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Taneras
07-11-2005, 04:00 PM
I recently started taking some boxing classes (a week ago), and I wanted to start off on the right foot. I've skimmed through this part of the forum a few times and have read that lifting weights does nothing for boxing. Which sucks because I am lifting weights 4-5 days a week.

What can I do to improve myself as far as boxing goes?

boxer2k5
07-11-2005, 04:02 PM
I recently started taking some boxing classes (a week ago), and I wanted to start off on the right foot. I've skimmed through this part of the forum a few times and have read that lifting weights does nothing for boxing. Which sucks because I am lifting weights 4-5 days a week.

What can I do to improve myself as far as boxing goes?

the main thing is endurence
you need that more than muscles

your trainer or whoever give out the classes can work on your technique

Taneras
07-11-2005, 04:05 PM
Ok, as far as endurance goes...

I am litterally staring at a pool as I type (we have one in our back yard.). Is swimming good? Running? Jump rope? Sorry, but I've always seen boxers jumping rope. Those all work good on endurance? Or is there something else that works better?

As far as technique goes, how can I work on it while I am not at the gym? The only thing I know is shadow boxing... Is that it?

EDIT: When you said I need more then just muscles, are you saying I should continue to work out? Or spend my time on other things?

Mick Hucknall
07-11-2005, 04:13 PM
You should cut down on the amount of weights you do. You want to have a lean muscly frame built for power and endurance. Bulk isn't goin to get you very far.

Reign Supreme
07-11-2005, 04:40 PM
It depends on what your goals are ! Are you trying to compete ? Are you just doing it to stay in shape ?! I started boxing/kickboxing/mma almost 4 years ago and I realized that I had to run more (2-5 miles 4-5 days a week) and lift less (don't lift for mass and only lift 3 days a week). Another way to get better is to shadow box believe it or not ! When you shadow box, practice the techniques your trainer teaches you in the gym. Try to visualize that you are fighting an actual opponent.

Taneras
07-11-2005, 05:14 PM
It depends on what your goals are ! Are you trying to compete ? Are you just doing it to stay in shape ?! I started boxing/kickboxing/mma almost 4 years ago and I realized that I had to run more (2-5 miles 4-5 days a week) and lift less (don't lift for mass and only lift 3 days a week). Another way to get better is to shadow box believe it or not ! When you shadow box, practice the techniques your trainer teaches you in the gym. Try to visualize that you are fighting an actual opponent.

When you shadow box, do you do it bare knuckle, wrapped hands, or wrapped hands with gloves?

EXIGE
07-11-2005, 08:02 PM
I recently started taking some boxing classes (a week ago), and I wanted to start off on the right foot. I've skimmed through this part of the forum a few times and have read that lifting weights does nothing for boxing. Which sucks because I am lifting weights 4-5 days a week.

What can I do to improve myself as far as boxing goes?
Get yourself a training regime, many people have posted theres on this part of the forum before i dunno if you have ever seen one?

Something like this (really simple), to be done every day:
- 20 press ups (x4)
- 20 sit ups (x4)
- 20 pike sit ups (x4)
- 20 minutes jump rope
- 2 minute round of shadow boxing (x5)

That will help you generally build up a bit of strength and general fitness. To supplement this, do a bit of running possibly. Not much however. If your anything like me and it is awkward for you to run, then boxing is a good sport for you cos its something that requires minimal attention compared to bag work and such and such.

There is a member on this forum called Spinksjinx who is good on diets, although others know lots aswell about this, he is the best person to ask in my opinion. So get yourself a good diet, just keep it simple. You know, fruits, veg, white meat, water. Just the really good stuff. To check this in more detail speak to him though.

All of this done properly and strictly will set you up really well for a great amateur career in my opinion.

EXIGE
07-11-2005, 08:03 PM
Oh for shadow-boxing, most do it with just handwraps on.

However you could do it with any combination you mentioned. Another wise thing to do may be to wear your mouthguard aswell, just to get used to breathing through it whilst boxing.

Good luck :D.

boxer2k5
07-11-2005, 09:00 PM
you got alot of questions
how come you dont have your trainer tell you and show you these things

Taneras
07-11-2005, 10:12 PM
you got alot of questions
how come you dont have your trainer tell you and show you these things

Because I have only seen him once... We went over the jab, and the jab straight combo, foot work, and how to wrap your hands properly. He also briefly explained how to shadow box, but other then that, we didn't go over everything else. He can't tell me everything in a day.

Hunna
07-12-2005, 02:26 AM
speed is something u cant buy, its natural. Some people can lift weights all there life and still be fast, some people lift weights and lose speed, what do u see yaself as?

Tha Greatest
07-12-2005, 02:49 AM
I recently started taking some boxing classes (a week ago), and I wanted to start off on the right foot. I've skimmed through this part of the forum a few times and have read that lifting weights does nothing for boxing. Which sucks because I am lifting weights 4-5 days a week.

What can I do to improve myself as far as boxing goes?

What city you from?

Taneras
07-12-2005, 07:54 AM
What city you from?

Baton Rouge, Louisiana

Slipx
07-12-2005, 08:28 AM
where u takin boxin classes in br & who is teachin em? im from N.O., i know br well

and i believe speed can be gained in the gym, i used to be very slow with my left hand and now its so fast its un avoidable

i was fat too though, then

dionysusolympus
07-12-2005, 09:00 AM
I recently started taking some boxing classes (a week ago), and I wanted to start off on the right foot. I've skimmed through this part of the forum a few times and have read that lifting weights does nothing for boxing. Which sucks because I am lifting weights 4-5 days a week.

What can I do to improve myself as far as boxing goes?

1. Get primers on boxing in general -- books, videos, DVDs, etc. and general fitness and lifting weights, if you're into it.
2. Pay attention to the coaches/trainers closely.
3. Learn to hit the heavy bag, speed bag, reflex bag, etc. properly. It's going to take time, practice and patience so if you're frustrated, just keep on going.
4. Practice footwork! Learn to get your punches to flow while relaxed.
5. Run, run, run!
6. Have fun! You may get harassed by fellow boxers and trainers/coaches, but if you persist, you will do just fine. Once they appreciate that you're actually improving or bettering them, they will respect you for it.

Hunna
07-12-2005, 10:49 AM
where u takin boxin classes in br & who is teachin em? im from N.O., i know br well

and i believe speed can be gained in the gym, i used to be very slow with my left hand and now its so fast its un avoidable

i was fat too though, then

once u lose some weight, obviously ya speed increases and snap in ya arm. I got a mate whos lightenning fast and he smokes weed, and gets heavy on the drugs. he would literally come off the street into the gym n spar. Trainers loved him cos he put up awesome spars, for fighters preparing for fites, but when it came 2 pre-matched fites, he wouldnt turn up cos he would be 2 concerned about drugs.

Reign Supreme
07-12-2005, 01:49 PM
That's how most boxing coaches start you off doing. When you are away from the gym, try working on throwing the jab & jab/straight combo while working on your footwork. It's going to seem awkward at first (kind of like learning a new dance step) but once you find your rhythm, it'll become alot easier.

Hunna
07-12-2005, 03:45 PM
yeh, ryhthm is so important,cant stress it enough, goes hand in hand with fluency

cmkneeland
07-18-2005, 03:03 PM
Has anyone seen the title boxing interval training DVD? Will that be a good condtioning work out?

chopper77
07-18-2005, 04:38 PM
When you shadow box try and do it in front of a mirror. When the left goes keep the right up, and vice versa. Watch fights, watch fighters, run a lot. When you run shadow box. Once your training gets a little easy, then turn it up a knotch. Never let your body get comfortable. Ali said the only way a fighter can get in shape is to fight his way in shape. Keep asking questions too. If someone has a problem with you asking questions, then settle it in the ring. If you get your ass kicked, so what, it's only and ass whupin. You'll get over it, and probably learn something in the process.

Inf3rn0
07-18-2005, 05:40 PM
6. Have fun! You may get harassed by fellow boxers and trainers/coaches, but if you persist, you will do just fine. Once they appreciate that you're actually improving or bettering them, they will respect you for it.

I agrre. Although when i started by boxing gym erveryone was ok, now that im a regualar and iv been there quite a bit, we see people come in one week, new, and discuss whether there come in anymore, some do, some dont. If anyone "sizes" up to you or anything and thinks there better than you or anything, just train slightly harder and settle the dispute in the ring , like what has already been suggested. If you loose then correct any mistakes you made and perfect them, then, if you want, fight the person again amd again till you beat them then move on(but only if you want to).


sorry to ramble on, hope it made sense,soz if it didnt