By Scoop Malinowsky:

More Questions: The WBC is now under pressure to strip Vitali Klitschko of his WBC belt because he wants to defend against Calvin Brock in September before meeting the winner of the August showdown between Rahman-Barrett in December. Why are Rahman's people so eager to strip Vitali? They know Rock will automatically get the next WBC shot if he beats Barrett. Why can't they wait just a few months? Would they prefer to steal the WBC belt from Klitschko rather than actually have to get in a ring with him to try and take it the real way? And why would the WBC, if they strip Klitschko as they very likely will try to do, why would they forfeit the sanction fee of Klitschko-Brock? Is the reason because they feel obligated to cater to a promoter who fears the Klitschkos?

Why can't Rahman wait just a few months till December to fight Klitschko? It's not like he really deserves the shot anyway, look at his recent victories over subpar opposition.

The whole thing is beginning to smell like an all-out Don King assualt to freeze out the Klitschko from his heavyweight world.

Will Don King ever put himself in a position to match his fighters with either Klitschko with no options, no nothing? Would he ever put himself in the position to stand at a press conference after the Klitschkos have destroyed Brewster or Rahman or Byrd and stand there in the background like a secondary figure? What would he say then, Viva The Ukraine!??

Vitali has delayed the fight 4 times. What a ridiculous ******* that writer is. He must crave Vitali's dick.

im a klitschko fan we all kow that. im also a rahman fan. but IMO if the winner of the rahman barret fight IS WILLING TO FIGHT like a month after, then vitali should have to just do his mandatory. otherwise let him have a volunteer defence, n set up a fight for the winter

i say, let frankenstein fight Brock, Rahman or Barret can have what's left over

Rahman is hungry right now but he is getting ahead of himself. I woulden't be surprised if Barrett beats him. Then I will really be laughing. I see him on tv at parties, I don't even know if he is taking this fight serious.

i think peopel forget that rahman back out of this fight in the first place before he stopped whining like a little *****

The Klitschko Brothers are an embarrassment to the sport. I don't see how any true boxing fan can cheer for these guys. One of em chooses to fight in court rather than take on a guy that put him on his ass last time they fought.

The other one backs out of fighting his first dangerous opponent 4 TIMES. Strip him already. And send Wlad back down to the bottom of the rankings where his ***** ass belongs.

Viva The Ukraine!??

Is the guy who wrote that article from Ukraine or something? Because he seems fond of the brothers.

Vitali has delayed the fight 4 times. What a ridiculous ******* that writer is. He must crave Vitali's dick.

Read the full article. He seems to like both V and W.

I agree with riz. It would be easier for Vitali (especially if he wants to keep the green belt) if he just waits and see what happens in Rahman-Barret. If the winner of that mentioned fight would be unable to fight within a month, then go ahead with Brock. Remember that Vitali already used his optional defense against that of a mismatch with Danny.

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take on a guy that put him on his ass last time they fought.

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Man if one knockdown means rematch then we got along list of embarrassments. We need to see
Tito Mayorga 2
Byrd Mcline 2
Ruiz Toney 2
Ruiz Golata 2
Wlad Brewster 2
Brock Mcline 2
and so on........

Now if you would have said the fight was not conclusive you may of had a point.......

The Klitschko Brothers are an embarrassment to the sport. I don't see how any true boxing fan can cheer for these guys. One of em chooses to fight in court rather than take on a guy that put him on his ass last time they fought.

The other one backs out of fighting his first dangerous opponent 4 TIMES. Strip him already. And send Wlad back down to the bottom of the rankings where his ***** ass belongs.


Amen. :boxing:

Here's my take,

Let him keep the WBC title, and fight whoever he wants. If Rahman isn't available until later in the fall, so be it. Let him fight Maskiev, Brock or whoever.

But strip the man of the Ring Belt.

The biggest blow to the Ring belt's credibility was sanctioning Vitali vs Sanders for their belt, which in reccent years was gaining more and more credibility. Since then, he's fought once in 18th months, and it was agaisnt Danny Williams.

I would have less of a problem with him fighting scrubs, and taking his time deciding what he wants to do if he just was a WBC title holder.

But this whole Ring Belt, in conjunction with HBO, calling and touting Vitali Klitschko as "THE" Heavyweight champion is bull ****.

Everyone is at square one at Heavyweight. All of them. None of them are particularly impressive, they've all fought soft opposition to a certian extent, and they're all too inactive.

Vitali Klitschko NEVER should have been declaired the "Ring" Champion, and this is evident in the hard facts about who he's fought since, and what he's doing now.

The "Ring" title should be held vacent until someone unifies the "WBC" WBA" and "IBF" titles. THAT'S where the liniage should continue.
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Here's my take,

Let him keep the WBC title, and fight whoever he wants. If Rahman isn't available until later in the fall, so be it. Let him fight Maskiev, Brock or whoever.

But strip the man of the Ring Belt.

The biggest blow to the Ring belt's credibility was sanctioning Vitali vs Sanders for their belt, which in reccent years was gaining more and more credibility. Since then, he's fought once in 18th months, and it was agaisnt Danny Williams.

I would have less of a problem with him fighting scrubs, and taking his time deciding what he wants to do if he just was a WBC title holder.

But this whole Ring Belt, in conjunction with HBO, calling and touting Vitali Klitschko as "THE" Heavyweight champion is bull ****.

Everyone is at square one at Heavyweight. All of them. None of them are particularly impressive, they've all fought soft opposition to a certian extent, and they're all too inactive.

Vitali Klitschko NEVER should have been declaired the "Ring" Champion, and this is evident in the hard facts about who he's fought since, and what he's doing now.

The "Ring" title should be held vacent until someone unifies the "WBC" WBA" and "IBF" titles. THAT'S where the liniage should continue.
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bozo.. shut the **** up..

Funny how every hater's views are so dumb.. all of them have the red bars, which mean 0 credibility for the garbage that's coming out of their little pie holes..

Funny how every hater's views are so dumb.. all of them have the red bars, which mean 0 credibility for the garbage that's coming out of their little pie holes..
Ok, I have some blue ones, how's my credibility?

I think Vitali should be stripped by the WBC if he choses to fight anyone other than his mandatory on Sept. 24th. The WBC rules about this are CRYSTAL CLEAR. He won a vacant title and was entitled to one voluntary defense (Williams) before a mandatory or he will be stripped. However, this hinges on the availability of the mandatory. If the winner of Rock - Barrett fight is not ready by September 24th, Vitali is entitled to fight anyone.

The thing is, look at the date Vitali picked. He intentionally picked a date one month after the WBC eliminatory bout so that the winner would more than likely not have enough time to prepare and would have to declare themselves not available. That, IMHO, is a ***** move. He's trying to circumvent fighting anyone he has to fight and just picking his opponents. Will he be injured again after the voluntary defense and have to keep postponing his live matches until the challenger is again unavailable due to him taking a fight to stay active?

To prevent this last scenario from happening, the WBC should just strip Vitali if he fights anyone but his mandatory.

2003-06-21 Lennox Lewis 24.5 months ago
2003-12-06 Kirk Johnson 19 months ago
2004-04-24 Corrie Sanders 14.5 months ago
2004-12-11 Danny Williams 7 months ago

As you can see, Vitali fought roughly every 6 months until his back injury that will result in only a 9 month layoff.

Bozo has posted that Vitali only had one fight (with Danny Williams) in the last 18 months, as you can see, the truth is that Vitali has fought 2 fights in the last 14.5 months and 3 fights in the last 19 months.

This is just one example of how fictitious Bozo's claims are. Knowing he is willing to lie about such easily obtainable information such as fight dates proves that everything he says must be questioned for it's credibility.

This just further proves Bozo's objective is not to debate the topic, but to get on the nerves of Klitschko fans and he will say or do anything to accomplish that goal including lie. Now watch this scum bag say "I'm just a delusional Klitschko fan" even though I've provided facts that prove he's a fraud.

Ok, I have some blue ones, how's my credibility?

I think Vitali should be stripped by the WBC if he choses to fight anyone other than his mandatory on Sept. 24th. The WBC rules about this are CRYSTAL CLEAR. He won a vacant title and was entitled to one voluntary defense (Williams) before a mandatory or he will be stripped. However, this hinges on the availability of the mandatory. If the winner of Rock - Barrett fight is not ready by September 24th, Vitali is entitled to fight anyone.

The thing is, look at the date Vitali picked. He intentionally picked a date one month after the WBC eliminatory bout so that the winner would more than likely not have enough time to prepare and would have to declare themselves not available. That, IMHO, is a ***** move. He's trying to circumvent fighting anyone he has to fight and just picking his opponents. Will he be injured again after the voluntary defense and have to keep postponing his live matches until the challenger is again unavailable due to him taking a fight to stay active?

To prevent this last scenario from happening, the WBC should just strip Vitali if he fights anyone but his mandatory.

The Rahman/Barrett fight was scheduled for July 23rd. It was Don King that moved the Rahman/Barrett date to August 13th, 5.5 weeks before the date the WBC ordered Vitali to defend his title.

The September 24th date was already set when King made the switch. Klitschko had nothing to do with it.

The Klitschko Brothers are an embarrassment to the sport. I don't see how any true boxing fan can cheer for these guys. One of em chooses to fight in court rather than take on a guy that put him on his ass last time they fought.

The other one backs out of fighting his first dangerous opponent 4 TIMES. Strip him already. And send Wlad back down to the bottom of the rankings where his ***** ass belongs.
Vitali is the WBC champ, Wlad is looking for a shot at Byrd and the title, u dont know nothing so plase stop talking...

If they steal the belt from Quitali...


My dream will come true...

Ok, I have some blue ones, how's my credibility?

I think Vitali should be stripped by the WBC if he choses to fight anyone other than his mandatory on Sept. 24th. The WBC rules about this are CRYSTAL CLEAR. He won a vacant title and was entitled to one voluntary defense (Williams) before a mandatory or he will be stripped. However, this hinges on the availability of the mandatory. If the winner of Rock - Barrett fight is not ready by September 24th, Vitali is entitled to fight anyone.

The thing is, look at the date Vitali picked. He intentionally picked a date one month after the WBC eliminatory bout so that the winner would more than likely not have enough time to prepare and would have to declare themselves not available. That, IMHO, is a ***** move. He's trying to circumvent fighting anyone he has to fight and just picking his opponents. Will he be injured again after the voluntary defense and have to keep postponing his live matches until the challenger is again unavailable due to him taking a fight to stay active?

To prevent this last scenario from happening, the WBC should just strip Vitali if he fights anyone but his mandatory.
Vitali told everyone that he would be ready to fight in Septemeber before Rahman and Barret was scheduled. Why the hell would he wait for those bums and not fight when hes ready?
It makes no sense to me, if they are not gonna be ready for Septembet 24th then why does Klitschko have to wait for them???

Man if one knockdown means rematch then we got along list of embarrassments. We need to see
Tito Mayorga 2
Byrd Mcline 2
Ruiz Toney 2
Ruiz Golata 2
Wlad Brewster 2
Brock Mcline 2
and so on........

Now if you would have said the fight was not conclusive you may of had a point.......

but we all know that's the reason that Wlad won't fight him
all those other fights, the other guy deserved to win, usually came back and won in impressive fashion

why did you put Toney Ruiz II on there? LOL

but we all know that's the reason that Wlad won't fight him
all those other fights, the other guy deserved to win, usually came back and won in impressive fashion

why did you put Toney Ruiz II on there? LOL

That's just foolish - hate talk. Wlad won't fight him because he knocked him down, give me a break. Did you even watch the fight? If you did you were obviously wearing your anti-Klitschko glasses. Wlad was clearly off balance on the KD and got up at like the count of one to resume beating on Williamson. I'm not saying the KD didn't count, but please, to say that Wlad won't fight him because of that is a pretty weak argument.

I know you can fabricate a more viable argument than that. There are more realistic points to which you can base your silly anti-Wlad campaign.

I for one, don't see the point in Wlad fighting him again when he already beat him. As you Anti-Klitschko's like to say so often "a win is a win"

but we all know that's the reason that Wlad won't fight him
all those other fights, the other guy deserved to win, usually came back and won in impressive fashion

why did you put Toney Ruiz II on there? LOL

hey, greaseball..

if you tell me the name of the prison youre in, ill make sure they give you a hell of a hard time.. ;)

2003-06-21 Lennox Lewis 24.5 months ago
2003-12-06 Kirk Johnson 19 months ago
2004-04-24 Corrie Sanders 14.5 months ago
2004-12-11 Danny Williams 7 months ago

As you can see, Vitali fought roughly every 6 months until his back injury that will result in only a 9 month layoff.

Bozo has posted that Vitali only had one fight (with Danny Williams) in the last 18 months, as you can see, the truth is that Vitali has fought 2 fights in the last 14.5 months and 3 fights in the last 19 months.

This is just one example of how fictitious Bozo's claims are. Knowing he is willing to lie about such easily obtainable information such as fight dates proves that everything he says must be questioned for it's credibility.

This just further proves Bozo's objective is not to debate the topic, but to get on the nerves of Klitschko fans and he will say or do anything to accomplish that goal including lie. Now watch this scum bag say "I'm just a delusional Klitschko fan" even though I've provided facts that prove he's a fraud.



You haven't proved anything other than that, as usual, you're a wounded little girl.

I had the dates wrong in my post, I admit. I should have said he's fought TWICE in 18 months, which is a year and a half. And TAKE A LOOK at WHO he fought in those two fights.

Its funny how out of everything I said in my post, you only looked at the dates.

I will re post, and maybe you can read it again and try responding to the points I've made instead of issuing your tired respose "He's trying to make people upset" (just because it makes you upset.

Let him keep the WBC title, and fight whoever he wants. If Rahman isn't available until later in the fall, so be it. Let him fight Maskiev, Brock or whoever.

But strip the man of the Ring Belt.

The biggest blow to the Ring belt's credibility was sanctioning Vitali vs Sanders for their belt, which in reccent years was gaining more and more credibility. Since then, he's fought once in 18th months, and it was agaisnt Danny Williams.

I would have less of a problem with him fighting scrubs, and taking his time deciding what he wants to do if he just was a WBC title holder.

But this whole Ring Belt, in conjunction with HBO, calling and touting Vitali Klitschko as "THE" Heavyweight champion is bull ****.

Everyone is at square one at Heavyweight. All of them. None of them are particularly impressive, they've all fought soft opposition to a certian extent, and they're all too inactive.

Vitali Klitschko NEVER should have been declaired the "Ring" Champion, and this is evident in the hard facts about who he's fought since, and what he's doing now.

The "Ring" title should be held vacent until someone unifies the "WBC" WBA" and "IBF" titles. THAT'S where the liniage should continue.


My point is that the Ring Magazine made a mistake in sanctioning Vitali vs Sanders for thier title, and that with who Vitali has fought since and what he's doing now, only underlines the current meidocrity of the Heavyweight division at present. There should NOT be a recognized champion until someone unifies the titles.

As usual, you stick to calling me hateful and point out that I hurt your feelings.

As you can see, more and more people are growing tired of Vitali's bull ****, and your feelings are going to get stompped on more and more as this farce continues to go on.

Why don't you just post that quote from your signature a few more times? :rolleyes:

That's just foolish - hate talk. Wlad won't fight him because he knocked him down, give me a break. Did you even watch the fight? If you did you were obviously wearing your anti-Klitschko glasses. Wlad was clearly off balance on the KD and got up at like the count of one to resume beating on Williamson. I'm not saying the KD didn't count, but please, to say that Wlad won't fight him because of that is a pretty weak argument.

I know you can fabricate a more viable argument than that. There are more realistic points to which you can base your silly anti-Wlad campaign.

I for one, don't see the point in Wlad fighting him again when he already beat him. As you Anti-Klitschko's like to say so often "a win is a win"

you consider getting headbutted a win obviously LOL

so I guess everytime a fighter was in danger and got headbutted, he won the fight, right? EXPOSED

and all of you are right. The Ring jumped the gun in naming Vitali the Heavyweight Champion when he did nothing but lose his 2 biggest fights to earn that right :D

blowso,

the way you make everyone out to be girls - over the net.. doesent that make you a ***it?

are you in your fishnets now, getting attention from all the men..? :D

huh, blowso, is that your game? sure it is.

its elementary psychiatry, youre a ****ing ****sucker!

i bet you send loveletters to don king aswell.. :p

The Ring giving Vitali the belt was complete bull**** and everyone knows it.

First, Corrie Sanders went from being unranked to #3 as a result of the knockout of Wlad. As long as I have been reading Ring Mag (which is a LONG time) I don't ever remember a fighter getting such a big jump like that on the basis of one win.

Second, the Ring's policy was always #1 fights #2 for the vacant belt. Sanders was #3 and they decided to change their policy so that in some circumstances #1 v. #3 was OK.

I still think Vitali is the best HW in the world at the moment, until proven otherwise, but I completely lost respect for Ring when they pulled that bull****.

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..clever..

can you make your rabid red line make your ignore list aswell? :D

you consider getting headbutted a win obviously LOL

so I guess everytime a fighter was in danger and got headbutted, he won the fight, right? EXPOSED

Where did I say any of this?

These are your words, not mine.

You're speculating rather than quoting facts because there are no facts to back your claim.

You haven't proved anything other than that, as usual, you're a wounded little girl.

I had the dates wrong in my post, I admit. I should have said he's fought TWICE in 18 months, which is a year and a half. And TAKE A LOOK at WHO he fought in those two fights.

Its funny how out of everything I said in my post, you only looked at the dates.

I will re post, and maybe you can read it again and try responding to the points I've made instead of issuing your tired respose "He's trying to make people upset" (just because it makes you upset.

Let him keep the WBC title, and fight whoever he wants. If Rahman isn't available until later in the fall, so be it. Let him fight Maskiev, Brock or whoever.

But strip the man of the Ring Belt.

The biggest blow to the Ring belt's credibility was sanctioning Vitali vs Sanders for their belt, which in reccent years was gaining more and more credibility. Since then, he's fought once in 18th months, and it was agaisnt Danny Williams.

I would have less of a problem with him fighting scrubs, and taking his time deciding what he wants to do if he just was a WBC title holder.

But this whole Ring Belt, in conjunction with HBO, calling and touting Vitali Klitschko as "THE" Heavyweight champion is bull ****.

Everyone is at square one at Heavyweight. All of them. None of them are particularly impressive, they've all fought soft opposition to a certian extent, and they're all too inactive.

Vitali Klitschko NEVER should have been declaired the "Ring" Champion, and this is evident in the hard facts about who he's fought since, and what he's doing now.

The "Ring" title should be held vacent until someone unifies the "WBC" WBA" and "IBF" titles. THAT'S where the liniage should continue.


My point is that the Ring Magazine made a mistake in sanctioning Vitali vs Sanders for thier title, and that with who Vitali has fought since and what he's doing now, only underlines the current meidocrity of the Heavyweight division at present. There should NOT be a recognized champion until someone unifies the titles.

As usual, you stick to calling me hateful and point out that I hurt your feelings.

As you can see, more and more people are growing tired of Vitali's bull ****, and your feelings are going to get stompped on more and more as this farce continues to go on.

Why don't you just post that quote from your signature a few more times? :rolleyes:

WOW. This is the first time you've admitted you were wrong! That's a shocking improvement. Usually you deny the truth even with the facts before you. I'm not quite sure how to respond to that. You still have a long, insurmountable road back to the human race and respectability.

In regards to you hurting my feelings, I only wish you could see me chuckling at your posts. I can't prove to you that I'm sitting here chuckling, but the fact that I know that I am, for some reason makes it even funnier. :D

In regards to the rest of your post, I know your agenda. I know your objective is not to debate the topic, but to get on the nerves of Klitschko fans and you will say or do anything to accomplish that goal including lie. You have proven that countless times including in this very thread. Therefore you have no credibility and there is no point in discussing anything with you exept the fact that you are a fraud.

i would love to see vk fight rock/barrett in sept. but that seems so unrealistic that they could be ready in a month like that... so again, i dont see the point of not letting vk fight brock in sept and the winners meet in dec..... unless, as that writer points out, that rahman just wants the belt stripped from vk and to be given to him...

i really cant see vk being afraid of rahman.... i'm mean really, the guy that fought both lewis and byrd on short notice is afraid of the guy that lost to oleg and ruiz and just barely beat al cole by one round last year?? on the other hand, i dont think rahman is afraid either... i think king is trying to manipulate things to get control of the belts

WOW. This is the first time you've admitted you were wrong! That's a shocking improvement. Usually you deny the truth even with the facts before you. I'm not quite sure how to respond to that. You still have a long, insurmountable road back to the human race and respectability.

In regards to you hurting my feelings, I only wish you could see me chuckling at your posts. I can't prove to you that I'm sitting here chuckling, but the fact that I know that I am, for some reason makes it even funnier. :D

In regards to the rest of your post, I know your agenda. I know your objective is not to debate the topic, but to get on the nerves of Klitschko fans and you will say or do anything to accomplish that goal including lie. You have proven that countless times including in this very thread. Therefore you have no credibility and there is no point in discussing anything with you exept the fact that you are a fraud.


I was a few months off in the date I listed, and you pounced on it like it discredited my whole post.

You didn't want to adress it, because you have nothing to say to it.

It's OBVIOUS how upset my posts make YOU by the way you constantly assert my agenda is only to get on people's nerves (admitting any mild critisism of the Klitschko's gets on your nerves).

I really don't care what you think.

Everything you accuse me of, is what you're insecure about.

You talk about my agenda, yet it's clear by taking one look at your avatar and signature what you're all about.

You're in the top 2 of spitefull bitter deluded Klitschko fanatics on this site.

As you've done here (just like you always do) you ignore what I've wrote, and point a finger with your tired non sense.

As I've said before, you couldn't be anymore transparent if you tried.

I was a few months off in the date I listed, and you pounced on it like it discredited my whole post.

You didn't want to adress it, because you have nothing to say to it.

It's OBVIOUS how upset my posts make YOU by the way you constantly assert my agenda is only to get on people's nerves (admitting any mild critisism of the Klitschko's gets on your nerves).

I really don't care what you think.

Everything you accuse me of, is what you're insecure about.

You talk about my agenda, yet it's clear by taking one look at your avatar and signature what you're all about.

You're in the top 2 of spitefull bitter deluded Klitschko fanatics on this site.

As you've done here (just like you always do) you ignore what I've wrote, and point a finger with your tired non sense.

As I've said before, you couldn't be anymore transparent if you tried.

how come you just stopped calling people "girl" blowso..?

..just curious, thats all.. :D :D

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I was a few months off in the date I listed, and you pounced on it like it discredited my whole posts.
Your reputation as a proven liar and a fraud discredits your post.

You didn't want to adress it, because you have nothing to say to it.

It's OBVIOUS how upset my posts make YOU by the way you constantly assert my agenda is only to get on people's nerves (admitting any mild critisism of the Klitschko's gets on your nerves).
I said "your objective is not to debate the topic, but to get on the nerves of Klitschko fans and you will say or do anything to accomplish that goal including lie." Where did I say you succeeded? LOL
It's the fact that I know you are a phony that makes it impossible for you to hurt my feelings. In order for you to hurt my feelings would require me to regard your opinion as credible. It's no secret that I don't. LOL

I really don't care what you think.

Everything you accuse me of, is what you're insecure about.

You talk about my agenda, yet it's clear by taking one look at your avatar and signature what you're all about.

You're in the top 2 of spitefull bitter deluded Klitschko fanatics on this site.

As you've done here (just like you always do) you ignore what I've wrote, and point a finger with your tired non sense.

As I've said before, you couldn't be anymore transparent if you tried.

If you don't care what I think then why do you respond?

In regards to ignoring your post, I know your agenda. I know your objective is not to debate the topic, but to get on the nerves of Klitschko fans and you will say or do anything to accomplish that goal including lie. You have proven that countless times including in this very thread. Therefore you have no credibility and there is no point in discussing anything with you exept the fact that you are a fraud.

Also, my avitar and my sig means that I'm a Klitschko fan, and THAT'S IT. If you make more out of it, well that suits your agenda doesn't it?

I'm not being funny but this is getting very dull, why don't you just pm each other

I'm not being funny but this is getting very dull, why don't you just pm each other


tell that to guys starting a new hate VK thread every hour....

Vitali told everyone that he would be ready to fight in Septemeber before Rahman and Barret was scheduled. Why the hell would he wait for those bums and not fight when hes ready?
It makes no sense to me, if they are not gonna be ready for Septembet 24th then why does Klitschko have to wait for them???
Well, DK is telling everyone that the winner of Rock-Barrett will be ready to fight on Sept. 24th but the VK camp is still trying to make other fights. That is the reason why so many letters have been sent to the WBC by DK's lawyer (Bernstein), Rock, and Barrett. They want to fight on Sept. 24th, even if it's short time after their Aug 13th fight. So, if the mandatory says he'll be ready then there is no reason to make another fight unless you're scared.

how about unless you wanna make sure you have a fight on sept 24. what if the winner is cut or injured? then the fight gets pushed back to dec or later and vk will have to wait and stay out of the ring for a year or more?

how about unless you wanna make sure you have a fight on sept 24. what if the winner is cut or injured? then the fight gets pushed back to dec or later and vk will have to wait and stay out of the ring for a year or more?


....I think the winner will petition the WBC to extend the date after their fight. They are playing a game with that September 24th date and neither one intends to fight at that time. You will get another WBC ruling extending the fight just like you said. It could possibly even be a non visible injury excuse. They are gonna help keep VK even more inactive and make sure he comes into the ring rusty. Mark my words!!!

Your reputation as a proven liar and a fraud discredits your post.


I said "your objective is not to debate the topic, but to get on the nerves of Klitschko fans and you will say or do anything to accomplish that goal including lie." Where did I say you succeeded? LOL
It's the fact that I know you are a phony that makes it impossible for you to hurt my feelings. In order for you to hurt my feelings would require me to regard your opinion as credible. It's no secret that I don't. LOL



If you don't care what I think then why do you respond?

In regards to ignoring your post, I know your agenda. I know your objective is not to debate the topic, but to get on the nerves of Klitschko fans and you will say or do anything to accomplish that goal including lie. You have proven that countless times including in this very thread. Therefore you have no credibility and there is no point in discussing anything with you exept the fact that you are a fraud.

Also, my avitar and my sig means that I'm a Klitschko fan, and THAT'S IT. If you make more out of it, well that suits your agenda doesn't it?


You calling me a liar is realllllly rich.

Newsflash: The biggest lies are the ones you tell yourself.

You talk about credibility, and you have NONE. Anyone who reads one of your 'burrying your head in the sand' posts and takes one look at your avatar/signature shrine can see you're nothing more than a delusional raving fanatic.

My other thread is a prime example. I asked a legit and valid question about people's feelings about Vitali being recognized as the ring champion and everyone was able to answer in a coherent and constructive manner except YOU.

You immediatly went on the defensive (as you always do) and that speaks VOLUMES about you and your inner insecurities.

I will continue to post as I see fit, and if you don't like me pointing out your biased and blinded fanaticism, you can put me on ignore and stick your head in the sand like Vdiary did.

how about unless you wanna make sure you have a fight on sept 24. what if the winner is cut or injured? then the fight gets pushed back to dec or later and vk will have to wait and stay out of the ring for a year or more?
Well, in that case, the challenger would be considered unavailable and he can go ahead and fight whomever he wants.

Here's my take,

Let him keep the WBC title, and fight whoever he wants. If Rahman isn't available until later in the fall, so be it. Let him fight Maskiev, Brock or whoever.

But strip the man of the Ring Belt.

The biggest blow to the Ring belt's credibility was sanctioning Vitali vs Sanders for their belt, which in reccent years was gaining more and more credibility. Since then, he's fought once in 18th months, and it was agaisnt Danny Williams.

I would have less of a problem with him fighting scrubs, and taking his time deciding what he wants to do if he just was a WBC title holder.

But this whole Ring Belt, in conjunction with HBO, calling and touting Vitali Klitschko as "THE" Heavyweight champion is bull ****.

Everyone is at square one at Heavyweight. All of them. None of them are particularly impressive, they've all fought soft opposition to a certian extent, and they're all too inactive.

Vitali Klitschko NEVER should have been declaired the "Ring" Champion, and this is evident in the hard facts about who he's fought since, and what he's doing now.

The "Ring" title should be held vacent until someone unifies the "WBC" WBA" and "IBF" titles. THAT'S where the liniage should continue.
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who cares what u think...

Well, DK is telling everyone that the winner of Rock-Barrett will be ready to fight on Sept. 24th but the VK camp is still trying to make other fights. That is the reason why so many letters have been sent to the WBC by DK's lawyer (Bernstein), Rock, and Barrett. They want to fight on Sept. 24th, even if it's short time after their Aug 13th fight. So, if the mandatory says he'll be ready then there is no reason to make another fight unless you're scared.
Hes not scared of Rahman he just wants to fight in September and I dont think the winner of Rahman Barret will ready nobody does.
I think what they ought to do is cancel this bull****t fight between Barret and Rahman and have Rahman fight Klitschko on September 24th, that will be the easiest thing to do. Setting up an interim match was the dumbest thing they ever did....

You calling me a liar is realllllly rich.

Newsflash: The biggest lies are the ones you tell yourself.

You talk about credibility, and you have NONE. Anyone who reads one of your 'burrying your head in the sand' posts and takes one look at your avatar/signature shrine can see you're nothing more than a delusional raving fanatic.

My other thread is a prime example. I asked a legit and valid question about people's feelings about Vitali being recognized as the ring champion and everyone was able to answer in a coherent and constructive manner except YOU.

You immediatly went on the defensive (as you always do) and that speaks VOLUMES about you and your inner insecurities.

I will continue to post as I see fit, and if you don't like me pointing out your biased and blinded fanaticism, you can put me on ignore and stick your head in the sand like Vdiary did.

Exposing you as the fraud you are is not "defensive", it's offensive against your objective. It's a service I'm providing to the new posters that haven't yet learned that your objective is not to debate the topic, but to get on the nerves of Klitschko fans and you will say or do anything to accomplish that goal including lie. I'm trying to spare them from trying to debate with you logically only to find that your objective is to get under their skin. This way, they get a red flag immediately that you have no credibility and will find out for themselves quicker. No matter what you say about me, they will always be questioning your credibility.

Your crying and whining couldn't make it more obvious that I'm raining on your parade. You're pathetically, and constantly trying to defend yourself from the proven fact you are a fraud and liar. It's too late, you've let too much of the truth about you out, you are exposed.

Your argument about me is that I'm a Klitschko fan, and you keep bringing up my avatar and sig. Big deal. No one cares about that but you. I'm a fan and that's why I have them there. It's no secret. If it offends you, ....GOOD!

Your other thread, and whatever you say about any topic for that matter, is irrelevant. You only use the bits and pieces of the truth that fit your agenda. Therefore, anyone responding to your posts must take that into consideration and that you are already a proven to liar with no credibility.

Actions speak louder than my avatar and sig, and your actions have already proven to the regulars on this site that you are a liar, a fraud, and your objective is not to debate the topic, but to get on the nerves of Klitschko fans and you will say or do anything to accomplish that goal. I will continue to make the newbies aware. :)

Well, in that case, the challenger would be considered unavailable and he can go ahead and fight whomever he wants.


yeah, but rahman could start crying again and try to stop it... he'd try to force vk to wait til he's ready.... i really believe thats the game him and king are playing and they have no intention of fighting on the 24th... if you had a title shot would you really rush it a month after your next fight?

By Scoop Malinowsky:

More Questions: The WBC is now under pressure to strip Vitali Klitschko of his WBC belt because he wants to defend against Calvin Brock in September before meeting the winner of the August showdown between Rahman-Barrett in December. Why are Rahman's people so eager to strip Vitali? They know Rock will automatically get the next WBC shot if he beats Barrett. Why can't they wait just a few months? Would they prefer to steal the WBC belt from Klitschko rather than actually have to get in a ring with him to try and take it the real way? And why would the WBC, if they strip Klitschko as they very likely will try to do, why would they forfeit the sanction fee of Klitschko-Brock? Is the reason because they feel obligated to cater to a promoter who fears the Klitschkos?

Why can't Rahman wait just a few months till December to fight Klitschko? It's not like he really deserves the shot anyway, look at his recent victories over subpar opposition.

The whole thing is beginning to smell like an all-out Don King assualt to freeze out the Klitschko from his heavyweight world.

Will Don King ever put himself in a position to match his fighters with either Klitschko with no options, no nothing? Would he ever put himself in the position to stand at a press conference after the Klitschkos have destroyed Brewster or Rahman or Byrd and stand there in the background like a secondary figure? What would he say then, Viva The Ukraine!??



Funny that you would say this as Wlad is also trying to use the courts to his advantage to do what he wants to do. Would you say that he has fought anyone worth mentioning in the last few fights (At least fights that he won) I guess Wlad going to court is also one of Don Kings Tricks too.

The reason that the rock has gone to the courts is because Klitchko has avoided him on three seperate occasions. what does he have to do to get the man in the ring? Point a gun at his head and have him marched off to the ring in the style of an old shotgun wedding? Rahman has been patient and waited on three seperate occasions. For some reason Klitchko doesnt want to fight him and if Rahman sits still and makes no noise he will never get Klitchko in the ring. Klitchko would come up with every excuse in the book and never fight him.

He (Don King) put himself in a position to allow one of the klitchkos to be at a press conference after his fighter lost. Remember Brewster made Wlad turn into a tomatoe can. If Brewster had lost that fight then Don King would have had to concede the belt and props to Wlad but he failed miserably. It was a good attempt but for whatever reason he just didnt cut it.