View Full Version : Williamson:"How can W. Klitschko go to court for boxing and he doesn't want to fight"


!! Mr. Soprano
07-05-2005, 10:32 AM
Exclusive Interview: DaVarryl Williamson
By G. Leon

"How can Wladimir Klitschko go to court for boxing and he doesn't want to fight?"


"Who sues a sanctioning body over a ranking? The judge suggested that we fight it out and I want to fight, it doesn't look like Wladimir does. If he would have won a ten round decision over me or beaten me clearly, I would say there's a legit aroma to what he's saying. But if you have a baseball game and the score is two to one in the fourth inning, who won the game? It's a rain out. For Klitschko to sit on his high horse is ridiculous. How can he accept that win?," rhetorically asked Williamson. Click here to see what else the heavy handed contender had to say.

"Right after that fight I took the fight with Oliver McCall. You could say what you want about him, but nobody out there is in a rush to fight him. He's still a good fighter at 40, 41 or whatever he is. Then I come back and fight a world ranked fighter in Derrick Jefferson, who Wladimir Klitschko had beaten in Germany a number of years ago. You have to look at Wladimir last few fights and my last few fights and you tally em up.

"When I lost to Joe Mesi in Buffalo you didn't hear any ridiculous story. I sucked it up and rolled with the punches. I looked at what I did wrong and fixed those problems. I didn't come up with any conspiracy theories. My wife tells me, DaVarryl you are the truth and the truth will be told and it's just a matter of time. This is a sport where I've had my way with a number of guys Ring Magazine and other people in the press are impressed with."

GL: You did beat a ranked contender in Derrick Jefferson, but many people including myself felt that Jefferson didn't deserve that ranking to begin with.

DW: "Hey Greg, that's not my job. I don't rank fighters, the sanctioning bodies do. All I did was fight a ranked contender to advance my position, Wladimir didn't. People could say what they want about Jefferson but I fought Castillo when he was hot, I fought Oliver McCall and Jefferson. Compare my fights to Wladimir's and I've been fighting the better competition. The Castillo that I fought is better than the one Wladimir fought."

GL: The Klitschko people believe Castillo should have been ranked based on his win over Michael Moorer, even though he was fighting in four rounders a couple of fights before that.

DW: "That's it. There's nothing else to his resume. Michael Moorer resurrected his career for that one split second to beat Vassiliy Jirov. He was a faded fighter, I mean he was losing the Jirov fight easy until he knocked him out and that's probably why he left the sport on a winning note. Take Moorer off his record and what has done? You tell me Greg.

GL: Other than Moorer, Castillo did absolutely nothing.

DW: "Since there was no closure to our first fight the honorable thing for Wladimir to do was give me a rematch. Since they didn't take the rematch, I've taken greater risks since we fought. He shouldn't be trying to take that away from me when he had ample time to give me a rematch eight months ago.

"And then I'm willing to suspend and pause the position I've been awarded as Chris Byrd's mandatory to fight this man again and he's still saying no. They want the judge to say he's the better fighter, but the judge says the best way to decide is for us to fight it out. How can Klitschko go to court over boxing and he doesn't want to fight?"

GL: Do you believe that either you or Wladimir Klitschko truly deserve to fight for a heavyweight championship before you fight each other again?

DW: "I believe that I do and that's because of the steps that I've taken to get there. I've come up the hard way. I definitely believe I deserve to be in this spot. It could be the IBF, WBC, WBA it doesn't matter, I believe I deserve a shot because I've taken more risk.

"I believe that Chris Byrd has been offered Klitschko at least twice and the fight never happened. This is the third time and they couldn't work it out the first two so Byrd should move on and fight me. They shouldn't reach an agreement on my behalf when I'm trying to win the belt.

"They could've reached an agreement during his optional defense period and nothing was made. Chris Byrd is going to get his minimum to fight me and that would be a very, very competitive fight. But he could probably make more money with Wladimir Klitschko and it's the same kind of risk, but I've been awarded the mandatory position so he shouldn't look to fight someone that he turned down twice either. If he's going to fight anybody it should be me."

"I can't remember anybody taking a sanctioning body to court over their rankings. All you have to do is fight and the problem will be solved so what's the problem? But you see, the problem is these guys don't want to fight nobody. They're always looking for the easiest way out and they're used to having things their way. If they were real champions we wouldn't be having this discussion. If they took riskier fights the public would respect them more.

"Vitali is supposed to be fighting Rahman, he says he's hurt. It's his leg, his shoulder, his back and then after diagnosing his own injury he miraculously healed himself. He's so smart that he should bottle his formula and sell it on the market. Now Rahman is ready to fight Barrett for an interim title and he's suddenly better looking for an interim fight. If he's going to be healthy enough to fight in September he should be healthy enough to fight Rahman on August 13."

TyrantT316
07-05-2005, 10:36 AM
damn guys...just fight damint...this is rediculous that fighter like the big bad HW destroyer have to sue for a higher ranking after a few lull performances

Torino
07-05-2005, 10:45 AM
As the Anti-Klitschko's so often like to say "a win is a win" and Wladimir beat Willianson. It doesn't matter how.

neils7147933
07-05-2005, 10:47 AM
Wlad/Klitschko was far from definitive and was not dominating by Wlad. I don't think when you get a split decision technical win that you should be using that win as a reason why you should be ranked higher.

I don't think either of these guys should be fighting for a belt in 2005 or early 2006, but at least if they fought each other again, the other would have a better argument. The IBF rankings may be the worst of the big 4...

Leo Pradun
07-05-2005, 10:48 AM
I think Wlad should fight Williamson I know he can destroy this cat. I do believe he deserves the title shot cause he did beat Williamson it wasnt a win to be impressed with but he did beat him and therfore should be ranked higher and should be Byrds mandatory but if not they should fight over it and Wlad should be able to scrub this guy...

MetalVomit
07-05-2005, 10:48 AM
As the Anti-Klitschko's so often like to say "a win is a win" and Wladimir beat Willianson. It doesn't matter how.


I agree. The fight stopped early, but when it stopped, Wlad was in ahead in the fight. I guess it can be compared to Vitali vs. Lennox in a way, a win is a win.

neils7147933
07-05-2005, 10:51 AM
As the Anti-Klitschko's so often like to say "a win is a win" and Wladimir beat Willianson. It doesn't matter how.
A win is a win, but the IBF is saying that the Jefferson win by TOS outweighed the Castillo win by Klitschko.

Were Ruiz and V. Klitschko the other ranked guys in the IBF At #1 and #2? Why are those two spots vacant, anyone know?

Anyone know why Rahman and Toney aren't ranked in the IBF Top 15? Or Monte Barrett or Lamon Brewster?

Seems to me these guys are fighting over a title shot when both should be ranked in the second 10.

PBDS
07-05-2005, 10:53 AM
Wlad/Klitschko was far from definitive and was not dominating by Wlad. I don't think when you get a split decision technical win that you should be using that win as a reason why you should be ranked higher.

I don't think either of these guys should be fighting for a belt in 2005 or early 2006, but at least if they fought each other again, the other would have a better argument. The IBF rankings may be the worst of the big 4...


...As Torino so well put it "A win is a win" according the Klitschko non-fans. The problem is that this does not apply for a Klitschko win but only when they lose due to an injury stoppage. You can't have it both ways.

Torino
07-05-2005, 11:02 AM
Were Ruiz and V. Klitschko the other ranked guys in the IBF At #1 and #2? Why are those two spots vacant, anyone know?


Rahman and Barrett were ranked #1 and #2 in the IBF. When they agreed to fight for the interim WBC title, the IBF dropped their rankings leaving the #1 and #2 spots open. At that time Wladimir was ranked #3, and then for some unknown reason, they decided to put Williamson at #3 ahead of Wladimir #4.

neils7147933
07-05-2005, 11:04 AM
Rahman and Barrett were ranked #1 and #2 in the IBF. When they agreed to fight for the interim WBC title, the IBF dropped their rankings leaving the #1 and #2 spots open. At that time Wladimir was ranked #3, and then for some unknown reason, they decided to put Williamson at #3 ahead of Wladimir #4.
How does the IBF justify not ranking other fighters I named? I can understand the champs of the other divisions, I guess. But where's James Toney in the mix?

neils7147933
07-05-2005, 11:06 AM
...As Torino so well put it "A win is a win" according the Klitschko non-fans. The problem is that this does not apply for a Klitschko win but only when they lose due to an injury stoppage. You can't have it both ways.
They've both fought since then, though, and based on THOSE fights, that's how the IBF justified their ranking.

I'm not saying I agree or disagree, just that it's not as clear as some people would contend that Wlad deserves a title shot.

The IBF rankings are awful, and Wlad has hardly earned a shot at calling himself world champion with his post-Brewster fights. But fighters today don't earn their shots all the time - Andrew Golota and Kali Meehan come to mind...

Torino
07-05-2005, 11:07 AM
How does the IBF justify not ranking other fighters I named? I can understand the champs of the other divisions, I guess. But where's James Toney in the mix?

I believe the same is true for Toney. When he agreed to fight Ruiz for the WBA title, the IBF dropped his ranking.

Torino
07-05-2005, 11:15 AM
Both Wladimir and Williamson won their last two fights. The main difference is that Wladimir beat Williamson in one of his last two. So it's crazy to me that the IBF has put Williamson ahead of Wladimir. The whole thing reeks of corruption.

neils7147933
07-05-2005, 11:17 AM
I believe the same is true for Toney. When he agreed to fight Ruiz for the WBA title, the IBF dropped his ranking.
It's not a vacant spot, though.

Oh well - anyway, we all must just follow the heavyweight division very closely, because there are discrepancies in rankings in every weight class.

It just seems too easy to call yourself "champ" nowadays.

Antonio Tarver and Glen Johnson deserve respect for not crying about getting a belt, but staking their claim as the best in their division IN THE RING.

Really, is Wlad-TOS II even a main event on HBO or Showtime?

It seems like everyone with a winning record carries a belt of some sort to the ring. Maybe after the Klitschkos have "Acheived their dream" of both holding belts at the same time, they'll adjust their goals. Brewster may be the only "champ" right whose primary motivation doesn't seem to be just to keep his alphabet title. I hope his early 2006 fight is a spectacular one, against a big-name opponent, and HBO puts some heat on Vitali's "true champion" dubbing.

If that fight would be Vitali vs. Brewster, WBC vs. WBO, Byrd and Ruiz would have to fight each other in my opinion, to avoid being regarded as second-tier champions...

Only if we had two champs with two belts each, could the "real champ" be disputed following a WBC vs. WBO unification

Torino
07-05-2005, 11:30 AM
It's not a vacant spot, though.

Oh well - anyway, we all must just follow the heavyweight division very closely, because there are discrepancies in rankings in every weight class.

It just seems too easy to call yourself "champ" nowadays.

Antonio Tarver and Glen Johnson deserve respect for not crying about getting a belt, but staking their claim as the best in their division IN THE RING.

Really, is Wlad-TOS II even a main event on HBO or Showtime?

It seems like everyone with a winning record carries a belt of some sort to the ring. Maybe after the Klitschkos have "Acheived their dream" of both holding belts at the same time, they'll adjust their goals. Brewster may be the only "champ" right whose primary motivation doesn't seem to be just to keep his alphabet title. I hope his early 2006 fight is a spectacular one, against a big-name opponent, and HBO puts some heat on Vitali's "true champion" dubbing.

If that fight would be Vitali vs. Brewster, WBC vs. WBO, Byrd and Ruiz would have to fight each other in my opinion, to avoid being regarded as second-tier champions...

Only if we had two champs with two belts each, could the "real champ" be disputed following a WBC vs. WBO unification

I agree, but I think the same could be said Visa Versa. A WBA/IBF unification first.

!! Mr. Soprano
07-05-2005, 11:53 AM
Really, is Wlad-TOS II even a main event on HBO or Showtime?

I am sure it will be a main event on HBO Boxing After Dark
That's as far as it will go

enadeus
07-05-2005, 01:24 PM
It's obvious that Williamson and Klitscko need a rematch. Their last fight was not deceicive and I wasn't impressed with Vladimirs performance. Instead of arguing, he should go and fight his rematch asap so then if he wins Byrd can't do anything because he would become the mandatory.

DiegoFuego
07-05-2005, 01:50 PM
You can't compare it to Vitali-Lewis because Vitali didn't drop Lewis on his ass the way Williamson did Klitschko. I said since November last year that Wlad was running from Williamson, and now the proof is out baby! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA KLITSCHKO *****

Bozo_no no
07-05-2005, 03:51 PM
Lewis busted Vitali's face up with punches.

Wlad's gash was from an accidental head butt.

In that fight, Wlad was dropped for the 5th time in 6 fights, and he looked very akward, clumsy, and unsure of himself.

It was also a Split TD, with one judge scoring the fight for Williamson.

The bottom line is that there's no reason they can't fight again.

Neither Wlad (who's been embarassed by two fringe contenders in his last 6 fights with no noteworthy wins inbetween or since) or TOS should be ranked to fight for any title.

These to should just go at it again. That's all there is to it.

neils7147933
07-05-2005, 03:55 PM
I agree, but I think the same could be said Visa Versa. A WBA/IBF unification first.
If Byrd and Ruiz unified, I still don't think that the winner would be viewed as the champ. If Vitali and Brewster did, I think the public would view the winner as the true champ.