Is he afraid of flying? I had a friend who was afraid of flying. He is a male stripper and he works jobs on both coasts of the US. The first time he got on an airplane, he started hyperventilating until he passed out from lack of oxygen. Unfortunately for him there was a serial rapist sitting in the seat next to him, and he was taken advantage of while he was unconcious. When the plane landed his underwear was on backwards and his shirt was unbuttoned. So now he has to take the bus whenever he tours the west coast.

So did something like this happen to Ricky or can't he afford a ticket? What do you guys think?

he was at the Mayweather fight so unless he took a boat i dont think hes afraid to fly...lol

he was at the Mayweather fight so unless he took a boat i dont think hes afraid to fly...lol
I didn't know that. He might've taken a boat though. That takes a couple of weeks I think. So can't he fight in Atlantic City? I hear they have a harbor there.

He needs to get his ass in the States or he'll never be legitimate

Is he afraid of flying? I had a friend who was afraid of flying. He is a male stripper and he works jobs on both coasts of the US. The first time he got on an airplane, he started hyperventilating until he passed out from lack of oxygen. Unfortunately for him there was a serial rapist sitting in the seat next to him, and he was taken advantage of while he was unconcious. When the plane landed his underwear was on backwards and his shirt was unbuttoned. So now he has to take the bus whenever he tours the west coast.

So did something like this happen to Ricky or can't he afford a ticket? What do you guys think? Sure he is, he's afraid of Mayweather. Mayweather :boxing: will destroy this overrated Hatton :(

Sure he is, he's afraid of Mayweather. Mayweather :boxing: will destroy this overrated Hatton :(I agree 100%. Mayweather is my favorite boxer. I bet if he tried he could beat Vitaly Klitchsko.

A lot of fighters from overseas dont like coming here. See the boxing community over their is VERY bias and the locals always gets the nod. Also the refs are WAAAAAAAY more lenient. A lot of fighters like Hatton/Valuev use dirty tactics such as rabbit punching and get away with it.

Euro fighters are dirty fighters, I dont think a fighter like that would do very well if he fought his whole career in the states.

A lot of fighters like Hatton/Valuev use dirty tactics such as rabbit punching and get away with it.

Euro fighters are dirty fighters, I dont think a fighter like that would do very well if he fought his whole career in the states.
Why do you say that? Bernard Hopkins has done pretty well for himself.

A lot of fighters from overseas dont like coming here. See the boxing community over their is VERY bias and the locals always gets the nod. Also the refs are WAAAAAAAY more lenient. A lot of fighters like Hatton/Valuev use dirty tactics such as rabbit punching and get away with it.

Euro fighters are dirty fighters, I dont think a fighter like that would do very well if he fought his whole career in the states.


That makes me laugh that! The US IS the place to make your name. But nowhere has more crooked judges than the States! Maybe Germany's got something to say about that?
But Hatton will walk through Floyd! Dont get me wrong, i'm a Floyd fan, and i wouldnt put my money on it? But with all his skills, i couldnt see him hurting Hatton. Lets face it, he cant hit as hard as Zoo? And he took his best!

I just saw Hatton in the audience at the Mayweather fight, while watching it in glorious HTDV widescreen 5.1 dolby digital!
I was really surprised because I didn't expect him to EVER leave England.
I don't know who I would want to win between Floyd and Ricky.
Pound for pound, the 2 most exciting fighters I've ever seen.
What a demolition Floyd did on Gatti (time to retire?!).

That makes me laugh that! The US IS the place to make your name. But nowhere has more crooked judges than the States! Maybe Germany's got something to say about that?
But Hatton will walk through Floyd! Dont get me wrong, i'm a Floyd fan, and i wouldnt put my money on it? But with all his skills, i couldnt see him hurting Hatton. Lets face it, he cant hit as hard as Zoo? And he took his best!


No Hatton didnt take his best, Tszyu cant fire inside and has never really fought inside. Tszyu might be great but he had his flaws, all of his victims tried to beat him at his own game and tried to box him. YOU DONT F'N BOX TSZYU! so Tszyu would load up his right hand and when you would throw a punch he would land it and crush a fighter. That is how Tszyu always fought, on the outside loading up his right hand. Never has Tszyu went inside for a long period of time.

I will give Hatton credit but he certainly never tasted one of Tszyu's right hands at a distance. I applaud him for that because he didnt have to and threw him off of his game.

Hatton vs Mayweather would be one hell of a fight and I could see it going into a series of fights like Robinson vs Lamotta.

Yeah! Shame for Gatti to go out like that! He says he's going to have one more go at 147, but i agree he should call it a day!

That makes me laugh that! The US IS the place to make your name. But nowhere has more crooked judges than the States! Maybe Germany's got something to say about that?
But Hatton will walk through Floyd! Dont get me wrong, i'm a Floyd fan, and i wouldnt put my money on it? But with all his skills, i couldnt see him hurting Hatton. Lets face it, he cant hit as hard as Zoo? And he took his best!


Yeah, the judges may be crooked but at least you have some protection in the ring from foul tactics. Remember what happened in Europe to Gerald McClellan? Nigel Benn fought with his head all night long. Or let us look at some other fights like the Calzaghe fight were he was knocked down by brewer then he knocked brewer down and they stopped the fight. Or how about this one? Valuev kept on hitting behind the head and guess what? when he complained about it the ref stopped the fight. When Roberto Duran fought Ken Buchanan he was losing on scorecards even though he was destroying buchanan. So dont think that we are the only place that has crooked judges. In Europe not only are the judges crooked but the fighters have to fight a street fight in the ring where the opponent gets to hit low, headbutt, bite, use a chair, jump off the ropes or whatever else they want to. The refs are simply there to get some airtime on telivision. Remember boxing as stated by the "marquez of quensburry boxing rules" as well as the many sanctioning organizations explicitly have rules stating which tactics are illegal and which are not. This is boxing not ultimate fighting or WCW or ECW. Some of the tactics that are allowed in the ring in Europe are disgracefull, and no matter what you all feel Hatton actually partially used John Ruiz Tactics to win the fight. Fighting dirty and holding. Yes Tszyu did some holding too but not like Ricky did. In the states such things would be disallowed and after the fight is over even if the judges have it wrong at least the fighter can go back home and fight again or for that matter still walk out on his own two feet (Sometimes after being woken up lol) Incedents like the MClellan incedent could have been avoided altogether had the ref actually even been at the fight. Ben used his headbutt attack all night and everyone knows that headbutts, elbows, and knees are devestating and that is why they are illegal. (After watching European fights though one would be lead to believe that these tactics are not)

No Hatton didnt take his best, Tszyu cant fire inside and has never really fought inside. Tszyu might be great but he had his flaws, all of his victims tried to beat him at his own game and tried to box him. YOU DONT F'N BOX TSZYU! so Tszyu would load up his right hand and when you would throw a punch he would land it and crush a fighter. That is how Tszyu always fought, on the outside loading up his right hand. Never has Tszyu went inside for a long period of time.

I will give Hatton credit but he certainly never tasted one of Tszyu's right hands at a distance. I applaud him for that because he didnt have to and threw him off of his game.

Hatton vs Mayweather would be one hell of a fight and I could see it going into a series of fights like Robinson vs Lamotta.



Yeah! I'm sure we'll all be rubbing our hands when that one's finalised! Regardless of our opinions, Floyds never fought someone like Hatton, and vise-verser. Leonard vs Duran i reckon!

Yeah, the judges may be crooked but at least you have some protection in the ring from foul tactics. Remember what happened in Europe to Gerald McClellan? Nigel Benn fought with his head all night long. Or let us look at some other fights like the Calzaghe fight were he was knocked down by brewer then he knocked brewer down and they stopped the fight. Or how about this one? Valuev kept on hitting behind the head and guess what? when he complained about it the ref stopped the fight. When Roberto Duran fought Ken Buchanan he was losing on scorecards even though he was destroying buchanan. So dont think that we are the only place that has crooked judges. In Europe not only are the judges crooked but the fighters have to fight a street fight in the ring where the opponent gets to hit low, headbutt, bite, use a chair, jump off the ropes or whatever else they want to. The refs are simply there to get some airtime on telivision. Remember boxing as stated by the "marquez of quensburry boxing rules" as well as the many sanctioning organizations explicitly have rules stating which tactics are illegal and which are not. This is boxing not ultimate fighting or WCW or ECW. Some of the tactics that are allowed in the ring in Europe are disgracefull, and no matter what you all feel Hatton actually partially used John Ruiz Tactics to win the fight. Fighting dirty and holding. Yes Tszyu did some holding too but not like Ricky did. In the states such things would be disallowed and after the fight is over even if the judges have it wrong at least the fighter can go back home and fight again or for that matter still walk out on his own two feet (Sometimes after being woken up lol) Incedents like the MClellan incedent could have been avoided altogether had the ref actually even been at the fight. Ben used his headbutt attack all night and everyone knows that headbutts, elbows, and knees are devestating and that is why they are illegal. (After watching European fights though one would be lead to believe that these tactics are not)


Your aguing what the rest of the world knows as fact pal!
But regards to the Hatton holding? Did you just watch highlights? Or we're talking all the way through the fight and not paying much notice? Just after every attempted left hand body shot Ricky threw, Kostya would grab and keep hold of the arm. It happened all the way through!

Anyway, we've had the Hatton Tszyu one ages ago like!

Your aguing what the rest of the world knows as fact pal!
But regards to the Hatton holding? Did you just watch highlights? Or we're talking all the way through the fight and not paying much notice? Just after every attempted left hand body shot Ricky threw, Kostya would grab and keep hold of the arm. It happened all the way through!


Read son! I also said Tszyu did some holding too. The fight overall was very dirty and neither fighter should have been allowed to use the dirty tactics that they did. the low blows the rabbit puunching and everything else that went on. Howeer hatton seemed to be the more dirt of the two that night. (dirt on both sides)

Whether or not Hatton needs to come to America depends on a couple things...he needs to come to America IF:

1) He wants to get 3 times the exposure.

2) He wants to get more respect.

Tszyu came to England to fight him, Hatton would be smart to come to America and fight top 140 lbers like Floyd. The U.S. has many neutral sites like Vegas, Atlantic City, and Madison Square Garden. Normally you don't get robbed in America because you are foreign, it happens because the judges suck or because Don King wants a certain fighter to win. In this case it would NOT matter because King doesn't own Floyd, and Floyd and Hatton won't be fighting in Michigan (Floyd's hometown) if and when they do fight.

I don't believe for a minute that he is afraid. But, he might develop some fear after fghting Stateside, with an impartial ref and a top-tier opponent.

I don't believe for a minute that he is afraid. But, he might develop some fear after fghting Stateside, with an impartial ref and a top-tier opponent.


He isnt afraid he is just a ***** like all of the other fighters that are promoted by Warren. Warren is afraid as hell to bring his fighters to america.

Hatton has already fought at Madison Square Garden earlier in his career, by the way. Give the boy a chance, he has only just won the world title in his last fight last month!

The reason that a lot of European fighters stay in Europe is because THERE IS MORE MONEY TO BE MADE. Boxing was huge in England and Germany when you had Benn/Eubank/Watson and Rocchigiani/Maske/Michalczewski. Hatton makes more money in Manchester than he would in America. When John Scully(member of this forum) went over to Germany to fight Rocchigiani, Rocky made $1million, but had the fight taken place in America he'd of only made $40,000. Chris Eubank made £10million($15-20million) in a year with his Sky Sports deal, the most that Don King could offer him at the time was $3million for three fights in Las Vegas (Liles, Nunn, then McClellan at 160), so using his common sense Eubank chose the Sky option. Eubank made £1million for the Benn re-match, James Toney was shouting his mouth off that Eubank was scared of him, but Eubank would of only made $500,000 had he fought Toney in America for Bob Arum, so Eubank chose to fight for Don King instead and fight for Benn's WBC title instead of Toney's IBF (and make a tonne more money in the process!). Michael Watson was offered the chance, in 1989, to fly to Boston and fight Steve Collins for the vacant European title. But Watson was offered tonnes more money to stay in England and fight Benn for the Commonwealth title instead. See what I mean?

Is he afraid of flying? I had a friend who was afraid of flying. He is a male stripper and he works jobs on both coasts of the US. The first time he got on an airplane, he started hyperventilating until he passed out from lack of oxygen. Unfortunately for him there was a serial rapist sitting in the seat next to him, and he was taken advantage of while he was unconcious. When the plane landed his underwear was on backwards and his shirt was unbuttoned. So now he has to take the bus whenever he tours the west coast.

So did something like this happen to Ricky or can't he afford a ticket? What do you guys think?

Why fight in the US if you can earn twice as much in the UK?? He said he'd fight in the US again(he's already fought there twice) but it will be taken out of his hands because of money.

I dont see why it matters anyway, its about time US fighters have to fight outside the comfort zone.

for the same reason dale brown should've been afraid to leave canada

boxing is ****ed up...if a visitor wins by 2 or less rounds they give it to the loser...

thats kinda why it owns though

its controversial like lewinsky

Hey guys check this out. I found this from the internet. This guy makes alot of good point about the Hatton fight.


Boxing has a reputation of being a corrupt sport, but very rarely is the accusation made of a blatant fix. I am making this accusation after reviewing the fight and after the countless emails regarding this subject. Kostya Tszyu did not throw the fight, but the odds were intentionally stacked against him in more than one way. Hometown decisions are common in boxing and the referees who live in the area will support the local boxer at times…perhaps subconsciously. I contend that Dave Parris, the referee for Tszyu-Hatton title match was working directly with Hatton and I am going to dissect the fight and prove it to the people who are reading this now and saying: “My God, the Spunkman has gone crazy.”


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In boxing nowadays, fouls are often allowed and holding and grappling has become part of the game…hardly ever being penalized. The last referee who actually followed the rules of the game was Mills Lane, who actually disqualified Henry Akinwande for excessive holding against Lennox Lewis. Had one of the referees that are out there now officiated that contest, Akinwande would have probably been the champion.


Boxing has skeletons in the closet which is why Top Rank Inc. was investigated in 2004. Ritchie “The Bull” Melito was a New York City fighter who racked up a record of 27-1 (25 kayos), but at least seven of those victories were proven to be fixed fights. Tim “Doc” Anderson is a fighter who murdered his manager Rick “Elvis” Parker for allegedly poisoning him before a fight with former NFL star Mark Gastineau. In their first encounter, Anderson defeated Gastineau and for the rematch, Anderson was allegedly approached by his manager and asked to throw the fight. When he refused, Anderson was poisoned. Gastineau for his part, was definitely involved in fixed fights…a complete hype machine that’s just building up the record to cash in on a real fight with a name boxer.


There have been other fighters such as George Foreman, Brian Neilson, Butterbean, and Randall “Tex” Cobb have all supposedly been involved in set ups. In 1977, Don King proposed an “American” tournament to feature the best fighters of the United States fighting each other for exposure. ABC was the network that agreed to air the tournament and it went on as planned. The only issue is the fact that many of the fighters in the tournament had falsified records and half of the participants didn’t belong in the competition to begin with. Don King had orchestrated this tournament to suit his own future by forcing the good fighters to sign with him, or they would not be included in the tourney. Ring Magazine’s top ten ranking was the “ticket into the tournament” but the magazine suffered a black eye when it was discovered that the rankings were bought. The tournament, thanks to Alex Wallau and an independent publicist “Flash Gordon,” was ceased before the conclusion.


Kostya Tszyu vs. Ricky Hatton took place on June 4th, 2005 in Manchester, England. Hatton would have the hometown advantage and had the fight gone to the scorecards, he would be the odds on favorite to take the decision. Even with the hometown advantage, most experts picked Tszyu to win the fight, but not too many people figured in the possibility of corruption which would end up costing “The Thunder from Down Under” his championship. Here is the breakdown of the fight:


ROUND ONE: The fight begins and it is obvious that the strategy for Hatton is to smother and wrestle Tszyu as much as possible. At 1:43 in round one, Hatton is clearly holding and hitting, and there is no warning given by David Parris. At 1:33, Ricky Hatton spins the champion around and hits him full force in the back of the head. Parris gives him a slight warning and allows it to continue. The entire round Ricky Hatton is leading with his head and fouling Tszyu without any consequence from Parris. The amazing point in this round is at the 30 second mark. You can dismiss every foul without penalty as incompetence on the part of the referee, but at the 30 second point in the fight, Hatton and Tszyu are in a clinch. Ricky Hatton clearly motions to the referee to break them apart and he does. The round concludes with some more head butting by Hatton.


ROUND TWO: At the beginning of the round, at the 2:36 mark, Hatton grabs Kostya and throws him into the ropes. David Parris warns both fighters to clean it up, ensuring that the warning would be a wash since he talked to both participants. There was more blatant holding and hitting by Hatton which was once again ignored by Parris. At the 1:22 mark in the round, Hatton has Tszyu pinned against the ropes and is bombing away. There is a lot of wrestling and mauling going on by Hatton as Kostya is pinned against the ropes. At the 45 second mark in the round, Tszyu puts Hatton on the ropes and it is immediately broken up. The round is concluded with more head first un-penalized brawling by the challenger.


ROUND THREE: This round is more of the same as Hatton employs his dirty tactics to increase his chances of victory. There is excessive holding and hitting in this round. At the 30 second mark of this round, a clinch is broken after a nod by Hatton to Parris. They seem to be working together.


ROUND FOUR: In this round, Hatton continues to head butt, hold and hit, and at the 45 second mark, he blatantly and maliciously low blows Tszyu during the break. Dave Parris doesn’t say a word. With 7 seconds remaining, Hatton lands a sucker punch and lands another one after the bell had rung. No warnings were issued.


ROUND FIVE: At the 2:38 mark of the round, Ricky Hatton uses the laces of the gloves to rake the face of the champion, only to get a slight warning. This round resembles the other, as Hatton constantly leads with his head, and grapples at every opportunity. At the end of the round, Hatton hits Tszyu with a shoulder, followed by a punch and Dave Parris once again doesn’t do a thing.


ROUND SIX: The foul fest continues as Hatton constantly holds and hits and uses his head as a battering ram against the face of Kostya Tszyu. Finally, Dave Parris gives a warning to Hatton, but it was an incredibly soft one. With 26 seconds remaining in the round, Hatton roughs up the champion…using his elbows as weapons.


ROUND SEVEN: Hatton begins the round using more rough house tactics, prompting the referee to warn both fighters! A warning is given to Hatton for more head butting, but no points are taken. A body shot, right on the belt puts Hatton on the canvas. Tszyu goes to the neutral corner and Parris walks over to Hatton to ask if it was a low blow or not. It appeared that he wasn’t making a call…he was asking Hatton what occurred instead and of course, Hatton claims a low blow.


ROUND EIGHT: The hug fest, head butt jamboree continues and Dave Parris has decided to assume the role of spectator instead of official. At the 1:49 second mark, Hatton unloads some vicious rabbit punches on the champion and gets away with it. With 48 seconds remaining, Kostya maneuvered the challenger to the ropes. Hatton looks at the referee again to signal a break, and it is obliged. At the end of the round, the two fighters get tangled and Hatton falls to the canvas. Parris immediately warned Tszyu.


ROUND NINE: Hatton puts weight on Tszyu’s neck, holding and hitting and putting him in a headlock at the 2:26 mark of the round. With 2:13 seconds remaining, Hatton blatantly hits on the break without penalty. He continues to lead with his head and at the 52 second mark, he once again signals to the referee to break a clinch and Parris obeys. At the end of the round, Tszyu hits Hatton with some punches on the belt line, prompting a warning by the referee. When the action resumes, Hatton unloads a vicious low blow which took everything out of the champion. Another group warning was given and the fight resumed.


ROUND TEN: At the 2:47 mark of the round, Hatton hits Kostya Tszyu with another hard rabbit punch. Hatton continues to low blow, head butt, and wrestle his way to the championship. In this round, Hatton continually pushes on the champion’s neck and hits him in the process. With 1:02 remaining, Hatton visibly tries to lace the champion again and proceeds to hit on the break. With 13 seconds remaining, Hatton pushes Tszyu on the back of the head as the referee broke the clinch.


ROUND ELEVEN: Round eleven was like many of the others with Dave Parris ignoring all of Ricky Hatton’s illegal tactics. The wrestling, mauling, head butting, rabbit punching, and bias officiating was too much for Tszyu, making this the last round of the fight. Ricky Hatton walks away with the title as Tszyu’s corner doesn’t allow their man out for another round.


Ricky Hatton is now the Light Welterweight Champion of the world, but what should happen regarding the events of his title winning effort? I think that Dave Parris needs to be investigated considering his officiating in this fight and his quick stoppage of Calzaghe-Mitchell. There is no question in my mind that Parris favors British fighters and the scary thing is that it may even go farther then that. I hope that the IBF will take another look at the fight between Hatton and Tszyu and draw their own conclusions. Boxing can be a dirty and corrupt sport, but that doesn’t mean that we have to accept it. We have this crime on tape, and that should get Kostya a rematch in a country that will give him a fair shake, with a referee that has actually read the rule book and isn’t prone to subjective officiating.

Hatton has already fought at Madison Square Garden earlier in his career, by the way. Give the boy a chance, he has only just won the world title in his last fight last month!

The reason that a lot of European fighters stay in Europe is because THERE IS MORE MONEY TO BE MADE. Boxing was huge in England and Germany when you had Benn/Eubank/Watson and Rocchigiani/Maske/Michalczewski. Hatton makes more money in Manchester than he would in America. When John Scully(member of this forum) went over to Germany to fight Rocchigiani, Rocky made $1million, but had the fight taken place in America he'd of only made $40,000. Chris Eubank made £10million($15-20million) in a year with his Sky Sports deal, the most that Don King could offer him at the time was $3million for three fights in Las Vegas (Liles, Nunn, then McClellan at 160), so using his common sense Eubank chose the Sky option. Eubank made £1million for the Benn re-match, James Toney was shouting his mouth off that Eubank was scared of him, but Eubank would of only made $500,000 had he fought Toney in America for Bob Arum, so Eubank chose to fight for Don King instead and fight for Benn's WBC title instead of Toney's IBF (and make a tonne more money in the process!). Michael Watson was offered the chance, in 1989, to fly to Boston and fight Steve Collins for the vacant European title. But Watson was offered tonnes more money to stay in England and fight Benn for the Commonwealth title instead. See what I mean?


Point taken, boxing isnt some little pillow fight. If I was going to get into the ring and fight with the danger of the sport I would chase the money to look out for my own security. I just wish boxing wasnt as ****ed up as it is and fighters wouldnt have to fear going overseas to fight. If fighters were not afraid we would probably have a lot of different champions and our top 10 lists would most likely change drastically as well.

Thats just bull****, Hatton vs Tszyu wasnt fixed, having an obvious Tszyu fan break down a fight isnt proof that it was fixed. If a Hatton fan did the same thing he could find many rough housing tricks that Tszyu did.

As Hatton put it "its boxing, not a tickling contest"

Anyone who thinks Hatton vs Tszyu was a dirty fight isnt a real boxing fan, but more importantly they need to man up and stop being a *****.

Thats just bull****, Hatton vs Tszyu wasnt fixed, having an obvious Tszyu fan break down a fight isnt proof that it was fixed. If a Hatton fan did the same thing he could find many rough housing tricks that Tszyu did.

As Hatton put it "its boxing, not a tickling contest"

Anyone who thinks Hatton vs Tszyu was a dirty fight isnt a real boxing fan, but more importantly they need to man up and stop being a *****.


I thought both fighters fought dirty and the ref seemed not to care. Hatton knocked Tszyu off of his plan and I applaud him for that but the constant rabbit punching and low blows pissed me off that no action was taking.

Nigel Gregory Benn and Sir Richard Hatton... Cheats! :D

http://www.rickyhitmanhatton.com/forum/attachments/rickyhattonandnigelbenn.jpg

Look, their smiling at you because they know that they cheated and there's not a thing you can do about it :p They are cheats :D

He isnt afraid he is just a ***** like all of the other fighters that are promoted by Warren. Warren is afraid as hell to bring his fighters to america.
**** that is like the first time i have heard you say anthing derogatory about anyone in this way lol. I mean usually u back it up with facts, this was just a character assassination though.

Warren aint afraid of bringing his fighters over to America, as he has done this before so whats that about. One example being Naseem Hamed who fought lots of his last matches in America, but got his an base and rep. from the UK.

America is overated as a venue for holding boxing matches i think. I mean you lot might think he will get more respect from coming over the pond but in fact he wont. He has gained world noteriety from fighting Tszyu and beating him. Look at all you lot now for example, *****ing everyday about how he wont fight in America (even though he previously has during his pro career).

And why would Warren be afraid of bringing his fighters over to America, its not a task to do this. I mean there are no temperature differences really (not on the scale of some of Ali's fights in Egypt for example). Nevertheless Warren has announced that he is bringing Hatton and i think some other fighters over to America to shut you lot up.

Hatton will beat Mayweather and Cotto (if he is a target?) anyday.

Oh yeah another thing i wanted to mention about all of these threads is that they are symptomatic of people who are in a state of denial.

Sigmund Freud (respected psychologist) described a defence mechanism of "denial" for people who are so shocked by an event or they witness something that they didnt want to happen.

You lot are all in a state of denial. You say Hatton cheated but this is just a way of putting your mind at ease cos ur favourite fighter lost, or someone that you put ur boxing knowledge on to win. He lost and now u make excuses. What will you be saying when Hatton beats Mayweather.

"Erm he needs to go to Japan, cos lets face it, he hasnt fought there and he would get mega respect there" -- OR maybe

"Erm Mayweather had an off day, you know a bad nights sleep, any other day of the week Hatton would have got taken out" -- Or even

"Erm even though he only threw 2 illegal punches in retaliation (like the Tszyu fight) he is a dirty cheating ***** and Mayweather would have beaten him. Actually ive just realised i cant sya this cos i reckon that America has the best referees and so this excuse isnt valid".

You lot are just pissed that Tszyu lost. Hatton will clean up trust me.

Warren aint afraid of bringing his fighters over to America, as he has done this before so whats that about.

So? Who has he brought over here? His big fighters? Calzaghe...no. Hatton...no. You can talk all day about Hatton fighting VERY early in his career here, but that meant nothing. He wasn't even known at all back then, buddy. Hamed fought in America a long time ago...

America is overated as a venue for holding boxing matches i think. I mean you lot might think he will get more respect from coming over the pond but in fact he wont. He has gained world noteriety from fighting Tszyu and beating him. Look at all you lot now for example, *****ing everyday about how he wont fight in America

No, it's not overrated. You simply just don't understand the value of it. Hatton does and has said so. Get on the boat. Hatton will getg more respect if he comes over here, the same as Tszyu got even more respect by facing Hatton in his own hometown. Also, no, Hatton has not ganed world-wide recognition from beating Tszyu. Since when? He's just increased his popularity a bit in Europe and the U.S., but fighting and beating Floyd in the U.S. would make his popularity increase 3 times. No one is *****ing about anything, if Hatton doesn't fight here that's his problem.

And why would Warren be afraid of bringing his fighters over to America, its not a task to do this. I mean there are no temperature differences really (not on the scale of some of Ali's fights in Egypt for example). Nevertheless Warren has announced that he is bringing Hatton and i think some other fighters over to America to shut you lot up.

For you to say it would have to have something to do with the weather is indicative of your limited knowledge of boxing. There's a thing called politics, and money. Mainly money. Warren gets more money and a bigger split of the money in the U.K. Also he can choose refs and judges over there...duh, wake up dude.
Warren hasn't done **** yet, so we'll see if he brings them to America. If he does, it's not to shut anyone up, it's to get more people talking...about Hatton. If Warren says he is bringing Hatton here and does, then that all the more proves that the U.S. is not overrated as a boxing venue. If you believe that you need to wake up because you are dreaming.

**** that is like the first time i have heard you say anthing derogatory about anyone in this way lol. I mean usually u back it up with facts, this was just a character assassination though.

Warren aint afraid of bringing his fighters over to America, as he has done this before so whats that about. One example being Naseem Hamed who fought lots of his last matches in America, but got his an base and rep. from the UK.

America is overated as a venue for holding boxing matches i think. I mean you lot might think he will get more respect from coming over the pond but in fact he wont. He has gained world noteriety from fighting Tszyu and beating him. Look at all you lot now for example, *****ing everyday about how he wont fight in America (even though he previously has during his pro career).

And why would Warren be afraid of bringing his fighters over to America, its not a task to do this. I mean there are no temperature differences really (not on the scale of some of Ali's fights in Egypt for example). Nevertheless Warren has announced that he is bringing Hatton and i think some other fighters over to America to shut you lot up.

Hatton will beat Mayweather and Cotto (if he is a target?) anyday.


Wareen will NEVER bring his meal tickets to the U.S. unless he absolutely has to. Naseem had to come to american to fight because the people was pissing and moaning about not stepping it up. They got sick and tired of it.

I will never trash a fighter without good reason but Warren is one of the worst promoters EVER, I think he is worst than Don King personally. But in a sense he is good he protects his fighters but deprives the fans of giving them what they want.

With the Tszyu fight, Tszyu had fans spread out but had no official territory he always came to the other fighters backyards.

On a side note, I hate Kostya Tszyu he is a one dimensional boxer who loads up his right hand to connect. Every fight Tszyu did this he would throw some shots back up and load the right hand when the opponent was coming in. Good for him because it worked and fighters tried to box him. But I hate his style, he used the same technique over and over and people had taken note of this and Hatton came in charging. Hatton's style was taylor made against Tszyu, Tszyu HARDLY ever fought in the inside.

Oh yeah another thing i wanted to mention about all of these threads is that they are symptomatic of people who are in a state of denial.

Sigmund Freud (respected psychologist) described a defence mechanism of "denial" for people who are so shocked by an event or they witness something that they didnt want to happen.

You lot are all in a state of denial. You say Hatton cheated but this is just a way of putting your mind at ease cos ur favourite fighter lost, or someone that you put ur boxing knowledge on to win. He lost and now u make excuses. What will you be saying when Hatton beats Mayweather.

"Erm he needs to go to Japan, cos lets face it, he hasnt fought there and he would get mega respect there" -- OR maybe

"Erm Mayweather had an off day, you know a bad nights sleep, any other day of the week Hatton would have got taken out" -- Or even

"Erm even though he only threw 2 illegal punches in retaliation (like the Tszyu fight) he is a dirty cheating ***** and Mayweather would have beaten him. Actually ive just realised i cant sya this cos i reckon that America has the best referees and so this excuse isnt valid".

You lot are just pissed that Tszyu lost. Hatton will clean up trust me.
Nothing to do with Tszyu losing. They are more pissed that a UK fighter won, it's about nationality. America cannot stand the fact that they speak ENGLISH, that boxing started in ENGLAND, that Per Capita it's the UK that leaves the US in the dark, that the UK is about 100,000 times smaller than the US yet we often produce some better boxers than they have, etc.

How about Floyd Mayweather comes over to the UK?

What your spouting is a hypocritical view based on your dilluded opinions.

Mayweather has never fought outside of the USA, in fact he has barely fought outside of his hometown. He has, but not much. How bout he ****ing gets on a plane. Or is he scared of flying, as the orignal poster suggested.

Frank Warren is an awesome promotor! He helped make a lot of fighters multi-millionaires such as Benn, Eubank, Collins, Bruno, Hamed, and now Hatton. Warren has got the timing right time and time again - he got Benn his WBC title shot(which he won, great timing), we can thank him for Benn-Eubank II(great timing, he was the 'middle man' between Don King and Barry Hearn), we can thank him for Benn-McClellan(great timing, Benn's career-defining fight thanks to Warren), he got Bruno his WBC title shot(which he won, great timing), he got Hamed his fights at the right times (Robinson, Johnson, Kelley), he generated big interest into the Benn-Collins fights, he got Hatton his big fight against Tszyu(which he won, great timing!). Frank is a very good promotor.

Nothing to do with Tszyu losing. They are more pissed that a UK fighter won, it's about nationality. America cannot stand the fact that they speak ENGLISH, that boxing started in ENGLAND, that Per Capita it's the UK that leaves the US in the dark, that the UK is about 100,000 times smaller than the US yet we often produce some better boxers than they have, etc.
And JUY sounds like he's still angry about those "English Traitors" being respectfully referred to as "American Patriots".

How about Floyd Mayweather comes over to the UK?

What your spouting is a hypocritical view based on your dilluded opinions.

Mayweather has never fought outside of the USA, in fact he has barely fought outside of his hometown. He has, but not much. How bout he ****ing gets on a plane. Or is he scared of flying, as the orignal poster suggested.


Floyd has had 5 fights in his hometown state out of 34 fights.

29 fights out of your hometown isnt much thats a lot.

Roy Jones was petrified to leave Pensacola, I know it's abit random bringing Jones up but FFS here's a quote from a Jones Jr interview..

Jones Jr when asked why he rarely fights outside of Pensacola, and asked to fight at Madison Square Garden..
Jones: "Well, you know you go to MSG, try to go to a fight and a hockey game might break out, you know -- you never can tell what might happen at MSG. (LAUGHTER) I don't mind going to MSG to fight, it's just that when I went last time, it was cold and they don't understand that I'm from the South. I'm not used to cold, I watch a movie on TV and it start snowing and my sinuses start running, you know? (LAUGHTER) They kind of gave me a hard time about that, but my job is, there again, to make sure that when Roy goes to fight, that Roy's in the best health for Roy's sake. Because if Roy's injured they're not going to come back and say well, we knew he'd get sick in the cold. He'll probably lose in MSG, that's it." What a ****ing *****!!
Here: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37055

Roy Jones was petrified to leave Pensacola, I know it's abit random bringing Jones up but FFS here's a quote from a Jones Jr interview..

Jones Jr when asked why he rarely fights outside of Pensacola, and asked to fight at Madison Square Garden..
Jones: "Well, you know you go to MSG, try to go to a fight and a hockey game might break out, you know -- you never can tell what might happen at MSG. (LAUGHTER) I don't mind going to MSG to fight, it's just that when I went last time, it was cold and they don't understand that I'm from the South. I'm not used to cold, I watch a movie on TV and it start snowing and my sinuses start running, you know? (LAUGHTER) They kind of gave me a hard time about that, but my job is, there again, to make sure that when Roy goes to fight, that Roy's in the best health for Roy's sake. Because if Roy's injured they're not going to come back and say well, we knew he'd get sick in the cold. He'll probably lose in MSG, that's it." What a ****ing *****!!
Here: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37055


...He hasn't fought in Pensacola in nearly 6 years. ???

...He hasn't fought in Pensacola in nearly 6 years. ???
Well he used to be a ***** too scared to leave Pensacola, for the first 10 years of his career.

Frank Warren is an awesome promotor! He helped make a lot of fighters multi-millionaires such as Benn, Eubank, Collins, Bruno, Hamed, and now Hatton. Warren has got the timing right time and time again - he got Benn his WBC title shot(which he won, great timing), we can thank him for Benn-Eubank II(great timing, he was the 'middle man' between Don King and Barry Hearn), we can thank him for Benn-McClellan(great timing, Benn's career-defining fight thanks to Warren), he got Bruno his WBC title shot(which he won, great timing), he got Hamed his fights at the right times (Robinson, Johnson, Kelley), he generated big interest into the Benn-Collins fights, he got Hatton his big fight against Tszyu(which he won, great timing!). Frank is a very good promotor.
Also, it's not Frank's fault that Jones Jr and Hopkins were too scared to fight Calzaghe.. Warren came up with the $$$ but the guys didn't want to share a ring with Joe (I don't blame them!).

Roy Jones was petrified to leave Pensacola, I know it's abit random bringing Jones up but FFS here's a quote from a Jones Jr interview..

Jones Jr when asked why he rarely fights outside of Pensacola, and asked to fight at Madison Square Garden..
Jones: "Well, you know you go to MSG, try to go to a fight and a hockey game might break out, you know -- you never can tell what might happen at MSG. (LAUGHTER) I don't mind going to MSG to fight, it's just that when I went last time, it was cold and they don't understand that I'm from the South. I'm not used to cold, I watch a movie on TV and it start snowing and my sinuses start running, you know? (LAUGHTER) They kind of gave me a hard time about that, but my job is, there again, to make sure that when Roy goes to fight, that Roy's in the best health for Roy's sake. Because if Roy's injured they're not going to come back and say well, we knew he'd get sick in the cold. He'll probably lose in MSG, that's it." What a ****ing *****!!
Here: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37055


A *****? How so? He is looking out for his best interests as any boxer should. You act as if it isnt a hurt sport, I know I wouldnt get in the ring if I didnt feel confident and 100%.

why is ricky hatton afraid to leave england...all you have to do is watch the tszyu fight a second time. watch it in slowmo at critical points. watch hatton use his head and rabbit punches.watch hatton give his boy parris the nod when he wanted him to break them up when tszyu was getting the best of him on the inside. all the fouls by hatton .

hatton couldnt have won without his boy toy parris. just look at the fight again.

he will have to stay in england to keep his belts.

Nothing to do with Tszyu losing. They are more pissed that a UK fighter won, it's about nationality. America cannot stand the fact that they speak ENGLISH, that boxing started in ENGLAND, that Per Capita it's the UK that leaves the US in the dark, that the UK is about 100,000 times smaller than the US yet we often produce some better boxers than they have, etc.Hey Dude, Don't be an idiot, most of the great boxers in the history is American, so don't say stupid thing like this. How many great fighters have UK produced in 100 years. As for Hatton this guy is getting way overrated, he hasn't shown me ****. Floyd Mayweather Jr, Miguel Cotto, Diego Corrales, Jose Luis Castillo, Manny Pacquiao, Erik Morales & Marco Antonio Barrera will destroy Mr. Overrated. Some of these guys need to come up 5 to 10 pound to destroy Mr. Overrated. If Mr. Hatton fights any of these 7 fighters he will lose. :mad:

Hey Dude, Don't be an idiot, most of the great boxers in the history is American, so don't say stupid thing like this. How many great fighters have UK have produced in like 100 years. As for Hatton this guy is getting way overrated, he hasn't shown me ****. Floyd Mayweather Jr, Miguel Cotto, Diego Corrales, Jose Luis Castillo, Manny Pacquiao, Erik Morales & Marco Antonio Barrera will destroy Mr. Overrated. Some of these guys need to come up 5 to 10 pound to destroy Mr. Overrated. If Mr. Hatton fights any of these 7 fighters he will lose. :mad:


I never thought much of Hatton but you have to credit with him for defeating Tszyu, he has to be given credit and looked at as the true 140 pound champion though despite peoples feelings. He dethroned the king of that division. However, if he fights Mayweather his fire will fizzle and people will just say Tszyu was over his prime if Mayweather wins. Mayweather has been calling out Tszyu and once he lost he has mentioned Hatton and says we need to do this. If Hatton doesnt take this fight and fights Maussa instead then that says a lot about Hatton as a fighter and how he feels about his 140 kingpin status.

You can talk about bad descions and how is the champ all u want but no way Arum will let Floyd go to England. Hatton will foul Floyd to no end in route to a corrupt descion. Let Hatton bring his ass over hear Floyd can get big fights, so if he doesnt want to fight let him fight in England and be looked at as a bum.

You can talk about bad descions and how is the champ all u want but no way Arum will let Floyd go to England. Hatton will foul Floyd to no end in route to a corrupt descion. Let Hatton bring his ass over hear Floyd can get big fights, so if he doesnt want to fight let him fight in England and be looked at as a bum.I think Mayweather is so good, even if he goes to England to fight Hatton + the REF + the Judges, he will still destroy Mr. Hatton in 7 or 8 rounds. Hatton face will look worst then Gatti if they ever fight. Mayweather is a damn special boxer, you don't see guys like Mayweather every day. I want a be like Mike, no I mean Floyd. :cool:

You can talk about bad descions and how is the champ all u want but no way Arum will let Floyd go to England. Hatton will foul Floyd to no end in route to a corrupt descion. Let Hatton bring his ass over hear Floyd can get big fights, so if he doesnt want to fight let him fight in England and be looked at as a bum.
Maybe they should just make a rematch clause in the oppisite location, so if theres any doubt, they would beable to use it.

Hey Dude, Don't be an idiot, most of the great boxers in the history is American, so don't say stupid thing like this. How many great fighters have UK produced in 100 years. As for Hatton this guy is getting way overrated, he hasn't shown me ****. Floyd Mayweather Jr, Miguel Cotto, Diego Corrales, Jose Luis Castillo, Manny Pacquiao, Erik Morales & Marco Antonio Barrera will destroy Mr. Overrated. Some of these guys need to come up 5 to 10 pound to destroy Mr. Overrated. If Mr. Hatton fights any of these 7 fighters he will lose. :mad:
Ofcourse most of the 'great' fighters in history are American you idiot, because they wouldn't have it any other way! The boxing hall of fame is based in America, boxing is big in America, so the best American fighters will be remembered as the greats of the sport because America is the most powerful country in the world. But I'm talking about actual physical ability ;) You know, publicity is a lot different to physicality. It's been said "McCallum had the talent, but Leonard got the publicity". Hagler/Hearns avoiding Herol Graham like the ****ing plague between 1984 and 1986, for example. Ted 'Kid' Lewis beat all the greatest American fighters (Jack Britton, Mickey Walker, Benny Leonard) but will never be remembered because he's British.

The great European fighters have always been ducked by American's, you can't deny that.

You ask "How many great fighters have UK produced in 100 years", we have produced NONE who are great to American's, because unless your American you cannot be considered great in America. But we have produced plenty of great, great fighters thats for sure, and per capita it is a fact that the UK is most successful in the world of boxing.

Ofcourse most of the 'great' fighters in history are American you idiot, because they wouldn't have it any other way! The boxing hall of fame is based in America, boxing is big in America, so the best American fighters will be remembered as the greats of the sport because America is the most powerful country in the world. But I'm talking about actual physical ability ;) You know, publicity is a lot different to physicality. It's been said "McCallum had the talent, but Leonard got the publicity". Hagler/Hearns avoiding Herol Graham like the ****ing plague between 1984 and 1986, for example. Ted 'Kid' Lewis beat all the greatest American fighters (Jack Britton, Mickey Walker, Benny Leonard) but will never be remembered because he's British. The great European fighters have always been ducked by American's, you can't deny that.

You ask "How many great fighters have UK produced in 100 years", we have produced NONE who are great to American's, because unless your American you cannot be considered great in America. But we have produced plenty of great, great fighters thats for sure, and per capita it is a fact that the UK is most successful in the world of boxing.I guess you just proved to me & the whole world that you're an IDIOT. :confused:

I guess you just proved to me & the whole world that you're an IDIOT. :confused:
Why? Because I talk the truth?

Of course you can be considered, and remenbered as a great if your not American, but for that, you'd have to be Mexican :p

Floyd has had 5 fights in his hometown state out of 34 fights.

29 fights out of your hometown isnt much thats a lot.
That didnt answer my point.

That didnt answer my point.


Somewhat, Floyd doesnt have to go overseas to make a name for himself and be recognized as great. Hatton needs Floyd more than Floyd needs Hatton. Everybody knows if you want to be big time you have to fight in the U.S. :D

Sure he is, he's afraid of Mayweather. Mayweather :boxing: will destroy this overrated Hatton :(

i think you could be rite, but hatton is a strong force, i mean take a look at prince naseem hameds boxing? well where is he? he lost his first fight outside of the UK, and he stopped,

i mean take a look at prince naseem hameds boxing? well where is he? he lost his first fight outside of the UK, and he stopped,
That's news to me. Hamed had already fought in America four or five times before he lost to Barrera. And he carried on fighting after Barrera, too.

To be honest Im glad that Eubank/Watson didnt go to America,and Im glad that Benn came back to England.Because the domestic dustups we had were awesome,thats why.Benn/Watson in 89,Benn/Eubank1 in 90,Eubank/Watson1&2 in 91,Benn/Eubank2 in 93,Eubank/Collins1&2 in 95,Benn/Collins1&2 in 96,Eubank/Thompson1&2 in 98,also Benn/McClennand in 95 in london.Those fights were some of the best fights I have ever seen,all of them were amazing fights and all of them were on english soil.Plus you had britains favorite son Bruno against Tyson1 in 89,Lewis in 93,McCall in 95,Tyson2 in 96.And Hamed coming up through the ranks from 92-95 before winning his world belt.

The one guy who deserves credit from americans though I suppose is Benn because afterall he did go to america in 89/90 and win five out of five fights on american soil,he won his world title in america and then beat Barkley in one round.

Nigel Benn?Great fighter.Most exciting fighter Ive seen.His wars against the likes of Eubank,Watson,DeWitt,Barkley,McClennand et al are the stuff of legend,he was the legend of ITV boxing and did ITV proud.

Good stuff PP :)

Yep we're very proud of Nigel, and Chris, they lit up our lives and it was something very special. We'll never forget it.

Eubank beating Benn in that classic clash in 1990 for the World Middleweight Championship
http://www.ukautographs.net/heroes/eubank2487.JPG

Frank Warren asks Who Is The ULTIMATE WARRIOR?

Steve Collins or Nigel Benn?

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:D great stuff

I thought both fighters fought dirty and the ref seemed not to care. Hatton knocked Tszyu off of his plan and I applaud him for that but the constant rabbit punching and low blows pissed me off that no action was taking.

It was a case of both fighters being a bit rougher than normal, if both guys are doing it and the ref doesnt think its too much then its all good. Its better when a ref lets the fight run without stopping and starting.

I remember when Hatton fought Magee, there was rough tatics allowed in that fight but it was Magee would was doing it all. A lot of pushing and shoving but i cant really complain because it made for an interesting fight, if he wasnt doing that Hatton would have won a lot easier so it made it more entertaining.

Boxing is War, not ****ing ballet.

Hatton fought the only way there is to beat Tszyu. I want Tszyu to fight Mayweather in Floyd's first defence. It would be a great fight and one I see Tszyu winning as long as the Hatton fight hasnt taken too much out of him. As someone said earlier, you cant box Tszyu, and Mayweather would be incapable of applying the kind of terrifying pressure Hatton can apply.

Is he afraid of flying? I had a friend who was afraid of flying. He is a male stripper and he works jobs on both coasts of the US. The first time he got on an airplane, he started hyperventilating until he passed out from lack of oxygen. Unfortunately for him there was a serial rapist sitting in the seat next to him, and he was taken advantage of while he was unconcious. When the plane landed his underwear was on backwards and his shirt was unbuttoned. So now he has to take the bus whenever he tours the west coast.

So did something like this happen to Ricky or can't he afford a ticket? What do you guys think?

Are you being sarcastic? I can't tell!

What has your stripper mate getting bummed on an airplane have to do with Ricky Hatton or boxing?

And by the way, is that a true story or did someone carry a passed out man to the airplane toilet, bugger him, put his underwear back on the wrong way round and bring him back to his seat? I'm guessing the didn't shag him the aisle!

Hatton fought the only way there is to beat Tszyu. I want Tszyu to fight Mayweather in Floyd's first defence. It would be a great fight and one I see Tszyu winning as long as the Hatton fight hasnt taken too much out of him. As someone said earlier, you cant box Tszyu, and Mayweather would be incapable of applying the kind of terrifying pressure Hatton can apply.
I too think Tszyu would beat Mayweather.

I too think Tszyu would beat Mayweather.

So do i but the lack of respect Hatton gets means US fans wont think the same.

So do i but the lack of respect Hatton gets means US fans wont think the same.
I remember this board before Tszyu-Hatton, Hatton didn't stand a single chance :)

Hatton is like Nassem Hamed who doesnt want to fight out of england...
because they feel they could beat anyone on their hometown even if they were knocked out by their opponents... sound crazy lets face it, winky wright experienced that when he fought in africa w/c he won, then the hometown crown and the officials told them that the judges changes their decision so the winner is the african fighter...

Its a great match Floyd and Hatton... but i will go for Floyd, Hatton emerges only when he beat the aging Tszyu who is injured... hatton never fought great fighters such as zab, mitchell, ward, castillo, gatti, corrales, cotto... but this match will be interesting...

I remember this board before Tszyu-Hatton, Hatton didn't stand a single chance :)

Outside of the UK, he would have been DQed in that fight for all that wrestling...

A lot of fighters from overseas dont like coming here. See the boxing community over their is VERY bias and the locals always gets the nod. Also the refs are WAAAAAAAY more lenient. A lot of fighters like Hatton/Valuev use dirty tactics such as rabbit punching and get away with it.

Euro fighters are dirty fighters, I dont think a fighter like that would do very well if he fought his whole career in the states.

What a load of ignorant ****ing horse****. So you've seen about three UK fights and you're an expert?

I was watching a US fight the other day with Paul Williams where he was rocking the guy's head back on his shoulders and it wasn't stopped.

And I see bull**** decisions all the time... Felix Sturm left "dirty Europe" to fight Oscar and got stiffed.

Xenophobic ill-informed bollocks.

I'm going to bump this, just because :chomp:

I remember this board before Tszyu-Hatton, Hatton didn't stand a single chance :)

some things never change:nonono:

chew On Thisissssss

lol

threadstarted confuses ricky with joe.

ricky's 2nd pro fight was in new york.

one of his 1st fights was in the garden silly

You suck for your bad mouthing of the HATT

He makes more $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Is he afraid of flying? I had a friend who was afraid of flying. He is a male stripper and he works jobs on both coasts of the US. The first time he got on an airplane, he started hyperventilating until he passed out from lack of oxygen. Unfortunately for him there was a serial rapist sitting in the seat next to him, and he was taken advantage of while he was unconcious. When the plane landed his underwear was on backwards and his shirt was unbuttoned. So now he has to take the bus whenever he tours the west coast.

So did something like this happen to Ricky or can't he afford a ticket? What do you guys think?
How times have changed

How times have changed

why the hell are u bumping all these old ass irrelevant threads!?

why the hell are u bumping all these old ass irrelevant threads!?
In analysing performance,trends and variances are looked at.No one gave Hatton a chance agaisnt Tsyu and no one gives him a chance against Tsyu.History will repeat itself