View Full Version : Finally watched the complete Hatton Vs Tszyu for the 1st time..


solo1bc
07-01-2005, 03:38 AM
and I finally understand why a lot of the Brits got so upset with some of the opinions on the forum. People saying the fight was fixed, the ref was biased, Ricky was a dirty fighter or that it would have been a different result in the states etc. were just completely biased opinions in my view and they must have been watching a different fight or just talking from emotion and not common sense...

1) It wasn't a particularily dirty fight.. Hatton fought with a swarming style and there was some roughhousing but only that..

2) It wasn't a very pretty 'boxing match' but was a compelling 'fight'

3) The ref wasn't as bad as everyone said.. He allowed the punching to carry on inside but I've seen much worse holding and hitting etc. Maybe not breaking as much as he could of which favoured Ricky but I thought he was pretty fair and warned both fighters for low blows/hitting behind the head.. Those people say he was biased because he was british and in britain are just talking nonsense. There are 1000 better examples of biased referring.. Richard Steele anyone?

4) The low blow on Zoo which floored him was pretty low but it wasn't straight on the plums and was in retaliation to a couple of low blows on Hatton.. They were both hitting low but it wasn't Golota Vs Bowe!

5) Surprising that Zoo didn't finish the fight but his corner seemed to have his best interests at heart.. His face was pretty ****ed up (and we now know he had a broken jaw at the time!) I don't think it takes away from his legacy at all

6) That 'talking to crowd' thing at the end was cheesy as you like! It ain't WWF guys!

Sorry to bring up an old topic but wanted to make an informed statement after downloading the whole thing..

Finally, I'm not sure Ricky can beat PBF but if he's all over him like in the Tszyu fight he's gonna give him the test of his career...

Providing Ricky doesn't get cut and the fight gets stopped that's gonna be the fight of the year whenever it happens...

sonofisis
07-15-2005, 04:02 PM
I don't know about all of that, but i know Hatton couldn't beat any of the elite American fighters tho..

abdiel2k3
07-15-2005, 04:13 PM
do u have dial up?
god damn
it bearly got done DLen
Lol

uncle_rico
07-15-2005, 04:44 PM
"Finally, I'm not sure Ricky can beat PBF but if he's all over him like in the Tszyu fight he's gonna give him the test of his career.."

that style can be sucessful, it all depends on the fighter.
jake lamotta fought the same way and got away with it cuz
his face was cement.
joe frazier and hagler (tho both more skilled than hatton)
fought similar styles (willing to get 3 to give you 1) as
well.

so, if he can take a ton of pounding and stick to his swarming style,
he can be sucessful against anyone.
he may lose on points here and there, but if he's got the balls
and chin to stick with the style he's got, he could give a ton of guys problems.

Rovers
07-15-2005, 05:25 PM
i think he can beat pbf because floyd wouldnt be able to deal with the constant pressure

styles make fights

Moon
07-15-2005, 06:01 PM
Question .... will he attract a following fans outside of Manchester, fighting this style? Sure he can beat some guys, but I think his style is "ugly", although effective.

roberson2u
07-15-2005, 10:33 PM
Hatton's gotta get out of England and show something

leroy
07-21-2005, 07:28 AM
I don't know about all of that, but i know Hatton couldn't beat any of the elite American fighters tho..
Before the fight Tszyu was known as the best at the weight after blowing away Mitchell and Judah without breaking a sweat, Hatton is naturally bigger than Mayweather and any of the other elite Americans - he is around 3 stone over fight weight between bouts.
All the latest reports are saying that Mayweather is trying to organise a fight with Winky Wright so he cannot be confident about beating Hatton. Mayweather is a great fighter but I think Hatton would take him all the way.

leroy
07-21-2005, 07:32 AM
Question .... will he attract a following fans outside of Manchester, fighting this style? Sure he can beat some guys, but I think his style is "ugly", although effective.
Hatton will bring a huge following of fans from the UK to any venue in the world, England fans love boxing and would love to follow their hero to the likes of New York, Vegas etc..

SHANE, (from england)
07-21-2005, 07:53 AM
Hatton Is Too Tougth For The Skillfull American Boxers At Present, I Also Think He Has A Lot Of Heart And Will Never Give Up, Hes Young And Got So Much Desire, I Think People Are Forgetting Aswell Hatton Can Box If He Needs To Which Hes Proved In Some Previous Fights, Yea Hes A Natural Maller Whos Always Coming Forward But He Has Other Strings To His Bow Aswell.hes So Powerful For His Weight, Hes Got A Decent Chin Is Quick, Sharp, Fit And Aggressive And Beats Everyone Quite Convincingly Who Steps In The Ring With Him.tszyu Was Supposed To Be A Good Fighter And A Test For Hatton And Look What Happened, Regardless Of Opinions On Hattons Style He Won Comfortably In The End Forcing Tszyu And His Team To Give Up Early Relativly Early In The Fight.its Stupid To Rubbish A Fighter When Hes Not Lost, Hes Going Places And Thats What Some People Fere.

RoboHobo
07-22-2005, 07:10 AM
itv2 will be showing alex arthurs title attempt and the hatton - tszyu replay
tommorow 23rd of july..not sure of the time but 9pm onwards is likely

Pico Hollywood
07-23-2005, 07:53 AM
Hatton can't handle PBF handspeed it'll be a good fight if it occurs

Parodius
07-23-2005, 08:33 AM
No it's not going to be the fight of the year, its going to be the beating of the year.

tracylee
07-23-2005, 07:01 PM
Question .... will he attract a following fans outside of Manchester, fighting this style? Sure he can beat some guys, but I think his style is "ugly", although effective.

So do I, and a bit on the dirty side.

elveiel
07-24-2005, 06:37 PM
Question .... will he attract a following fans outside of Manchester, fighting this style? Sure he can beat some guys, but I think his style is "ugly", although effective.

You have to get rough with Tszyu, Hatton's normally a brilliant fighter to watch, he's one of the few fighters who fights the full 3mins of every round.

J !
07-25-2005, 09:13 AM
So do I, and a bit on the dirty side.

based on ONE fight.

really Tracy watch more of his fights and tell me his style is ugle he is the second coming of harry greb in terms of style he doesnt stop. Honest trust me on this.

tracylee
07-25-2005, 01:57 PM
based on ONE fight.

really Tracy watch more of his fights and tell me his style is ugle he is the second coming of harry greb in terms of style he doesnt stop. Honest trust me on this.

I've seen him several times (the first time against Stephen Smith..what an embarrassment for Smith) and will say he didnt always fight that way..not back then. It's only been his last 2-3 fights, and the first time I saw him fighting that way I clearly remember thinking "what the hell's his trainer teaching him now..whats with the dirt"?? I swear! So, for what it's worth, I did notice the style change, I just didnt think it was a change for the better.

Paine
07-25-2005, 03:04 PM
Looking for more Ricky footage, earlier fights, anyone know where to get them?

Cletus Funk
07-25-2005, 03:07 PM
I've seen him several times (the first time against Stephen Smith..what an embarrassment for Smith) and will say he didnt always fight that way..not back then. It's only been his last 2-3 fights, and the first time I saw him fighting that way I clearly remember thinking "what the hell's his trainer teaching him now..whats with the dirt"?? I swear! So, for what it's worth, I did notice the style change, I just didnt think it was a change for the better.

Hatton bashing's only allowed in Non-stop Boxing. :D

Seriously though, could you give some examples because the Tszyu fight is the only time I've ever seen him consistently use rough-house tactics in a fight. He's always been totally dominant, with a couple of exceptions, and never needed to use them.

Cletus Funk
07-25-2005, 03:26 PM
Looking for more Ricky footage, earlier fights, anyone know where to get them?

When you've got 100 posts you can apply to join one of the download lounges. Elveiel's is probably best for Hatton fights (because I'm a member and have them all :D ). Boxing Torrents will have a few too.

elveiel
07-25-2005, 03:56 PM
Looking for more Ricky footage, earlier fights, anyone know where to get them?

There's some clips on his website

http://www.rickyhitmanhatton.com/video/video.html

Like Tank said, if you reach 100 posts you could join a download lounge. I'm sure the elveiel lounge could make room for an aspiring Hatton fan.

J !
07-28-2005, 08:44 AM
I've seen him several times (the first time against Stephen Smith..what an embarrassment for Smith) and will say he didnt always fight that way..not back then. It's only been his last 2-3 fights, and the first time I saw him fighting that way I clearly remember thinking "what the hell's his trainer teaching him now..whats with the dirt"?? I swear! So, for what it's worth, I did notice the style change, I just didnt think it was a change for the better.


ok fiar enough sweets, i should have knwon better at least you arent basing it soley on the kostya fight which many seem to be doing.

For my four penneth come forward winging in punches non stop type fighters are going to be a little bit rough, its inherent in their style.

Tha Greatest
08-05-2005, 02:29 AM
Hatton=get knocked the **** out by Mayweather

Cletus Funk
08-05-2005, 04:11 AM
Hatton=get knocked the **** out by Mayweather

Mayweather=get KTFO by Maussa :D

dnicpon
08-06-2005, 02:56 PM
Hatton vs PBF will be a good fight IF AND ONLY IF PBF doest run around the like a chicken with his head cut off. I dont think PBF wants to fight Hatton any sooner than he has to. PBF will be hurt badly in that fight. I can see him cringing in pain from the body shots. Hatton is MUCH stronger than PBF and NO ONE here can renounce that. PBF is faster but speed doesnt do **** if you are trapped in a corner.

My prediction is a fight that does the distance with both fighters pretty damn tired and beat up. PBF will win by a split decision.

sonofisis
08-06-2005, 09:57 PM
Hatton is waaaay overrated.. He's never even left Manchester and people are giving him a shot against Floyd? the best pound for pound today.. That isn't right, Hatton hasn't beatin one big name besides zoo, he's undeafeated with over 30 wins and has still never won a significant Championship title until he rough housed zoo.. PBF would kill Hatton IMO, i really think that he'd expose Hatton and embarass him like he did to Gatti.. Hatton is Hot Garbage, I can't wait until the dude actually steps outta the saftey of Manchester and gets floored.. Because the fight between him and PBF was proposed, but Hatton sounded scared, talking about he'd make more money in Manchester, what a coward!!

Cletus Funk
08-07-2005, 04:10 AM
Hatton is waaaay overrated.. He's never even left Manchester and people are giving him a shot against Floyd? the best pound for pound today.. That isn't right, Hatton hasn't beatin one big name besides zoo, he's undeafeated with over 30 wins and has still never won a significant Championship title until he rough housed zoo.. PBF would kill Hatton IMO, i really think that he'd expose Hatton and embarass him like he did to Gatti.. Hatton is Hot Garbage, I can't wait until the dude actually steps outta the saftey of Manchester and gets floored.. Because the fight between him and PBF was proposed, but Hatton sounded scared, talking about he'd make more money in Manchester, what a coward!!

Hatton's only fought in Manchester 16 times in 39 fights. PBF's never left the country and Hatton's fought overseas 4 times so Hatton would kick his ass :rolleyes:

J !
08-08-2005, 08:31 AM
well said frank, i really wish folk with such vitriolic opinions could do us the decency of knowing what they are on about before sharing their wisdom, not only that he has fought in the states more than once (3 times i think) once in detroit once in madison square garden and i cant remember the other one off the top of my head.

Cletus Funk
08-08-2005, 08:37 AM
well said frank, i really wish folk with such vitriolic opinions could do us the decency of knowing what they are on about before sharing their wisdom, not only that he has fought in the states more than once (3 times i think) once in detroit once in madison square garden and i cant remember the other one off the top of my head.

It's quite amusing though mate. This guy actually sounds like he's arguing that Hatton's punch resistance is dramatically reduced by leaving Manchester :confused: PBF's gonna stand for "Pissing Blood Floyd" if they ever fight :D

J !
08-08-2005, 08:51 AM
haha pissing blood floyd.

genius. :D :cool: :boxing:

jservs7
08-23-2005, 01:18 AM
IMO, I think Hatton is a great fighter, but theres no way he would have gotten that fight called in his favor on US soil with the straight thugged out tactics he used. Its the same reason why Mayweather will only fight him in the US. I know a guy can be tough, but Hatton would have gotten arrested in the US for all the head ramming and that obvious low blow on Tszyu. :p

Breakbeat
08-27-2005, 04:42 PM
If they ever fight.......It would be like Naz vs Barrera all over again.......with Hatton taught a lesson in boxing. :boxing:

karlygash
09-07-2005, 02:47 PM
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Pooch
09-09-2005, 08:27 AM
and I finally understand why a lot of the Brits got so upset with some of the opinions on the forum. People saying the fight was fixed, the ref was biased, Ricky was a dirty fighter or that it would have been a different result in the states etc. were just completely biased opinions in my view and they must have been watching a different fight or just talking from emotion and not common sense...

1) It wasn't a particularily dirty fight.. Hatton fought with a swarming style and there was some roughhousing but only that..

2) It wasn't a very pretty 'boxing match' but was a compelling 'fight'

3) The ref wasn't as bad as everyone said.. He allowed the punching to carry on inside but I've seen much worse holding and hitting etc. Maybe not breaking as much as he could of which favoured Ricky but I thought he was pretty fair and warned both fighters for low blows/hitting behind the head.. Those people say he was biased because he was british and in britain are just talking nonsense. There are 1000 better examples of biased referring.. Richard Steele anyone?

4) The low blow on Zoo which floored him was pretty low but it wasn't straight on the plums and was in retaliation to a couple of low blows on Hatton.. They were both hitting low but it wasn't Golota Vs Bowe!

5) Surprising that Zoo didn't finish the fight but his corner seemed to have his best interests at heart.. His face was pretty ****ed up (and we now know he had a broken jaw at the time!) I don't think it takes away from his legacy at all

6) That 'talking to crowd' thing at the end was cheesy as you like! It ain't WWF guys!

Sorry to bring up an old topic but wanted to make an informed statement after downloading the whole thing..

Finally, I'm not sure Ricky can beat PBF but if he's all over him like in the Tszyu fight he's gonna give him the test of his career...

Providing Ricky doesn't get cut and the fight gets stopped that's gonna be the fight of the year whenever it happens...
where did u downlload it from?

abyrvalg
09-09-2005, 05:01 PM
Is would be intersting to see Hatton vs Cotto (in that case Hatton will die )

J !
09-13-2005, 12:34 PM
Is would be intersting to see Hatton vs Cotto (in that case Hatton will die )


you must be a real fan wishing death on fighters, jesus, i hate it when i hear this type of thing really. theres enough deaths and injuries in boxing every year without this type of comment. :rolleyes: