't worry about 147 Floyd - The arrrogance of this man is beyond belief, Winky would beat him up for fun.... I think Hatton would beat him at 140 but thats only an opinion

Bombardier
07-19-2005, 08:48 AM
I really don't know how everyone can discount Floyd so much. What has he done to make people doubt him? He's faster than anyone else out there, both on his feet and with his fists. He can't be caught and he lands with underrated power.

The thing is that what people don't seem to consider is that nobody wants to face Floyd right now...do you really think that he is ducking Hatton? Come on now, nobody at 140 and 147 is stupid enough to match up with him because he can embarass you. And I think he will beat Winky, god help me, though at least this is a match up where the other guy will have a chance.

TheBrownBomber22
07-19-2005, 09:08 AM
I really don't know how everyone can discount Floyd so much. What has he done to make people doubt him? He's faster than anyone else out there, both on his feet and with his fists. He can't be caught and he lands with underrated power.

The thing is that what people don't seem to consider is that nobody wants to face Floyd right now...do you really think that he is ducking Hatton? Come on now, nobody at 140 and 147 is stupid enough to match up with him because he can embarass you. And I think he will beat Winky, god help me, though at least this is a match up where the other guy will have a chance.

Nice post, you are not alone.

Ta Khent
07-19-2005, 09:13 AM
I really don't know how everyone can discount Floyd so much. What has he done to make people doubt him? He's faster than anyone else out there, both on his feet and with his fists. He can't be caught and he lands with underrated power.

The thing is that what people don't seem to consider is that nobody wants to face Floyd right now...do you really think that he is ducking Hatton? Come on now, nobody at 140 and 147 is stupid enough to match up with him because he can embarass you. And I think he will beat Winky, god help me, though at least this is a match up where the other guy will have a chance.

I feel the same way. I truly believe that Floyd can beat Winky. Winky has never faced anyone the caliber of Floyd before.

TheEvilSaint
07-19-2005, 09:14 AM
hes gonna have to put on 14lbs. to fight winky... thats a LOT of weight for a fighter.

CUFreeze
07-19-2005, 09:28 AM
This is a VERY risky fight for Mayweather...and that is why I like it. If he wins there will be no argument, he is the man. If he loses he might be in a little bit of trouble. He already had problems getting PPV fights (remember Gatti was his first for a reason) and with 1 loss on his record he will no longer be superman. If he goes in there and gets KTFO he loses that invincibility that Tyson lost with Buster. a VERY risky fight for Floyd.

pinkpanther
07-19-2005, 09:35 AM
I really don't know how everyone can discount Floyd so much. What has he done to make people doubt him? He's faster than anyone else out there, both on his feet and with his fists. He can't be caught and he lands with underrated power.

The thing is that what people don't seem to consider is that nobody wants to face Floyd right now...do you really think that he is ducking Hatton? Come on now, nobody at 140 and 147 is stupid enough to match up with him because he can embarass you. And I think he will beat Winky, god help me, though at least this is a match up where the other guy will have a chance.

I wasn't suggesting he was ducking Hatton - it would be a great fight, Mayweather would never have felt that pressure before, he would not have the time to get his shots off.

Back on the Winky tilt, if he put the weight on that would slow him dramatically, as the idea trhat Winky has never fought anybody in that class I refer you to Trinidad and Mosley. The job Winky did on Tito was awsome - not dramatic but just a boxing lesson.
What sould have been said is that Maywreather has never fought anybody in Winky's class!

tri4ben2
07-19-2005, 09:41 AM
While Winky will be the betting favorite for this fight, this will end up being a much more competitive fight than either Winky-Tito or PBF-Gatti. I guess that is not saying much.

This also has a chance of being a jabbing contest and for PBF to be running around the ring like a madman.

Bombardier
07-19-2005, 09:47 AM
I wasn't suggesting he was ducking Hatton - it would be a great fight, Mayweather would never have felt that pressure before, he would not have the time to get his shots off.

Back on the Winky tilt, if he put the weight on that would slow him dramatically, as the idea trhat Winky has never fought anybody in that class I refer you to Trinidad and Mosley. The job Winky did on Tito was awsome - not dramatic but just a boxing lesson.
What sould have been said is that Maywreather has never fought anybody in Winky's class!

Oh yeah, sorry, when I wrote "you" I didn't mean you personally, it was just a generic example. Damn it, I'm always getting myself into trouble doing that :) .

As for the Winky fight, I know what you're saying but we'll just have to wait and see how the weight-gain affects Floyd. He has a small frame even for 140 so it might be tough, but his conditioning is incredible so he has a good chance of working things out.

The Tito fight was one of the most impressive things I've seen in a while, though it's been well-known for years that Trinidad has many flaws in his game. Bernard killed him as well and DLH came close if he would have stopped dancing around in those last rounds. Thing is too that Floyd's handspeed beat Trinidad and he is quick enough to get in and out while avoiding Winky's jab. It would be a tough tough test, at any rate.

jabsRstiff
07-19-2005, 09:53 AM
Floyd is that one-in-a-million talent who can transcend the weight classes.

I wouldn't expect him to beat Wright, but it wouldn't shock me to see him do it !

As for him "ducking" 140 lbers by facing Winky....do you know how STUPID that sounds ?
Winky is better lb4lb. than all those 140lbers...& is 14lbs heavier !


BOLD MOVE on Floyd's part.
Daring to be great, in an era where fighters are most concerned about just keeping what they have.

Soldier01
07-19-2005, 10:34 AM
That's 14 pounds that Mayweather has to go up to. It would be interesting to see if he can keep his speed and agility at that weight. Imagine if he gains this weight and ends up looking like DLH when he went up to fight sturm. (body wise)

jack_the_rippuh
07-19-2005, 11:02 AM
He doesn't have to come in at the the full 14lbs. I think we'll see Mayweather showing his full talent in this fight and will win a comfortable UD. If he beats Wright he easily surpasses the golden boy, félix trinidad, shane mosley, and probably lots of others as being the man of this era.

Soldier01
07-19-2005, 11:08 AM
He doesn't have to come in at the the full 14lbs. I think we'll see Mayweather showing his full talent in this fight and will win a comfortable UD. If he beats Wright he easily surpasses the golden boy, félix trinidad, shane mosley, and probably lots of others as being the man of this era.

I agree with you in the sense that he would surpass these other guys but, you seem to be thinking as if he was to fight Winky it would be a breeze. Sure Mayweather's talented but, he's coming up to fight a guy who's a great technical fighter and Winky will be fighting at his natural weight or should I say the weight that he's more comfortable fighting in.

I don't think it would be a walk in the park for Floyd. Winky by decision or late KO. IMO, Winky would open to the smaller mayweather and land some big punches.

snipes12
07-19-2005, 11:13 AM
very insane decision for floyd if it ever happens .. id rather see floyd collecting all belts in 140 than watch him fell down a loss to winky

Truth
07-19-2005, 11:27 AM
holy shiet..is this a hoax??????? damn honestly i think mayweather at this point could beat mosley but could he be able to do as well as mosley in their 2nd fight?.. i dont know pretty boy vs winky..winky is big..but I would pay to see that

courtesy of fight news

Wright vs. Mayweather a Reality?
by Andre Courtemanche
What may have initially sounded like a crazy boxing rumor could turn out true. Unnamed sources close to the situation are reporting that promoters Bob Arum, Gary Shaw and Don King are in deep negotiations to match former undisputed junior middleweight boss Ronald “Winky” Wright and WBC Super Lightweight king “Pretty Boy” Floyd Mayweather, possibly in late October or November of this year. The fight will reportedly take place at a contracted weight of 154 lbs. Wright was last seen dominating Felix “Tito” Trinidad. In Mayweather’s last outing, he turned in a near-flawless performance in stopping former champ Arturo Gatti. More details to follow.

HELL YEAH!!Floyd is going to take a big chance...but it might be worth it.

Truth
07-19-2005, 11:32 AM
I hope everyone here doubts Mayweather but IF he wins I want everyone to give him with the respect he deserves.

Truth
07-19-2005, 11:33 AM
Floyd is that one-in-a-million talent who can transcend the weight classes.

I wouldn't expect him to beat Wright, but it wouldn't shock me to see him do it !

As for him "ducking" 140 lbers by facing Winky....do you know how STUPID that sounds ?
Winky is better lb4lb. than all those 140lbers...& is 14lbs heavier !


BOLD MOVE on Floyd's part.
Daring to be great, in an era where fighters are most concerned about just keeping what they have.

Exactly...good post...

riz
07-19-2005, 11:44 AM
as good as mayweather is, he aint that good

oj21
07-19-2005, 11:45 AM
I'm one of the biggest Mayweather haters out there, but damn would I love to see this fight. Floyd has said on numerous occasions that he wants to fight the best around, and I thought he was just blowing smoke up every one's ass. If this fight happens wether he wins or loses I will give him props for taking this fight against a heavier, highly skilled, defensive guru thatis Winky Wright. And another thing he is the one asking for this fight, what balls on this kid.

riz
07-19-2005, 11:47 AM
Exactly...good post...
agreed.... PBF has teh biggest ego of all time tho lol

Soldier01
07-19-2005, 11:47 AM
I hope everyone here doubts Mayweather but IF he wins I want everyone to give him with the respect he deserves.

I'll be one of the first people to give him his props if he pulls it off. I have nothing against Mayweather.

Truth
07-19-2005, 11:47 AM
I'm one of the biggest Mayweather haters out there, but damn would I love to see this fight. Floyd has said on numerous occasions that he wants to fight the best around, and I thought he was just blowing smoke up every one's ass. If this fight happens wether he wins or loses I will give him props for taking this fight against a heavier, highly skilled, defensive guru thatis Winky Wright. And another thing he is the one asking for this fight, what balls on this kid.

I agree this is great move because its a huge risk and boxing fans like it when a fighter takes chances.

jchavez12345
07-19-2005, 11:47 AM
as good as mayweather is, he aint that good


i think he is... i would be on mayweathers side if/when this fight happens

Truth
07-19-2005, 11:49 AM
i think he is... i would be on mayweathers side if/when this fight happens

Hey you know that made me think...Mayweather might actually make some more fans for taking such a tough fight. The public loves an underdog...

Prize_Fighter2K5
07-19-2005, 11:50 AM
if winky were to fight floyed at 154...winky will dominate because all that weight floyed would have to gain, he wouldent be as fast as he is at 140

Truth
07-19-2005, 11:51 AM
if winky were to fight floyed at 154...winky will dominate because all that weight floyed would have to gain, he wouldent be as fast as he is at 140

I don't know who I would pick yet, I think I would wait till like the week of the fight to make a predcition.

jack_the_rippuh
07-19-2005, 11:58 AM
How garbage would Félix Trinidad look if Floyd Mayweather Jr. beat Winky.

Truth
07-19-2005, 11:59 AM
How garbage would Félix Trinidad look if Floyd Mayweather Jr. beat Winky.

LOL:haha:that would be pretty bad for Tito's rep...

bigdlb12
07-19-2005, 12:17 PM
floyd needs to fight @ 140 Kostya (he is still and bad man) Hatton or cotto, even tho I think he'll beat cotto still a good fight

zman
07-19-2005, 12:18 PM
Unless your fighting style or train a boxer whose fighting style is speed, I don't think you could really speak on behalf of a fast fighter. Mayweather is going to be crazy fast with the 14lbs relative to Winky, that won't change. No matter what weight class he fights at, he will be very fast compared to the guy in the other corner. My only fear for mayweather would be Winky's ability to stand firm defensivly and remaining capable of releasing power shots while mayweather throws a flurry. Winky's jab won't be much of a factor because as an "inside" fighter your jab will chase away the fast footed dancer, which you don't want to do. Diego Corrales is a good example of what Winky's style will look like, just better/faster/stronger. I'm looking forward to the 8th round on because the 14lbs may tire out mayweathers legs in the late rounds. Most boxers put on the weight midway through their training, which causes them to go through a lot of training at a lighter weight, so they don't get conditioned for the weight as well as they would if they put on the weight first. It'll be a good fight. Look for mayweather to dance, jump in tap tap tap, jump out and Winky to keep his hands up waiting for mayweather to jump in let out a few taps, then throw a few power shots. Enjoy :boxing:

Soldier01
07-19-2005, 12:29 PM
Unless your fighting style or train a boxer whose fighting style is speed, I don't think you could really speak on behalf of a fast fighter. Mayweather is going to be crazy fast with the 14lbs relative to Winky, that won't change. No matter what weight class he fights at, he will be very fast compared to the guy in the other corner. My only fear for mayweather would be Winky's ability to stand firm defensivly and remaining capable of releasing power shots while mayweather throws a flurry. Winky's jab won't be much of a factor because as an "inside" fighter your jab will chase away the fast footed dancer, which you don't want to do. Diego Corrales is a good example of what Winky's style will look like, just better/faster/stronger. I'm looking forward to the 8th round on because the 14lbs may tire out mayweathers legs in the late rounds. Most boxers put on the weight midway through their training, which causes them to go through a lot of training at a lighter weight, so they don't get conditioned for the weight as well as they would if they put on the weight first. It'll be a good fight. Look for mayweather to dance, jump in tap tap tap, jump out and Winky to keep his hands up waiting for mayweather to jump in let out a few taps, then throw a few power shots. Enjoy :boxing:

So how do you know that his speed won't change? Not everyone can carry their speed or punching power when they go up in weight.

guru
07-19-2005, 12:55 PM
i just dont think this fight is gonna happen... at least not this year...

Eman
07-19-2005, 01:09 PM
If mayweather wins i think he will be ranked among the all time greats automatically. i think floyd can pull it off. Winkys not a big puncher and his speed may allow him to get around winkys jab. i would love to see the betting odds in this fight.

Super_Lightweight
07-19-2005, 01:09 PM
Mosley was just as fast as Mayweather when he was 135 lbs, and when he fought Winky, speed was NOT a factor.

Floyd is a very good fighter, but there some problems if he weighs in at 154 lbs.

1) He will never be able to go back to 140.
2) Eventually someone at 154 will stp him, probably Winky if they fight.
3) He may not even be able to go back to 147 lbs after weighin 154 if it is solid muscle, or if he does he may never look as good as before (see Mosley).

If Floyd fights Winky weighing in at 145 lbs or less, I say it is a good move. Floyd has no business putting on a "real" 14 lbs. That would kill his career, if not vs Wright then some other way.

Also, Winky is a very physical fighter. He is defensively aggressive and pushes guys around when he wants to. Floyd would have to run too much I think to avoid this. If Floyd takes the fight, props to him though. I'd give him about a 25% chance to win.

oldgringo
07-19-2005, 01:24 PM
Mosley was just as fast as Mayweather when he was 135 lbs, and when he fought Winky, speed was NOT a factor.

Floyd is a very good fighter, but there some problems if he weighs in at 154 lbs.

1) He will never be able to go back to 140.
2) Eventually someone at 154 will stp him, probably Winky if they fight.
3) He may not even be able to go back to 147 lbs after weighin 154 if it is solid muscle, or if he does he may never look as good as before (see Mosley).

If Floyd fights Winky weighing in at 145 lbs or less, I say it is a good move. Floyd has no business putting on a "real" 14 lbs. That would kill his career, if not vs Wright then some other way.

Also, Winky is a very physical fighter. He is defensively aggressive and pushes guys around when he wants to. Floyd would have to run too much I think to avoid this. If Floyd takes the fight, props to him though. I'd give him about a 25% chance to win.


Hey we finally agree!

Good post. 14 pounds is a lot of weight, and while I don't think he'd put on the full 14 because it would hurt his abilites at 140/147, it will definitely slow him down against Wright.

Floyd may be an anomaly though. If he were to beat Winky then he'd have my full respect because the guy wants to go after the big dogs. We'll just have to wait and see.

Me personally betting on it, I'd put my money on a boring Wright UD, but hey I've gone 0-2 in my last two predictions so who knows.

Eman
07-19-2005, 01:40 PM
I agree with floyd having to come in weighting around what he weighs now. if that should happen i would give him about a 50% chance of winning.

guru
07-19-2005, 02:21 PM
i cant believe there are so many posts on this topic... why? cause this sh*t aint happening... floyd isn't moving up 2 weight classes and passing up bigger money fights with hatton, oscar and zab to fight wright... not to mention there's potential fights with chico, cotto, margorito, and shane too...

-Antonio-
07-19-2005, 02:39 PM
SO do you guys think this fight will be at all entertaining? or will Floyd bring something out of Winky.

Bombardier
07-19-2005, 03:16 PM
i cant believe there are so many posts on this topic... why? cause this sh*t aint happening... floyd isn't moving up 2 weight classes and passing up bigger money fights with hatton, oscar and zab to fight wright... not to mention there's potential fights with chico, cotto, margorito, and shane too...

haha, actually it sounds like this one has a slim chance of going off. Keep in mind too that now that all the furor from the Hopkins fight is dying down it's still the middle of the summer and there isn't much else to talk about.

Truth
07-19-2005, 03:29 PM
SO do you guys think this fight will be at all entertaining? or will Floyd bring something out of Winky.

Its entertaining because everyone thinks Floyd has no chance.

dino
07-19-2005, 04:05 PM
all u guys are dumb asses talking about 'this is a good matchup" winky wright could easily make 168...floyd can still make 135..this is a miss-match..winky is wayyy to big

Truth
07-19-2005, 04:10 PM
all u guys are dumb asses talking about 'this is a good matchup" winky wright could easily make 168...floyd can still make 135..this is a miss-match..winky is wayyy to big

Thats what great...everyone is going to pick against Floyd. :D

jack_the_rippuh
07-19-2005, 04:14 PM
We wouldn't want to see him get KTFO by a smaller man after beating a bigger man like Roy did, now would we?

http://members.aol.com/wolfman204/images/bowe%20doubled%20over%20by%20devastating%20low%20b low.jpg

Truth
07-19-2005, 04:16 PM
We wouldn't want to see him get KTFO by a smaller man after beating a bigger man like Roy did, now would we?

http://members.aol.com/wolfman204/images/bowe%20doubled%20over%20by%20devastating%20low%20b low.jpg

HEY NO DISSING ROY JONES!!! :mad: :D

tino
07-19-2005, 04:18 PM
this fight gonna happend .

mayweather - de la hoya happened , why wouldnt this fight happend ?

as for mayweather-klitschko , it s still a rumor ...

Gsand
07-19-2005, 05:32 PM
Winky would slowly beat him over 12 rounds although mayweather might sneak 2-3 rounds if its a highly tactical fight...but i reckon winky takes it easily enough, he may not be a huge puncher but medium 154 power translates into above average power against a fighter of 2-3 weightclasses lower

comepana
07-19-2005, 11:27 PM
If this fight happens I'd go with Mayweather all the way.Winky beat Tito and Mosley(both big names)way out of their primes.Tito was never the same after Nard neither were Sugar Shane after Forrest.Floyd is in his peak now, he's boxing skills are way over Winky's not mention he can handle bigger mans quite well.If Floyd come at fight nigh between 145-148 it will be an UD for Floyd over the Overrated Winky Wright. :boxing:

Sir_Jose
07-20-2005, 01:43 AM
Not only do I think Floyd beats Winky I think he makes it look easy.

Yes Winky is bigger, but he's not really that strong of a guy, he's not a guy who come sin and imposses himself on you. Winky is a layed back slick stylish boxer type.

Wright wont have the power to hurt Floyd either.

One think people need to remember when talking about this fight is that Floyd is not a small man he's 5'9 and has a 7'2 inch reach pretty much the same measurments as Winky.

You have two slick stylish boxer's execpt one is a good fighter the other is special.

I think Floyd outboxes him.

Seven
07-20-2005, 01:46 AM
Floyd would beat Winky easily. I would love to see this fight, but like someone else said I doubt Floyd moves up two weight classes just to fight Winky when he's got other big money fights that are in HIS weight division.

masterdirector
07-20-2005, 02:50 AM
Wow I didn't believe this for a second. Fight News should feel ashamed for reporting such crap. Will Mayweather vs. Wright happen eventually? Maybe, but doubtful. This year? **** no.

Wright isn't a real big name. If they wanted Mayweather against a big name 154 lb fighter, why not Vargas? Or better yet, Mayorga? Mayweather has a much better chance at beating either of them. And they're both certainly bigger names.

Oh on the match itself. I'd go for Floyd, but Winky would win. He's too damn big.

People can say Winky doesn't punch hard. They can say he wouldn't be bigger, but come on. Look at how much bigger Winky was than Trinidad! Now compare that to a blown up Mayweather. You think Winky don't punch hard? Imagine Mayweather trying to get through that tight defense. He couldn't get his arms to go through Winky's gloves. Winky would impose his size over Floyd and beat him.

If they were the same weight, I'd say Floyd, but just cause they'd physically weigh the same doesn't make them truly the same weight. Ask DLH.