I think the other thread was deleted for posting another website, I apologize about that, forgot.


06/30/05 - Boxing has a reputation of being a corrupt sport, but very rarely is the accusation made of a blatant fix. I am making this accusation after reviewing the fight and after the countless emails regarding this subject. Kostya Tszyu did not throw the fight, but the odds were intentionally stacked against him in more than one way. Hometown decisions are common in boxing and the referees who live in the area will support the local boxer at times…perhaps subconsciously. I contend that Dave Parris, the referee for Tszyu-Hatton title match was working directly with Hatton and I am going to dissect the fight.


Kostya Tszyu vs. Ricky Hatton took place on June 4th, 2005 in Manchester, England. Hatton would have the hometown advantage and had the fight gone to the scorecards, he would be the odds on favorite to take the decision. Even with the hometown advantage, most experts picked Tszyu to win the fight, but not too many people figured in the possibility of corruption which would end up costing “The Thunder from Down Under” his championship. Here is the breakdown of the fight:

ROUND ONE: The fight begins and it is obvious that the strategy for Hatton is to smother and wrestle Tszyu as much as possible. At 1:43 in round one, Hatton is clearly holding and hitting, and there is no warning given by David Parris. At 1:33, Ricky Hatton spins the champion around and hits him full force in the back of the head. Parris gives him a slight warning and allows it to continue. The entire round Ricky Hatton is leading with his head and fouling Tszyu without any consequence from Parris. The amazing point in this round is at the 30 second mark. You can dismiss every foul without penalty as incompetence on the part of the referee, but at the 30 second point in the fight, Hatton and Tszyu are in a clinch. Ricky Hatton clearly motions to the referee to break them apart and he does. The round concludes with some more head butting by Hatton.

ROUND TWO: At the beginning of the round, at the 2:36 mark, Hatton grabs Kostya and throws him into the ropes. David Parris warns both fighters to clean it up, ensuring that the warning would be a wash since he talked to both participants. There was more blatant holding and hitting by Hatton which was once again ignored by Parris. At the 1:22 mark in the round, Hatton has Tszyu pinned against the ropes and is bombing away. There is a lot of wrestling and mauling going on by Hatton as Kostya is pinned against the ropes. At the 45 second mark in the round, Tszyu puts Hatton on the ropes and it is immediately broken up. The round is concluded with more head first un-penalized brawling by the challenger.

ROUND THREE: This round is more of the same as Hatton employs his dirty tactics to increase his chances of victory. There is excessive holding and hitting in this round. At the 30 second mark of this round, a clinch is broken after a nod by Hatton to Parris. They seem to be working together.

ROUND FOUR: In this round, Hatton continues to head butt, hold and hit, and at the 45 second mark, he blatantly and maliciously low blows Tszyu during the break. Dave Parris doesn’t say a word. With 7 seconds remaining, Hatton lands a sucker punch and lands another one after the bell had rung. No warnings were issued.

ROUND FIVE: At the 2:38 mark of the round, Ricky Hatton uses the laces of the gloves to rake the face of the champion, only to get a slight warning. This round resembles the other, as Hatton constantly leads with his head, and grapples at every opportunity. At the end of the round, Hatton hits Tszyu with a shoulder, followed by a punch and Dave Parris once again doesn’t do a thing.

ROUND SIX: The foul fest continues as Hatton constantly holds and hits and uses his head as a battering ram against the face of Kostya Tszyu. Finally, Dave Parris gives a warning to Hatton, but it was an incredibly soft one. With 26 seconds remaining in the round, Hatton roughs up the champion…using his elbows as weapons.

ROUND SEVEN: Hatton begins the round using more rough house tactics, prompting the referee to warn both fighters! A warning is given to Hatton for more head butting, but no points are taken. A body shot, right on the belt puts Hatton on the canvas. Tszyu goes to the neutral corner and Parris walks over to Hatton to ask if it was a low blow or not. It appeared that he wasn’t making a call…he was asking Hatton what occurred instead and of course, Hatton claims a low blow.

ROUND EIGHT: The hug fest, head butt jamboree continues and Dave Parris has decided to assume the role of spectator instead of official. At the 1:49 second mark, Hatton unloads some vicious rabbit punches on the champion and gets away with it. With 48 seconds remaining, Kostya maneuvered the challenger to the ropes. Hatton looks at the referee again to signal a break, and it is obliged. At the end of the round, the two fighters get tangled and Hatton falls to the canvas. Parris immediately warned Tszyu.

ROUND NINE: Hatton puts weight on Tszyu’s neck, holding and hitting and putting him in a headlock at the 2:26 mark of the round. With 2:13 seconds remaining, Hatton blatantly hits on the break without penalty. He continues to lead with his head and at the 52 second mark, he once again signals to the referee to break a clinch and Parris obeys. At the end of the round, Tszyu hits Hatton with some punches on the belt line, prompting a warning by the referee. When the action resumes, Hatton unloads a vicious low blow which took everything out of the champion. Another group warning was given and the fight resumed.

ROUND TEN: At the 2:47 mark of the round, Hatton hits Kostya Tszyu with another hard rabbit punch. Hatton continues to low blow, head butt, and wrestle his way to the championship. In this round, Hatton continually pushes on the champion’s neck and hits him in the process. With 1:02 remaining, Hatton visibly tries to lace the champion again and proceeds to hit on the break. With 13 seconds remaining, Hatton pushes Tszyu on the back of the head as the referee broke the clinch.

ROUND ELEVEN: Round eleven was like many of the others with Dave Parris ignoring all of Ricky Hatton’s illegal tactics. The wrestling, mauling, head butting, rabbit punching, and bias officiating was too much for Tszyu, making this the last round of the fight. Ricky Hatton walks away with the title as Tszyu’s corner doesn’t allow their man out for another round.

Ricky Hatton is now the Light Welterweight Champion of the world, but what should happen regarding the events of his title winning effort? I think that Dave Parris needs to be investigated considering his officiating in this fight and his quick stoppage of Calzaghe-Mitchell. There is no question in my mind that Parris favors British fighters and the scary thing is that it may even go farther then that. I hope that the IBF will take another look at the fight between Hatton and Tszyu and draw their own conclusions. Boxing can be a dirty and corrupt sport, but that doesn’t mean that we have to accept it. We have this crime on tape, and that should get Kostya a rematch in a country that will give him a fair shake, with a referee that has actually read the rule book and isn’t prone to subjective officiating.

Please dont hate on me for posting this, the whole "stop making excuses you nuthugger...blah blah blah". I never made excuses for my boy KT losing this fight, but read this, and watch the fight.

GODZ .... Got stuck in a traffic wreck on Wednesday here in Vancouver. So, pulled out the laptop and sat it out, watching Zoo-Hatton, twice.

First, those glances/knods are unmistakable as you say. They are not even subtle. It seems that Ricky doesn't even try to be covert, which could indicate a situation that has some history. The intimation is troubling, but, recall that in most situations both fighters are not active and have agreed to slow it down, but it's Ricky who controls the break, with Parris' help. Imagine being able to control when you stay close, or, as you wish, when you reset. Not a small thing.

Add to your list an even more damning bit of body language .... Hatton tends to motion his gloves directly toward Parris, which is then followed by some action by the ref. Again, kind of bold for Hatton and Parris to assume these roles on camera. But it's there.

What does it mean? First, it suggests an unfair fight and would precipitate a rematch as you say, on neutral ground. Let's hope that happens. It would definitely answer alot of questions about Ricky's apparent "need" for both the home crowd and a Brit ref.

Kostya fought with his own brand of rabbit shots, as we saw, in direct response to Hatton. Zoo also tended to give the back of Ricky's neck an extra shove downward, when Ricky came in low and Zoo's forearm would ride the back of his neck. But it wasn't ref sanctioned, I suppose.

Interesting that the MEN crowd did not really react when either Zoo or Haton were throwing those rabbit shots! It seems those punches are pretty much accepted by the UK boxing crowd? Embarrassing.

Firstly, do you not think that the Tszyu camp would be making noises if they felt that the fight went along the lines that you've suggested?

It was more a case of Hatton looking at the ref to appeal for the break when KT had his arms tied up and nodding his approval at the decision afterwards. Fighters appeal for the break all the time when they're tied up.

KT was first with the holding and hitting in the first round and with the low blows so it's hardly suprising that the ref let it go as both fighters seemed happy enough to play the game that way.

I'll concede that Hatton should have been pulled up for excessive use of the head although there was never any suggestion of a butt.

Your analysis sounds like you spent the whole fight watching solely what Hatton was doing and chose to disregard any of KT's discrepancies.

The ref was pretty even handed in what he chose to let go. You may have had some grounds for favouritism if the ref had been Mickey Vann but Parris has only ever done a couple of Hatton fights and is from the other end of the country.

You need to take a look at some of the performances by refs, judges and fighters in your own country before you start spurting out bile like this in public. Britain is historically too generous to visiting sports teams/stars in terms of not maximising the home advantage. I could spend a couple of hours typing out all the dubious happenings that have occurred in fights that I've seen that were held in the US.

I like conspiracy theories as much as the next guy but you're full of **** on this one. If it was as blatant as you suggest, it would have been investigated. Do you really think that Hatton has the kind of influence with the IBF that would make them sweep it under the carpet?

Meh. Tszyu got outworked by a younger, hungrier fighter. End of story.

Meh. Tszyu got outworked by a younger, hungrier fighter. End of story.

yes but tszyu will come back emphatically in the rematch. fought anywhere in the world, at any time!

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Thanks guys. Where do I nominate this for the funniest post ever.

Firstly, do you not think that the Tszyu camp would be making noises if they felt that the fight went along the lines that you've suggested?

It was more a case of Hatton looking at the ref to appeal for the break when KT had his arms tied up and nodding his approval at the decision afterwards. Fighters appeal for the break all the time when they're tied up.

KT was first with the holding and hitting in the first round and with the low blows so it's hardly suprising that the ref let it go as both fighters seemed happy enough to play the game that way.

I'll concede that Hatton should have been pulled up for excessive use of the head although there was never any suggestion of a butt.

Your analysis sounds like you spent the whole fight watching solely what Hatton was doing and chose to disregard any of KT's discrepancies.

The ref was pretty even handed in what he chose to let go. You may have had some grounds for favouritism if the ref had been Mickey Vann but Parris has only ever done a couple of Hatton fights and is from the other end of the country.

You need to take a look at some of the performances by refs, judges and fighters in your own country before you start spurting out bile like this in public. Britain is historically too generous to visiting sports teams/stars in terms of not maximising the home advantage. I could spend a couple of hours typing out all the dubious happenings that have occurred in fights that I've seen that were held in the US.

I like conspiracy theories as much as the next guy but you're full of **** on this one. If it was as blatant as you suggest, it would have been investigated. Do you really think that Hatton has the kind of influence with the IBF that would make them sweep it under the carpet?

I've got nothing more to add to what Frank has said. You make some good points, Godz, but as Frank rightly states, in order to have a real objective view of what went on you have to describe the fouls Zoo undertook as well.

It was a dirty, horrible, foul-filled fight - one of the reasons I'm not a big Hatton fan - but both were at it and both seemed happy. "Skinny" Parris had only refereed three of Hatton's previous 38 bouts, and looking at the ref to initiate a break is something ALL boxers do.

It's an interesting point, but I think it's more of a case of making the facts fit your point, rather than your point fitting the facts.


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I think the other thread was deleted for posting another website, I apologize about that, forgot.


06/30/05 - Boxing has a reputation of being a corrupt sport, but very rarely is the accusation made of a blatant fix. I am making this accusation after reviewing the fight and after the countless emails regarding this subject. Kostya Tszyu did not throw the fight, but the odds were intentionally stacked against him in more than one way. Hometown decisions are common in boxing and the referees who live in the area will support the local boxer at times…perhaps subconsciously. I contend that Dave Parris, the referee for Tszyu-Hatton title match was working directly with Hatton and I am going to dissect the fight.


Kostya Tszyu vs. Ricky Hatton took place on June 4th, 2005 in Manchester, England. Hatton would have the hometown advantage and had the fight gone to the scorecards, he would be the odds on favorite to take the decision. Even with the hometown advantage, most experts picked Tszyu to win the fight, but not too many people figured in the possibility of corruption which would end up costing “The Thunder from Down Under” his championship. Here is the breakdown of the fight:

ROUND ONE: The fight begins and it is obvious that the strategy for Hatton is to smother and wrestle Tszyu as much as possible. At 1:43 in round one, Hatton is clearly holding and hitting, and there is no warning given by David Parris. At 1:33, Ricky Hatton spins the champion around and hits him full force in the back of the head. Parris gives him a slight warning and allows it to continue. The entire round Ricky Hatton is leading with his head and fouling Tszyu without any consequence from Parris. The amazing point in this round is at the 30 second mark. You can dismiss every foul without penalty as incompetence on the part of the referee, but at the 30 second point in the fight, Hatton and Tszyu are in a clinch. Ricky Hatton clearly motions to the referee to break them apart and he does. The round concludes with some more head butting by Hatton.

ROUND TWO: At the beginning of the round, at the 2:36 mark, Hatton grabs Kostya and throws him into the ropes. David Parris warns both fighters to clean it up, ensuring that the warning would be a wash since he talked to both participants. There was more blatant holding and hitting by Hatton which was once again ignored by Parris. At the 1:22 mark in the round, Hatton has Tszyu pinned against the ropes and is bombing away. There is a lot of wrestling and mauling going on by Hatton as Kostya is pinned against the ropes. At the 45 second mark in the round, Tszyu puts Hatton on the ropes and it is immediately broken up. The round is concluded with more head first un-penalized brawling by the challenger.

ROUND THREE: This round is more of the same as Hatton employs his dirty tactics to increase his chances of victory. There is excessive holding and hitting in this round. At the 30 second mark of this round, a clinch is broken after a nod by Hatton to Parris. They seem to be working together.

ROUND FOUR: In this round, Hatton continues to head butt, hold and hit, and at the 45 second mark, he blatantly and maliciously low blows Tszyu during the break. Dave Parris doesn’t say a word. With 7 seconds remaining, Hatton lands a sucker punch and lands another one after the bell had rung. No warnings were issued.

ROUND FIVE: At the 2:38 mark of the round, Ricky Hatton uses the laces of the gloves to rake the face of the champion, only to get a slight warning. This round resembles the other, as Hatton constantly leads with his head, and grapples at every opportunity. At the end of the round, Hatton hits Tszyu with a shoulder, followed by a punch and Dave Parris once again doesn’t do a thing.

ROUND SIX: The foul fest continues as Hatton constantly holds and hits and uses his head as a battering ram against the face of Kostya Tszyu. Finally, Dave Parris gives a warning to Hatton, but it was an incredibly soft one. With 26 seconds remaining in the round, Hatton roughs up the champion…using his elbows as weapons.

ROUND SEVEN: Hatton begins the round using more rough house tactics, prompting the referee to warn both fighters! A warning is given to Hatton for more head butting, but no points are taken. A body shot, right on the belt puts Hatton on the canvas. Tszyu goes to the neutral corner and Parris walks over to Hatton to ask if it was a low blow or not. It appeared that he wasn’t making a call…he was asking Hatton what occurred instead and of course, Hatton claims a low blow.

ROUND EIGHT: The hug fest, head butt jamboree continues and Dave Parris has decided to assume the role of spectator instead of official. At the 1:49 second mark, Hatton unloads some vicious rabbit punches on the champion and gets away with it. With 48 seconds remaining, Kostya maneuvered the challenger to the ropes. Hatton looks at the referee again to signal a break, and it is obliged. At the end of the round, the two fighters get tangled and Hatton falls to the canvas. Parris immediately warned Tszyu.

ROUND NINE: Hatton puts weight on Tszyu’s neck, holding and hitting and putting him in a headlock at the 2:26 mark of the round. With 2:13 seconds remaining, Hatton blatantly hits on the break without penalty. He continues to lead with his head and at the 52 second mark, he once again signals to the referee to break a clinch and Parris obeys. At the end of the round, Tszyu hits Hatton with some punches on the belt line, prompting a warning by the referee. When the action resumes, Hatton unloads a vicious low blow which took everything out of the champion. Another group warning was given and the fight resumed.

ROUND TEN: At the 2:47 mark of the round, Hatton hits Kostya Tszyu with another hard rabbit punch. Hatton continues to low blow, head butt, and wrestle his way to the championship. In this round, Hatton continually pushes on the champion’s neck and hits him in the process. With 1:02 remaining, Hatton visibly tries to lace the champion again and proceeds to hit on the break. With 13 seconds remaining, Hatton pushes Tszyu on the back of the head as the referee broke the clinch.

ROUND ELEVEN: Round eleven was like many of the others with Dave Parris ignoring all of Ricky Hatton’s illegal tactics. The wrestling, mauling, head butting, rabbit punching, and bias officiating was too much for Tszyu, making this the last round of the fight. Ricky Hatton walks away with the title as Tszyu’s corner doesn’t allow their man out for another round.

Ricky Hatton is now the Light Welterweight Champion of the world, but what should happen regarding the events of his title winning effort? I think that Dave Parris needs to be investigated considering his officiating in this fight and his quick stoppage of Calzaghe-Mitchell. There is no question in my mind that Parris favors British fighters and the scary thing is that it may even go farther then that. I hope that the IBF will take another look at the fight between Hatton and Tszyu and draw their own conclusions. Boxing can be a dirty and corrupt sport, but that doesn’t mean that we have to accept it. We have this crime on tape, and that should get Kostya a rematch in a country that will give him a fair shake, with a referee that has actually read the rule book and isn’t prone to subjective officiating.

Please dont hate on me for posting this, the whole "stop making excuses you nuthugger...blah blah blah". I never made excuses for my boy KT losing this fight, but read this, and watch the fight.

i seen it for the most part that way too. most american sports writers scored it even closer than the judges and thought that if tszyu won the last round and if the hatton knockdown would have been scored instead of a low blow, that tszyu would have been ahead.

pbf,corrales let hatton hide in brittain. make him come over here. and tell him to leave his boy parris at his house in bed.

I think the other thread was deleted for posting another website, I apologize about that, forgot.

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great report mate.....i wish Kostya would rematch Hatton and prove who is the better fighter......

i doubt that the IBF would take any action though as there is a lot of money in Hatton now and Tszyu's days would have been over sooner rather than later.....

i pretty much agree with every point you made, and like i said, there should be a rematch....i even think Kostya will beat him in Manchester, as long as it is a firm ref.......

let's wait and see...

I've got nothing more to add to what Frank has said. You make some good points, Godz, but as Frank rightly states, in order to have a real objective view of what went on you have to describe the fouls Zoo undertook as well.

It was a dirty, horrible, foul-filled fight - one of the reasons I'm not a big Hatton fan - but both were at it and both seemed happy. "Skinny" Parris had only refereed three of Hatton's previous 38 bouts, and looking at the ref to initiate a break is something ALL boxers do.

It's an interesting point, but I think it's more of a case of making the facts fit your point, rather than your point fitting the facts.


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The original post is not my observation, I know KT was getting his dirt in their, that was from another source. Can't say what because the last thread was deleted because I posted the link, i think. It was a dirty fight, but the whole hatton and ref thing is true. They need a rematch. On neutral ground. I think that's the bottom line. I'm not saying the outcome is going to be different, but KT deserves that.

The fight was dirty and perhaps the ref was on Hatton's side, but I was getting tired of Tszyu anyway and would like to see Hatton fight Mayweather. Time for Mayweather to go down. Only thing is I may not be able to root for Hatton too long due to idiotic Brits being so biased for Hatton and acting like Borikuas do for Tito (or used to).

That alone is sometimes enough to make me not a fan.

The original post is not my observation, I know KT was getting his dirt in their, that was from another source. Can't say what because the last thread was deleted because I posted the link, i think. It was a dirty fight, but the whole hatton and ref thing is true. They need a rematch. On neutral ground. I think that's the bottom line. I'm not saying the outcome is going to be different, but KT deserves that.Oh, in that case I retract it, Godz.

I have to say, the way it's done, it really does sound as if it's you presenting this as your opinion. Mind you, I did wonder what the "other website" bit was.

Only thing is I may not be able to root for Hatton too long due to idiotic Brits being so biased for Hatton and acting like Borikuas do for Tito (or used to).

That alone is sometimes enough to make me not a fan.I think there's a lot of overreaction from some Limeys on here due to UK fighters getting trashed a lot. When we get one who is a genuine contender we tend to get excited.

Hell, there's still some people who wet themselves over Henry Cooper being in the top ten heavies back in the 60s...

Oh, in that case I retract it, Godz.

I have to say, the way it's done, it really does sound as if it's you presenting this as your opinion. Mind you, I did wonder what the "other website" bit was.


Message me and I'll tell you.

I agree that way too many things about the fight just looked "wrong" and that on neutral ground with a different ref. the outcome most likely would have been completely different. If Ricky feels he won that fair and square, then I dont see why he'd have any problem giving KT the rematch, and he keeps swearing he'll fight somewhere other than Manchester..so that would be the perfect opportunity to do so.

I wonder if Tszyu would want a rematch? His form (Philips) suggests he lets his losses go.

I wonder if it would also prove anything anyway? People are already (retroactively) saying Zoo was nearly shot... besides, he took such a beating in that fight you could argue he wouldn't be the same fighter.

I agree it was a very dirty fight and the ref did absolutely nothing. However Hatton came into the fight knowing that if he fights this kind of fight on the inside and not allow Kostya to fight his normal style that he would win. So he did a good job by fighting on the inside, but used allot of flagrant ways of achieving the victory.

The way you read this fight on here you'd think Zoo fought like a saint. I don't even like Hatton, but they were both dirty fighters that night.

Meh. Tszyu got outworked by a younger, hungrier fighter. End of story.
Yep, my sentiments exactly. There was a fair amount of illegal blows from both parties. Tsyzu accepted that he was beaten, and that's what counts. Illegal blows can be part of the game -Duran Buchanan anyone? Bring it home Ricky!

The dirtiest move of the night was made by Tszyu....
& that was quitting a world championship fight, with only one round to go. One round of a close fight. Quitting, while being paid millions.


Hatton beat the fight out of Tszyu (I wanted Tszyu to win, & picked him to demolish Hatton).....& you all need to stop griping. You all sound childish. Focus on how your hero quit....f*cker doesn't even deserve a rematch.

Maybe tszyu is just an honorable guy who realizes he lost realizes he got cheated but he will take the loss like a man. Maybe he realizes that a win is a win and therefore hatton got the best of him and he doesnt want a rematch. I think he knows he got cheated inside but making excuses is not in his character. I am a tszyu fan and i hope that he fights again. jabsRstiff you are wrong completely people will overlook his entire career and go directly to the quit against hatton. Fact is what Tszyu has done over the past 10 years is incredible. Remember the title that mayweather has from gatti was only aquired because it was taken away from tszyu. Bull**** he doesnt deserve a rematch anyone who didnt think from the opening bell i hope this isnt fixed is lying. Everything was clear to me with the referee tszyus low blows were higher than some of the body punches thrown in trinidad vs wright that were being called ok punches. The punch that sent hatton to the canvas was directly on the beltline no part of the glove touched lower than the belt most other referees would have called this a knockdown but not david parris. Hatton should have been disqualified for that low blow as that took the will to fight out of tszyu. I think if anyone got hit with that punch they would have been on the ground crying but tszyu didnt even take the full amount of time alotted he kept fighting like a true warrior who deserved better and deserves a rematch. ID like to see them fight somewhere else in europe maybe russia maybe even go all the way down to australia and fight. The us could be a good place but another country would be good. O and the website that the article is on is rabbitpunchboxing.

for ****s sake give it a rest this is getting ridiculous

you lot should be ashamed.

absurd bull**** like this harms the sport.

grow up. :mad:

"Bull**** he doesnt deserve a rematch "

I don't think a guy who quit with one round to go deserves a rematch. Certainly not an immediate one !

Tszyu should have a fight or two, & show that his heart is still in the game. Let's face it, no matter what you think caused him to struggle so much with Hatton the first time, the fact is that Ricky Hatton is gonna push Kostya Tszyu every time they fight. Will Tszyu give it 100% every time ?

hatton beat the **** out of tszyu fair and square, i wish some people would just get over this fight.

You Can Bet Tzu's Hands, Not What They Were.a Gentleman With No Excuses, Still A Champion.

Don't think the fight was corrupted, but I think the ref was naturally biased towards Hatton. Its actually obvious, he let Hatton use ALOT of dirty tactics to win this fight. If this fight was in the USA, I guarantee Tszyu wasn't going to quit, and the fight would of been much closer.

Don't think the fight was corrupted, but I think the ref was naturally biased towards Hatton. Its actually obvious, he let Hatton use ALOT of dirty tactics to win this fight. If this fight was in the USA, I guarantee Tszyu wasn't going to quit, and the fight would of been much closer.

I'll never understand this "bias" talk, the fight i was wartching both fighters were just as rough as each other.

Both fighters were rough, but the ref let Hatton do much more then Tszyu. Sorry bud, it's the facts though. I aint biased (I'm Canadian), it's just the truth.

Both fighters were rough, but the ref let Hatton do much more then Tszyu. Sorry bud, it's the facts though. I aint biased (I'm Canadian), it's just the truth.

I'm not biased because i'm not a biased person, not because of my nationallity. i watched the match up and thought Tszyu was just as guilty as Hatton of making it a rough fight. Thats not even a bad thing, i like it when both fighters man up and go to war.

I've made my feeling quite clear in the past, Hatton and Tszyu are two of my favuorite fighters, i'm pissed that one had to lose but i know the best man won on the night. Thats not to say i think Hattons better but i think he has the style to beat Tsyzu 9 times out of 10.

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Why bump it? The fight that made Hatton the Ring's fighter of the year was "fixed" because the Internet says so? What a waste of a bump.

I'm not biased because i'm not a biased person, not because of my nationallity. i watched the match up and thought Tszyu was just as guilty as Hatton of making it a rough fight. Thats not even a bad thing, i like it when both fighters man up and go to war.

I've made my feeling quite clear in the past, Hatton and Tszyu are two of my favuorite fighters, i'm pissed that one had to lose but i know the best man won on the night. Thats not to say i think Hattons better but i think he has the style to beat Tsyzu 9 times out of 10.

i did'nt see Tszyu getting physical he did when he got fed up with Hatton bullrushing him and not being penalised for it

Dave Parris was a disgrace IMO im British & i like Hatton but that was a dirty fight that is the only thing i dont like about Hatton the holding & dirty fighting etc

Hatton turned it into a rough fight, that was his gameplan. Tszyu reciprocated, expecially with a series of low blows late in the fight which resulted in Hatton dropping him with a massive punch to the jacobs. The cards were close with Hatton slightly ahead, a fair reflection of the fight so that sort of ****s your argument a bit.

Why bump it? The fight that made Hatton the Ring's fighter of the year was "fixed" because the Internet says so? What a waste of a bump.

This is why people are turned off Hatton..So we cant even bump any thread involving him anymore? I bump it because we have just over a week to go to his fight..You hatton fanatics need to clam yourselves down a bit mate.

This is why people are turned off Hatton..So we cant even bump any thread involving him anymore? I bump it because we have just over a week to go to his fight..You hatton fanatics need to clam yourselves down a bit mate.


I don't get it. People are turned off Hatton because people who don't like Hatton are bumping topics from two years ago to try to prove some non-existent point?

bottom line is Ricky should'nt have been allowed to get away with half of the stuff that he was allowed to IMO Tszyu retaliated the same as any one else would if they felt they were being fouled and the oponent was'nt being penalised for it

This is just retarded. Tszyu himself said "I'm not ashamed of my loss because I lost to the better fighter". I doubt he would have said that if he felt that he'd been cheated, and he was fighting the fight so he would have been bound to notice any foul play.

bottom line is Ricky should'nt have been allowed to get away with half of the stuff that he was allowed to IMO Tszyu retaliated the same as any one else would if they felt they were being fouled and the oponent was'nt being penalised for it

What did he get away with? Exactly? Holding? Tszyu was tying up Hatton in close. Rough-housing? Tszyu was also rough-housing. Low blows? Tszyu did them first.

Hatton made it a pell-mell battle. How noble of him it would have been to stay on the end of Tszyu's punches and get knocked out, because otherwise it would be a bit rough.

The moon landings were faked also. You can see a pack of cigarettes in one the craters

This is clearly one of the most Ugliest fights I ahve seen in a long time..

Whether Hatton is "cahoots" with the ref or not.. The Ref Clearly is favouring Hatton.. The Knock down WAS NOT a low Blow.. The Retaliation by Hatton was VERY Blatantly a LOW BLOW..

Then There is Hatton winking at the ref .. we have to consider this..

However.. You also cannot dismiss that Hatton Fought the perfect fight against Tzsyu and that his Speed is Top Notch.. You also Cant deny that Hatton ate some very BIG punches that would have detered most Boxers from trying to get inside as much as Hatton was...


Hatton had some definate help from the Ref.. The question is...Is it a conspiracy?. Or was Hatton just benifactor or a Biased ref...

Wouold this fight have played out differently in the USA... I certain the Ref would have been less lieniant.. This most certainly changing the dynamics of the fight.. and possibly garnering a different outcome..

This is clearly one of the most Ugliest fights I ahve seen in a long time..

Whether Hatton is "cahoots" with the ref or not.. The Ref Clearly is favouring Hatton.. The Knock down WAS NOT a low Blow.. The Retaliation by Hatton was VERY Blatantly a LOW BLOW..

Then There is Hatton winking at the ref .. we have to consider this..

However.. You also cannot dismiss that Hatton Fought the perfect fight against Tzsyu and that his Speed is Top Notch.. You also Cant deny that Hatton ate some very BIG punches that would have detered most Boxers from trying to get inside as much as Hatton was...


Hatton had some definate help from the Ref.. The question is...Is it a conspiracy?. Or was Hatton just benifactor or a Biased ref...

Wouold this fight have played out differently in the USA... I certain the Ref would have been less lieniant.. This most certainly changing the dynamics of the fight.. and possibly garnering a different outcome..

unfortunatly i agree ,I still think Ricky would have won though

i don think it was a conspiracy but i feel dave parris was a bit biased

This is clearly one of the most Ugliest fights I ahve seen in a long time..

Whether Hatton is "cahoots" with the ref or not.. The Ref Clearly is favouring Hatton.. The Knock down WAS NOT a low Blow.. The Retaliation by Hatton was VERY Blatantly a LOW BLOW..

Then There is Hatton winking at the ref .. we have to consider this..

However.. You also cannot dismiss that Hatton Fought the perfect fight against Tzsyu and that his Speed is Top Notch.. You also Cant deny that Hatton ate some very BIG punches that would have detered most Boxers from trying to get inside as much as Hatton was...


Hatton had some definate help from the Ref.. The question is...Is it a conspiracy?. Or was Hatton just benifactor or a Biased ref...

Wouold this fight have played out differently in the USA... I certain the Ref would have been less lieniant.. This most certainly changing the dynamics of the fight.. and possibly garnering a different outcome..

I disagree, the knockdown of Hatton was clearly a low blow and was the last in a series of low blows that the referee didn't notice. The showtime commentators mentioned the low blows before Hatton retaliated. It was a clear case of the wiley veteran trying for an advantage.

One thing I learnt from that fight, and the Collazo and the Urango fights.
Hatton is one hell of a wrestler.
He can always find a career in WWE once he quits boxing.

On the serious side,the fukwt should be banned from boxing for using such illegal tactics.If you ask me, grabbing and clinching should be banned from boxing, at the least be warned and subsequent clinches, having 1 point deducted. If you watch Hatton closely, you will be disgusted at the way he fights.

One thing I learnt from that fight, and the Collazo and the Urango fights.
Hatton is one hell of a wrestler.
He can always find a career in WWE once he quits boxing.



HAHA OMG THATS PRICLESS LOL A RESSLER LOL HE WRESTLES ALL THE TIM WEOW WOT A BRILLAINT OBVERSATION LOL UR DA BEST!111

I don't get it. People are turned off Hatton because people who don't like Hatton are bumping topics from two years ago to try to prove some non-existent point?



What point do you think am trying to prove mate? since you know my intention or soul please tell me...Yes people get turned off Hatton because of Fanatics like you, please put me on ignore...I bump this thread just like i did 3 of Mayweather that i find on this forum..Nobody thought i was trying to make any point..Only the Hatton Fanatics...

HAHA OMG THATS PRICLESS LOL A RESSLER LOL HE WRESTLES ALL THE TIM WEOW WOT A BRILLAINT OBVERSATION LOL UR DA BEST!111


:alcoholic
I'll have some of what your having..
:stupid:

Hatton is a DIRTY FIGHTER .
End of story.

What point do you think am trying to prove mate? since you know my intention or soul please tell me...Yes people get turned off Hatton because of Fanatics like you, please put me on ignore...I bump this thread just like i did 3 of Mayweather that i find on this forum..Nobody thought i was trying to make any point..Only the Hatton Fanatics...

I think that bumping a post from two years ago to try and discredit Hatton is pretty pathetic. How many posts have I bumped for the purpose of discrediting a fighter? Can you count them? Nope, because I've never bumped a post to discredit a fighter.

I'll have some of what your having..


Hatton is a DIRTY FIGHTER .
End of story.

That WWE comment is the most boring hackneyed internet jibe you could possibly come up with. If you had come up with something original then perhaps I would let it slide.

I think that bumping a post from two years ago to try and discredit Hatton is pretty pathetic. How many posts have I bumped for the purpose of discrediting a fighter? Can you count them? Nope, because I've never bumped a post to discredit a fighter.



That WWE comment is the most boring hackneyed internet jibe you could possibly come up with. If you had come up with something original then perhaps I would let it slide.

Sorry, I haven't lived all my life on the internet like some to know what term is or isn't overused.

Bull****. Floyd himself and his chum Leonard have used that jibe, you know it. You were recycling jokes that weren't that good in the first place and if you're now trying to pass them off as your own then that's even weaker than I thought!

Bull****. Floyd himself and his chum Leonard have used that jibe, you know it. You were recycling jokes that weren't that good in the first place and if you're now trying to pass them off as your own then that's even weaker than I thought!


man,your sadder than I thought u were.
See ya.
Your not worth wasting my typing on.
Your kid maturity and the way you talk is starting to show.
See ya.

I think that bumping a post from two years ago to try and discredit Hatton is pretty pathetic. How many posts have I bumped for the purpose of discrediting a fighter? Can you count them? Nope, because I've never bumped a post to discredit a fighter.



That WWE comment is the most boring hackneyed internet jibe you could possibly come up with. If you had come up with something original then perhaps I would let it slide.


You're even more pathetic that i thought..Thats why i knew the only people that would see it that way would be a Hatton fanatic..Look take Hatton's balls out of you mouth and discuss boxing not just Hatton.

Read the thread and understand it..the thread makes the writer look like a fool to me thats why i bump it up...But it also makes you look like a bigger fool for think i bump it up to discredit or Credit Hatton.:duh:

And for your information am a Hatton and calzaghe fan but also a boxing fan not a nuthugger or Hatton fanatic like you.

You're even more pathetic that i thought..Thats why i knew the only people that would see it that way would be a Hatton fanatic..Look take Hatton's balls out of you mouth and discuss boxing not just Hatton.

Read the thread and understand it..the thread makes the writer look like a fool to me thats why i bump it up...But it also makes you look like a bigger fool for think i bump it up to discredit or Credit Hatton.:duh:

And for your information am a Hatton and calzaghe fan but also a boxing fan not a nuthugger or Hatton fanatic like you.


Dude . let it go.:) he's not worth it.
hehehe

Dude . let it go.:) he's not worth it.
hehehe


Sorry mate.

Its just irritating when you're trying to be objective about boxing as a whole but some people try to throw accusation in your face, The thing is i actually like Hatton (been to 4 of his fights) but am not a nuthugger and i dont hang on every word that comes out of his mouth.

The original post can be summed up in one word - absurd.