View Full Version : If that was any other person than Brock


Sumthang bit me
07-04-2010, 03:41 AM
the ref would have stopped it when he was taking all those punches. He got a huge benefit from is name in that fight, and to his credit came back to win. I was rooting for him, but I felt he caught a lucky break because of his stature and name.

Another thing, I don't even understand why he was trying to stand up with that dude. Thats not even his strength and I kept thinking, "take this ****er to the ground and its over".

Soon as he did that, he won. I'm guessing he was trying to make the fight more exciting, but I just couldn't stand to see him try to go toe to toe.

It was also pretty despicable to see him keep tapping his chin after the fight as if its made of iron. He got dropped from one punch and looked pretty stupid doing what he did.


Good night of fights though, I enjoyed it.

CiganoBoxer
07-04-2010, 03:55 AM
the ref would have stopped it when he was taking all those punches. He got a huge benefit from is name in that fight, and to his credit came back to win. I was rooting for him, but I felt he caught a lucky break because of his stature and name.

Another thing, I don't even understand why he was trying to stand up with that dude. Thats not even his strength and I kept thinking, "take this ****er to the ground and its over".

Soon as he did that, he won. I'm guessing he was trying to make the fight more exciting, but I just couldn't stand to see him try to go toe to toe.

It was also pretty despicable to see him keep tapping his chin after the fight as if its made of iron. He got dropped from one punch and looked pretty stupid doing what he did.


Good night of fights though, I enjoyed it.

Didn't you notice?? he was trying to take him down but Carwin avoided his attempts in that first round....it was only when carwin was tired in the 2nd round that Brock got the take down !
You gotta give Brock his due....he weathered the storm and come back and showed great heart to win....thats the sign of a true champion !
But it would of been a very different story is Carwins Gas tank would of been bigger !
But lets be fair....Brock dont look as invincible as he did before....infact he looks very beatable :boxing:

Virgil Caine
07-04-2010, 03:56 AM
the ref would have stopped it when he was taking all those punches. He got a huge benefit from is name in that fight, and to his credit came back to win. I was rooting for him, but I felt he caught a lucky break because of his stature and name.

Another thing, I don't even understand why he was trying to stand up with that dude. Thats not even his strength and I kept thinking, "take this ****er to the ground and its over".

Soon as he did that, he won. I'm guessing he was trying to make the fight more exciting, but I just couldn't stand to see him try to go toe to toe.

It was also pretty despicable to see him keep tapping his chin after the fight as if its made of iron. He got dropped from one punch and looked pretty stupid doing what he did.


Good night of fights though, I enjoyed it.
He had his takedown attempts snuffed in the first round. In the second, Carwin didn't even hardly try to defend, as he was gassed by then. He didn't try that many, but when he did try them they were defended well. It's not as simple as you think, especially against a good wrestler as is Carwin.

DR.ORGYY
07-04-2010, 03:58 AM
Any vids?????????

Blair_Wells#32
07-04-2010, 06:32 AM
Nodogoshi jus shut up Brock Took all those ****ing shots that would KO your hero Fedor and kept working. Brock is now the ****ing #1 HW in the ****ing world so take Fedors nuts out of your mouth and Bow to the new king *****!!! the baddest mother****er on the planet!!! you can't deny.
so suck it up.
:boxing:

mrbigshot
07-04-2010, 07:34 AM
the ref would have stopped it when he was taking all those punches. He got a huge benefit from is name in that fight, and to his credit came back to win. I was rooting for him, but I felt he caught a lucky break because of his stature and name.

Another thing, I don't even understand why he was trying to stand up with that dude. Thats not even his strength and I kept thinking, "take this ****er to the ground and its over".

Soon as he did that, he won. I'm guessing he was trying to make the fight more exciting, but I just couldn't stand to see him try to go toe to toe.

It was also pretty despicable to see him keep tapping his chin after the fight as if its made of iron. He got dropped from one punch and looked pretty stupid doing what he did.


Good night of fights though, I enjoyed it.

i agree i thought brock should of been stopped because he was not intelligently defending himself and was not punching back!! but because he his the champion i suppose he deserved the chance to make it out and he showed us his heart chin and balls there his no quit in that man and all this WWE rubbish can now be rest from that sh1t!!

i thought carwin would win but i got that one wrong but i still think carwin his world class just needs to work on his conditioning a bit more maybe lose a bit of the bulk???

th4l3pr3ch4un
07-04-2010, 08:41 AM
Look at you complaining about the no stoppage, the referee clearly made the right decision by giving brock the opportunity to keep fighting i thought it was going to be stopped too but i wasnt right there in the ring and brock proved his ability to recover.. ill tell you where brock really won that fight was in the gym in his training camp because he was ready for a 5 round war and Shane wasnt

monaroCountry
07-04-2010, 08:56 AM
Nodogoshi jus shut up Brock Took all those ****ing shots that would KO your hero Fedor and kept working. Brock is now the ****ing #1 HW in the ****ing world so take Fedors nuts out of your mouth and Bow to the new king *****!!! the baddest mother****er on the planet!!! you can't deny.
so suck it up.
:boxing:

Those shots werent even hard, two sloppy punchers at best. Fedor on the other hand took shots from the very best K1 fighters. Brock and Carwin just looked like two drunk guys in a parking lot.

Blair_Wells#32
07-04-2010, 09:01 AM
:rofl: he took a few glancing blows from crocop and shilt but it was on the ground a few seconds after that.

But Fedor Fans....Brock Fans...Can't we all just get along lmao :beerchug:

Virgil Caine
07-04-2010, 09:21 AM
:rofl: he took a few glancing blows from crocop and shilt but it was on the ground a few seconds after that.

But Fedor Fans....Brock Fans...Can't we all just get along lmao :beerchug:

He took a Crocop left highkick to the side of his head which cut him open and didn't even appear phased by it. Also, you keep bringing up Rogers. Rogers caught him with a jab and busted open his nose in the opening moments of the fight. He never knocked him down or anything as you tend to claim. Fedor weathered Roger's early onslaught, and Rogers was gassed out by the second round. Does that sound familiar?

Now lets see what happened when Brock got caught with a punch:
http://i49.tinypic.com/332m536.gif

He turtled up and turned tail, basically tried to hide in the corner. Fedor is a much better standup fighter than Carwin or Lesnar, with Carwin clearly the much better of the two. That doesn't mean that Lesnar couldn't potentially get Fedor down and work his ground and pound, and no question Brock would be a difficult guy for anyone to get off. Fedor is not taken down too easily though and he would probably snuff Brock's initial takedowns at the very least. Brock would pose a difficult challenge for Fedor, but I think Fedor clearly has the tools to beat him. Based on the styles, I think Carwin would be an easier fight for Fedor for several reasons. I have to favor Fedor over either guy though. As I've said, Lesnar poses a difficult test for anyone, but he is far from unbeatable. Fedor is a much better fighter, it is simply the difference in size and strength which makes it seemingly a fairly even fight.

Blair_Wells#32
07-04-2010, 09:30 AM
:cool2: Nodogoshi a post with very little hate i like it so i'll reply to you in kind.
i've posted a few vids of Brocks ground game when he fights someone he knows has sub skills, Frank Mir a BJJ Blackbelt got worked on the ground where he wanted the fight to go, brock gave mir Zero room to try and sub him; brock stayed close an still beat the hell out of him.
i think he would do the same to fedor.
Fedor fought wrestlers b4 but none of the calibre of brock, he's stronger,faster and more explosive then anyone Fedor fought so i'd give the Advantage to Brock.

Clegg
07-04-2010, 10:49 AM
He took a Crocop left highkick to the side of his head which cut him open and didn't even appear phased by it. Also, you keep bringing up Rogers. Rogers caught him with a jab and busted open his nose in the opening moments of the fight. He never knocked him down or anything as you tend to claim. Fedor weathered Roger's early onslaught, and Rogers was gassed out by the second round. Does that sound familiar?

Now lets see what happened when Brock got caught with a punch:
http://i49.tinypic.com/332m536.gif

He turtled up and turned tail, basically tried to hide in the corner. Fedor is a much better standup fighter than Carwin or Lesnar, with Carwin clearly the much better of the two. That doesn't mean that Lesnar couldn't potentially get Fedor down and work his ground and pound, and no question Brock would be a difficult guy for anyone to get off. Fedor is not taken down too easily though and he would probably snuff Brock's initial takedowns at the very least. Brock would pose a difficult challenge for Fedor, but I think Fedor clearly has the tools to beat him. Based on the styles, I think Carwin would be an easier fight for Fedor for several reasons. I have to favor Fedor over either guy though. As I've said, Lesnar poses a difficult test for anyone, but he is far from unbeatable. Fedor is a much better fighter, it is simply the difference in size and strength which makes it seemingly a fairly even fight.

Indeed.

I don't get it personally...in the first round, Brock was unable to take down Carwin. Brock was unable to land any strikes on Carwin. Brock did well to survive on his back but didn't show much in the way of actual skills IMO.

Despite all of that, people are still talking about him being some unstoppable takedown machine.

Scratch2win28
07-04-2010, 01:34 PM
Indeed.

I don't get it personally...in the first round, Brock was unable to take down Carwin. Brock was unable to land any strikes on Carwin. Brock did well to survive on his back but didn't show much in the way of actual skills IMO.

Despite all of that, people are still talking about him being some unstoppable takedown machine.I'm pretty sure the layoff didnt help.

vinnie7731
07-04-2010, 02:29 PM
brock looked small....he lost a ton of muscle

alll i know is carwin did well and probably should have won if he didnt gas out

i bet frank mir loved every minute of the first round

-Antonio-
07-04-2010, 02:31 PM
He looked fine to me. There were two really good shots, but Brock barely looked hurt, only dazed. He covered most of his head with just his forearm lol.

Danny Gunz
07-04-2010, 03:34 PM
I think if brock was on top punching carwin the ref would have stopped it... but either way it shouldnt of been stopped and lesnar really pulled away.

Im sure the whole gameplan for lesnar's camp was just to get out of the first round and wrestle him on the ground until he was completely drained.

Sumthang bit me
07-04-2010, 05:11 PM
I think if brock was on top punching carwin the ref would have stopped it... but either way it shouldnt of been stopped and lesnar really pulled away.

Im sure the whole gameplan for lesnar's camp was just to get out of the first round and wrestle him on the ground until he was completely drained.

Thats pretty much my point. Brock being who he is, is what saved the fight from getting stopped. He most definitely recieved that NBA 'superstar' treatment.


Anyone else getting pounded like that, and the fight is over.

American_Ninja
07-04-2010, 06:08 PM
Watch the fight again, he wasn't hurt that bad. Who slumped on his stool gasping for air after 1 round?

Yes Brock looked a bit smaller, but he had more muscle and less fat.
Conditioning won Brock the fight.

As far as Why did Brock try to stand with Shane, all fights start standing, only a fool would rush into Carwin trying for a take down. Brock did what he had to do, both were checking each other out. Brock threw a couple of straight rights that missed, but had one landed it would have hurt Carwin.

In the end, after it was all said and done.

Brock Lesnar prevailed. Cain: RIP

th4l3pr3ch4un
07-05-2010, 09:43 AM
Thats pretty much my point. Brock being who he is, is what saved the fight from getting stopped. He most definitely recieved that NBA 'superstar' treatment.


Anyone else getting pounded like that, and the fight is over.



Superstar treatment? Give me a ****ing break, its the biggest fight the UFC can possiblly put on, the Heavyweight Title.. that is why the fight was not stopped, the referee did an outstanding job and although lesnar took alot of shots when you watch closely alot of the shots were being deflected. You wish the fight was stopped early because of your dislike for lesnar but be honest with yourself the correct call was clearly made.