View Full Version : Should I do kickboxing if I want to be a boxer?


SUPREME.
06-08-2010, 03:43 PM
I have the choice of doing kickboxing or boxing, and i'm kind of leaning towards kickboxing (not muay thai, just regular) for many reasons. First it provides you with extra self defense (being able to use your knees and legs) and it will also make my legs stronger.

But at the same time, I don't want to be a kickboxer. I want to be a boxer, so I figured that doing kickboxing will not allow me to fully focus on learning the skill of using my hands, because I will also have to learn how to use my legs too.

I was just thinking that if I want to really do boxing, it should be not 50% legs 50% arms, just 100% arms.

Any opinions?

CiganoBoxer
06-08-2010, 03:54 PM
I have the choice of doing kickboxing or boxing, and i'm kind of leaning towards kickboxing (not muay thai, just regular) for many reasons. First it provides you with extra self defense (being able to use your knees and legs) and it will also make my legs stronger.

But at the same time, I don't want to be a kickboxer. I want to be a boxer, so I figured that doing kickboxing will not allow me to fully focus on learning the skill of using my hands, because I will also have to learn how to use my legs too.

I was just thinking that if I want to really do boxing, it should be not 50% legs 50% arms, just 100% arms.

Any opinions?

We used to get Kickboxers come in our gym to spar ....none of them was out standing with there hands ...

Chip2006uk
06-08-2010, 04:07 PM
Why dont you just do kickboxing for a couple of months and learn the basics of kicks and whatever, and then start training in boxing. For a start you'll probably be in better general shape to box and you'll have a base to start with from what you've learnt in kickboxing.

squealpiggy
06-08-2010, 04:36 PM
Boxing is very different than kickboxing and is much more work. It's more intense.

dannnnn
06-08-2010, 04:39 PM
I don't want to be a kickboxer. I want to be a boxer

And you're asking us whether you should do kick-boxing or boxing? I'm not trying to be a dick, but come on...

SUPREME.
06-08-2010, 05:02 PM
You are trying to be a dick, and a smartass.
I was saying that I want to be a boxer, but kickboxing has additional advantages, though will it distract me from honing my skills as a boxer as you have to learn with your legs too. I wanted to know will I still be able to focus on boxing whilst doing kickboxing, or will it distract me from reaching my highest potential as a boxer.
Analyze and decipher my post before you try to make me look stupid..

Chip2006uk
06-08-2010, 06:20 PM
You are trying to be a dick, and a smartass.
I was saying that I want to be a boxer, but kickboxing has additional advantages, though will it distract me from honing my skills as a boxer as you have to learn with your legs too. I wanted to know will I still be able to focus on boxing whilst doing kickboxing, or will it distract me from reaching my highest potential as a boxer.
Analyze and decipher my post before you try to make me look stupid..

Of course it will, you cant learn to box well by training in kickboxing, you'll learn the basics sure, and Im not 100% because Ive never trained in Kickboxing but I would imagine you'd learn some bad habits if you trained kickboxing to learn boxing. Theres a couple of Kickboxers that train at my boxing gym because they want to work on their boxing, that says it all really.

#1Assassin
06-08-2010, 06:36 PM
Why dont you just do kickboxing for a couple of months and learn the basics of kicks and whatever, and then start training in boxing. For a start you'll probably be in better general shape to box and you'll have a base to start with from what you've learnt in kickboxing.

Of course it will, you cant learn to box well by training in kickboxing, you'll learn the basics sure, and Im not 100% because Ive never trained in Kickboxing but I would imagine you'd learn some bad habits if you trained kickboxing to learn boxing. Theres a couple of Kickboxers that train at my boxing gym because they want to work on their boxing, that says it all really.

kickboxing fundamentals are diffrent from boxing fundamentals and it takes longer to get bad habits out of your system than it does to learn new things, starting out as a kickboxer would give various bad habits.

u will have to re learn your whole stance once u make the switch.

- kickboxers have their feet closer togheter
- are flat footed
- dont bend their knees much
- square up
- stand straight up even if they are short
etc

also kickboxers stand right in front of eachother and are very stationary, dont use any angles whatsoever. and the kickboxers i seen or sparred with usually just have plain ****ty hands. i wouldnt recommend to start out kickboxing at all, its better to just run and do some groundwork (situps, pushups etc) to get in shape.

as for the TS question i think u should do boxing instead, u still need to have strong legs if u are a boxer. u will do much more running than a kickboxer would. above all else boxing is just a much better sport, its the sweet science, kickboxing is more brute force.

dannnnn
06-08-2010, 08:32 PM
Analyze and decipher my post before you try to make me look stupid..

You made yourself look stupid by asking a stupid question.

Should I do kickboxing if I want to be a boxer? No, you should do boxing if you want to be a boxer. It's that simple.

I was saying that I want to be a boxer, but kickboxing has additional advantages

Additional advantages in what? In a street fight? It certainly doesn't have any additional advantages in boxing. Plenty of kickboxers have switched over to boxing, but not without taking time to adjust their stance and learn correct boxing technique.

I don't understand the point of this thread at all, it's not like you're saying "Which is better for me, kickboxing or boxing?", you're actually saying "I want to be a boxer, so should I do kickboxing or boxing?". If you can't figure out the answer to that on your own, you need to go give your mother a slap for not having an abortion.

SUPREME.
06-08-2010, 08:50 PM
Of course it doesn't have any additional advantages in boxing, ignoramous.
I can see you don't understand so i'll hold you hand and guide you through this.
Doing kickboxing will of course give you an additional advantage, such as stronger legs and better flexibility, plus knowing how to use your ****ing legs as a weapon.
The very simple point of the thread was asking are these 'additional advantages' a big distraction from learning how to box at my highest potential or will I be able to kill 2 birds with one stone. Now, because you are 23 years old and can't comprehend this simple question, go upstairs and slap your mother for not swallowing.

Thanks to everyone else for giving civilized answers.

dannnnn
06-08-2010, 08:54 PM
The very simple point of the thread was asking are these 'additional advantages' a big distraction from learning how to box at my highest potential

YES.

Clear enough for you?

SUPREME.
06-08-2010, 09:01 PM
Yeah, clear enough.
Thanks.

ChowAce
06-09-2010, 05:20 AM
I would suggest just going to a boxing gym, the footwork, movements, and the stance are completely different in kickboxing.

I trained kickboxing for one year before switching to boxing, and I also prefer boxing much more. Kickboxing did however give me a good base in striking regardig basic combos, but I had to chance everything once I switched to boxing. The stance, the way I move, the way I throw my punches etc.

So I think its better just to start boxing right away if thats an option. I dunno maybe there is no good boxing gym in your area or something.

Fearless
06-09-2010, 07:16 AM
Its very different, if you really want to do boxing, which from your original post sounds like it, do boxing. You can supplement boxing into kickboxing, but not the other way around. You'll never have a boxer move like a Thaiboxer/kickboxer, because they don't need to check kicks.

I personally have not trained in boxing, but I train Muay Thai, there's a lot more than kicking and punching though, a lot of counters, and different evasion techniques. But still, you don't move around like a boxer though, so its different.

I wouldn't say a kickboxer is completely flat footed though. We are told to stay on our toes.

Don Flamenco
06-09-2010, 08:33 AM
I would do the opposite and box first before you do kickboxing. The fundamentals are different and will be harder to unlearn if you do kickboxing first. Might be cheaper to just box too

cameronpaul
06-17-2010, 07:19 AM
make boxing your technique goal, stance/movement ect. then try to add in some kicks of your own while training. kicking is good for the muscles in the torso and for leg strength and fitness. but i would suggest to think of yourself as a boxer that can kick rather than a kickboxer who punches well. i think the boxing stance "peekaboo" allows for better use of elbows than the kickboxing stance anyway. and low kicks and front kicks can be easily adapted to the boxing stance. its only the high kicks or spinning kicks that might best suit the kick boxing stance.

One more round
06-23-2010, 12:35 AM
I'm not sure if this was common knowledge, but it is generally advisable to do boxing if you want to be a boxer.

Seriously, kickboxers stand different, put their weight differently, hold their hands different, different style.

And when you come over to boxing, you have to change so much. And the way kickboxers punch and hold their hands is dangerous in boxing. (As in, a good fighter will rape you)

One more round
06-23-2010, 12:37 AM
I have the choice of doing kickboxing or boxing, and i'm kind of leaning towards kickboxing (not muay thai, just regular) for many reasons. First it provides you with extra self defense (being able to use your knees and legs) and it will also make my legs stronger.

But at the same time, I don't want to be a kickboxer. I want to be a boxer, so I figured that doing kickboxing will not allow me to fully focus on learning the skill of using my hands, because I will also have to learn how to use my legs too.

I was just thinking that if I want to really do boxing, it should be not 50% legs 50% arms, just 100% arms.

Any opinions?

**** me lol.

Box"K"ing
06-23-2010, 02:41 AM
As a person who has done both, I say just do boxing.

The reason is that boxing will force you to be a perfectionist due to the limited nature of the offense and thus because its hands only it will open up new avenus to become a super striker by educating you in angles,distancing, fast hands, balancing and shifting weight. Sadly kickboxers dont do that because there to focused in kicking that most of them neglect these fundementals.

Think about it...sometimes less is more and thats why boxers are superior at what they do cause there all about quality not quantity and keep in mind because of the rich history and the talent pool of boxing, specaily in the western world, you will have better sparring partners and high level coaching by nature.

GoogleMe
06-23-2010, 03:00 AM
I don't see the point. If you want to be a boxer, why do you ask us?

SUPREME.
06-23-2010, 03:44 AM
I'm not sure if this was common knowledge, but it is generally advisable to do boxing if you want to be a boxer.

Seriously, kickboxers stand different, put their weight differently, hold their hands different, different style.

And when you come over to boxing, you have to change so much. And the way kickboxers punch and hold their hands is dangerous in boxing. (As in, a good fighter will rape you)

You see, I didn't know that when I made this thread.

One more round
06-23-2010, 06:46 AM
You see, I didn't know that when I made this thread.

It should be common sense that when you want to be something, you do it, not something else.

Othello
06-23-2010, 04:22 PM
Should I bleach my anus if I want whiter teeth?

SUPREME.
06-24-2010, 02:49 PM
It seems like a stupid question, but it's really a simple question and the people with actual comprehension skills are the ones giving logical answers.

:lol1:

dannnnn
06-24-2010, 04:18 PM
It seems like a stupid question, but it's really a simple question and the people with actual comprehension skills are the ones giving logical answers.


It seems like a stupid question because it is a stupid question.

My comprehension skills are fine, the logical answer is: no, you shouldn't do kickboxing if you want to be a boxer, you should do boxing if you want to be a boxer.

My opinion hasn't changed, you're a moron for even asking this question.

SUPREME.
06-24-2010, 05:01 PM
Lol, not you again.
Go sit in a corner already dan.

dannnnn
06-24-2010, 05:10 PM
The only place I'll be sitting is on your mum's face with my balls in her mouth.