View Full Version : 30 Minutes A Day On My Speed Bag


Mannie Phresh
07-06-2010, 03:28 AM
Ive benn consistant on the speed bag eveyday for the last month. today though i did 2 hours straight and my arms feel like noodles. how often do you guys hit the speed bag?

Spartacus Sully
07-06-2010, 03:40 AM
Ive benn consistant on the speed bag eveyday for the last month. today though i did 2 hours straight and my arms feel like noodles. how often do you guys hit the speed bag?

no i dont have a speed bag.

do you use it to enhance the sharpness of your back hand for deflecting punches?

or do you do all kinds of stuff on it throw in some 360's, elbows, headbutts, and never really use it for what it was made for?

and if you do use it to enhance the sharpness of your back hand for deflecting, have you noticed a difference since you started regularly using the speed bag?

im thinking about maybe getting one.

Mannie Phresh
07-06-2010, 03:43 AM
no i dont have a speed bag.

do you use it to enhance the sharpness of your back hand for deflecting punches?

or do you do all kinds of stuff on it throw in some 360's, elbows, headbutts, and never really use it for what it was made for?

and if you do use it to enhance the sharpness of your back hand for deflecting, have you noticed a difference since you started regularly using the speed bag?

im thinking about maybe getting one.

it took me a long time to get the back hand timing down but now thats practically all i do. im not the fastest but i maintain a good speed and switch up the rhythm and switch to the regular style pretty good.

Spartacus Sully
07-06-2010, 03:48 AM
it took me a long time to get the back hand timing down but now thats practically all i do. im not the fastest but i maintain a good speed and switch up the rhythm and switch to the regular style pretty good.

do you know why there are small bags and big bags? like are the bigger bags easier? or is it just a matter of size to match the boxers size?

Mannie Phresh
07-06-2010, 03:50 AM
smalller the bag the more accurate you have to be. ill have to check what size mine is. its the shane mosley everlast speedbag. bought it at big5.

Spartacus Sully
07-06-2010, 04:04 AM
smalller the bag the more accurate you have to be. ill have to check what size mine is. its the shane mosley everlast speedbag. bought it at big5.

I allways see the older guys (1920 ish films) with the huge speed bags, so maybe theres something about them that make em better ill probly be getting my self a nice 10" x 12" speed bag.

http://store.titleboxing.com/titlespeedbags1.html

Mannie Phresh
07-06-2010, 04:07 AM
I allways see the older guys (1920 ish films) with the huge speed bags, so maybe theres something about them that make em better ill probly be getting my self a nice 10" x 12" speed bag.

http://store.titleboxing.com/titlespeedbags1.html

yeah actually watching old sugar ray robinson clips is what helped me get my back hand down. he was awesome at it

Squirrel
07-06-2010, 04:32 AM
2 hours straight on the speed bag.

Right.

Mannie Phresh
07-06-2010, 04:35 AM
2 hours straight on the speed bag.

Right.

breaks with water but thats it. 2 hours dedicated on the speed bag. i never said i didnt take breaks or even break rhythm thats just the longest ive ever dedicated to the speed bag alone.

Squirrel
07-06-2010, 05:11 AM
You said 2 hours straight, that means no breaks ;)

Why did you spend so long on it?

Mannie Phresh
07-06-2010, 05:13 AM
You said 2 hours straight, that means no breaks ;)

Why did you spend so long on it?

i used to rent a house but the landlord foreclosed so i moved into an apartment so my speedbag heavybag combo stand is now in my living room. i hit it everyday and listen to music when i get back from the gym. its my moment of zen for the day.

Equilibrium
07-06-2010, 07:06 AM
Speed bag isn't that good to be honest. It's mostly for rhytm and to condition your shoulders and arms.

If you have place i would suggest getting a double end bag, it's one of the best tool you can get after a heavy bag.

Trick
07-06-2010, 12:24 PM
[QUOTE=Equilibrium;8765985]Speed bag isn't that good to be honest. It's mostly for rhytm and to condition your shoulders and arms.
QUOTE]

And how is this not good? Agree with the double-bag statement though, probably the thing people overlook the most.

oaklandstephen
07-06-2010, 04:42 PM
Ive benn consistant on the speed bag eveyday for the last month. today though i did 2 hours straight and my arms feel like noodles. how often do you guys hit the speed bag?

3 3 min rounds lol. i got about 45 other exercises i gotta do b4 and after that though.

Sam Donald
07-06-2010, 05:04 PM
Why woukd you go 2 hours straight on the speedball?

Many other exercises give you much more benefit

One more round
07-06-2010, 11:29 PM
I don't even use a speedball, never have either. Floor to ceiling ball (also known as double end bag) is much more effective and better.

In my opinion, the double end bag is probably as important as the heavy bag.

Trick
07-07-2010, 12:43 AM
I like the speed bag when I'm already tired, bit of an easy couple rounds, but it does train your timing if you're really going hard at it. The double bag is probably my favourite, but you don't really have to be PERFECT, whereas if you're going fast on the speedbag you pretty much do, and if your shoulders are already burning it makes it pretty tough. Out of all the "main" things we do it perhaps the least useful, but that doesn't make it useless. The bottom line is the vast majority of great fighters have taken the time to get good on the speedbag- there's obviously a reason why.

To answer the OP: I usually do 3x3 or perhaps 4x3 near the end of my workout, and often 1 or 2ish more rounds at the very end as a bit of a cooldown.

EDIT: I should add that only really applies if you're using a smaller bag. If you're using a big bag you might need the timing still, but the accuracy part is a lot easier.

Spartacus Sully
07-07-2010, 01:18 AM
on the fast, light bag-which is about the height of an opponents head-one can sharpen his speed and timing for "head-hunting"; and one also can practice the back-hand, warding-off stroke until it becomes automatic

THE GLANCE-OFF is even more important than the parry in causing deflection. The guarding positions of your hands and arms, and the hunched left shoulder in your normal punching stance were designed to give the upper portion of your body a wedgelike effect. That wedging of hands, arms, shoulder and forehead should enable you to (1) keep inside an opponent's attack as you step in to lead or to counter, and (2) cause most blows to glance off to the sides or up into the air.

The glance-off is more dependable than the parry because there's more solidity, if necessary, in the glance-off than in the parry. The reserve solidity is there only in case your glance-off has to be turned into a block. However, the less solid the glance-off, the less your own balance is disturbed. Your glance-off movements are not the solid, chopping movements of hand or arm blocks; they are lightning, knifing or sliding movements. They interfere little with your balance, but they spin your opponent slightly out of punching position.

If you watch a professional fighter punch the light bag, you'll note that more than half his bag-work comprises a rhythmic tattoo achieved like this: straight left - backhand left - straight right - backhand right -straight left - etc. You may ask, "Why this backhand striking, when the backhand blow is illegal in boxing?"

The answer to that is: He's sharpening his backhand for glance-offs and blocking. If you get a chance to use the light bag, spend half your time on that tattoo. A power-backhand for glancing and blocking is almost as useful for a fighter as is a good backhand for a tennis player.

http://www.freecirclefighting.com/jdbook.pdf