its sad really, he has to wait for the rematch, then solimon gets his shot then winky then maye sturm, still being ducked and will continue to be ducked/aviod to next near, its a shame really is, sturm woulda beat both hopkins and taylor

hes gonna get a shot of what the middleweight Title? Its a possibility that he would have to 2007.

B/c if Hopkins fights Jermain in Oct. and wins. The he theres a posibilit that he fights Winky , lets say March. Let say he beats Winky in March he will probably levae his belts and fight Roy Jones or Tarver in Aug. Also lets say Jermain will figt again in Jan. against a bum then fight Soliman in May for a vacant title. the he might look for a fight against Winky in Sept. So in other words nobody wants to fight Sturm cause Sturm only fight Eurpean bums and not US bums. I fe he start fighting bums over here then he will get noticed.

Because lets say If Bernard fights Sturm right now, his status wont grow cause Sturms status is even lower than Eastman.

the middleweight champs have avoided Sturm.....in the same way that Lennox Lewis avoided Butterbean.....there's gotta be some substance behind the hype, Sturm is kinda pretty & all, but he can't punch and has ZERO wins vs. top 10 competition

It will all work out for Sturm, he will get his shot.

its sad really, he has to wait for the rematch, then solimon gets his shot then winky then maye sturm, still being ducked and will continue to be ducked/aviod to next near, its a shame really is, sturm woulda beat both hopkins and taylor


Your life is ruled by delusions.

Sturm would have lost to either of those guys last night.

Your life is ruled by delusions.

Sturm would have lost to either of those guys last night.
delusions, or lust, or youth, or drugs, or a wicked combo of the 4

delusions, or lust, or youth, or drugs, or a wicked combo of the 4



don't forget the jealousy, envy, and increasingly disturbing homoerotic undertones....

the middleweight champs have avoided Sturm.....in the same way that Lennox Lewis avoided Butterbean.....there's gotta be some substance behind the hype, Sturm is kinda pretty & all, but he can't punch and has ZERO wins vs. top 10 competition

I thought he messed up De La Hoya so I don't know what your talking about. One thing is for sure he's a pretty good fighter and showed that against Oscar. But I agree with the above, I think eventually he'll get his shot and then we can see what he's really made of

I thought he messed up De La Hoya so I don't know what your talking about. One thing is for sure he's a pretty good fighter and showed that against Oscar. But I agree with the above, I think eventually he'll get his shot and then we can see what he's really made of
Sturm was taller and stronger than Oscar, and he STILL got outworked in 7 outta 12 rounds, yeah Oscar had a swollen eye, but swelling does not equal winning rounds... Oscar was more active and Sturm really blew his 1 big chance at greatness and now he's been forced back to mediocrity where he belongs

bert schnek was a top 10 fighter and he KO'd him in 2, taylor is the one with no top 10 guys on his record pre hopkins fight, sturm was also ranked higher then taylor in like every system

bert schnek was a top 10 fighter and he KO'd him in 2, taylor is th eone with no top 10 guys on his record pre hopkins fight, sturm was also ranked higher then taylor in liek ever system\


and sactown u are stil loen of the very few people who still think DLH beat sturm its quite funny
still think DLH beat Sturm....so who took home the WBO belt that night???...it wasn't Sturm.....the judges and myself all had it 115-113 for Oscar, of course my card doesn't count, but the cards of 3 of Nevada's finest do count, and since they said Oscar won, that's ALL THAT COUNTS

Burt Schenk was WBO top 10, which counts for absolutely nothing, he was top 25-30 at best when Sturm beat him....

and Taylor owns a win vs. the man considered #1, not just in his division, but in the entire boxing world....

thank you for making my argument so easy, you're still the king of weak comebacks OscarRules!!! :)

bert schnek was a top 10 fighter


A WBO top ten fighter.

LOL!!

That's the funniest thing you said since your 1st post in this thread.

Sturm hasn't beat anyone.

No one ducks a guy that hasn't beat anyone.

Sturm may turn into a great fighter someday, but all your delusions, kidding yourself, and spamming isn't going to make that the case right now.

Let it go, and stop making people hate the guy by making everyone sick of him.

A WBO top ten fighter.

LOL!!

That's the funniest thing you said since your 1st post in this thread.

Sturm hasn't beat anyone.

No one ducks a guy that hasn't beat anyone.

Sturm may turn into a great fighter someday, but all your delusions, kidding yourself, and spamming isn't going to make that the case right now.

Let it go, and stop making people hate the guy by making everyone sick of him.
good call, & for better or worse, I'm now a Sturm hater just like I am a Klitschko hater, not for their work in and out of the ring, but because they have the most annoying and ridiculous fanbases who have this idea that their guy is a world-beater when in fact they are very average prizefighters

umm no u morons schenk was top in in IBF WBA and WBO, morons lmao. owned..

umm no u morons schenk was top in in IBF WBA and WBO, morons lmao. owned..

Schenk was not a credible opponent, he had never fought outside of Germany, and he brings no validity to any kind of flaming nut hugging you're trying to put on here.

I'll say it again:

Sturm hasn't beat anyone.

No one ducks a guy that hasn't beat anyone.

Sturm may turn into a great fighter someday, but all your delusions, kidding yourself, and spamming isn't going to make that the case right now.

Let it go, and stop making people hate the guy by making everyone sick of him.

Sturm will eventually get his shot but it ain't going to be against Hopkins if he wins the rematch. Hopkins said he will only fight two more times. The rematch with Taylor and if he wins then another big fight but that's it. Sturm isn't a big fight. So Sturm better hope Taylor wins in the rematch and he would have to come over here because I'm sure Taylor won't go there.

Schenk was not a credible opponent, he had never fought outside of Germany, and he brings no validity to any kind of flaming nut hugging you're trying to put on here.

I'll say it again:

Sturm hasn't beat anyone.

No one ducks a guy that hasn't beat anyone.

Sturm may turn into a great fighter someday, but all your delusions, kidding yourself, and spamming isn't going to make that the case right now.

Let it go, and stop making people hate the guy by making everyone sick of him.


lmao what a pathetic peice of **** u are, u just said shcnek was only rate din WBO that means nothing then i prove u wrong and u go away from that subject,

lmao what a pathetic peice of **** u are, u just said shcnek was only rate din WBO that means nothing then i prove u wrong and u go away from that subject,

Even if that is true, it doesn't make him a top opponent, and doesn't bring any validity to the hype you're trying to whore out.

It's just like a jaded and immature little kid to grab on to a tiny aside of a point and act like that makes the overall bull **** he's trying to spew anymore credible.

I'll say it a 3rd time:

Sturm hasn't beat anyone.

No one ducks a guy that hasn't beat anyone.

Sturm may turn into a great fighter someday, but all your delusions, kidding yourself, and spamming isn't going to make that the case right now.

Let it go, and stop making people hate the guy by making everyone sick of him.

Even if that is true, it doesn't make him a top opponent, and doesn't bring any validity to the hype you're trying to whore out.

It's just like a jaded and immature little kid to grab on to a tiny aside of a point and act like that makes the overall bull **** he's trying to spew anymore credible.

I'll say it a 3rd time:

Sturm hasn't beat anyone.

No one ducks a guy that hasn't beat anyone.

Sturm may turn into a great fighter someday, but all your delusions, kidding yourself, and spamming isn't going to make that the case right now.

Let it go, and stop making people hate the guy by making everyone sick of him.


who did taylor beat to get a shot at hopkins?

Sturm has beaten better oppenets then taylor has lmao. and people hyped taylor 100X more then sturm lol, is taylor gets a shot sturm should definetly get one yet he aint, u dotn make the rankigns bozo, sturm is mandatory just about everywhere and cant even see a shot on the horrizon

who did taylor beat to get a shot at hopkins?

Sturm has beaten better oppenets then taylor has lmao. and people hyped taylor 100X more then sturm lol, is taylor gets a shot sturm should definetly get one yet he aint, u dotn make the rankigns bozo, sturm is mandatory just about everywhere and cant even see a shot on the horrizon


So you're saying that because Taylor didn't beat anyone either (His shut out of Joppy is clearly better than any win on Sturms' resume) that makes Sturm a better and more deserving fighter?

You don't even know what you're trying to say, you just excite yourself talking about Sturm.

4th time:


Sturm hasn't beat anyone.

No one ducks a guy that hasn't beat anyone.

Sturm may turn into a great fighter someday, but all your delusions, kidding yourself, and spamming isn't going to make that the case right now.

Let it go, and stop making people hate the guy by making everyone sick of him.

SturmSucks...just like my name says

So you're saying that because Taylor didn't beat anyone either (His shut out of Joppy is clearly better than any win on Sturms' resume) that makes Sturm a better and more deserving fighter?

You don't even know what you're trying to say, you just excite yourself talking about Sturm.

4th time:


Sturm hasn't beat anyone.

No one ducks a guy that hasn't beat anyone.

Sturm may turn into a great fighter someday, but all your delusions, kidding yourself, and spamming isn't going to make that the case right now.

Let it go, and stop making people hate the guy by making everyone sick of him.


u think joppy is good? lmao that says it all, 1 win vs joppy and u get a shot, maybe sturm should get a match with him to :rolleyes:

who the hell is bert schnek ,is he that bald guy??? SturmRules i agree that pople have hyped Taylor way too much. But if you compare them on skills that attract an audience, Taylor is way way way more watchable than Sturm. The man has like 3 Ko's his whole career, and he doesnt have blinding speed or agility that would make up for his lack of power. At least Jermain is powerful and can KO sumone at anytime.

who the hell is bert schnek ,is he that bald guy??? SturmRules i agree that pople have hyped Taylor way too much. But if you compare them on skills that attract an audience, Taylor is way way way more watchable than Sturm. The man has like 3 Ko's his whole career, and he doesnt have blinding speed or agility that would make up for his lack of power. At least Jermain is powerful and can KO sumone at anytime.


theres a copy of sendra vs sturmn in the DL section if u want to see his recent fight, hopefully the leachers have gotten them all yet

u think joppy is good? lmao that says it all, 1 win vs joppy and u get a shot, maybe sturm should get a match with him to :rolleyes:


Bottom line: Joppy is a better win than any on Sturms resume,

and for the 2nd time in this thread alone you're trying to change the issue, and act like that somehow brings validity to your overall point, which you're losing site of.

Sturm hasn't beat anyone.

No one is "ducking" someone who hasn't beaten anyone.

He will get a shot some day if he keeps winning.

In the meantime, you're only going to alienate people and cause them to dislike him by blindly and unjustly touting him like he's some kind of avoided marvel.

Grow up, stop acting like a fan crazed teen, and let it go.

i cant say Sturm is garbage but u cant say hes great either. Hes beaten pure bums, but its not his fault, he needs to move over to the states and start fighting over here so he can get a shot at sumtimg

Bottom line: Joppy is a better win than any on Sturms resume,

and for the 2nd time in this thread alone you're trying to change the issue, and act like that somehow brings validity to your overall point, which you're losing site of.

Sturm hasn't beat anyone.

No one is "ducking" someone who hasn't beaten anyone.

He will get a shot some day if he keeps winning.

In the meantime, you're only going to alienate people and cause them to dislike him by blindly and unjustly touting him like he's some kind of avoided marvel.

Grow up, stop acting like a fan crazed teen, and let it go.


and he has been winning, all this time, the robbery pulled on him in the oscar fight is ridiculos, there isnt anyone in the divsion now who deserves a shot more then sturm. Taylor hasnt beaten anyone either

Sturm is ight, but Tayler owned him befo. Now that Tayler's betta than few years back, I think he beats Sturm again. But then again, Sturm has improved too.

and he has been winning, all this time, the robbery pulled on him in the oscar fight is ridiculos, there isnt anyone in the divsion now who deserves a shot more then sturm. Taylor hasnt beaten anyone either

Taylor's win over Joppy (that was a main event PPV) was a better win than any on Sturm's resume, and he proved he is marketable.

There is no arguing that it was the better fight for Hopkins at this point.

Stop crying about it already.

He will get his shot if he keeps winning.

In the meantime, all you're doing is contributing to him being over hyped, and making people sick of him.

I can't tell if this was meant to be a joke or what.

Taylor and Hopkins would have not only beaten Sturm, they would have EMBARASSED him.

Taylor's win over Joppy (that was a main event PPV) was a better win than any on Sturm's resume, and he proved he is marketable.

There is no arguing that it was the better fight for Hopkins at this point.

Stop crying about it already.

He will get his shot if he keeps winning.

In the meantime, all you're doing is contributing to him being over hyped, and making people sick of him.

of course he will get a shot in 2006 lmao, he deserves a shot now, winky sam, ikeke, etc will all probally get shots before sturm get my point? his marketability is just fine in europe, Hopkisn gave Hakkar a shot so its not like it hasnt been done before, maybe another reason nobody knows who he is is becuase the likes of espn avoid his name like the plague, being ducked by fighters, being ducked by espn

of course he will get a shot in 2006 lmao, he deserves a shot now, winky sam, ikeke, etc will all probally get shots before sturm get my point? his marketability is just fine in europe, Hopkisn gave Hakkar a shot so its not like it hasnt been done before, maybe another reason nobody knows who he is is becuase the likes of espn avoid his name like the plague, being ducked by fighters, being ducked by espn


He didn't deserve a shot before Taylor.

Trying to say Taylor didn't deserve a shot before Sturm isn't a reason why Sturm deserves a shot.

Taylor's win over Joppy gave him the edge, and he was more marketable.

Now that there was a close competitve fight that Taylor won, there will be a rematch.

There's no injustice there, and nothing to cry about.

He didn't deserve a shot before Taylor.

Trying to say Taylor didn't deserve a shot before Sturm isn't a reason why Sturm deserves a shot.

Taylor's win over Joppy gave him the edge, and he was more marketable.

Now that there was a close competitve fight that Taylor won, there will be a rematch.

There's no injustice there, and nothing to cry about.

1 win over a guy like joppy does not outwiesh wins over fraizer, cherifi,DLH,sendra,schenk

1 win over a guy like joppy does not outwiesh wins over fraizer, cherifi,DLH,sendra,schenk

Robert Frazier fought to an 8 round draw against this guy http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=036282
before fighting Sturm

Cherifi was KO'd by Eastman and MaGee the year before he fought Sturm.

Sturm LOST to Delahoya, and as angry as that makes you, a LOSS does not get you ranked any higher, no matter how much you feel it was the wrong decision.

Schenk was a German club fighter with ZERO credibility

Sendra was outpointed by Morrade Hakkar two fights before Sturm fought him.
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The only one you're kidding here is yourself.

the middleweight champs have avoided Sturm.....in the same way that Lennox Lewis avoided Butterbean.....there's gotta be some substance behind the hype, Sturm is kinda pretty & all, but he can't punch and has ZERO wins vs. top 10 competition

Exactly.


Unless, wait,dont tell me.he out jabbed a bloated de la hoya?

Robert Frazier fought to an 8 round draw against this guy http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=036282
before fighting Sturm

Cherifi was KO'd by Eastman and MaGee the year before he fought Sturm.

Sturm LOST to Delahoya, and as angry as that makes you, a LOSS does not get you ranked any higher, no matter how much you feel it was the wrong decision.

Schenk was a German club fighter with ZERO credibility

Sendra was outpointed by Morrade Hakkar two fights before Sturm fought him.
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The only one you're kidding here is yourself.


wanna pick apart competion now?

Taylors 2 wins

Joppy- Obliterated by the "blown up welterwieght" tito, and absolutly demolish by hopkins then took a year off before taylor fought him.

Raul Marquez- uhhh NC3 with shane mosley? KO'd by vargas and yoriboy best win uhh anothny stephens

and i guess u havent heard of a robbey havent u, so i guess emanuel burton beat emanuel augustus to right cause hey a lose is a lose right no matter how angry u are?