View Full Version : Who do you regard as the best referee from this list?


HaglerSteelChin
07-30-2010, 12:49 AM
Many of these refs have been involved in controversies and their decsions been questioned. I personally think Mills Lane is a good referee and for more modern guys I like Tony Weeks and Steve Smoger, anyway here is a list of 10 refs and you pick who is the best.

r.burgundy
07-30-2010, 01:06 AM
i really like bayless.mercante was very good.too many good 1's.you should be asking which 1 is the worst.and that would be steele

Miburo
07-30-2010, 02:46 AM
Mills Lane, just loved that dude, no BS. Not sure if he's technically the best but he's the only referee I'd ever mention as a cool personality.

sonnyboyx2
07-30-2010, 04:09 AM
Mercante Sr. was the greatest referee in the history of this sport.

Toney616
07-30-2010, 08:01 AM
I have to go with Jay Nady, clamps down on excessive clinching and fouling
Hopkins vs Taylor I
Holyfield vs Toney- Should of docked points from Evan Fields for using his head though

mrbigshot
07-30-2010, 08:22 AM
i think baylees but for someone reason i voted for steele:werd:

KlownvonnomaD
07-30-2010, 09:16 AM
I went Steele. From the fights I've seen (and I'm not gonna claim I've seen loads) he seemed to be a good no nonsense kinda ref.

Kenny Bay is pretty damn good too.

CarlosG815
07-30-2010, 09:33 AM
I went Steele. From the fights I've seen (and I'm not gonna claim I've seen loads) he seemed to be a good no nonsense kinda ref.

Kenny Bay is pretty damn good too.

I believe it was Steele who ended the Taylor-Chavez fight with 3 seconds to go. That was a dick move and I can't imagine any other ref on that list making that call.

Mills' major claim to fame was ref'ing the Holyfield-Tyson 2 fight and made him a household name and also made his "lets get it on!" very popular. Hell, they even made him the clay ref on the celebrity deathmatch tv show.

It's hard to judge a referee but on that list nobody has been a part of more historic fights than Mercante Sr.

The_Demon
07-30-2010, 12:51 PM
Smoger and bayless are top two for me.cortez is a terrible ref

KillerRightHook
07-30-2010, 01:01 PM
Smoger and bayless are top two for me.cortez is a terrible ref

Agreed Cortez ruins fights but Bayless and Smoger are quality referees.:boxing:

HaglerSteelChin
07-30-2010, 08:35 PM
I expect everyone's opinion, but i changed on Bayless. I use to think he was quite good; liked his work on Jones-Tarver 1. But i don't like him in the pac fights. For example, he always gives fighters low blow warnings even when they are not low-how many times have you seen him warn Pac? Another example in the second Pac-JMM fight in Round 8 Pac is bleeding like Hell from a punch to the eye; not a headbutt. Yet he won't bring Pac to the ring physician to examine it. Yet one or two rounds later JMM is bleeing much less he brings JMM to the doctor. Well imagine if the ring doc in RD 8 said Pac's cut is dangerous stop the fight, than JMM wins by TKO.

Don't get me wrong, I thought JMM blew that fight, he needed to be like a shark around meat and finish pac off in Rd 8 as he couldn't see from the eye and admitted after the fight. BTW, that bloody F*king cutman Chavez did a hell of a job in saving pac's eye on that fight.

Joe Cortez has done both good and jobs as Richard Steele. Cortez did a great job in the first pac-jmm fight by not doing a premature stoppage. Same thing with Steele in the camacho-chavez fight, many refs would have stopped the beating earlier. Cortez didn't give Camacho a DQ for excessive holding in the Trindad fight, i mean it was wall to wall clinching and holding.

Carlos Padilla has some great moments as the thrilla in manilla and Duran-SRL 1, but at old age he became erratic. For example, take a look at Pac vs Hussein. Hussein was a bad undefeated Mother F trained by Jeff Fenech. Pac is pinoy and Padilla is pinoy, now look at what happens in Round 4?????? Hussein drops the mighty Pac with one stiff jab and he crumbles to the floor, padilla gives a slow count and when pac gets up-hussein comes in for the kill. But Pac keeps holding Hussein and wont let go- Padilla gives little effort in seperating them so Hussein comes in with an elbow to get the pinoy off him, but than Padilla in front of his people and fellow countrymen fighter takes a point away from Hussein giving more time for Pac to recover.

Hussein will later foul and fight a dirty fight, but it can't change what happened in Round 4.

I hear the Red K coming from *******s as i write. :ugh:

K-DOGG
07-30-2010, 08:38 PM
Good list of refs. Mills Lane definetly deserves the proper respect; but I'll cast my vote with Arthur Mercante Sr. He refereed throught 4 decades and did a fine job.

blaze778
07-30-2010, 08:47 PM
Mills Lane was one the ATG referees. But these days, I gotta go with Bayless. He picks the perfect time to stop fights and always on top of clinches and other rough stuff. He's very quick.

I like Smoger and Tony Weeks as well. Not sure what happened to Cortez. He used to be decent.

Steele gets a lot of **** for the Taylor-Chavez stoppage and he was booed for years following that fight. But he really is a great ref and it's a shame he'll always be remember for the Taylor stoppage. But then again, only hardcore fans pay attention to referees. Steele got a lot of exposure, although I am sure it wasn't the kind he appreciates.

GJC
07-30-2010, 10:22 PM
The best referee is the one you don't notice but out of that list i'd plump for Mercante Sr

BOXING 24/7
07-30-2010, 10:28 PM
who ever voted for Cortez is retarded, Bayless is where it's at. Also the ref that ref'd the Cotto, Yuri fight was on point.

Anthony342
08-01-2010, 04:18 AM
who ever voted for Cortez is retarded, Bayless is where it's at. Also the ref that ref'd the Cotto, Yuri fight was on point.

That was Arthur Mercante Jr. and I thought so as well, he's a very good ref. I voted for Mercante Sr. The only ones from that list I'm not too big on are Cortez, just average IMO and Steele, because of his premature stoppages in Chavez/Taylor 1 and Tyson/Ruddock 1.