View Full Version : Why has there never been a black presidential candidate? Discuss.


Slipx
07-05-2005, 08:18 PM
if america supposedly is so 'free' of racism (yea right) then how come there hasnt been any black presidential candidates. id probably vote for the guy if he had liberal views and would cut military spending and put the money towards our health care so maybe we could get free health care like canada..

the fact that a black dude has never ran makes our country look racist imo for being the melting pot country thats supposed to be non racist.

and its ****ed up too because theres some smart black dudes out there that would do a good job running the country better than bush..

Alpha Male
07-05-2005, 08:35 PM
if america supposedly is so 'free' of racism (yea right) then how come there hasnt been any black presidential candidates. id probably vote for the guy if he had liberal views and would cut military spending and put the money towards our health care so maybe we could get free health care like canada..

the fact that a black dude has never ran makes our country look racist imo for being the melting pot country thats supposed to be non racist.

and its ****ed up too because theres some smart black dudes out there that would do a good job running the country better than bush..


Where have you been? Al Sharpton ran for the presidency this past presidential election. He just wasn't nominated by the Dems.

BadMagick
07-05-2005, 08:35 PM
There have been a few. Alan Keyes was running back in 2000, but no one voted for him to get past the prelims. A few other dudes have tried, too. No one wants to vote them in, though.

Our country wasn't founded on socialism. If you want to live in a socialistic society, move to Canada, or Sweden, or something. The whole reason that no extreme-leftist has been voted in is because they are socialists. I don't know about you, but I like to be free, and when socialism starts to become the political ideology of a nation, the individual loses his or her freedoms.

I'd rather have a small government that didn't impose any regulations on its people, and was only there to keep the peace, and punish the criminals, than live in a society where everything is controlled by the state.

It's people like you that are turning this world into a giant **** hole.

Detroit Cobra
07-05-2005, 08:38 PM
Unfortunately, the best that black people have offered so far are Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson... not so good when they are both outspoken, lying hypocrites. In fact, if you want to get technical, Al Sharpton was a presidential candidate this past election. You shoulda voted for him in the primary.

In the future, Obama out of Illinios could be a force.

BadMagick
07-05-2005, 08:45 PM
Unfortunately, the best that black people have offered so far are Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson... not so good when they are both outspoken, lying hypocrites. In fact, if you want to get technical, Al Sharpton was a presidential candidate this past election. You shoulda voted for him in the primary.

In the future, Obama out of Illinios could be a force.

Let's hope he's not. He'll further degrade the state of the country with his socialist ideologies.

oldgringo
07-05-2005, 08:45 PM
Obama in 2012 baby!



The sad truth is that there are a lot of people who aren't ready for a black president. I think Obama will change it though.

Detroit Cobra
07-05-2005, 08:49 PM
Let's hope he's not. He'll further degrade the state of the country with his socialist ideologies.

I agree 100%. I wouldn't vote for him. He'll be unbelievably popular by 2008/2012, though. I can definitely see him getting the Dem nod.

IMO, I think the first black or female president will have to come out of the Republican party. It will be way to hard to get a Democrat elected.

BadMagick
07-05-2005, 08:52 PM
Obama in 2012 baby!



The sad truth is that there are a lot of people who aren't ready for a black president. I think Obama will change it though.

Why would you want that man as a president? Did you see the debates he and Alan Keyes had? Keyes ****ing owned his ass in everyone of them, but no one wanted to hear the truth. He made Obama look like a ****ing third grader. He doesn't know a damn thing about the Constitution, either, other than how to distort it in order to fit his agenda. The man is a socialist, and is a danger to the country.

Alpha Male
07-05-2005, 08:52 PM
It doesn't matter who becomes the president. Who ever controls the Congress and the Senate controls the country.

Dr.Depravity
07-05-2005, 08:54 PM
Sharpton and Jackson are straight clowns. Jackson is nothing more than an extortionist. Keyes is too hard core right to get in. The reason Republicans wont put him in is because he's too conservative to get elected. As for Canada's health care? they can keep it. All of their best doctors are moving out of there faster than ****. I know three personally that left there. One told me their system is completely unfair and if you have a serious problem, you have to wait in line for MONTHS! while they tirelessly prod through elective procedures.

Mech.
07-05-2005, 08:57 PM
Why would you want that man as a president? Did you see the debates he and Alan Keyes had? Keyes ****ing owned his ass in everyone of them, but no one wanted to hear the truth. He made Obama look like a ****ing third grader. He doesn't know a damn thing about the Constitution, either, other than how to distort it in order to fit his agenda. The man is a socialist, and is a danger to the country.


Uhhhh.A gov that will tell you who you can and cannot marry,is the one you ought to be wary of.Dont tell me you fear the liberal media is corrupting everyones minds too?!

Alan Keyes is a joke,a last minute stand in for republicans Because of Obama,that he even accepted that offer makes him a ****ing sideshow.

The Troll
07-05-2005, 08:58 PM
This is not the kind of bull**** you should be thinking about when you talking about politics in the the United States it is f***Ing retarded. Hmmm I will vote for Hillary Clinton because she is a women yeah baby!!!!! ;)

I will vote for this because he is black and there has never been a black president. This kind of thought is absolute bull****. Who would you actually want that is black for President.

The only relevant issue on this matter is that Jews and people associated with Jews are grossly overrepresented in the US Government. Donald Rumsfeld, Karl Rove, Dick Cheney (wears Yamulka's occasionally), Ari Fleischer (an actual Isreali citezin) , Richard Perle, Paul Wolofowitz, Rupert Murdoch, Bill Kristol, Wesley Clark, John Kerry. This is something that is very relavant to look into the implications of.

On the contrary there was only one Catholic in the BUsh administration inner circle cabinet and he quit. He was the finance secretary. And Catholics make up a huge percentage of total people in the United States.

Forget about having a black Presidential candiate. All I want is a damn American presidential Canidate instead of exclusively Jewish ones. I dont care if that person happens to be black.

oldgringo
07-05-2005, 08:58 PM
Why would you want that man as a president? Did you see the debates he and Alan Keyes had? Keyes ****ing owned his ass in everyone of them, but no one wanted to hear the truth. He made Obama look like a ****ing third grader. He doesn't know a damn thing about the Constitution, either, other than how to distort it in order to fit his agenda. The man is a socialist, and is a danger to the country.


Honestly, I'm not too thrilled about any potential candidates. That (my Obama comment) was a pretty shallow comment which I said more because I'd like to see a black president, not because I'm extremely keen on his politics.

Slipx
07-05-2005, 09:04 PM
It's people like you that are turning this world into a giant **** hole.

At least I don't have to lie about where I live and make excuses for why I don't goto a gym, claiming I don't goto a gym because the nearest one is a couple hours away, on a message board..then end up exposing myself saying I'm from Chicago a month later...like you did two months ago..

I suggest you go back to bragging about scoring 170 on some online IQ test...

Slipx
07-05-2005, 09:06 PM
Personally I think the real reason there has never been a black president, is because all those old white guys that run **** up there think that if a black man becomes president, they'll overrun the nation, or something funny like that. I mean most white dudes must already think that, otherwise why do they live in gated suburban communities and pack mulitple .357 handguns in their homes

i had a redneck friend who had a nut for a dad. one time i went over there and he was installing a 6 inch thick steel plate on the bottom of his couch. he said the 'n!gger war' was coming and that he had to have something to hide behind. im not joking. this man had enough weapons in his home to supply the whole neighborhood.crazy son of a *****.


my last memory of him was we were sitting outside and we saw this grey camaro speed by. he got in his truck and went to the guys house the camaro pulled in at, i guess he *****ed at him for speeding. my buddys punk ass old man came home nursing a reddened face and swollen eye, he got his ass kicked

The Troll
07-05-2005, 09:10 PM
The reason there has never been a black president is very very very very very simple. Only about 11 or 12% of people in the United States are black. So why would you expect such a minority to have a person as president? That is the logical question.

Slipx
07-05-2005, 09:12 PM
The reason there has never been a black president is very very very very very simple. Only about 11 or 12% of people in the United States are black.

so you are saying out of 18-20% of our total population they cant get one guy to almost make it? its much higher than 12%, it was like 14% in 1995, and they honestly do breed a little quicker than whites imo. the country of Niger is the top of the breeding grounds in the world, with the average woman having up to eight children

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and sharpton ****ed himself with all his legal crap beforehand

The Troll
07-05-2005, 09:13 PM
so you are saying out of 12% of our total population they cant get one guy to almost make it?

invalid

and sharpton ****ed himself with all his legal crap beforehand

This is all bull**** talk anyway. Also, every prominent black politician with a few exception like Colin Powell are outspoken racists.

Slipx
07-05-2005, 09:14 PM
This is all bull**** talk anyway. Also, every prominent black politician with a few exception like Colin Powell are outspoken racists.

the only bull**** is the 12%. whered you get that number?

The Troll
07-05-2005, 09:15 PM
the only bull**** is the 12%. whered you get that number?

The number is accurate give or take a few percent. I dont care if the President is black as long as he is not Jewish and puppet of Jewish interests. That is only relevant thing.

BadMagick
07-05-2005, 09:17 PM
At least I don't have to lie about where I live and make excuses for why I don't goto a gym, claiming I don't goto a gym because the nearest one is a couple hours away, on a message board..then end up exposing myself saying I'm from Chicago a month later...like you did two months ago..

I suggest you go back to bragging about scoring 170 on some online IQ test...

Okay Larry. Why don't you go back to teaching Roy how to avoid shots while leveling up your mage on everquest?

Honestly, I'm not too thrilled about any potential candidates. That (my Obama comment) was a pretty shallow comment which I said more because I'd like to see a black president, not because I'm extremely keen on his politics.


That's just stupid, man. Why vote for someone if you disagree with their platform? Who gives a damn what color he is?

Uhhhh.A gov that will tell you who you can and cannot marry,is the one you ought to be wary of.Dont tell me you fear the liberal media is corrupting everyones minds too?!

Alan Keyes is a joke,a last minute stand in for republicans Because of Obama,that he even accepted that offer makes him a ****ing sideshow.


First off, Keyes is an icredibly intelligent man who destroyed Obama in every debate they had, using pure logic. Obama then rallied his emotional fronts to win him votes. People are scared of Keyes because he's too smart. He knows a lot about a lot, and he lost a huge portion of the minority and poor vote, because he wouldn't stand for this socialist welfare system we have.

Secondly, the liberal media has nothing to do with this. They corrupt minds, sure, but everything does. The thing that most corrupts minds is the education system, which, oddly enough, is run by the state. My government is not telling me who I can marry, it's just saying gay relationships are wrong, and immoral, which they are. If the government stops the spread of immoralities, then I'm for it. If it continues to push these gross ideologies, and push for the destruction of both family and religion, as it has, then there is a problem.

Slipx
07-05-2005, 09:22 PM
leveling up your mage on everquest?

Hey, I'd rather be an honest computer nerd, than a chump like you who lies about his reality and etc on a message board. I wonder what your next lie will be? The last lie was most likely the IQ test score you had to brag about in that thread just yesterday or the day before..

& my main was a wizard, but obviously since you know about the mage class you've played the game a bit as well, you hypocritical pathological liar..

BadMagick
07-05-2005, 09:25 PM
Hey, I'd rather be an honest computer nerd, than a chump like you who lies about his reality and etc on a message board. I wonder what your next lie will be? The last lie was most likely the IQ test score you had to brag about.

my main was a wizard, but obviously since you know about the mage class you've played the game a bit as well, hypocrite.

No, I haven't. I don't like to spend money on games to play online. I've read about the game, because I do play games, online and off, but I've never played it. It's common sense that a fantasy game would contain a mage class, though. I did play the PS2 demo a bit, though. Didn't entertain me much.

I am from Chicago, I was born there, and I consider it my hometown. It's also one of the two places anyone from outside Illinois has heard of, the ohter being Springfield, and, not only would I never want to associate myself with that ****hole, but it's also much, much further from me. I can easily prove where I live, but what would be the point? To boost my e-reputation? Please.

Also, at least I don't make a new account to inflate my e-ego, either. And at least I don't think I'm some sort of great boxer, when I have no head movement, and a complete lack of foot movement, too, essentially making a tree look mobile.

Slipx
07-05-2005, 09:28 PM
I am from Chicago, I was born there, and I consider it my hometown. It's also one of the two places anyone from outside Illinois has heard of, the ohter being Springfield, and, not only would I never want to associate myself with that ****hole, but it's also much, much further from me. I can easily prove where I live, but what would be the point? To boost my e-reputation? Please.

Don't try to deny what you did. If you deny it again, I'm gonna pull up the old thread and own you with your own quotes.

You said the only reason you don't train is that you live 100 miles away from the nearest gym. In a later thread you owned yourself saying you lived in Chicago, I guess you forgot you tried to convice me that you lived out in the boonies. If you live in a city like Chicago you aren't any more than 40 or so miles from the nearest gym regardless of where you live.

After you get owned here, I predict you'll make a thread requesting that I get banned because I stuck it in you once again.


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I don't train is because I live over 100 miles away from the nearest gym. I can't move out because I'm seventeen and my parents support my college education, they are investing in my brilliance.



then, three weeks later, in a different thread..


I live in Chicago.

BadMagick
07-05-2005, 09:31 PM
Don't try to deny what you did. If you deny it again, I'm gonna pull up the old thread and own you with your own quotes.

You said the only reason you don't train is that you live 100 miles away from the nearest gym. In a later thread you owned yourself saying you lived in Chicago, I guess you forgot you tried to convice me that you lived out in the boonies. If you live in a city like Chicago you aren't any more than 40 or so miles from the nearest gym regardless of where you live.

After you get owned here, I predict you'll make a thread requesting that I get banned because I stuck it in you once again.

I live in Belvidere, IL, not Chicago. I said that the closest gym was $100 a month, and I didn't have the money for it, and the next closest gym was about a hundred miles away, not counting the one open for two hours a night, when I'm working, which is in Elgin, IL. I didn't lie at all, it's a common thing to say you're from the closest major city to you. I know people who say they live in Seattle, WA, but they really live in another city. It just happens to be that's the most recognized city in Washington state.

http://www.pugsboxinggym.com/

That's the closest gym to me, located in Marengo, IL. It's not in the boonies, either. It's actually close to one of the other major cities in IL, but there is no boxing gym anywhere near here that doesn't cost $100 a month, and that isn't closed. There is one place that offers aerobic boxing, as well.

Another thing, it's a common debate tactic used by the weaker of the two in debating to attack someone's character in order to make them look insufficient in the debate; however, a careful observer will see that all the one is doing is attacking character, while the other is presenting real issues to be discussed. Essentially, the attacker dodges all the points, because he or she has no reasonable response for them.

oldgringo
07-05-2005, 10:41 PM
Magick thats why I said it was a shallow comment.

SonnyG8R
07-05-2005, 10:41 PM
Obama in 2012 baby!



The sad truth is that there are a lot of people who aren't ready for a black president. I think Obama will change it though.

You may be right. I like him a lot.

czars_salad
07-05-2005, 11:08 PM
It doesn't matter who becomes the president. Who ever controls the Congress and the Senate controls the country.
dude, you have a very disturbing signature

Torino
07-06-2005, 12:06 AM
There were some that said Colin Powell would have been elected in 2000 had he ran.

I wouldn't hesitate to vote for a black candidate or anyone for that matter, if I felt they best represented my interests.

masterdirector
07-06-2005, 12:29 AM
I'm for whoever is against gays the most usually. I don't care about health care. I don't want any taxes at all, period. And if we have taxes, we should simply pay for what we use. I'd rather pay for everything as I go and not have to pay taxes. Cause let's see, what do I use that the Gov't actually funds? Roads, public school, public library. That's it. We pay for roads with gas prices. Public school? Hell, don't charge me tax and I'll gladly pay for my own schooling. Library? Again, its something I can do without and I wouldn't be willing to pay for.

Property tax is unfair and ridiculous. There should be a way where you can retire and not pay any tax whatsoever. Cause I don't want to deal with all that ****, paying **** when I'm retired. I just want to buy everything I want and do whatever I want to make me happy. Not worry about paying stupid **** that I don't even really owe.

And okay if you're going to have property tax, just charge it once and be done with it for any piece of property that qualifies, not yearly.

Gift tax, also unfair. You win any money, the gov't gets half (49% technically). I wouldn't waste my time on the lottery anyhow, but if I won the lottery, 49% would go to the gov't. If that's the case, let them put up 49% of the price for each lottery ticket.

Our government ****s us over royally. And racists blame other races for the gov't charging taxes, actually believing that if those other races weren't around, the same exact taxes wouldn't exist, which is silly.

I'd GLADLY give up my right to vote if I didn't have to pay any taxes.