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Yogi
12-09-2004, 11:02 AM
This is off the top of my head, so don't be too hard on me if you disagree with the order. But this is what I've come up with for an all-time top 10 in this division ;

1. Ezzard Charles
2. Sam Langford
3. Archie Moore
4. Gene Tunney
5. Michael Spinks
6. Bob Foster
7. Tommy Loughran
8. Billy Conn
9. Roy Jones
10. Harry Greb

Honourable mentions to; Jack O'Brien, Maxie Rosenbloom, Harold Johnson, John Henry Lewis, Matthew Saad Muhammad, Jimmy Bivins, Bob Fitzsimmons, Kid McCoy and Jack Dillon.

realtim
12-09-2004, 12:05 PM
Top choices yogi except for the RJJ one.
I would put Bob Fitzsimmons in his place.
Dont think he belongs with them greats.

Great
12-10-2004, 03:09 PM
Ezzard Charles my favorite LH.

cms
12-10-2004, 06:15 PM
Top choices yogi except for the RJJ one.
I would put Bob Fitzsimmons in his place.
Dont think he belongs with them greats.
i think roy jones belongs with greats but not the LH or H's i think he belongs with the greatest middle weight if you ask me

Raekwon
12-10-2004, 06:37 PM
Tarver deserves a mention imo, okay he isnt up there with the likes of jones, ezzard, moore etc but i still gonna give him a mention :rolleyes:

sssse
12-10-2004, 07:09 PM
1. Sam Langford
2. Ezzard Charles
3. Archie Moore
4. Harry Greb
5. Bob Foster

grayfist
12-11-2004, 12:43 AM
1. Sam Langford
2. Ezzard Charles
3. Archie Moore
4. Harry Greb
5. Bob FosterI'll just add Michael Spinks, if I may? :)

Dude
12-11-2004, 06:57 AM
Sam wasn't really a Light-Heavy was he? In his prime he was more like Super Middle. I mean he only stood 5'6". He fought in every weight class though.

dempseyfire
12-11-2004, 12:02 PM
This is off the top of my head, so don't be too hard on me if you disagree with the order. But this is what I've come up with for an all-time top 10 in this division ;

1. Ezzard Charles
2. Sam Langford
3. Archie Moore
4. Gene Tunney
5. Michael Spinks
6. Bob Foster
7. Tommy Loughran
8. Billy Conn
9. Roy Jones
10. Harry Greb

Honourable mentions to; Jack O'Brien, Maxie Rosenbloom, Harold Johnson, John Henry Lewis, Matthew Saad Muhammad, Jimmy Bivins, Bob Fitzsimmons, Kid McCoy and Jack Dillon.

Very good list Yogi, although I'd put Rosenbloom, Johnson, Lewis, and probably Dillon ahead of Jones Jr, and rank Greb a middleweight instead of a Light HW. Probably something like this

1) Sam Langford (he was at so many weight classes (but in his prime did weigh around 170-180) so hard to put at light HW but if he is then I think he deserves to be # 1)
2) Ezzard Charles
3)Archie Moore
4) Gene Tunney
5) Michael Spinks
6) Tommy Loughran
7) Billy Conn
8) Bob Foster
9) Maxie Rosenbloom
10) John Henry Lewis
11) Harold Johnson
12) Jack Dillon
13) Roy Jones Jr
14) Matthew Sadd Muhammed
15) Tiger Jack Fox

-I don't rank Fitz as a light HW but I understand if he is

cms
12-11-2004, 12:19 PM
I Dont know much about L-H fighters but i know that micheal spinks faught L-H and he was good so yeah lol

BodysnatcherFan
12-12-2004, 10:03 AM
Yogi your list is good, except no way Conn higher than Jones. Jones had way more power and while Conn was fast-footed he was straightbacked and kept his chin high for Jones to KO him.

gogan
12-14-2004, 11:05 AM
Ali Hw!!!!

Mr. Ryan
12-28-2004, 04:50 PM
1. Archie Moore
2. Michael Spinks
3. Sam Langford
4. Ezzard Charles
5. Billy Conn
6. Bob Foster
7. Gene Tunney
8. Harry Greb
9. Tommy Loughran
10. Roy Jones Jr.

zoo
12-31-2004, 05:18 AM
Charles was the greatest at the weight, too bad he didn't stick around and pick up the title.

grayfist
12-31-2004, 09:59 AM
Charles was the greatest at the weight, too bad he didn't stick around and pick up the title.Whenever EZZard Charles is listed among the top lighheavies, he is referred to as "contender"; yes, sadly he never got around to officially winning the title. But he did beat someone who's possibly the second greatest--or third greatest or even the greatest, in some reckonings---LH of all time: Archie Moore.

Charles stay at LH was relatively brief; six years, too short, all told, for those times ('late 42 to 48) and his record in those years was respectable but not really superlative (31-3 with 19 KOs). But his having beaten Archie 3 times, (the last by KO in 46, 47 and 48) when both were real lightheavies, lends a lot of credence to any claim that he was and is the best among lightheavies. The fact that he also won three of four vs. Jimmy Bivins (a Hall of Famer) and went 2 of 3 against Lloyd Marshal (an outstanding LH of the day) adds to the arguement. Charles experienced his first and only KO in the hands of Marshall as a LH. Charles beat Joey Maxim 4 times, KOd Gus Lesnevich and beat Chjarles Burley twice. :)

Sidestep_1
01-02-2005, 10:30 AM
I donīt want to list fighters I havenīt seen at least 4-5 fights of, so donīt ask where some the greatest are ;) .

Great LHW (no special order):

Archie Moore
Bob Foster
Michael Spinks
Michael Moorer
Roy Jones

Ezzard Charles is great!!! Have to organize more of his fights.

oldgringo
01-03-2005, 02:18 AM
Ezzard Charles
Archie Moore
Sam Langford
Michael Spinks
Michael Moorer
Gene Tunney
Bob Foster

These are the guys who I think of...Roy Jones in there somewhere too.

THRILLAinmanila
01-03-2005, 03:00 AM
My top 3:

1. Archie Moore
2. Michael Spinks
3. Michael Moorer

Dynamite76
01-23-2005, 05:51 PM
michael spinks
archie moore
ezzard charles
bob foster.

M26
01-24-2005, 06:11 AM
1. Archie Moore
2. Ezzard Charles
3. Roy Jones jr
4. Bob Foster
5. Michael Spinks

Raekwon
01-24-2005, 08:05 AM
1. Archie Moore
2. Ezzard Charles
3. Roy Jones jr
4. Bob Foster
5. Michael Spinks
id agree with that, maybe put spinks above foster in my opinion tho

buff_mike10
01-29-2005, 09:51 PM
Michael Spinks was a great ligh heavyweight. He is overlooked alot because of what Mike Tyson did to him in 91 seconds.

jayrichardse
01-30-2005, 06:43 PM
michael moore

dmar
06-27-2005, 08:41 PM
good choices..greb i rank number 2 middle..if tunney is in the light heavies hmmm..my list is 1. langford2.charles3.moore4.tunney5.foster6.conn7.sp inks8.laughran9.john henry lewis10.roy jones

Imira
06-28-2005, 06:22 PM
1. Michael Spinks
2. Ezzard Charles
3. Gene Tunney
4. Archie Moore
5. Charley Burley

JohnThomas1
07-08-2005, 09:05 AM
I love Spinks, but Foster MUST be ahead of him. Foster is right there with any LH in history. He ruled the division between 68 and 74. A massive hitter with either hand, probably bigger than even Spinks.

hellfire508
07-08-2005, 10:04 AM
Spinks, Langford, Tunney, Charles, Moore...in any order as long as they are there.

TIGER
07-10-2005, 09:11 AM
The Tiger Dariusz Michalczewski :boxing: 1 - Light Heavyweight

FistoftheDallasStar
07-10-2005, 01:56 PM
Ezzard Charles
Archie Moore
Sam Langford
Michael Spinks
Michael Moorer
Gene Tunney
Bob Foster

These are the guys who I think of...Roy Jones in there somewhere too.

I was waiting for someone to include Michael Moorer in the list, had to be oldgringo. All of Moorers wins were by KO in LH. Also Virgil Hill could be included on the list as well.

realheavyhands
07-10-2005, 04:20 PM
archie moore then charles

buddha_master
07-11-2005, 08:17 PM
Got to "The Mongoose" on top.....Foster #2 :D