Who wins, Dariusz Michalczewski v. Roy Jones Jr.? In his past three fights RJJ has shown us all that he handles pressure horribly, and DM is a pure pressure style fighter. Yes RJJ is not in his prime, but for a once great to lose in such a fashion raises serious questions about said fighters greatness. I think we all know that DM became the linear champ by beating Virgil Hill. That he was stripped of the WBA belt immediatlely after the fight for having the WBO belt at the same time. And that William Guthrie sued him and won by having the IBF order DM to give him a title shot within 30 days after he won the IBF belt from Hill. So the guy becomes linear champ and leaves with the same belt he entered the fight with, the WBO belt. Talk about getting screwed. We all know about the attempts to make a fight between RJJ and DM happen. Too bad Roy outbid himself once again from a fight by demanding $10 million. I wonder why he did that? The fight can never happen now because both fighters are well past their primes and they should probably both retire. The RJJ fans say that DM lost in a SD to Julio Cesar Gonzalez, and that RJJ beat Gonzalez. If you are going to point to fighters losses that happen after they are past their prime then you have to also allow for RJJ's two humiliating losses to Johnson and Tarver. Gonzalez was also one of the many fighters to have beaten Johnson. DM and RJJ have had quite a few common opponents and DM seems to have a slite edge in this one.

RJJ: Gonzalez UD 12; Harmon TKO 10; Hall TKO 11; Griffin (L)DQ 9, KO 1; Hill KO 4

DM: Gonzalez (L)SD 12; Harmon KO 9; Hall TKO 10, 11; Griffin TKO 4; Hill UD 12

if they were both prime, Jones by close decision or very late ko(not likely though). He would win a close decision

If anyone is going down it is RJJ. DM is the one with the power here, not RJJ. The only way RJJ wins is by decision.

true Dariusz has more power, but he couldnt beat RJJ if they were both prime.

How do you come to this conclusion.

Neuraxis....

It's obvious you have an Eastern-Euro bias.
Darius M. LOST to Gonzalez...LOST to him.

That's pathetic.

jabsRstiff...

It's obvious you have an anti Eastern-Euro bias.
Roy Jones Jr. LOST to Johnson...LOST to him.

That's pathetic.

.....................Touche.

dm verse tarver i wanna see

What about DM being over the hill didn't you get?

RJJ would have probably beaten DM in his prime. DM was to much of a plodder for RJJ. Both of those guy's deserve stick for not making that fight, and leaving unanswered questions. That was the fight everyone wanted to see at light heavyweight, and it never happened for whatever reason. That's the story for the second half of RJJ's career really. There were plenty of fights he should have made, which he didn't.

RJJ would have probably beaten DM in his prime. DM was to much of a plodder for RJJ. Both of those guy's deserve stick for not making that fight, and leaving unanswered questions. That was the fight everyone wanted to see at light heavyweight, and it never happened for whatever reason. That's the story for the second half of RJJ's career really. There were plenty of fights he should have made, which he didn't.

How would RJJ have beaten him? I'm not seeing any scenario where he does this unless DM gives RJJ too much respect powerwise. I don't see why he would do this though, he has said that he wouldn't have done it, he has never been KO'd, and RJJ's record at light heavyweight shows just what kind of power he had at 15-3 with 9 KO's.

As for the fight not happening, DM was wrong for initially insisting on the fight being in Germany. When he caved into RJJ demands that the fight be held in the U.S. RJJ demanded a 70/30 split. Sounds fair. RJJ did the same thing to DM that he did to numerous fighters from higher weightclasses. So like fighters like Jirov, Sanders, and Douglas, RJJ never had any intention of fighting DM in the first place.

DM lost to Derrick Harmon and Julio Gonzalez. NUFF SAID!!!! Jones would have kicked his ass had he ever nutted up to fight him.

DM lost to Derrick Harmon and Julio Gonzalez. NUFF SAID!!!! Jones would have kicked his ass had he ever nutted up to fight him.

DM lost to Derrick Harmon? What planet are you living on? DM KO'd him in 9. RJJ lost to Glengoffe Johnson, Antonio Tarver, and Montell Griffin. NUFF SAID!!!!

The first fight with Harmon, Harmon was kicking his ass and Harmon was stopped for BULL****. I saw the tape on it. It was almost as bad as the Green-Beyer robbery.

Which was two fights ago, when we have already said that DM was slipping. You are just proving my point DM was determined to get insided on Harmon and he took punches trying to do so. DM was able to get inside and rock Harmon with 8 unanswered punches that sent him to the mat in the 9th where he failed to beat the count. So a non prime DM is able to KO Harmon in the 9th while it took a RJJ in 2001 10 rounds to TKO him. Also notice how at times Jones threw combinations to get Johnson off of him but Johnson kept coming. Johnson doesn't have DM's skills so thanks for proving my point.

The first fight with Harmon, Harmon was kicking his ass and Harmon was stopped for BULL****. I saw the tape on it. It was almost as bad as the Green-Beyer robbery.

I was also unaware that he fought Harmon more than one time. I missed what planet you were from, but mabye you forgot to answer my question, or maybe I missed it.

DM wouldnt have a chance in Roy's prime.
Fighting and beating Roy now wouldnt be proving ne thing.

I am still waiting for how RJJ was going to beat DM.

Still no takers huh.

color DM's skin black and then everyone would vote for him!

How about one of the RJJ fanboys give me some reasons and stop just voting without explaining how RJJ is going to beat him.

How about one of the RJJ fanboys give me some reasons and stop just voting without explaining how RJJ is going to beat him.
I think it was obvious Roy wanted NO part of Mic!!! He made all these excuses and when DM gave in, Roy priced himself out of the fight!!! Roy would never take any risks in his career!!!

Which is exactly why I am wondering why so many dillusional people think that he was an all time great light heavyweight. Stop lying to yourselves.

Still no takers?

Still waiting...

DM's shot too - But not as shot as Roy seems to be...

Right this is prime for prime. I don't think that anyone would think that Jones could win now.

Right this is prime for prime. I don't think that anyone would think that Jones could win now.


DM is pure pressure like you said, but in their primes, i think RJJ would outbox and stay out of harms way, while DM pressures him self into exhaustion, im not an RJJ nuthugger, but I dont deny the man's brilliance, it is a sad ending for him.

DM is pure pressure like you said, but in their primes, i think RJJ would outbox and stay out of harms way, while DM pressures him self into exhaustion, im not an RJJ nuthugger, but I dont deny the man's brilliance, it is a sad ending for him.

There's a possibility of that happening, but the people who say that RJJ would have KO'd DM obviously know nothing about boxing.

A prime RJJ would maintain the distance he needs to keep DM off him, the prime Jones was a lot harder to swarm than he is now

exactly, you couldnt swarm jones in his prime, if he was he would have been exposed before, paz tried to swarm him and he got kayoed, plenty others did too

Lol...did you see his fight with Clinton Woods? That's an example of why you couldn't swarm a prime Jones.

the prime Jones was a lot harder to swarm than he is now

True, but then again the prime DM was head and shoulders above Tarver and Johnson.

Tarver would have kayoed DM

Tarver would have kayoed DM

Tarver is overrated. You people say so every day. Had RJJ not been shot, he would have walked through Tarver, or is this all a lie.

Lol...did you see his fight with Clinton Woods? That's an example of why you couldn't swarm a prime Jones.

Now we are comparing the linear champ to trash like Clinton Woods.

prime roy would have beaten tarver, true that, but tarver would have been a tough opponent for him, he is long strong and has an awkward style for jones

I'm not comparing Woods to anyone, I'm simply adding to the post made on how Prime Jones couldn't be swarmed..

linear champ, what planet are you from? rjj was the light heavy king dude, seriously, he would have beat the **** out of dm, all the euro fighters fight bums in their home towns, they all do that, Calzaghe is ****ing trash so is hatton and dm and the rest of them who rack up 35-0 records against bums, lets see them do that in the states

linear champ, what planet are you from? rjj was the light heavy king dude, seriously, he would have beat the **** out of dm, all the euro fighters fight bums in their home towns, they all do that, Calzaghe is ****ing trash so is hatton and dm and the rest of them who rack up 35-0 records against bums, lets see them do that in the states

Calzaghe may be trash, but Hatton and DM clearly are not. The fact that DM was the linear champ is not debateable. Virgil Hill was the linear champ. DM beat him and won the WBA and IBF belts as well as the linear champ status.

rjj kayoed hill in the fourth with a body shot, so what does that tell you?

I agree, Euro fighters do suck...If you look at any of the all time greats in alot of different divisions...not alot of them were European.

rjj kayoed hill in the fourth with a body shot, so what does that tell you?

That he was a DM leftover. DM finished off Hall, Harmon, and Griffin (not counting RJJ second try) faster than RJJ could.

Tiger Dariusz Michalczewski :boxing: Roy Jones Jr

- didnt fight since 1997-2005 why ?? Jones - scary Tiger !!
Tiger KO Jones - Hamburg or USA doesnt matter where - the ring is the same :boxing:

That he was a DM leftover. DM finished off Hall, Harmon, and Griffin (not counting RJJ second try) faster than RJJ could.
Hill went on to win a title at cruiser weight after jones defeated him. In their primes, jones would have destroyed dariusz, who is MUCH slower than jones. See jones vs. sosa, bryant, paz, etc. and you'll understand that swarming a prime jones is suicide. If you compare their careers, jones' accomplishments are far ahead of dariusz's's's's. Dariusz was not a true world champion. To be a true world champion, you have to fight in the united states (where virtually all of the top fighters fight)

Darius received back to back beatings from Richard Hall, where he was saved by the referee.


Darius wouldn't have stood a chance agaisnt 1997-2003 Roy Jones, and he knew that.

The only time I know of that he came to the US was to sit ringside at Jones vs Hill.

After that he never came back.

Go figure.

They were both too scared to leave their backyards.

s-p-r-i-t-e!