View Full Version : Really What Was Hasim Rahman Ever Doing Holding The Undisputed HW Title?


>Right Jab<
08-05-2010, 11:58 AM
He has to be one of the worst undisputed champs ever. By the time he got the belt he had already been knocked out by Oleg Maskaev & David Tua.

And since he has gone on to do very little. Getting beat by Holyfield, Ruiz, Maskaev again and Wlad, aswell as draws with a washed up James Toney and David Tua.

Lennox Lewis really let himself down that night, terrible defeat. Even Buster Douglas>>>>>Rahman.

Sugarj
08-05-2010, 12:52 PM
Ha ha, but he did deserve that win over Lewis, good right hand!

Granted I would rate Buster Douglas over Rahman.

Obama
08-05-2010, 01:56 PM
He's not the worst undisputed Champ because he was never undisputed to begin with. The WBA title was a legit title that he didn't have. You can call him a lineal champ, a unified champ, but never an undisputed Champ.

And for the record, the worst undisputed HW Champion of all time by far was Leon Spinks. Not reeeeemotely debatable.

sonnyboyx2
08-05-2010, 01:56 PM
Rahman is the Worst champion in the history of heavyweight boxing.. Yet Lennox Lewis claim to fame is avenging a KO loss to the bum

sonnyboyx2
08-05-2010, 01:58 PM
He's not the worst undisputed Champ because he was never undisputed to begin with. The WBA title was a legit title that he didn't have. You can call him a lineal champ, a unified champ, but never an undisputed Champ.

And for the record, the worst undisputed HW Champion of all time by far was Leon Spinks. Not reeeeemotely debatable.

i would take Leon Spinks to beat Rahman any day... you obviously know very little about Leon Spinks and also have seen very little of him.

Obama
08-05-2010, 01:59 PM
Rahman is the Worst champion in the history of heavyweight boxing.. Yet Lennox Lewis claim to fame is avenging a KO loss to the bum

You just confirmed you have no idea who has held the WBO HW title.

Obama
08-05-2010, 02:00 PM
i would take Leon Spinks to beat Rahman any day... you obviously know very little about Leon Spinks and also have seen very little of him.

:nonono:

Sad. Just plain sad. The only thing I've seen little of Leon Spinks is of him actually winning a fight. I've seen him win once, against "The Greatest".

Damn sure seen him lose a lot tho.

sonnyboyx2
08-05-2010, 02:25 PM
:nonono:

Sad. Just plain sad. The only thing I've seen little of Leon Spinks is of him actually winning a fight. I've seen him win once, against "The Greatest".

Damn sure seen him lose a lot tho.

then surely if thats all youv`e seen of Leon Spinks then it is enough, as i am sure Hasim Rahman would stand zero chance of beating "The Greatest" even the faded version of him which Leon Spinks beat.

Tobi.G
08-05-2010, 02:44 PM
Rahman is the Worst champion in the history of heavyweight boxing.. Yet Lennox Lewis claim to fame is avenging a KO loss to the bum

What about Liakovitch and Briggs? These 2 are worse!

Obama
08-05-2010, 02:48 PM
then surely if thats all youv`e seen of Leon Spinks then it is enough, as i am sure Hasim Rahman would stand zero chance of beating "The Greatest" even the faded version of him which Leon Spinks beat.

Seriously, name Leon's 5 best wins after Ali, and I'll name Rahman's 5 best wins after Lewis. If ANYONE on this site reads our lists and claims Leon's resume is even comparable to Rahman's, I'll eat my damn hat.

sonnyboyx2
08-05-2010, 02:48 PM
What about Liakovitch and Briggs? These 2 are worse!

you need to watch Lyakovich vs Brewster fight, it was one of the best heavyweight fights of the last 20yrs.. i would take him to easily beat Rahman while Briggs was a fast starter and i would take him to bomb-out Rahman in the early rounds or Rahman may also quit against him.

joe strong
08-05-2010, 02:53 PM
He has to be one of the worst undisputed champs ever. By the time he got the belt he had already been knocked out by Oleg Maskaev & David Tua.

And since he has gone on to do very little. Getting beat by Holyfield, Ruiz, Maskaev again and Wlad, aswell as draws with a washed up James Toney and David Tua.

Lennox Lewis really let himself down that night, terrible defeat. Even Buster Douglas>>>>>Rahman.rahman has had a solid career...maskaev had his #.rahman was winning both fights but couldnt see the left hook coming..he got hit after the bell by tua & got shafted by the ref with an early stoppage.he showed up in shape vs lennox,while lennox was too busy filming oceans 13 to train.he was in the holyfield fight until the headbutt made him grow another head.hes had some good fights.when he drew with tua he was 260 but still threw 60-80 punches a round...i dont know what you are talking about...he had 2 weaknesses.1st one was his training habits.he could show up between 230-260 but the thing he never adjusted too was being able to see the inside lefthook coming.maskaev,tua,wlad,lennox all used it effectively on him...he did ok defending it during the 2nd tua fight,but maskaev disguised his so well rahman never saw it coming.maskaev would hook him & follow with a big right...too bad maskaev didnt have a better chin.he was very skilled with big power

Joeyzagz
08-05-2010, 03:04 PM
The Rahman fight was almost 2000 metres above sea level which is insane for a boxing match, but to make things worse Lennox was shooting a pretend fight with Wlad only days before and did not train in those conditions. There is about a 1300 metre difference in Altitude between Las vegas and the location in South Africa.
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/7480/lenwlad.gif

Dangerous effects of high altitude:


...confusion, clumsiness, and stumbling. The first signs may be uncharacteristic behaviour such as laziness, excessive emotion or violence. Drowsiness and loss of consciousness occur shortly before death.

Its no mystery why Lennox won every single round, and disposed of Rahman in the 4th in the rematch. Rahman was simply in the right place at the right time. The fact that Wlad fought Rahman 7 years later based on this fluke at high altitude is really sad.

joe strong
08-05-2010, 03:13 PM
i like rahman & lets not forget he had only 10 amateur fights & never started boxing until he was 20...id bsay hes an overachiever not a bum like you all say....i shake my head with the lack of knowledge displayed in this thread

joe strong
08-05-2010, 03:25 PM
watch rahman vs corrie sanders...he got off the floor twice to stop sanders in the 7th of what could possibly be one of the best fights of the last decade.he showed the heart of a champion & in his next fight he upset lennox...wlad was in the same position.a win over sanders was to get him a shot at lennox...we all know what happened.both rahman & wlad were able to win titles again...i dont think people give rahman enough credit.he was always behind the 8ball from day one while all the guys who beat him were olympic goal medalists,olympians,& guys withextensive amateur backgrounds...

frankenfrank
08-05-2010, 03:48 PM
He's not the worst undisputed Champ because he was never undisputed to begin with. The WBA title was a legit title that he didn't have. You can call him a lineal champ, a unified champ, but never an undisputed Champ.

And for the record, the worst undisputed HW Champion of all time by far was Leon Spinks. Not reeeeemotely debatable.

Why ? wasn't Floyd Patterson even close ? and then some of those old timers ?
Like James Braddock , Primo Carnerra .

sonnyboyx2
08-05-2010, 04:14 PM
The Rahman fight was almost 2000 metres above sea level which is insane for a boxing match, but to make things worse Lennox was shooting a pretend fight with Wlad only days before and did not train in those conditions. There is about a 1300 metre difference in Altitude between Las vegas and the location in South Africa.
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/7480/lenwlad.gif

Dangerous effects of high altitude:



Its no mystery why Lennox won every single round, and disposed of Rahman in the 4th in the rematch. Rahman was simply in the right place at the right time. The fact that Wlad fought Rahman 7 years later based on this fluke at high altitude is really sad.

you are funny... full of excuses for Lewis

Axl Rose
08-07-2010, 09:36 AM
Rahman desveres to be champion. He beat Corry Sanders wich was a great voctory and desverved the title shot.

He boxed well against Lewis landing many jabs and right hands. If you dont think he is a good boxer you should watch the rematch with Lewis. He got beaten, but hes moving very well and jabbing as a champion. i thought he boxed really well. Never saw Lewis that good in hes whole career.

Rahman has a big punch and a great jab.

No daoubt he is a good fighter.

BennyST
08-07-2010, 12:20 PM
Why ? wasn't Floyd Patterson even close ? and then some of those old timers ?
Like James Braddock , Primo Carnerra .

Huh? Are you racist or something?

TheGreatA
08-07-2010, 12:49 PM
One punch can make a difference in the heavyweight division, and Rahman is a great example of that. He wasn't a top fighter at all, but found Lewis's chin with a right hand and that was that.

The_Demon
08-07-2010, 12:51 PM
Rahman is the Worst champion in the history of heavyweight boxing.. Yet Lennox Lewis claim to fame is avenging a KO loss to the bum

You just cant stop hating can you,its pretty sad

Bowe ducked lewis,dont get upset by that kid

sonnyboyx2
08-07-2010, 01:41 PM
You just cant stop hating can you,its pretty sad

Bowe ducked lewis,dont get upset by that kid

i think you will find it was the other way... Lewis ducked Bowe.. here is a link to prove it, but dont you be getting upset about it "Kid"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0eins2DhSo