View Full Version : Fighters who where homosexuall?


Biffen
08-06-2010, 11:46 AM
Has there been any champion who where gay? I know there where roumers about Muhammad ali when he first started as a pro becuse he turn down the hookers the pimp offering him free, then the started offering him men instead but he turn them down too, only traning for him.

I also read somwhere that where roumers about Marciano that he had an alternetiv sexuallety before he became champ but the roumers stopped when he was "the white savior" of the sport.

I also read here on this forum that David Haye had have sex whit men.

Anybody else?

SBleeder
08-06-2010, 11:52 AM
Just you. :twak:

Toney616
08-06-2010, 11:53 AM
Didn't you get banned recently....Magicman?

Vadrigar.
08-06-2010, 12:06 PM
Must be an ALT.

NChristo
08-06-2010, 12:16 PM
Just to humor the TS, Emile Griffith is the first openly gay world champion, don't know of any others of the top of my head.

Biffen
08-06-2010, 12:17 PM
No, Im not magicman.

I started this tread becuse I think is interesting. There treads about other things outside the ring like crim and so on. Why not discuss roumers and myth about fighters sexuallety?

frankenfrank
08-06-2010, 12:43 PM
Must be an ALT.

Wonder who is this ^^ one

TheGreatA
08-06-2010, 12:59 PM
Just to humor the TS, Emile Griffith is the first openly gay world champion, don't know of any others of the top of my head.

Aside from Griffith,

Panama Al Brown
Freddie Mills

The rest is unfounded rumours and speculation.

HaglerSteelChin
08-06-2010, 01:16 PM
We know that Hasim Rahman openly called Lennox Lewis gay, and after breaking up an engagment years ago there have been rumors about Lennox Lewis sexuality.

I am sure there are many gay boxers but many are still or stayed in the closet. It wouldn't be comfortable for them to open about it with the sport being known for "machismo.".

Sugarj
08-06-2010, 02:52 PM
There are very few who seem to be open about it. Though I dont doubt that there are many who might be bisexual OR may have partaken in homosexual activity.

I've heard rumours about Tommy Morrison, Mike Tyson and Emile Griffith having been involved in homosexual activity, but I'm sure they aren't/weren't gay as a preference to the ladies. I've heard stories about Tyson's prison life and about Morrison's mad orgies. Griffith seems to change his mind on the subject.

David Haye openly joked about it, though I think his joke referred to his boxing record rather than homosexual activity.

Chris Eubank can come across as a touch effeminate, but he was a true warrior in the ring with a family. I've never doubted his sexual preference.

Being openly gay could be very marketable for a decent fighter! A really flamboyant, *****y, preening showman entering the arena to YMCA booming out! I know its a crass stereotype, but it could sell alot of tickets especially if he was a good fighter!

NChristo
08-06-2010, 03:09 PM
David Haye openly joked about it, though I think his joke referred to his boxing record rather than homosexual activity.



David Haye said that he's slept with 200 women and 22 men or something, remember there being a thread made about it in NSB.

Mr Punch.
08-06-2010, 03:11 PM
Floyd Mayweather.

HaglerSteelChin
08-06-2010, 03:58 PM
Many wondered why Lewis got so defensive with Rahman about his alledged homosexuality check it out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99z45lXAo2o

Sugarj
08-06-2010, 05:11 PM
Hi NChristo, at the time David Haye said that, he had beaten 22 men in the ring.......that was his record at the time, it was a play on the word 'f##ked' from memory.

I'm not aware that David Haye is actually gay.

NChristo
08-06-2010, 05:15 PM
Hi NChristo, at the time David Haye said that, he had beaten 22 men in the ring.......that was his record at the time, it was a play on the word 'f##ked' from memory.

I'm not aware that David Haye is actually gay.

Ah k then, I didn't hear the full story or interview, just the NSB talk, didn't really think much of it though tbh, don't really care about this sort of thing.

GJC
08-06-2010, 05:23 PM
Aside from Griffith,

Freddie Mills

The rest is unfounded rumours and speculation.

Mills is rumour too he certainly wasn't openly gay if there was any truth to it.
Other rumours about Mills was that he was Jack the Stripper a serial killer of women, kind of the other extreme I guess.

Think it comes down to the circumstances of his suicide were a bit foggy so people have worked backwards as to why and gilded the lily a bit.

TheGreatA
08-06-2010, 05:50 PM
Mills is rumour too he certainly wasn't openly gay if there was any truth to it.
Other rumours about Mills was that he was Jack the Stripper a serial killer of women, kind of the other extreme I guess.

Think it comes down to the circumstances of his suicide were a bit foggy so people have worked backwards as to why and gilded the lily a bit.

You're right that it's unproven but I got the information from some fairly reliable people who seemed certain about it. I do realize though that there are a ton of rumours about Mills and it goes against what I said, but I thought I'd contribute to something other than the obvious. Everyone knows Griffith, and even in Griffith's case he continued to deny the allegations until his later years, and most probably know about Panama Al Brown by now.

When it comes to Lewis, Ali, Haye and others that have been named, there's absolutely nothing but made-up false rumours that can support these claims.

GJC
08-06-2010, 06:17 PM
You're right that it's unproven but I got the information from some fairly reliable people who seemed certain about it. I do realize though that there are a ton of rumours about Mills and it goes against what I said, but I thought I'd contribute to something other than the obvious. Everyone knows Griffith, and even in Griffith's case he continued to deny the allegations until his later years, and most probably know about Panama Al Brown by now.

When it comes to Lewis, Ali, Haye and others that have been named, there's absolutely nothing but made-up false rumours that can support these claims.
As someone who was in his prime in London around the time that Freddie took his life, there were so many rumours floating around about how as brave a fighter as Mills could take his own life.
Rope in the Kray twins (who were rumoured to have had a hand in his murder) who he socialised with, one being gay and 2+2=5.
I really don't think there was much to it than rumour mongering GreatA in all honesty but I guess we'll never know.
Trust me as reliable people have Mills down as Jack the Stripper!

frankenfrank
08-06-2010, 06:38 PM
There are very few who seem to be open about it. Though I dont doubt that there are many who might be bisexual OR may have partaken in homosexual activity.

I've heard rumours about Tommy Morrison, Mike Tyson and Emile Griffith having been involved in homosexual activity, but I'm sure they aren't/weren't gay as a preference to the ladies. I've heard stories about Tyson's prison life and about Morrison's mad orgies. Griffith seems to change his mind on the subject.

David Haye openly joked about it, though I think his joke referred to his boxing record rather than homosexual activity.

Chris Eubank can come across as a touch effeminate, but he was a true warrior in the ring with a family. I've never doubted his sexual preference.

Being openly gay could be very marketable for a decent fighter! A really flamboyant, *****y, preening showman entering the arena to YMCA booming out! I know its a crass stereotype, but it could sell alot of tickets especially if he was a good fighter!

David Haye said that he's slept with 200 women and 22 men or something, remember there being a thread made about it in NSB.

Hi NChristo, at the time David Haye said that, he had beaten 22 men in the ring.......that was his record at the time, it was a play on the word 'f##ked' from memory.

I'm not aware that David Haye is actually gay.

Sugarj , only now I understood your first quoted post and NChristo's post , you made it clear.

Ragnar Lothbrok
08-06-2010, 10:51 PM
ive heard about lennox as well. lennox doesnt have any kids & has never been married.

side note, reading the book of basketball by bill simmons. in it he claims that wilt chamberlain is gay. for all the talk of wilt sleeping with so many women, not a single teammate has ever seen wilt with a woman.

wilt also never married nor had a son & died alone.

HaglerSteelChin
08-06-2010, 11:04 PM
ive heard about lennox as well. lennox doesnt have any kids & has never been married.

side note, reading the book of basketball by bill simmons. in it he claims that wilt chamberlain is gay. for all the talk of wilt sleeping with so many women, not a single teammate has ever seen wilt with a woman.

wilt also never married nor had a son & died alone.

I believe Lewis eventually got married. Obviously, its not proof or not proof he had homosexual activity in the past, as many married men swing both directions. I think when he talked about opening up an underwear company after retirment and talked about the love of his body some took it as "strange". Here are two articles where he touches on the gay issue. One was when he was still fighting and the other post career.

http://www.salon.com/people/col/reit/2000/07/10/npmon

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/more_sport/article3300963.ece

tyger
08-07-2010, 02:36 AM
You have to disallow the rumors going around Las Vegas about Mayweather. Without proof or til he comes out it is just an issue for rumor control. Anyways you can't judge a fighter for what he does on his own time as long as no one gets hurt.

gamefrk
08-07-2010, 02:46 AM
Naseem Hamed?

lolivivi
08-07-2010, 04:30 AM
I came here because I love boxing, and love discussing everything about the sport. Most of the animosity stems from my comments about Mike Tyson.

SBleeder
08-07-2010, 10:30 AM
Why is this thread about queers now at 24 posts, while this older thread about defensive techniques (http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=412627) is only at 21 posts? Hmm.

BennyST
08-07-2010, 11:49 AM
Has there been any champion who where gay? I know there where roumers about Muhammad ali when he first started as a pro becuse he turn down the hookers the pimp offering him free, then the started offering him men instead but he turn them down too, only traning for him.

I also read somwhere that where roumers about Marciano that he had an alternetiv sexuallety before he became champ but the roumers stopped when he was "the white savior" of the sport.

I also read here on this forum that David Haye had have sex whit men.

Anybody else?

Damn homophobic bigot!

Toney616
08-07-2010, 06:03 PM
Why is this thread about queers now at 24 posts, while this older thread about defensive techniques (http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=412627) is only at 21 posts? Hmm.
good point:grumble::grumble:

Forza
08-07-2010, 06:59 PM
ODLH is extremely suspect. I wouldn't say he's full blown gay because he has had 2 wives and many kids, but I would not be surprised if he goes both ways.

Lewis has been seen with women, and just because he hasn't had any kids doesn't mean anything.

A coked out crazed mike tyson would probably **** a shemale in the ass but I doubt he was gay.

Ali? Not at all. Had strict morals. Lots of kids, lots of women.

David haye? He's said a few suspect things.

T.Horton
08-07-2010, 09:37 PM
ODLH is extremely suspect. I wouldn't say he's full blown gay because he has had 2 wives and many kids, but I would not be surprised if he goes both ways.

Lewis has been seen with women, and just because he hasn't had any kids doesn't mean anything.

A coked out crazed mike tyson would probably **** a shemale in the ass but I doubt he was gay.

Ali? Not at all. Had strict morals. Lots of kids, lots of women.

David haye? He's said a few suspect things.Lennox has at least one child - not that it means that he can't be gay but just wanted to clear that up.

SBleeder
08-07-2010, 10:41 PM
Lennox has at least one child - not that it means that he can't be gay but just wanted to clear that up.

Didn't Mike Tyson eat that youngster?

John Hue
08-07-2010, 11:05 PM
ODLH is extremely suspect. I wouldn't say he's full blown gay because he has had 2 wives and many kids, but I would not be surprised if he goes both ways.

Lewis has been seen with women, and just because he hasn't had any kids doesn't mean anything.

A coked out crazed mike tyson would probably **** a shemale in the ass but I doubt he was gay.

Ali? Not at all. Had strict morals. Lots of kids, lots of women.

David haye? He's said a few suspect things.

I agree with this. Lewis is naturally cautious and women especially wives can be damaging financially to wealthy people when it comes children and divorce. Lewis strikes me as a wise guy that was single minded during his career and would only marry when his career was over. Even then he would be cautious of gold diggers.

Forza
08-07-2010, 11:13 PM
Yeah lewis was smart, he knew not to randomly have kids with whores.

them_apples
08-08-2010, 01:28 AM
no, there aren't that many gay boxers. Gay people are just this generations fuked up folk. You can speculate all you want, only gay boxer I know of is Griffith.

Miburo
08-08-2010, 04:01 AM
Just as an aside, Griffith was never openly gay as some have claimed in this thread during his career. There was a lot of suspicion though, Kid Paret even called him a maricon before their fatal fight which some suspected enraged him to the point of trying to put a hurt on the guy.

prinzemanspopa
08-08-2010, 07:35 AM
Everyone in the british media used to think Lewis was a poof.He was rarely,if ever,seen in public alongside a woman.Rahman didn't get that jibe from nowhere.It was always speculated,especially in the late 90's.


If you're a man and a mainstream sporting personality like Lewis became after becoming undisputed heavyweight champion,then you better have a woman on your arm.Atleast for the camera's,anyway.



His "momma's boy" appeal didn't do him any favours,either.

GJC
08-08-2010, 08:00 AM
Everyone in the british media used to think Lewis was a poof.He was rarely,if ever,seen in public alongside a woman.Rahman didn't get that jibe from nowhere.It was always speculated,especially in the late 90's.


If you're a man and a mainstream sporting personality like Lewis became after becoming undisputed heavyweight champion,then you better have a woman on your arm.Atleast for the camera's,anyway.



His "momma's boy" appeal didn't do him any favours,either.

Poop, can't believe you haven't managed to shoehorn Frazier into this thread! :)

Toney616
08-08-2010, 09:12 AM
Everyone in the british media used to think Lewis was a poof.He was rarely,if ever,seen in public alongside a woman.Rahman didn't get that jibe from nowhere.It was always speculated,especially in the late 90's.


If you're a man and a mainstream sporting personality like Lewis became after becoming undisputed heavyweight champion,then you better have a woman on your arm.Atleast for the camera's,anyway.



His "momma's boy" appeal didn't do him any favours,either.
I remember hearing those rumours around the time of the Holyfield fights, but I know they had been floating around for a while before that

Sam Donald
08-08-2010, 10:22 AM
OMG.. I lost my respect for griffin

Sorry if i offend anyone but i dislike homos

gibo
08-09-2010, 04:00 AM
delaho is the only fighter I've seen in fishnet stockings, that acts like a f*g, and has been known to engage in homosexual activity in Las Vegas! So it's another ATG for the golden girl!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL

them_apples
08-09-2010, 02:24 PM
OMG.. I lost my respect for griffin

Sorry if i offend anyone but i dislike homos

no worries I do to

Forza
08-09-2010, 02:56 PM
delaho is the only fighter I've seen in fishnet stockings, that acts like a f*g, and has been known to engage in homosexual activity in Las Vegas! So it's another ATG for the golden girl!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL

The pic was confirmed to be a photoshop, but I agree he for sure has done some homo ****.