View Full Version : {MUST SEE} This is what's gonna happen in the Toney-Couture fight


Gorilla Dogs
07-12-2010, 11:13 AM
To anyone who thinks Toney is gonna run over the sport of MMA i show you these two videos. Boxers that only bring boxing dont do well in the sport of MMA. There is this myth among boxing fans is that ONE HIT to the chin and they're lights out. Thats not the case. People been listening to Floyd Mayweather and all his MMA bull **** talk. And what the hell has James Toney done in boxing of late? Nothing!! Now if the Klitschko brothers went into MMA i would be excited cuz they use to be kick boxers. And to all the haters of this thread .... SHOW ME A VIDEO OF A BOXER SUCCESSFULL IN MMA? AND WHEN I SAY SUCCESSFULL I MEAN TITLES??


Ray Mercer Vs Remy Bonjasky

What a joke, thats all i gotta say. Watch and see

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Royce Gracie vs Art Jimmerson ( BOXER )

Alright, this is sad to watch as a boxing fan. He had no chance. Toney will get made look silly against a fkn wrestler.

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res
07-12-2010, 01:16 PM
To anyone who thinks Toney is gonna run over the sport of MMA i show you these two videos. Boxers that only bring boxing dont do well in the sport of MMA. There is this myth among boxing fans is that ONE HIT to the chin and they're lights out. Thats not the case. People been listening to Floyd Mayweather and all his MMA bull **** talk. And what the hell has James Toney done in boxing of late? Nothing!! Now if the Klitschko brothers went into MMA i would be excited cuz they use to be kick boxers. And to all the haters of this thread .... SHOW ME A VIDEO OF A BOXER SUCCESSFULL IN MMA? AND WHEN I SAY SUCCESSFULL I MEAN TITLES??


Ray Mercer Vs Remy Bonjasky

What a joke, thats all i gotta say. Watch and see

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Royce Gracie vs Art Jimmerson ( BOXER )

Alright, this is sad to watch as a boxing fan. He had no chance. Toney will get made look silly against a fkn wrestler.

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Who the heck is Art Jimmerson?

I looked up his record, 30-18 (a bum)

and on top of that this was the first UFC, he didn't even know what was going to happen.



Mercer was last champ when? ah yes, 20 years ago, and yet he was able to do this.

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and K1 is not MMA, most UFC fighters wouldn't even last in a K1 ring.

Gorilla Dogs
07-12-2010, 01:36 PM
Who the heck is Art Jimmerson?

I looked up his record, 30-18 (a bum)

and on top of that this was the first UFC, he didn't even know what was going to happen.



Mercer was last champ when? ah yes, 20 years ago, and yet he was able to do this.

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and K1 is not MMA, most UFC fighters wouldn't even last in a K1 ring.

LOL the only reason he knocked him out is becuz they agreed it was going to be a boxing match in an mma ring becuz they wouldnt make it legal for these two guys to have a straight up boxing match. Where has Sylvia been since? Has he ever won a title? LMAO

D-MiZe
07-12-2010, 01:45 PM
You think Couture is going to stand up against someone like Toney?

:lol1:

As soon as Toney goes down, it's over.

Gorilla Dogs
07-12-2010, 01:54 PM
You think Couture is going to stand up against someone like Toney?

:lol1:

As soon as Toney goes down, it's over.

Yea man Couture knows what to do. He's gonna throw 2-3 leg kicks, Toney is gonna cry


Then wrestle his ass to the ground and



ITSSS AALLLL OVER!!!!!!!!!

Junito-Rulez
07-12-2010, 05:19 PM
Both examples are irrelevant, for several reasons:

1) Mercer got his ass kicked by 3 time K1GP winner Remy Bonjasky who's one of the best HW thai boxers of all times. The gap between Bonjasky and Couture in striking is like a boxing beginner and Roy Jones Jr. It's day and night. Couture's kicks are ****, he doesn't even know how to throw a proper low kick and can't pivot. Once he hits Toney with his sissy ass kicks, Toney will laugh at him.

2) Who the **** is Art Jimmerson? Remember that back in the days nobody knew **** about the ground game, i can guarantee that if Jimmerson had any kind of grappling training, it'd have been a different story. Remember when Kimo and his basic Jiujitsu fought Gracie??
Toney compared to those fools knows what he got himself into, he knows that he can't survive without Jiujitsu and wrestling and works with WORLD CLASS fighters and a world class team.( King Mo, Ibarra,etc..)

$BloodyNate$
07-12-2010, 05:40 PM
Sorry dude, it's going to be that easy.

The more I think about I feel like it's going to be exactly like the last 2 Liddell fights. Randy shoots a decent double leg but his bread & butter is putting you up against that cage and then putting you on your back. But in the last 2 Liddell fights Liddell found out how to beat him by getting on his bike and catching Randy coming in while he tries to close the distance to clinch. If Toney lands the same punches Liddell did, Randy's going to be out cold first shot.

The more I picture this in my head the more sure I am Toney's going to knock him out by catching him coming in. Dana is dumb, this is a bad fight for MMA. I want randy to win, but it's just a bad match up for him.

Left2theliver
07-12-2010, 06:06 PM
Sorry dude, it's going to be that easy.

The more I think about I feel like it's going to be exactly like the last 2 Liddell fights. Randy shoots a decent double leg but his bread & butter is putting you up against that cage and then putting you on your back. But in the last 2 Liddell fights Liddell found out how to beat him by getting on his bike and catching Randy coming in while he tries to close the distance to clinch. If Toney lands the same punches Liddell did, Randy's going to be out cold first shot.

The more I picture this in my head the more sure I am Toney's going to knock him out by catching him coming in. Dana is dumb, this is a bad fight for MMA. I want randy to win, but it's just a bad match up for him.

here's the difference though, Toney is a much better boxer than Liddell...but, Liddell is the superior kickboxer all around and has very good wrestling on top of that. Maybe if Toney had good wrestling then i'd definitely pick him in this, but he doesn't, he's a straight boxer who's still learning these skills...not enough time for that.

DR.ORGYY
07-12-2010, 06:14 PM
war toney!!!!

G A M E
07-13-2010, 05:22 AM
here's the difference though, Toney is a much better boxer than Liddell...but, Liddell is the superior kickboxer all around and has very good wrestling on top of that. Maybe if Toney had good wrestling then i'd definitely pick him in this, but he doesn't, he's a straight boxer who's still learning these skills...not enough time for that.

soo Chuck caught Randy with kicks? or punches?

Kakutogi-Gumi
07-13-2010, 09:46 AM
soo Chuck caught Randy with kicks? or punches?

Chuck kept the fight standing.

Plus Randy wasn't focused because he was in the middle of his first divorce.

koppted
07-13-2010, 10:24 AM
It all depends on how well Toney, is prepared to avoid a takedown, he just can't keep his boxing stance, esle he's toast

G A M E
07-13-2010, 06:56 PM
Chuck kept the fight standing.

Plus Randy wasn't focused because he was in the middle of his first divorce.

I like 'those ones'

lol, i only asked cos ive only seen HLs of that fight. If chuck hit him with his over committed punching technique, i think JT has a better chance than most think.

Move BRICKS
07-13-2010, 07:29 PM
how can you compare couture to bonjasky or gracie

noob post :gives:

res
07-14-2010, 08:59 PM
LOL the only reason he knocked him out is becuz they agreed it was going to be a boxing match in an mma ring becuz they wouldnt make it legal for these two guys to have a straight up boxing match. Where has Sylvia been since? Has he ever won a title? LMAO

Really? Did you watch that video?

I haven't seen too many leg kicks in a boxing match.

res
07-15-2010, 05:40 PM
here's the difference though, Toney is a much better boxer than Liddell...but, Liddell is the superior kickboxer all around and


Liddel would get murdered standing with Toney.

Anthony342
07-15-2010, 07:58 PM
Well James Warring won two MMA fights at World Combat Challenge before losing in the finals to Renzo Gracie, so boxers haven't been total failures at MMA. Plus yeah, boxers know what they're getting into and know they need to know ground fighting, so Toney will be better prepared than someone like Jimmerson in UFC 1. I still think Couture will win though.

Anthony342
07-18-2010, 12:01 AM
Yeah and that's why Toney could catch Couture. But none of those skills will help Toney once Couture has him on his back.

I wouldn't mind seeing Dana White "load his knickers" and all his plans go to ****e. If they did, it couldn't happen to a more deserving guy.

Anthony342
07-18-2010, 12:15 AM
To anyone who thinks Toney is gonna run over the sport of MMA i show you these two videos. Boxers that only bring boxing dont do well in the sport of MMA. There is this myth among boxing fans is that ONE HIT to the chin and they're lights out. Thats not the case. People been listening to Floyd Mayweather and all his MMA bull **** talk. And what the hell has James Toney done in boxing of late? Nothing!! Now if the Klitschko brothers went into MMA i would be excited cuz they use to be kick boxers. And to all the haters of this thread .... SHOW ME A VIDEO OF A BOXER SUCCESSFULL IN MMA? AND WHEN I SAY SUCCESSFULL I MEAN TITLES??


Ray Mercer Vs Remy Bonjasky

What a joke, thats all i gotta say. Watch and see

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Royce Gracie vs Art Jimmerson ( BOXER )

Alright, this is sad to watch as a boxing fan. He had no chance. Toney will get made look silly against a fkn wrestler.

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Yeah the Klitschko brothers used to be kickboxers. So did Chuck Lidell. He became a champion. I still agree with you though, I think Couture is going to win, not only by getting the fight to the ground, but also because Toney has often had problems with conditioning, even earlier in his career he would gas out after a few rounds in some fights. Just look at him against Dave Tiberi, Hasim Rahman or Samuel Peter, where he looked pretty bad.

BG_Knocc_Out
07-18-2010, 12:30 AM
Marcus Davis and KJ Noons are pretty successful in MMA and they only fought, and lost, to fighters in Boxing with negative records.