Apparently an OCT1st rematch will not happen because of the 15 stitches in Taylor's had. Plus it seems he has a concussion.

So it may not even be until sometime next year. By that time the drive for a rematch may die off between the fighters which I hope not.

I am still not convinced that Taylor dominates the division. I feel Hopkins would win the rematch to become a 2 Time Undisputed MW Champ, retire, vacate the belts, then a tourney should happen. The best MW should win.

NO!!! NO TOURNEY!!! if theres one thing boxing DOESNT need, its another division with a billion belts and no single champion. the only undisputed champions are zab judah and jermain taylor. the only unified champs we have are:
jean-marc mormeck (cruiser)
diego corrales (light)
and juan manuel marquez (feather)

maybe MAB will be the super-feather unified champ after he beats penden.

but we dont need another divided division.

Fight could have gone both ways easily...

But...

If Taylor had a concussion and he had never gone 12 with anyone even close to the level of Hopkins does anyone think he deserves some credit for gutting it out against a guy who had him figured out...

I can only imagine Jermain improving upon this effort, everyone expects Hopkins to improve upon his performance as well so it looks like we will have an even better fight when they meet again.

Apparently an OCT1st rematch will not happen because of the 15 stitches in Taylor's had. Plus it seems he has a concussion.

So it may not even be until sometime next year. By that time the drive for a rematch may die off between the fighters which I hope not.

I am still not convinced that Taylor dominates the division. I feel Hopkins would win the rematch to become a 2 Time Undisputed MW Champ, retire, vacate the belts, then a tourney should happen. The best MW should win.

I agree, I think this whole situation sucks... :(

If Hopkins won the rematch and retired.. we would have a similar situation like the heavyweight division. There should be a rematch but if it doesnt happen it could better for boxing in the long run.

lol everyone thinks jermain lost the first one

Taylor got a concussion and a huge cut in his head and still beat Bernard. Without Bernard's dirty tactics the fight would not have been as close.

Most of the people do not think Taylor lost. Just the opposite. Read the polls. In every poll Taylor beats Bernard.

This was on some Jirov/Mesi ****. How big was the gash on Taylors head?

I find it funny when one fighter technically beats another fighter on points but actually takes the physical ass whooping.

Why don't they reschedule for November or December?

As I said before "Mark my words Taylor will win the fight by a close decision" .... And he did (in judges eyes of course)

Now I say this:
"Mark my words, there won't be a rematch"

Time works against B-Hop.. and they will just stretch this far enough for Nard to go into retirement, or probably fight someone in the middle and go out with a "W"

All part of the Golden Boy Conspiracy :rolleyes:

Also, does anyone have a pic of the cut?

Word is the rematch will happen before Christmas, so no big deal.

HAHAHA.Taylor's only chance is for the fight to be until next year, maybe somehow Benard gets old.Taylor's a fraud and i cant wait till he gets KO!

Apparently an OCT1st rematch will not happen because of the 15 stitches in Taylor's had. Plus it seems he has a concussion.

So it may not even be until sometime next year. By that time the drive for a rematch may die off between the fighters which I hope not.

I am still not convinced that Taylor dominates the division. I feel Hopkins would win the rematch to become a 2 Time Undisputed MW Champ, retire, vacate the belts, then a tourney should happen. The best MW should win.

i feel taylor will have an easier time second time around. hopkins would have more of a chance if it was done in october.

seems like hopkins dirty tactics like that headbutt is going to cause a longer wait for him. more time favores taylor and gives him more training time to get over his mistakes in first fight.

After seeing the cut on Taylor, I knew that it was not possible for him to fight in 2 months, the earliest I see this fight happening is sometime in mid December. Taylor will win easily in the rematch, if Borekins brawls with Taylor & not run away for the first 9 rounds. I see Borekins getting knocked out.

Taylors promoter will try to delay the fight as long as possible to screw over Hopkins.

Taylors promoter will try to delay the fight as long as possible to screw over Hopkins.So you saying they should fight in October. How in the hell that is possible, that's like 2 months away, have you seen the cut on Taylor. It is not possible for this fight to happen before december.

i feel taylor will have an easier time second time around. hopkins would have more of a chance if it was done in october.

seems like hopkins dirty tactics like that headbutt is going to cause a longer wait for him. more time favores taylor and gives him more training time to get over his mistakes in first fight.

If this is made in December, Hopkins is not going to be that much older than if the fight is in October.

HAHAHA.Taylor's only chance is for the fight to be until next year, maybe somehow Benard gets old.Taylor's a fraud and i cant wait till he gets KO!Sorry Taylor is not Lennox Lewis, Lewis is a fraud & Lewis was knocked out twice with one punch. Lewis ducked Bowe for years, he also retired & didn't want to fight Vitali Klitschko.

Well this is very bad news for B-Hop.I think they are just stalling the rematch that Hopkins would win clearly. Then on the other Taylor looked real bad in the last rounds. He looked out of it like he wasnt there it looked like he couldnt believe he was getting tagged, right hand after right hand.
It could be true that he had a concusion but to cancel the rematch till next year is just a stragedy.They wanna play chess with Hopkins and they might just win it.

Sorry Taylor is not Lennox Lewis, Lewis is a fraud & Lewis was knocked out twice with one punch. Lewis ducked Bowe for years, he also retired & didn't want to fight Vitali Klitschko.


You have your information flipped. Bowe ducked Lewis, not the other way around.

Taylor didnt want to fight anymore thats why he kept turning around when he was hurt.

Why havent any of taylors fan said anythig about this?? Whe he was hurt he completly turned around looking for the ref for help. This is signs of a fighters who doesnt want to continue.

Taylor didnt want to fight anymore thats why he kept turning around when he was hurt.

Why havent any of taylors fan said anythig about this?? Whe he was hurt he completly turned around looking for the ref for help. This is signs of a fighters who doesnt want to continue.

What makes you say that? He was probably just wanting the ref to take points off. Are you talking about when the headbutt occurred or sometime later on?

Well this is very bad news for B-Hop.I think they are just stalling the rematch that Hopkins would win clearly. Then on the other Taylor looked real bad in the last rounds. He looked out of it like he wasnt there it looked like he couldnt believe he was getting tagged, right hand after right hand.
It could be true that he had a concusion but to cancel the rematch till next year is just a stragedy.They wanna play chess with Hopkins and they might just win it.Yea you want Taylor to fight Borekins within 2 months, how is that possible, have you seen the cut on Taylor. Like I said before, the earliest this fight will happen is sometime in mid December. It is not possible for Taylor to fight within 2 months, that cut will take 2 or 3 months to heal, after that Taylor can start training for the rematch. Some of you people just amaze me with your knowledge.

I'm hearing so really crazy stuff. How long does a cut like Taylor's take to heal? 2 1/2 months isn't log enough?

I'm hearing so really crazy stuff. How long does a cut like Taylor's take to heal? 2 1/2 months isn't log enough?

I think it's the concussion that's causing the problem. If it's severe enough and it's not his first then he has to stay out for that long.

What makes you say that? He was probably just wanting the ref to take points off. Are you talking about when the headbutt occurred or sometime later on?


no, in the 10th and 11 round Bernard connected with a cross that had Taylor really hurt. Then Bernard started throwing a lot of combinations, Taylor covered up and bent down without firing back, then Taylor just completly turned around (like his whole back and butt was facing Bernard) The ref came in and told him not to turn arund like that. He did that twice in the 10th and 11th. He had a look on his face like he didnt want to be here (Like Mike Tyson look on his face)

You have your information flipped. Bowe ducked Lewis, not the other way around.Not true, Lewis ducked Bowe first. Bowe didn't fight him after that, either you are to young to remember or you just saw Beyond the Glory of Lennox Lewis which made it looked like Bowe ducked Lewis. Look this up & you will see that Lewis Ducked him first, he wanted 50-50 to fight the champion. Bowe was the champion, not Lewis at that time.

no, in the 10th and 11 round Bernard connected with a cross that had Taylor really hurt. Then Bernard started throwing a lot of combinations, Taylor covered up and bent down without firing back, then Taylor just completly turned around (like his whole back and butt was facing Bernard) The ref came in and told him not to turn arund like that. He did that twice in the 10th and 11th. He had a look on his face like he didnt want to be here (Like Mike Tyson look on his face)

Oh, sorry, I get you now. I still stand by what I was saying the day of the fight that Taylor knew he was winning the fight and had trouble focusing those last few rounds, being such a young guy and this matchup being such a HUGE leap in competition and significance for him. He got drilled in those last few rounds, no doubt about that.

Wow I said 2 months? What I remember saying was 3 to 6 months which is in perfect range of pro fighters. When a fighter wins an easy fight he fights 2 or 3 months later when its a tuff fights it 6 months but nt more than that. Let me guess J.T is gonna want to defend with someone else first. Like I said they wanna play chess with Hopkins and hope time beats him first.Yea you want Taylor to fight Borekins within 2 months, how is that possible, have you seen the cut on Taylor. Like I said before, the earliest this fight will happen is sometime in mid December. It is not possible for Taylor to fight within 2 months, that cut will take 2 or 3 months to heal, after that Taylor can start training for the rematch. Some of you people just amaze me with your knowledge.

Not true, lewis ducked Bowe first. Bowe didn't fight him after that, either you are to young to remember or you just saw Beyond the Glory of Lennox Lewis which made it looked like Bowe ducked Lewis. Look this up & you will see when that Lewis Ducked him first, he wanted 50-50 to fight the champion. Bowe was the champion, not Lewis at that time.


You are by far one of the biggest idiots on this site with the crap I've seen you spew in the last few days.

Bowe climbed out of the ring after beating Holyfield the first time and promised Lewis a fight on Live TV. Not only did he go agaisnt that, he threw his belt away rather than defend agaisnt Lewis.

Eveyone knows Bowe had a screw loose and was afraid of Lewis ever since he was stopped by him in the olympics.

Bowe never wanted any part of Lewis in the pros at anytime.

Go back to trying to tell eveyone Taylor swept the first 9 rounds.

Idiot.

I'm hearing so really crazy stuff. How long does a cut like Taylor's take to heal? 2 1/2 months isn't log enough?No it's not long enough, he can't spar until the cut is healed.

Not true, Lewis ducked Bowe first. Bowe didn't fight him after that, either you are to young to remember or you just saw Beyond the Glory of Lennox Lewis which made it looked like Bowe ducked Lewis. Look this up & you will see that Lewis Ducked him first, he wanted 50-50 to fight the champion. Bowe was the champion, not Lewis at that time.


Ahahaha...

Lewis OWNED Bowe in the olympics and Bowe was afraid of him for the rest of his career.

Lewis blasted out Ruddock to earn a shot at Bowe and Bowe instead throws his title away to avoid Lewis, AFTER PROMISING HIM A FIGHT ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS.

After Bowe did that **** Lewis 'inherited' the WBC belt...

Bowe never wanted anything to do with Lennox. Seriously just admit your wrong and go on with your day.

You are by far one of the biggest idiots on this site with the crap I've seen you spew in the last few days.

Bowe climbed out of the ring after beating Holyfield the first time and promised Lewis a fight on Live TV. Not only did he go agaisnt that, he threw his belt away rather than defend agaisnt Lewis.

Eveyone knows Bowe had a screw loose and was afraid of Lewis ever since he was stopped by him in the olympics.

Bowe never wanted any part of Lewis in the pros at anytime.

Go back to trying to tell eveyone Taylor swept the first 9 rounds.

Idiot.Sorry Dumbass you just proved your an idiot, I'm not talking about that time you moron. I know Bowe didn't fight Lewis the second time, it was Lewis that Ducked him first, go look into it first, before make a fool out of yourself. Go lick Hopkins balls, nut-hugger.

Sorry Dumbass you just proved your an idiot, I'm not talking about that time you moron. I know Bowe didn't fight Lewis the second time, it was Lewis that Ducked him first, go look into it first, before make a fool out of yourself. Go lick Hopkins balls, nut-hugger.


No one should take anything you say seriously.

You're the same moron who can't talk about Ray Robinson because he can't "see" the punches he thows clear enough on his big screen TV.

<img src=http://www.boxingscene.com/media/data/500/20305Robinson_KO_Randy_Turpin.gif>

Do everyone here a favor and find something better to do.

Convincing yourself you saw and know about things that went down completely different from your die hard take only wastes your own time as much as it does everyone elses.

Ahahaha...

Lewis OWNED Bowe in the olympics and Bowe was afraid of him for the rest of his career.

Lewis blasted out Ruddock to earn a shot at Bowe and Bowe instead throws his title away to avoid Lewis, AFTER PROMISING HIM A FIGHT ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS.

After Bowe did that **** Lewis 'inherited' the WBC belt...

Bowe never wanted anything to do with Lennox. Seriously just admit your wrong and go on with your day.Get your information correct, I know what Bowe did, I'm not talking about that time. Go look into it & you will see what I'm talking about. Lewis Ducked Bowe first.

No one should take anything you say seriously.

You're the same moron who can't talk about Ray Robinson because he can't "see" the punches he thows clear enough on his big screen TV.

<img src=http://www.boxingscene.com/media/data/500/20305Robinson_KO_Randy_Turpin.gif>

Do everyone here a favor and find something better to do.

Convincing yourself you saw and know about things that went down completely different from your die hard take only wastes your own time as much as it does everyone elses.Yea I'm the same person that called Robinson the greatest boxer of all time. Do me favor go jump of the nearest bridge & end yourself.

no, in the 10th and 11 round Bernard connected with a cross that had Taylor really hurt. Then Bernard started throwing a lot of combinations, Taylor covered up and bent down without firing back, then Taylor just completly turned around (like his whole back and butt was facing Bernard) The ref came in and told him not to turn arund like that. He did that twice in the 10th and 11th. He had a look on his face like he didnt want to be here (Like Mike Tyson look on his face)

He had a consussion, was bleeding profusely, out of gas, and STILL hung on to eek out the SD.

GIVE THE MAN SOME CREDIT.

And its amazing to me how many people are clueless about boxing on a freaking boxing website.

Yea I'm the same person that called Robinson the greatest boxer of all time.

Yea, based on things you claim you can't see on what you claim is a really nice big screen TV, which are clearly evident in a 210 pixel Gif.

You're a moron, and you're wasting your own time saying stupid **** just as much as you are wasting the time of the people who are unfortunate enough to read it.


:rolleyes:

Get your information correct, I know what Bowe did, I'm not talking about that time. Go look into it & you will see what I'm talking about. Lewis Ducked Bowe first.


Nope. You're saying the same **** about Lewis ducking Bowe that juyjuy says about Toney ducking Eubank.

Since you're the one who knows that Lewis ducked Bowe first, how about YOU come up with factual evidence that he did it. I've never heard anything about it, but maybe you're right and I'm wrong.

Bowe ducks Lewis (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/features/cover/news/2000/11/07/lews_2_93/)

Given the foul, degrading and disingenuous manner in which business is often conducted in boxing, Lewis may have to wait until 1994 to make the case that he's the best. When he flattened Ruddock, Lewis and his manager, Frank Maloney, believed that Lewis would get the first shot at the winner of the Nov. 13 Evander Holyfield-Riddick Bowe title bout, a shot that both Holyfield and Bowe had indicated they would give him.

However, after Bowe outpointed Holyfield, it quickly became clear that Bowe's manager, Rock Newman, had no more intention of having his fighter meet Lewis right away than he had of dancing with a chain saw. Newman tossed a low- ball offer at Lewis, which Lewis rejected; then, looking for big money and easy pickings, Newman and Bowe signed a six-fight contract with Time Warner Sports, whose president, Seth Abraham, had been pushing Lewis as the greatest heavyweight in the world -- "Lennox Lewis is the real deal," Abraham said last fall -- right up to the Bowe-Holyfield fight, after which he began hyping Bowe. "Riddick Bowe could make as much as $100 million if he wins all six fights," Abraham said.

The dead-meat parade begins at Madison Square Garden on Feb. 6, when Bowe steps into the ring against 34-year-old Michael Dokes, a 250-pound spent bullet whose battle against cocaine addiction has been quite as spectacular as any he has waged in the ring. Once he has dispatched Dokes, Bowe will entertain Ray Mercer in Atlantic City in May in another waste of time. After Mercer he may take on George Foreman and even Larry Holmes, boxing's senior citizens.

On Dec. 14 Bowe relinquished the World Boxing Council's version of the heavyweight title by dumping the WBC belt in the trash. It was an unnecessary bit of showmanship; the WBC was going to strip him anyway for ducking Lewis. No longer the undisputed champ, Bowe now holds the World Boxing Association and International Boxing Federation belts. The WBC conferred its title on Lewis.

Yea, based on things you claim you can't see on what you claim is a really nice big screen TV, which are clearly evident in a 210 pixel Gif.

You're a moron, and you're wasting your own time saying stupid **** just as much as you are wasting the time of the people who are unfortunate enough to read it.


:rolleyes:Please I've read many of your dumbass posts, you're an idiot, you're a ***** just like you're man. Just jump of the bridge or get a life. Your knowledge is 0.

Not true, Lewis ducked Bowe first. Bowe didn't fight him after that, either you are to young to remember or you just saw Beyond the Glory of Lennox Lewis which made it looked like Bowe ducked Lewis. Look this up & you will see that Lewis Ducked him first, he wanted 50-50 to fight the champion. Bowe was the champion, not Lewis at that time.

wtf are you talking about. Lewis never ducked Bowe, it was the opposite way around. Lewis wanted a fight with either Holy...or Bowe, and he was not given the chance by Bowe...so he had to beat Holy's ass.

no, in the 10th and 11 round Bernard connected with a cross that had Taylor really hurt. Then Bernard started throwing a lot of combinations, Taylor covered up and bent down without firing back, then Taylor just completly turned around (like his whole back and butt was facing Bernard) The ref came in and told him not to turn arund like that. He did that twice in the 10th and 11th. He had a look on his face like he didnt want to be here (Like Mike Tyson look on his face)
u say the stupidest stuff..the only time jermain was turned like that was when they were in a clinch...and Hopkins kept hittin him so why not turn around...its illegal to hit in the back of the head so it was smart if u ask me...

How the **** did this turn into a who ducked who?
Truth is Bowe ducked Lewis argument ova!

This just proves that alot of you dumbasses don't **** about boxing. Everyone Knows that Lewis ducked Bowe for years in the beginning.

He had a consussion, was bleeding profusely, out of gas, and STILL hung on to eek out the SD.

GIVE THE MAN SOME CREDIT.

And its amazing to me how many people are clueless about boxing on a freaking boxing website.
:biggthump agreed

After seeing the cut on Taylor, I knew that it was not possible for him to fight in 2 months, the earliest I see this fight happening is sometime in mid December. Taylor will win easily in the rematch, if Borekins brawls with Taylor & not run away for the first 9 rounds. I see Borekins getting knocked out. Yeah thats pretty logical since Hopkins has never been knocked out & was at no point hurt by Taylor in the 1st fight. I believe Hopkins won the 1st fight & if they fight again I see a 9 or 10 round stoppage by Hopkins. Hopkins knowing he won the 1st fight & that he stopped him in 2nd would just move on for finale against Jones or retire. Like Jones vs Griffith, no need for a 3rd fight. In Hopkins head he will have already known he won both.

u say the stupidest stuff..the only time jermain was turned like that was when they were in a clinch...and Hopkins kept hittin him so why not turn around...its illegal to hit in the back of the head so it was smart if u ask me...


Taylor got beaten all around the ****ing ring for the last 4 rounds, he WILL lose by KO in the rematch,. you heard it here first, that's a guarantee!!!

He had a consussion, was bleeding profusely, out of gas, and STILL hung on to eek out the SD.

GIVE THE MAN SOME CREDIT.

And its amazing to me how many people are clueless about boxing on a freaking boxing website.


I usually just read the nonsense for entertainment. I truly believe most people that post on here are trying to get attention. Everyone is entitled to thier opinion. But the facts will always remain. Taylor won a SD against Hopkins. No matter how much people gripe and complain, the outcome will never change.

Yeah thats pretty logical since Hopkins has never been knocked out & was at no point hurt by Taylor in the 1st fight. I believe Hopkins won the 1st fight & if they fight again I see a 9 or 10 round stoppage by Hopkins. Hopkins knowing he won the 1st fight & that he stopped him in 2nd would just move on for finale against Jones or retire. Like Jones vs Griffith, no need for a 3rd fight. In Hopkins head he will have already known he won both.You sure about that. I think Hopkins will be dancing around again for the first 9 rounds. Hopkins has never really been hit. He was down twice in one fight by -c class fighter. Hopkins will get destroyed if he ever brawls Taylor.

Everyone knows when a guy is hurt and covers up and doesnt fire back, turns arund completly = DOESNT WANT TO FIGHT ANYMORE

And 2nd maybe if you dont know this but a guy who gets a concusion does not know what the hell is going on or what has happened. Jermain Taylor in no way shape or form had a concussion.

I usually just read the nonsense for entertainment. I truly believe most people that post on here are trying to get attention. Everyone is entitled to thier opinion. But the facts will always remain. Taylor won a SD against Hopkins. No matter how much people gripe and complain, the outcome will never change.


Really? you mean they don't change the decisions AFTER the fight is over? no **** dickhead, that's why they have rematches. Hopkins ko over taylor in the rematch, guaranteed!

This just proves that alot of you dumbasses don't **** about boxing. Everyone Knows that Lewis ducked Bowe for years in the beginning.


And your done...

I ask you to simply find this information that everyone who's not a dumbass just "knows" and you can't. I can't believe that you even post here still, you're wasting your time. Owned on this thread, owned on the best counterpuncher thread, owned on the Duran/Mayweather thread...I'm done wasting time with you.

The funniest thing is, you'll probably call me a "Lewis asslicker" after this because that's your only insult (asslicker)...when in fact I actually don't like Lennox very much at all.

And your done...

I ask you to simply find this information that everyone who's not a dumbass just "knows" and you can't. I can't believe that you even post here still, you're wasting your time. Owned on this thread, owned on the best counterpuncher thread, owned on the Duran/Mayweather thread...I'm done wasting time with you.

The funniest thing is, you'll probably call me a "Lewis asslicker" after this because that's your only insult (asslicker)...when in fact I actually don't like Lennox very much at all.No what I will call you is an idiot. You think you know alot about boxing, but more & more I read your posts you prove to me that you don't know **** about boxing. Just go type it on the internet & you will find the info yourself. I have actually ignore you most of the time, you think you know, but you really don't know **** & you just proved it again to me.

You sure about that. I think Hopkins will be dancing around again for the first 9 rounds. Hopkins has never really been hit. He was down twice in one fight by -c class fighter. Hopkins will get destroyed if he ever brawls Taylor. I don't know you but just by reading your replies I would have to say that your one of these British fight fans that have only seen Hopkins post Trinidad fights & believes the guy cannot brawl. Do yourself a favor & watch Hopkins vs Echols. Those are real brawls! The only reason Taylor got the decision was that Hopkins didn't brawl enough. When Hopkins pressed the action Taylor was catching flush rights all round. Face it Hopkins got given the defeat more because of what he didn't do more so than what Taylor did. If Hopkins feels him out for a couple rounds instead of five & then turns up the heat THE REMATCH WILL BE A UD OR A LATE STOPPAGE (RD9 OR 10).

I don't know you but just by reading your replies I would have to say that your one of these British fight fans that have only seen Hopkins post Trinidad fights & believes the guy cannot brawl. Do yourself a favor & watch Hopkins vs Echols. Those are real brawls! The only reason Taylor got the decision was that Hopkins didn't brawl enough. When Hopkins pressed the action Taylor was catching flush rights all round. Face it Hopkins got given the defeat more because of what he didn't do more so than what Taylor did. If Hopkins feels him out for a couple rounds instead of five & then turns up the heat THE REMATCH WILL BE A UD OR A LATE STOPPAGE (RD9 OR 10).First of all I'm from New York city & don't be racists towards british people. Taylor is the champion, end of story & he will beat Hopkins again.

Didn't see the fight, but it's my impression from what i have read that a 2nd fight would probably pick up where the first left off, resulting in a victory for bHop.
I do wonder, though, if BHop would start just as slow in a rematch.

Sorry Taylor is not Lennox Lewis, Lewis is a fraud & Lewis was knocked out twice with one punch. Lewis ducked Bowe for years, he also retired & didn't want to fight Vitali Klitschko.


Bowe ducked Lewis...common knowledge.

Everyone knows when a guy is hurt and covers up and doesnt fire back, turns arund completly = DOESNT WANT TO FIGHT ANYMORE

And 2nd maybe if you dont know this but a guy who gets a concusion does not know what the hell is going on or what has happened. Jermain Taylor in no way shape or form had a concussion.

What? I've had 2 concussions, one during a football game that I stayed in at safety and finished from right after halftime. I was chopped at the ankles, flew completely upside down and landed on my head. Sat out for a drive, came back in and finished the game.

Sometime concussions aren't even painful, just disorienting. And now look at the fight. It wasn't until after Hopkins drilled him with a headbutt and opened that gash that Taylor started losing momentum and the tide began to shift. It's almost apparent that after that round, Taylor was sluggish, uncoordinated and tired.

Loss of blood, concussion, winded, fighting Bernard Hopkins. Still hung on for a decision. And you called him "soft" earlier.

Didn't see the fight, but it's my impression from what i have read that a 2nd fight would probably pick up where the first left off, resulting in a victory for bHop.
I do wonder, though, if BHop would start just as slow in a rematch.

Actually I think hopkins best plan would be to start slow again. Taylor was able to hang on and weather the Hopkin's storm when he was almost out on his feet from exhaustion and loss of blood. If Hopkins took it to him from the opening bell like JT did, the fight could be the exact opposite.

This just proves that alot of you dumbasses don't **** about boxing. Everyone Knows that Lewis ducked Bowe for years in the beginning.


I may be wrong, but i believe Lewis never ducked ANYBODY, ANYTIME, which is something even 90% of the beltholders in any era can't say.

What? I've had 2 concussions, one during a football game that I stayed in at safety and finished from right after halftime. I was chopped at the ankles, flew completely upside down and landed on my head. Sat out for a drive, came back in and finished the game.

Sometime concussions aren't even painful, just disorienting. And now look at the fight. It wasn't until after Hopkins drilled him with a headbutt and opened that gash that Taylor started losing momentum and the tide began to shift. It's almost apparent that after that round, Taylor was sluggish, uncoordinated and tired.

Loss of blood, concussion, winded, fighting Bernard Hopkins. Still hung on for a decision. And you called him "soft" earlier.


Was the Head butt that deliberate? I haven't heard any commentary about teh butt..then againm all i've read was over on Maxboxing. They were all over BHop's scrotum, so that could be why there was no mention of the head butt. None in the mailbag, either.

As I said before "Mark my words Taylor will win the fight by a close decision" .... And he did (in judges eyes of course)

Now I say this:
"Mark my words, there won't be a rematch"

Time works against B-Hop.. and they will just stretch this far enough for Nard to go into retirement, or probably fight someone in the middle and go out with a "W"

All part of the Golden Boy Conspiracy :rolleyes:
yeah they most likely will try to keep the rematch away from hopkins, real far away if they can. the only thing is, is that it is in writing( the rematch clause) and hopkins will pursue the rematch to the fullest extent....if not, it will be fought in court...i think it the rematch does happen, taylor and hbo needs it...bad!

Was the Head butt that deliberate? I haven't heard any commentary about teh butt..then againm all i've read was over on Maxboxing. They were all over BHop's scrotum, so that could be why there was no mention of the head butt. None in the mailbag, either.

Nah, I didn't think the first one was deliberate, but who knows with B-Hop. He is a pretty sneaky fighter.

But the second one I saw, looked like he aimed for TAylor's jaw, and connected with it. I'm pretty sure that one was.

I need to see the fight again this weekend to be sure.

The headbutt that caused the cut on Taylor's head was ruled accidental. For anyone who says it was deliberate is a moron because B-Hop is smart. He should've known that if he cut Taylor and lost the fight that he would have to wait for Taylor to heal in order to get the rematch. I'm sure B-Hop didn't mean for the headbutt because he doesn't have time to "wait."

This was on some Jirov/Mesi ****. How big was the gash on Taylors head?

I find it funny when one fighter technically beats another fighter on points but actually takes the physical ass whooping.

Why don't they reschedule for November or December?

Pac whoopin Marquez huh yet Marquez winnin mo rounds? Yup , nyahahahaha!

Pac whoopin Marquez huh yet Marquez winnin mo rounds? Yup , nyahahahaha!
i thought Marques beat Pacman easly, he didnt whop his ass but he won like every round besides thaT 1ST one

Apparently an OCT1st rematch will not happen because of the 15 stitches in Taylor's had. Plus it seems he has a concussion.

So it may not even be until sometime next year. By that time the drive for a rematch may die off between the fighters which I hope not.

I am still not convinced that Taylor dominates the division. I feel Hopkins would win the rematch to become a 2 Time Undisputed MW Champ, retire, vacate the belts, then a tourney should happen. The best MW should win.

I doubt that Taylor suffered a concussion. If you can provide a link, that would be great.