I think Holmes is very close to Ali as a fighter, but he lacked the charisma to become the idol Ali has become.

Ali is greater.

Holmes is great, underrated.....& a lot of it has to do with being under Ali's shadow.
Still, Ali is greater.

Holmes, however, would have given Ali an absolute nightmare of a time...though Ali would edge him.

Ali is greater.

Holmes is great, underrated.....& a lot of it has to do with being under Ali's shadow.
Still, Ali is greater.

Holmes, however, would have given Ali an absolute nightmare of a time...though Ali would edge him.

You took the words right out of my mouth. I completely agree.

prime ali would be much too fast for holmes, the ali he fought was extremely shot and half as fast as before

Muhammad. And that`s all.

prime ali would be much too fast for holmes, the ali he fought was extremely shot and half as fast as before



None of us would use the actual Ali-Hlomes fight, as a model for how a "dream fight" between the two would turn out.
Ali would be bothered by Holmes' own speed, his boxing ability, & of course - Holmes' jab.

3 words: QUALITY OF OPPOSITION. Ali's resume is a league above Holmes, although its not Larry's fault he dominated a weak era . . .

Holmes lacked the persona or charisma of an Ali, or Foreman, Frazier, Holyfield or Tyson. He's more like JM Marquez, as compared to Barrera, Morales or Pacman. They're all great fighters, but some are more popular to the fans than the others.

But popularity aside, Holmes could match Ali's greatness. He could box, did not run from any challenges and has defeated all the leading heavyweights in his time. :cool:

I think Larry Holmes is a very funny, wise guy.

He may not be educated, but he's no dummy.

In 1988....guess what he said ? (paraphrased)
"Mark my words....because I know plenty of guys like him....In three years time, Mike Tyson will be in jail. That's where I see him."
He was just about right.

Ali was greater.

Holmes lacked the persona or charisma of an Ali, or Foreman, Frazier, Holyfield or Tyson. He's more like JM Marquez, as compared to Barrera, Morales or Pacman. They're all great fighters, but some are more popular to the fans than the others.

But popularity aside, Holmes could match Ali's greatness. He could box, did not run from any challenges and has defeated all the leading heavyweights in his time. :cool:

Popularity aside, Holmes can't match Ali's resume. Level of opposition is decidedly in Ali's favor and that's what separates the two.

Nobody in boxing history matches Ali's resume

Nobody in boxing history matches Ali's resume


P4P?





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Nobody in boxing history matches Ali's resume

No heavyweight matches Ali's resume, but all-time p4p, there are a handful of fighters that do match, and even exceed, Ali's resume.

I think Holmes is very close to Ali as a fighter, but he lacked the charisma to become the idol Ali has become.


Prime Ali is easily better than any other heavyweight. I rank Holmes #4 all time when it comes to heavyweights.

ali, no doubt, who can test him

Ali of course!

holmes was a good fighter who was around in a weak division, in a weak era. ali was the best heavyweight in any era.