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-Swizzy-
07-08-2010, 03:14 PM
Frank Mir vs. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira II headlines UFC 119 in Indianapolis
by MMAjunkie.com Staff on Jul 08, 2010 at 2:10 pm ET
A rematch between heavyweights Frank Mir (13-5 MMA, 11-5 UFC) and Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (32-6-1 MMA, 3-2 UFC) headlines September's UFC 119 event.

UFC president Dana White today confirmed the fight with MMAFighting.com, and MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) has confirmed the booking with a source close to one of the fighters.

An official announcement of the fight and event is expected as soon as this week.

UFC 119 takes place Sept. 25 at Conseco Fieldhouse in Indianapolis.

Nogueira vs. Mir II, of course, wasn't the first choice for the UFC 119 headliner. As MMAjunkie.com first reported, UFC officials planned to have UFC 116's main-event winner (champ Brock Lesnar and interim champ Shane Carwin) fight top contender Cain Velasquez at UFC 119. However, Lesnar, who earned a second-round submission win, and his wife are expecting the birth of a child in the next few weeks. Additionally, the booking would have required an abbreviated fight camp for the now-undisputed champ, who returned from a yearlong layoff (diverticulitis) for the fight.

Mir, of course, won the first meeting with Nogueira with an impressive second-round knockout at UFC 92 in December 2008. Only after the fight did we learn that Nogueira was slowed by staph-infection recovery and a knee injury. Still, Nogueira praised his opponent's performance and said he was surprised by Mir's noticeably improved striking skills.

Mir is just 1-2 since that big win, which marked Nogueira's first stoppage loss, with knockout losses to Lesnar and Carwin and a submission win over Cheick Kongo. The Carwin loss, which came at UFC 111 in March with an interim title on the line, marks his most recent outing.

Nogueira, meanwhile, also is coming off a loss. In February, he was stunned by a first-round knockout at the hands of Velasquez. The former PRIDE star set up the No. 1 contender's bout after earning a decision victory over Randy Couture this past August.

rainmaker89
07-08-2010, 03:32 PM
what a stupid matchup..no need for the rematch, i was hoping for a Noguiera vs CroCop rematch instead..

-Swizzy-
07-08-2010, 03:38 PM
what a stupid matchup..no need for the rematch, i was hoping for a Noguiera vs CroCop rematch instead..

well I don't mind the rematch. its the fact that its a main event headliner that bothers me. this seems more like a co-main event type fight.

also, I think this fight is necessary cuz Nog wasn't 100% in his last fight. I think Nog will win this rematch.

$BloodyNate$
07-08-2010, 03:46 PM
I like it. Especially since Rampage I think I heard is suppose to be a co-main event. Hopefully he fights Machida since the UFC wants to fn waste a fight with Bader vs Lil Nog. I was hoping for Nog vs Rampage.

Big Nog vs Mir 2
Rampage vs Machida
Guillard vs Stephens is an INSANE card!

Clegg
07-08-2010, 07:33 PM
I think this is a bad main event. Two guys who just got destroyed facing off, and to make things worse they've already fought. 'Mir already beat Nog, but this time it'll be the same because Nog is even more shot!'

Mike Russow is on a winning streak and showed a lot of guts and heart to win his last fight. Why not reward him by putting him in with one of them?

Something like Nog-Russow and Mir-CroCop would interest me. Not saying those are great fights or that everything has the same taste as me, but it'd be a lot better than Mir-Nog II IMO.

K-Yo
07-09-2010, 05:21 PM
A Nogueira double loss could be a strong possibility.

Honestly what is the point in this main event....smh

Gorilla Dogs
07-09-2010, 08:18 PM
MMA cards are lookin more like boxin cards now


Who wants to see this fight?


Lets give Cro Cop some better challenges, he's picked his game up latley

blaze778
07-09-2010, 08:23 PM
That's a good rematch, but I hope they stack up the undercard. Mir vs. Nogueira wasn't even a headliner when they first fought (Griffins vs. Evans was that night), and that was when they were both coming off wins and fighting for the interim belt.

Now they are both coming off losses where they both got knocked the f*ck out in the first round.

phallus
07-10-2010, 03:46 PM
i hate this fight, it seems to me like it's just to give mir another easy win to put him in line for another title shot, so lesnar can destroy him again

Anthony342
07-10-2010, 09:04 PM
But even if Mir wins again (which I think he will too), shouldn't he have to get at least one more win after that to get another shot at the title, since he lost his last title shot and lost his last match for the interim belt?

I always thought if Mir hadn't gotten into that motorcycle accident that he would've defended the heavyweight title at least 3-5 times before losing it, how about you guys?

Clegg
07-10-2010, 09:17 PM
But even if Mir wins again (which I think he will too), shouldn't he have to get at least one more win after that to get another shot at the title, since he lost his last title shot and lost his last match for the interim belt?

I always thought if Mir hadn't gotten into that motorcycle accident that he would've defended the heavyweight title at least 3-5 times before losing it, how about you guys?

Maybe, but I think that's because the UFC HW division wasn't as good back then. Sylvia, Arlovski and Couture were probably the best on offer at the time, the current crop are a tougher challenge for Mir.

Anthony342
07-10-2010, 10:42 PM
And a lot bigger and stronger. He was manhandled by both Lesnar and Carwin. Or manhandled by Lesnar and beaten down by Carwin. Maybe he's not strong enough to be a heavyweight anymore, maybe he should be a light heavy. I don't know if he'd do that though, I remember Joe Rogan going on about how Mir was on some new strength training program to gain 20 pounds of muscle, so who knows if he'd want to lost all the weight. 2 things I think he needs to learn to do which he hasn't done much in his career at this point is to sprawl more and avoid getting taken down a lot more often and maybe learn to throw some kicks, at least leg kicks to slow down an opponent and make it harder for these big heavyweights to shoot in on him or else he'll keep getting thrown around like a rag doll.

$BloodyNate$
07-10-2010, 10:58 PM
I really hope this doesn't happen but my brain thinks Mir's going to pull it off again. Big Nog had the greatest chin in MMA so he didn't have to be really defensive with his striking because he wouldn't get KO'd, but now that his chin has faded that not to stellar defense is what's hurting him.

I hope Big Nog can pull it out but sadly I just don't see it.

blaze778
07-10-2010, 10:59 PM
And a lot bigger and stronger. He was manhandled by both Lesnar and Carwin. Or manhandled by Lesnar and beaten down by Carwin. Maybe he's not strong enough to be a heavyweight anymore, maybe he should be a light heavy. I don't know if he'd do that though, I remember Joe Rogan going on about how Mir was on some new strength training program to gain 20 pounds of muscle, so who knows if he'd want to lost all the weight. 2 things I think he needs to learn to do which he hasn't done much in his career at this point is to sprawl more and avoid getting taken down a lot more often and maybe learn to throw some kicks, at least leg kicks to slow down an opponent and make it harder for these big heavyweights to shoot in on him or else he'll keep getting thrown around like a rag doll.

Mir actually mentioned that he was considering going down to 205, but with some kind of catchweight fight at 225 first or something like that. He weighed about 260 for both the Kongo and Carwin fights and Carwin still manhandled him. Like you said, I think Mir needs to work on his takedown defense for sure. I doubt he can make 215, let alone 205. Mir is a pretty big guy.

Mir weighed 245 for the second Brock fight. He made the excuse that he was too light for that fight, but he went up 20 pounds and still got manhandled by Carwin. Mir is a natural HW, just not as big as Carwin or Brock. Mir should just work on not being taken down or layed on against the fence. Easier said than done, but it would still be easier than Mir draining 50+ lbs to make weight.