Jeff Fenech has said Paul Briggs needs a miracle to beat Danny Green this Wednesday night.

What the hell kind of thing is that to say about a guy you're supposed to be helping? I don't want to believe Fenech got involved to try and spoil the event with a comment like that, which is what Briggs has suggested in the press. Unbelievable.

Further ****tiness in the week ahead, here is Lenny Zappavigna's opponent this Thursday night (yes that's right, Australia's latest world champion and Andy Raymond golden boy):

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=370677&cat=boxer

Got a feeling I'll be on a downer come Friday.

Just out of curiosity i thought id save myself the effort of creating an entire new thread, is anyone here thinking of going to the Zappavigna fight in Fairfield?

I was going to buy the Briggs fight. I think I'm going to pass now though. It just sounds like its going to be a joke. I don't wanna see that ****wit beat Paul up.

Just out of curiosity i thought id save myself the effort of creating an entire new thread, is anyone here thinking of going to the Zappavigna fight in Fairfield?

Er, no. I'll pass on that. Not even worthy of television.

Jeff Fenech has said Paul Briggs needs a miracle to beat Danny Green this Wednesday night.

What the hell kind of thing is that to say about a guy you're supposed to be helping? I don't want to believe Fenech got involved to try and spoil the event with a comment like that, which is what Briggs has suggested in the press. Unbelievable.

Further ****tiness in the week ahead, here is Lenny Zappavigna's opponent this Thursday night (yes that's right, Australia's latest world champion and Andy Raymond golden boy):

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=370677&cat=boxer

Got a feeling I'll be on a downer come Friday.

I just read the article you're referring to. "Criminal" eh? That's kinda ironic coming from a man convicted of stealing watches.

Fenech slams 'criminal' title fight

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/fenech-slams-criminal-title-fight-20100718-10g1u.html

Shame about the guy Zappa's fighting. I did read somewhere they had difficulty in getting a decent opponent.

Granted Jeff has a big mouth.
But read what he has to say about Green & Mundine's fights of late & tell me it isn't spot on.
In this instance Jeff is telling it like it is.

Read the content not the author's name guys.

Granted Jeff has a big mouth.
But read what he has to say about Green & Mundine's fights of late & tell me it isn't spot on.
In this instance Jeff is telling it like it is.

Read the content not the author's name guys.

He didn't exactly pick the right time and place to be critical though did he?

It's just unfair to be slamming Briggs' chances two days before the fight, especially when you were involved with training him.

Surely he could have offered some words of encouragement instead.

Granted Jeff has a big mouth.
But read what he has to say about Green & Mundine's fights of late & tell me it isn't spot on.
In this instance Jeff is telling it like it is.

Read the content not the author's name guys.

Yeah, you can't say he isn't right.

I'm not concerned about the timing either to be honest.

**** it, if its a joke call it a joke. Paul's a big boy he can take care of himself. If Jeff calling the fight a joke is going to send him home in tears then that's just too bad.

He didn't exactly pick the right time and place to be critical though did he?

It's just unfair to be slamming Briggs' chances two days before the fight, especially when you were involved with training him.

Surely he could have offered some words of encouragement instead.

Who cares about "the right time and the right place". The sport is dieing in this country. Green and Mundine are providing a smoke-screen right now but they are not creating lasting interest. When they leave there will be nothing.

I knew he was critical of the fight a few days back, but I hadn't read that. Wow. Devastating coming from Jeff. I think he should have waited until Thursday morning though. His words could yet backfire on him if Briggs is competitive, and at the least it's bitter and ungracious to be spoiling their promotion.

Can't help but think he's spot-on though.

Who cares about "the right time and the right place". The sport is dieing in this country. Green and Mundine are providing a smoke-screen right now but they are not creating lasting interest. When they leave there will be nothing.

Do you really believe that?

I don't think the health of the whole sport is reflected by the actions of a couple of PPV stars. When those 2 clowns eventually **** off into retirement the sport will be better off, not worse.

Do you really believe that?

I don't think the health of the whole sport is reflected by the actions of a couple of PPV stars. When those 2 clowns eventually **** off into retirement the sport will be better off, not worse.

Yeah, I do believe it.

The second tier of fighter in this country gets absolutely no recognition right now, imagine how bad it will be when those two cunts aren't there to push the boat. It won't simply be a matter of guys replacing them, they don't have the profile and no attempt is made to build them up.

Yeah, I do believe it.

The second tier of fighter in this country gets absolutely no recognition right now, imagine how bad it will be when those two cunts aren't there to push the boat. It won't simply be a matter of guys replacing them, they don't have the profile and no attempt is made to build them up.

LOL. That made me laugh, it is true. But that time will come sooner or later and we have to start thinking about it.

Can't image what it would be like without having Mundine to bag out.

I see you finally believe he is going to get murdered now, lol.

LOL. That made me laugh, it is true. But that time will come sooner or later and we have to start thinking about it.

Can't image what it would be like without having Mundine to bag out.

As much as we hate these guys they generate massive interest. If people think them leaving will allow other guys to just slip into their positions they have another thing coming. It is the profile of those guys (Green just because he fed off Mundine for years) that has put them at that level. Noone is coming up who will even go close to generating that kind of interest.

The sport is in massive trouble in this country. Massive.

Yeah, I do believe it.

The second tier of fighter in this country gets absolutely no recognition right now, imagine how bad it will be when those two cunts aren't there to push the boat. It won't simply be a matter of guys replacing them, they don't have the profile and no attempt is made to build them up.

I think of it differently. The second tier of fighter gets minimal recognition precisely because those clowns above are sucking up all the oxygen. They're not pushing the boat, they're sinking the bloody thing. I'd like to think once they both leave the sport for good, the media will get over its fascination with them and move on.

Hopefully this will allow some space for the next generation of fighters to rise to the occasion.

I think of it differently. The second tier of fighter gets minimal recognition precisely because those clowns above are sucking up all the oxygen. They're not pushing the boat, they're sinking the bloody thing. I'd like to think once they both leave the sport for good, the media will get over its fascination with them and move on.

Hopefully this will allow some space for the next generation of fighters to rise to the occasion.

Yeah see, I don't think boxing has a monopoly on that "space". I think once these guys go other sports will consume that space.

Who is going to fill it? Who is going to get all this media attention? Which fighter that is currently getting 0 media attention will suddenly start getting big PPV cards and double spreads in national newspapers?

None of them will. That media money, that publicity, that attention, that money from the consumers' wallet will go to another sport with bigger personalities, better structures, better media attention and a better fan base - AFL, League, Union, cricket, football, take your pick.

The proof is in the subject heading of this thread - Lenny Zappavigna is fighting a nobody this Thursday night and nobody cares.

Mundine fights a nobody every few months and it's big news.

Green and Mundine have promotional entities to promote themselves. Green has made a greater effort to give young guys a spot in the limelight. Mundine has done nothing.

No-one appears to be putting, say, Will Tomlinson and Lenny Zappa head to head or building a buzz for that fight to happen a little way down the track. Nothing like what Top Rank or GBP or Frank Warren or any other promoter anywhere else does in the sport. No-one's filled the void left by "Break Even" Bill Mordey.

The proof is in the subject heading of this thread - Lenny Zappavigna is fighting a nobody this Thursday night and nobody cares.

Mundine fights a nobody every few months and it's big news.

Green and Mundine have promotional entities to promote themselves. Green has made a greater effort to give young guys a spot in the limelight. Mundine has done nothing.

No-one appears to be putting, say, Will Tomlinson and Lenny Zappa head to head or building a buzz for that fight to happen a little way down the track. Nothing like what Top Rank or GBP or Frank Warren or any other promoter anywhere else does in the sport. No-one's filled the void left by "Break Even" Bill Mordey.


Agree totally. Love him or hate him Bill Mordey knew how to promote a fight. Granted he had better cattle to work with, but he knew how to get the media involved.

Yeah see, I don't think boxing has a monopoly on that "space". I think once these guys go other sports will consume that space.

Who is going to fill it? Who is going to get all this media attention? Which fighter that is currently getting 0 media attention will suddenly start getting big PPV cards and double spreads in national newspapers?

None of them will. That media money, that publicity, that attention, that money from the consumers' wallet will go to another sport with bigger personalities, better structures, better media attention and a better fan base - AFL, League, Union, cricket, football, take your pick.

The money and media attention aren't completely necessary, all that money goes into the pockets of green machine and Khoder Nasser anyway.

Boxing is a niche sport in this country and will always struggle to keep pace with the others. That's alright though, people who are more than just the casual fans of boxing can always seek asylum on the various online forums.

Maybe when the current circus acts die, another star will emerge who captures the public's attention. I'm not sure we exactly have one in the making just yet. Perhaps Katsidis having a title defense down under will be the start.

My point is that you don't need double page spreads and PPV's to have a healthy sport. Sure it'd be nice, but at ground roots the sport is still pretty healthy. The domestic fight nights are generally packed out, there is new emerging talent and people who enjoy boxing will continue to do just that.

It's not all doom and gloom I say.

Greeny on the hustings this morning, trying to sell his fight to a sceptical crowd. He strangely didn't wield the vaunted "massive history" assesment of Paul, but otherwise the sales pitch is identical to every other fight bar Jones Jnr:

''That's what makes this dangerous, I've got everything to lose, he's got everything to gain,'' Green said. ''It's a massive opportunity for Briggsy, a huge opportunity for him, so if he can be victorious on Wednesday night, well, then the world's his oyster professionally and financially."

On Siaca:

"I think this is going to be a much tougher fight for me because Siaca is going to be hungry.

"It's a massive opportunity for him, if he takes my world title it opens up big doors for him worldwide."

On Julio Cesar Dominguez:

“This is a massive opportunity for this bloke. If he knocks me off, he’s got a first world title and big paydays ahead of him. There’s a potential to make a lot of money from the sport. This is his shot at the big time.”

After Mungreen, boxing in Australia will be truly dead and buried. But, then again, Green might come back to fight the carcasses.

The money and media attention aren't completely necessary, all that money goes into the pockets of green machine and Khoder Nasser anyway.

Boxing is a niche sport in this country and will always struggle to keep pace with the others. That's alright though, people who are more than just the casual fans of boxing can always seek asylum on the various online forums.

Maybe when the current circus acts die, another star will emerge who captures the public's attention. I'm not sure we exactly have one in the making just yet. Perhaps Katsidis having a title defense down under will be the start.

My point is that you don't need double page spreads and PPV's to have a healthy sport. Sure it'd be nice, but at ground roots the sport is still pretty healthy. The domestic fight nights are generally packed out, there is new emerging talent and people who enjoy boxing will continue to do just that.

It's not all doom and gloom I say.

Fair enough, I was more referring to boxing as a mainstream or semi-mainstream sport.

Greeny on the hustings this morning, trying to sell his fight to a sceptical crowd. He strangely didn't wield the vaunted "massive history" assesment of Paul, but otherwise the sales pitch is identical to every other fight bar Jones Jnr:

''That's what makes this dangerous, I've got everything to lose, he's got everything to gain,'' Green said. ''It's a massive opportunity for Briggsy, a huge opportunity for him, so if he can be victorious on Wednesday night, well, then the world's his oyster professionally and financially."

On Siaca:

"I think this is going to be a much tougher fight for me because Siaca is going to be hungry.

"It's a massive opportunity for him, if he takes my world title it opens up big doors for him worldwide."

On Julio Cesar Dominguez:

“This is a massive opportunity for this bloke. If he knocks me off, he’s got a first world title and big paydays ahead of him. There’s a potential to make a lot of money from the sport. This is his shot at the big time.”

Yeah, its like he's constantly just trying to remake Apollo Creed vs Rocky Balboa.

Fightbet has Green listed @$1.15 to win by KO and a frugal $1.07 just for the win. Hopefully Briggs can last a tad longer than Jones, Siaca and Van Niekirk.

Yeah, its like he's constantly just trying to remake Apollo Creed vs Rocky Balboa.

Green is being disingenuous with his comments. None of those guys were looking beyond the Green fight. It was their big moment. Dominguez hasn't fought again neither has Siaca and it's unlikely either will again. Just as Briggs has said tomorrow night is his last fight. The conceit is so obvious.

At least Choc has the good sense never to talk about his crap opponents. He always keeps the focus firmly on him. He at least gives a tacit acknowledgment of their craposity, usually by talking about easily he'll beat them. You never heard Choc once say Jerez or any of the others (their names escape me) had this 'massive opportunity' in front of them.

Somewhere out there are more fighters thinking, "****, if I lose this one, I might get a shot at Green/Mundine in Australia."

Jeez it's shocking breaking down these terrible bum fights in Australia.

A fuming Danny Green says his IBO cruiserweight world title bout against Paul Briggs will go ahead on Wednesday despite Briggs coming in over the agreed limit.

Briggs was left red-faced on Tuesday when he weighed in at 87.2kg, 3.2kg over the 84kg limit.

"When you come in at three kilograms over the weight that was designated over nine weeks ago, it's very unprofessional and it's very disrespectful," Green said.


Source: Fox Sports.

Good god this fight is going to be a joke.

The dude hasn't fought for three and a half years and was given a 6 week camp to prepare, but is still under the 200lb cruiserweight limit, and Green is still *****ing.

A fuming Danny Green says his IBO cruiserweight world title bout against Paul Briggs will go ahead on Wednesday despite Briggs coming in over the agreed limit.

Briggs was left red-faced on Tuesday when he weighed in at 87.2kg, 3.2kg over the 84kg limit.

"When you come in at three kilograms over the weight that was designated over nine weeks ago, it's very unprofessional and it's very disrespectful," Green said.


Source: Fox Sports.

Good god this fight is going to be a joke.

I see Green is still playing around with his catch-weight nonsense.

As for Briggs coming in overweight, ****. All I can do is shake my head. Wouldn't mind seeing some photos though. I guess it's possible he came in overweight on purpose.

Video of the weigh-in here. Couldn't get a look at Briggs' torso, but his nonchalance suggests he didn't give two hoots about the catchweight:

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/boxing/briggs-set-to-feel-greens-wrath-20100720-10jav.html

A fuming Danny Green says his IBO cruiserweight world title bout against Paul Briggs will go ahead on Wednesday despite Briggs coming in over the agreed limit.

Briggs was left red-faced on Tuesday when he weighed in at 87.2kg, 3.2kg over the 84kg limit.

"When you come in at three kilograms over the weight that was designated over nine weeks ago, it's very unprofessional and it's very disrespectful," Green said.


Source: Fox Sports.

Good god this fight is going to be a joke.

At least Briggs is in shape.

At least Briggs is in shape.

dont know about been in shape, he tried his best to hide his guts from the cameras, lol.

God I hope Briggs shows more than everyone is predicting. I love the guy and would give a limb, possibly two, to see him spark Green.

Notice Danny wasn't as fired up at the face off. Briggs is a hard man and I'll never write him off

dont know about been in shape, he tried his best to hide his guts from the cameras, lol.

He looked in pretty decent shape to me.

Gotta love Paul's comments after the weigh in. You can tell he thinks Green is a sensationalist cunt and that he has no respect for him.

God I hope Briggs shows more than everyone is predicting. I love the guy and would give a limb, possibly two, to see him spark Green.

Notice Danny wasn't as fired up at the face off. Briggs is a hard man and I'll never write him off

Let's hope Paul can do himself proud, I just dont want to see him get beaten badly against this tool.

So the big question is Dan... are you still going to watch it? I've been wavering this past week but I've decided to head out and catch the action somewhere. Whoeever's right hand gets there first wins, and looking at Briggs' ambivalence towards Green, and Green's fuming at losing control of matters (first with Fenech and now with the catchweight), I think there'll be some madness when the bell rings.

So the big question is Dan... are you still going to watch it? I've been wavering this past week but I've decided to head out and catch the action somewhere. Whoeever's right hand gets there first wins, and looking at Briggs' ambivalence towards Green, and Green's fuming at losing control of matters (first with Fenech and now with the catchweight), I think there'll be some madness when the bell rings.

No I'm not going to watch it mate. I was going to buy it, but I've decided against. I've got a fair bit on at the moment, plus they don't show the fights in many places up here and I do not own a car.

Green will most likely win easily anyway, and I don't really want to see that.

Got no problems with the comment personally, Fenech's under no illusions, who knows, saying this might make Briggs lift to prove him wrong rather than hearing 'Yeah Paul's looking good, best shape he's been in bla bla bla'

Time to bring the ruckus Briggsy boy. Prepare for war (for a few rounds at least). Green to get disqualified for intentional head butts.