View Full Version : I'm Convinced Brock Would Beat Fedor...


photomane
07-04-2010, 12:24 PM
After seeing Brock absorb punches from Carwin-the hardest hitter in MMA, I'm convinced Brock would beat Fedor by taken him down, using his size and either choking or ground and pounding him...

ƒallenloki
07-04-2010, 12:45 PM
I'm convinced you're an idiot.

photomane
07-04-2010, 12:59 PM
I'm convinced you're an idiot.

I'm sorry to say but Fedor would not have been able to take the beating Brock took, plain and simple. I don't think Fedor could beat REEM, led alone BROCK. Fedor is yesterday news.

ƒallenloki
07-04-2010, 01:06 PM
I'm sorry to say but Fedor would not have been able to take the beating Brock took, plain and simple. I don't think Fedor could beat REEM, led alone BROCK. Fedor is yesterday news.

Have you ever seen Fedor fight?

you don't even know what you're talking about

Gorilla Dogs
07-04-2010, 01:12 PM
Carwin was a bigger threat than fedor.



Fedor would get his ass beat by both guys.

Uturn
07-04-2010, 01:17 PM
I think it's the other way round. Last night confirmed Fedor could easily hurt Brock and would have stopped him last night had he been in the same situation.

$Natedatpkid$
07-04-2010, 01:21 PM
I think Fedor would have murked Brock in the 1st round of that fight and done em in.

Gorilla Dogs
07-04-2010, 01:23 PM
I think it's the other way round. Last night confirmed Fedor could easily hurt Brock and would have stopped him last night had he been in the same situation.

Carwin is a WAY bigger puncher than Fedor.



Dont get it twisted




There is a reason why Fedor didnt wanna sign wit UFC




his name is .......


http://wwe-wallpapers.net/data/media/2/brock_lesnar_wallpaper.jpg

ƒallenloki
07-04-2010, 01:27 PM
Carwin is a WAY bigger puncher than Fedor.



Dont get it twisted




There is a reason why Fedor didnt wanna sign wit UFC




his name is .......


http://wwe-wallpapers.net/data/media/2/brock_lesnar_wallpaper.jpg

:rofl:

That's a joke right?

ƒallenloki
07-04-2010, 01:27 PM
If you believe that, you're just a fool.

Gorilla Dogs
07-04-2010, 01:31 PM
:rofl:

That's a joke right?

Who did Fedor JUST lose to?



cant remember his name



He got KOd by Junior Dos Santos



And Lesnar beats the **** of an UNDEFEATED KO artist





Fk the haters ........ haters GOIN HATE

sigrab
07-04-2010, 01:33 PM
I'm sorry to say but Fedor would not have been able to take the beating Brock took, plain and simple. I don't think Fedor could beat REEM, led alone BROCK. Fedor is yesterday news.

I vaguely remember Rogers hitting Fedor with some pretty heavy shots when he was down.

A couple shots actually bounced Fedor's head off the canvas.

He survived that didn't he?

photomane
07-04-2010, 01:39 PM
Have you ever seen Fedor fight?

you don't even know what you're talking about

I've been a fan of MMA since the early days of gracie and tank. Yes I seen every Fedor fight. Yes is a good overall fighter. So is Lensar with size. Fedor has the built of an avergae stocky man. Lesnar the built of 21st century technology, theres a difference.

photomane
07-04-2010, 01:42 PM
I vaguely remember Rogers hitting Fedor with some pretty heavy shots when he was down.

A couple shots actually bounced Fedor's head off the canvas.

He survived that didn't he?

Rogers is a joke to compared to Carwin. Carwin is on a whole other level. Carwin is the hardest hitter in MMA. His hands are like cinder blocks. Rogers hits like rubber tires... Brock would just take down Rogers and ground and pound. Same with Fedor.

ƒallenloki
07-04-2010, 01:44 PM
I've been a fan of MMA since the early days of gracie and tank. Yes I seen every Fedor fight. Yes is a good overall fighter. So is Lensar with size. Fedor has the built of an avergae stocky man. Lesnar the built of 21st century technology, theres a difference.

Don't lie to me. You don't know ****.

If this were true, you'd know better. Not saying that Fedor would win, but you're making it seem like Lesnar would be fighting some scrub.

photomane
07-04-2010, 01:46 PM
Don't lie to me. You don't know ****.

If this were true, you'd know better. Not saying that Fedor would win, but you're making it seem like Lesnar would be fighting some scrub.

Lesnar would take the Russian down and TKO Fedor with 30 hammer fists...

sigrab
07-04-2010, 01:47 PM
Rogers is a joke to compared to Carwin. Carwin is on a whole other level. Carwin is the hardest hitter in MMA. His hands are like cinder blocks. Rogers hits like rubber tires... Brock would just take down Rogers and ground and pound. Same with Fedor.

Lemme repeat.

Fedor's head bounced off the canvas a couple of times.

It means he got hit pretty hard, hard enough that his face looked like crap after he survived the first round.

Carwin hits hard there's no disputing that.

But not all of his punches hit Brock flush.

Brock covered up pretty well.

ƒallenloki
07-04-2010, 01:57 PM
Who did Fedor JUST lose to?
cant remember his name
He got KOd by Junior Dos Santos
And Lesnar beats the **** of an UNDEFEATED KO artist

Fk the haters ........ haters GOIN HATE

His name is Fabricio Werdum and he is one of the two best HW Jiu Jitsu guys ever. Yes, he got KO'd by Junior Dos Santos when he was on the verge of a title shot and was unjustly cut. The dude did the UFC a favor by taking the fight on short notice. Althought I'm pretty sure none of you schmucks know that. But that's what you get when you sign the UFC's one sided contracts.

Yes, Lesnar got a big win and props to him for pulling it out... but lets not get ahead of ourselves. Carwin is/was still a raw prospect. The guy got subbed with an arm triangle choke that a blind man could see coming for ****s sake. Lesnar is lucky he didn't get stopped, the finish was literally 1 or 2 punches away.

Fedor's experience, Judo, BJJ, boxing, and speed is on another level. There is no debate there, period. His fight IQ and instincts are the best we've ever seen in MMA. He beats both Brock and Shane. I mean, really. You guys think that power + size = unbeatable? By that logic, Fedor SHOULD have lost more than half his fights.

Anyways, I feel I'm wasting my breath on you two donks who can barely speak English

The bottom line is this, if you want to sum up Fedor's entire career on the loss, I feel really bad for you. You guys probably lap up everything that comes out of Dana White's mouth. Give yourselves a history lesson in the sport.

Aut_72
07-04-2010, 01:58 PM
Who did Fedor JUST lose to?


cant remember his name


He got KOd by Junior Dos Santos


And Lesnar beats the **** of an UNDEFEATED KO artist


Fk the haters ........ haters GOIN HATE

Lesnar just lost to a guy that lost to Brandon Vera*

A guy who couldn't beat a Shot, drained old Randy Couture...

Gorilla Dogs
07-04-2010, 02:00 PM
Lesnar just lost to a guy that lost to Brandon Vera*

A guy who couldn't beat a Shot, drained old Randy Couture...

um ......... ?





Brock just won his fight BABY





WOOOOOOOOOO

Water
07-04-2010, 03:03 PM
After seeing Brock struggled to beat Carwin who was battering Brock 1st round. Fedor would absolutely flaten Brock and wipe the floor with him any day.

K-Yo
07-04-2010, 05:19 PM
The same Fedor who got beat after 30 secs last week by a UFC reject
The same Fedor who got G n P'd by Brett "Hype Job" Rogers
The same Fedor who's biggest wins are against Cro Cop and Noguiera?

Carwin would destroy Fedor anyday of the week and Brock would blow Fedor out of the water, after 6 fights in MMA Brock arguably has bigger wins on his resume then Fedor. Fedor fans do make me laugh. JDS, Velasquez & Mir could all give Fedor a run for his money but that is the reason that we will never see Fedor because he knew the division was too deep for him.

dmocchi
07-04-2010, 06:25 PM
The same Fedor who got beat after 30 secs last week by a UFC reject
The same Fedor who got G n P'd by Brett "Hype Job" Rogers
The same Fedor who's biggest wins are against Cro Cop and Noguiera?

Carwin would destroy Fedor anyday of the week and Brock would blow Fedor out of the water, after 6 fights in MMA Brock arguably has bigger wins on his resume then Fedor. Fedor fans do make me laugh. JDS, Velasquez & Mir could all give Fedor a run for his money but that is the reason that we will never see Fedor because he knew the division was too deep for him.


The same Fedor whom destroyed Heath Herring while Lesnar struggled.

ƒallenloki
07-04-2010, 06:29 PM
The same Fedor who got beat after 30 secs last week by a UFC reject
The same Fedor who got G n P'd by Brett "Hype Job" Rogers
The same Fedor who's biggest wins are against Cro Cop and Noguiera?

Carwin would destroy Fedor anyday of the week and Brock would blow Fedor out of the water, after 6 fights in MMA Brock arguably has bigger wins on his resume then Fedor. Fedor fans do make me laugh. JDS, Velasquez & Mir could all give Fedor a run for his money but that is the reason that we will never see Fedor because he knew the division was too deep for him.

Comedy, right here.

Nick Fury
07-04-2010, 06:36 PM
Fedor is God, he will destroy Lesnar.

K-Yo
07-04-2010, 07:47 PM
Brock fought Heath Herring in his 3rd MMA fight, and struggled you say?

Anyone who thinks Fedor is the number 1 HW in the world is pretty much delusional, he's not even the best HW in Strikeforce, smh.

Anthony342
07-04-2010, 07:56 PM
Carwin is a WAY bigger puncher than Fedor.



Dont get it twisted




There is a reason why Fedor didnt wanna sign wit UFC




his name is .......


http://wwe-wallpapers.net/data/media/2/brock_lesnar_wallpaper.jpg

Yeah his name is Dana "The Douchebag" White. THAT's why Fedor didn't sign with the UFC.

Stab Judah
07-04-2010, 08:04 PM
Mir gives every heavyweight a run for their money but lets not forget that he DID beat Brock. Fedor has been to smart to fall into those kinds of locks up until his last fight.

Brock's just a dumb bull every time he's been in any kind of trouble he crawls into a ball and prays.

If Shane has more stamina he would have won hands down.

dmocchi
07-05-2010, 02:08 AM
Brock fought Heath Herring in his 3rd MMA fight, and struggled you say?

Anyone who thinks Fedor is the number 1 HW in the world is pretty much delusional, he's not even the best HW in Strikeforce, smh.


Taking an opponent down and sitting on him is not my idea of "not struggling". Doesnt matter what fight it was, we're not here to make excuses for fighters. Fedor mauled him (Herring). If you cant accept this then you cannot continue to make a coherent and logical discussion
On the other hand styles make fights. Lesnar or Carwin will give anyone a tough fight due to their size. Just look at Bob Sapp early in his career.
BTW the topic isnt wether Fedor is 1....... its wether brock is.......He isnt.....

Spartacus Sully
07-05-2010, 02:18 AM
After seeing Brock absorb punches from Carwin-the hardest hitter in MMA, I'm convinced Brock would beat Fedor by taken him down, using his size and either choking or ground and pounding him...

carwin is a more technical puncher though he may hit harder he never throws those big bombs that really catch you, atleast thats how it appears in the lesnar fight. all carwin did was just push brocks head around never gathering much speed just pushing force. fedor throws these wound up punches with 1 hit ko power that carwin being more technical just dosnt throw and probly never praticed. while carwin may have a better over all chance against brock then fedor being hes a bigger guy, fedor definitely has a better chance of k.o. ing brock then just about any one in mma.

TheAxe Murderer
07-05-2010, 03:20 AM
Even though Werdum caught him, Fedor hits when you least expect it. By the time you realize it you'd be hard on the canvas.
I'm pretty sure Fedor can handle Brock's fists but I still see Brock getting submitted if they ever do fight. And unlike Carwin, Fedor actually has a gas tank.

Blair_Wells#32
07-05-2010, 11:09 AM
how does Fedor Submit with Zero Room To Move?
brock showed he's smart enough to give Submission specialist Minimal Room To Move.

F l i c k e r
07-06-2010, 03:58 AM
Yup, I agree with the TS except for the scared to fight in the UFC thing. UFC locks up fighters, tells them what to do and what not to do. That's why Fedor chose to not fight in the UFC. Fedor didn't need to go to UFC like other fighters do. I do agree with Brock beating Fedor though. I think he is simply too big, too strong and too athletic. This is a sport where if you have a distinct size and strength advantage and you can wrestle. Your chances of winning are very very high.

I don't think Fedor could do what Carwin did to Brock in the 1st round. I don't think they punch with equal power,Carwin > Fedor in power. So I don't think Brock will be put in the same situation that Carwin had him in, if Fedor were to fight him. IF Fedor was in the same position as Carwin was in the 1st round, then I believe he would finish the fight. However, I don't think he can do that to him(Brock).

When Brock panics he goes to his second nature, wrestling. I don't believe Fedor will stop Brock's take down attemps at all, maybe the 1st shot but the follow up clinch, not at all. He will get lifted up and dropped like Couture did. Then we will have to see if Fedor can get back up to his feet against a person with the size and strength of Brock. Which isn't that easy to do.

The only comparison on Fedor's resume to Brock is Randleman and even then Randleman is smaller than Brock, even smaller than Fedor. And that fight(Fedor-Kevin), is the only fight where you see Fedor get man handled grappling. So, if Randleman could man handle him, I don't doubt that Brock can too.

The only area I see Brock legitimately having issues with. (fedor-brock won't be a stand up war). Is the submission game. Fedor doesn't exactly have to get up, he can work from his back like Mir did. But he would have to go for the legs. Mir isn't a slouch with the bjj game, he is extremely good actual(whether you like him or not) and even he said Brock's upper body is too big to get a hold of, so he went for the legs. Fedor would have to go for the legs as well being even smaller than Mir, upper body lock is slim to none chance. Seeing how Brock was able to nullify Mir completely the 2nd fight, I don't think he will all of a sudden not realize Fedor has a submission game and get owned with the leg lock a 2nd time. He'd be a fool and a fraud to get done like that again.

So, as a result I think Brock would win. Possible tko, like how Randy got done. Submission? Maybe but I doubt it. Decision more possible than a tko. Either way, I think Brock wins. Too big, too strong, too athletic. #1 heavyweight in the world right now.

monaroCountry
07-06-2010, 05:35 AM
how does Fedor Submit with Zero Room To Move?
brock showed he's smart enough to give Submission specialist Minimal Room To Move.

Its dangerous for someone with no boxing and kickboxing skills like Brock to go up close and personal to someone like Fedor. Get close enough and Brock will get his head knocked off his shoulders.

I think he is simply too big, too strong and too athletic. This is a sport where if you have a distinct size and strength advantage and you can wrestle. Your chances of winning are very very high.

Randy and easpecially Herring were able to survive and last Brock. Herring on his fight with Fedor got his face smashed in inside one round. Fedor actually rag dolled Herring, something Brock couldnt do.

When Brock panics he goes to his second nature, wrestling. I don't believe Fedor will stop Brock's take down attemps at all, maybe the 1st shot but the follow up clinch, not at all

Brocks second nature is to run, hide and do the turtle. Fedor should easily counter Brocks take down attempts, either that or simply knee Brocks head.

The only comparison on Fedor's resume to Brock is Randleman and even then Randleman is smaller than Brock, even smaller than Fedor. And that fight(Fedor-Kevin), is the only fight where you see Fedor get man handled grappling. So, if Randleman could man handle him, I don't doubt that Brock can too.


Randleman and especially Matt Lindland are far better wrestlers than Brock Lesnar, and we all know how devastatingly that ended.

The only area I see Brock legitimately having issues with. (fedor-brock won't be a stand up war). Is the submission game. Fedor doesn't exactly have to get up, he can work from his back like Mir did. But he would have to go for the legs. Mir isn't a slouch with the bjj game, he is extremely good actual(whether you like him or not) and even he said Brock's upper body is too big to get a hold of, so he went for the legs. Fedor would have to go for the legs as well being even smaller than Mir, upper body lock is slim to none chance.

Thats because Mir isnt a very good grappler, hell the guy lost in grappling against Roy Nelson. If Fedor can armbar HMC then he should be able to do something with the far smaller Brock.

The same Fedor who got beat after 30 secs last week by a UFC reject
The same Fedor who got G n P'd by Brett "Hype Job" Rogers
The same Fedor who's biggest wins are against Cro Cop and Noguiera?

Carwin would destroy Fedor anyday of the week and Brock would blow Fedor out of the water, after 6 fights in MMA Brock arguably has bigger wins on his resume then Fedor. Fedor fans do make me laugh. JDS, Velasquez & Mir could all give Fedor a run for his money but that is the reason that we will never see Fedor because he knew the division was too deep for him.

Same Brock who got submitted by an inferior BJJ fighter in Mir (as compared with the best BJJ fighter in Werdum)?

The same Brock who became a punching bag from the Shane "Hype Job" Carwin (Rogers before Fedor had a very similar unbeaten record and Ko record as Carwin).

The same Brock whos biggest win is against a LHW 50yo Randy and a the "please dont hit me" Mir?

Carwin, Brock, JDS, and Cain and all these hype jobs havent even faced or trainined against any top level K1 figher. Their best fighter in Brock ran away like a little girl and hid after getting hit, their second best fighter couldnt even finish a hapless girl and gassed out in the first fricken round.

monaroCountry
07-06-2010, 05:46 AM
Rogers is a joke to compared to Carwin. Carwin is on a whole other level. Carwin is the hardest hitter in MMA. His hands are like cinder blocks. Rogers hits like rubber tires... Brock would just take down Rogers and ground and pound. Same with Fedor.


Again thats just what the UFC whats people to think, they use that whole whose hand is bigger whose hand looks like a sledgehammer garbage. If you look at the actual record though, its actually Brett Rogers that is the bigger hitter. If Shane can frighten Brock with his punches, imagine what Brett Rogers can do. I think Brett would actually have a very good chance of winning against the punch shy Brock Lesnar.

Brett Rogers prior to Fedor - June 6 2009
Win: 10–0
KO (Punches): 6
TKO (Knees/Punches): 3
Submission: 1

Shane Carwin at the same time - March 7, 2009
Win: 11–0
KO (Punches): 3
TKO (Knees/Punches): 3
Submission: 5

MOTHER DUCKER
07-06-2010, 06:32 AM
Brock has also had only 6 fights can u imagine the beating he puts on Fedor with a bit more exp?

monaroCountry
07-06-2010, 06:49 AM
Brock has also had only 6 fights can u imagine the beating he puts on Fedor with a bit more exp?

By the time he learns how to do a kimura he would be as old as Randy........by that time hes main concern wont be about Fedor but about where he left his walking stick.

Blair_Wells#32
07-06-2010, 03:41 PM
shanes a hype job??? i thought he was the guy to beat brock?

Pelencho
07-08-2010, 12:52 AM
there are 2 people in this debate. fedor nuthuggers who will never believe anyone could beat him no matter what. then there are the rest of us who deal with reality. at this point brock is better