Its clear that Williams is the underdog but what is his best chance of winning? If you were Williams how would you attempt to cause a huge upset?

Its clear that Williams is the underdog but what is his best chance of winning? If you were Williams how would you attempt to cause a huge upset?



Vitali likes to fight on the outside and use his height and reach that is a given....Your best bet to beat Vitali is fight him from the inside and come forward, he ALWAYS fights from the outside and whenever he tends to get hit he leans back an in awkward motion, he moves his upperbody back and keeps his legs forward...When you are inside and he does this he leaves himself wide open, perfect opportunity for an uppercut if you can get the range inside for it...Although it will be tricky due to his solid chin that we have seen so far, While inside if you can it would be best to lean onto the Giant.

This gives Danny a pretty good chance, as he likes to fight on the inside and he does lean onto his opponents a lot. However the height might be to significant...


I give Danny Williams a 40% chance of winning actually.

Williams is not as big an underdog as the odds suggest

I cant see danny winning but i thought that about the tyson fight too. Who knows is Vitalis mind fully on the fight.

If i was Danny i would work my jab and one-two's for the first 6 rounds. Hopefully if i'm still on my feet at that point i would start to let my hands go on his ass. Apply pressure and save enough reserves to fight my heart out for the next 6 rounds if need be. Those first 6 rounds are inportant in my opinion, thats why i feel if Vitali hasn't hurt Danny or won by then he may be in serious trouble. Trying to make Vitali miss is important too, that will drain his stamina nicely and he ain't the fastest cat out there. He keeps his hands relatively low too so he may be open to some fast heavy handed slugging hits. Thats what i think anyway although it's easy to speculate but what actually happens will be a completely different thing.

put klitchko on the back foot, duck under the jab and bang to the body early. if williams lets vitali box at a distance and just follows him round the ring he'll lose.

Have we seen Vitali take many body shots?

if danny decides to box he will lose i think he will use the kab to the body most of the time and if vitali hasnt hurt him by the 8th round danny will turn it into a street fight and go toe to toe

Go close and hit to the body, that fighters classic solution against klitschko........i havent seen it work yet.

He has to go in there swinging to take off heads. He must be in there wathcing out for Klitchskos right hand. The only way he can win is by knockout or cuts. But if he eats one The Dr.s right hands he gonna' be sleeping for a while.

Its clear that Williams is the underdog but what is his best chance of winning? If you were Williams how would you attempt to cause a huge upset?


Keep the fight at close range (Vitali is not an inside fighter, he doesn't have thje skills to get off inside) stay on his chest and keep the pressure on. Lean on his chest and work the body.

If it goes past 8 rounds, Danny becomes big favourite.

Vitali punches down on small fighters like a sludgehammer! If Williams gets close Vitali will smash him into the ground! Almost all of Vitali's KO's are like that... Beat downs!!! ;)

Vitali punches down on small fighters like a sludgehammer! If Williams gets close Vitali will smash him into the ground! Almost all of Vitali's KO's are like that... Beat downs!!! ;)

That's the end result, after working off a long jab, or push.

If you can be in range, work the body and effect his leverage, you may get into some winninig exchanges.

You also need a good overhand right, as he's vulnerable there.

Dwould work my jab and one-two's for the first 6 rounds. Hopefully if i'm still on my feet at that point i would start to let my hands go on his ass. Apply pressure and save enough reserves to fight my heart out for the next 6 rounds if need be. Those first 6 rounds are inportant in my opinion, thats why i feel if Vitali hasn't hurt Danny or won by then he may be in serious trouble. Trying to make Vitali miss is important too, that will drain his stamina nicely and he ain't the fastest cat out there. He keeps his hands relatively low too so he may be open to some fast heavy handed slugging hits. Thats what i think anyway although it's easy to speculate but what actually happens will be a completely different thing.

Wez, that's so sweet of you to mentor Danny. :)

He keeps his hands relatively low too so he may be open to some fast heavy handed slugging hits.
Fast heavy handed slugging hits? WEZ! I always respected you but are you that desparate. Do you need a boxing lection.PM if you need one. I will tell you all about how punches are thrown. :D Otherwise you got my repect

even though i see no shot for williams...

what i would do...is start off slow.keep the round going slow then out of now where rush him to see how he takes it...the thing is VK leaves him self open down the middle so coming in fast (if u has ali's speed and stamina this would be asy as hell-all you would have to do is go in and out over and over till the monster falls) and cming back out before he catch you..or pull a ruiz and go in straigh donw the middle and hug him after the uppercuts..i would work the body on VK becuase it would leave my face open no matter hwo low my chin is

i wouldnt work the body with VK because it would leave my face wide opne is what i ment to say

He showed he had a big heart against Tyson. In itself, that puts him way ahead of most of todays heavyweights.

Fast heavy handed slugging hits? WEZ! I always respected you but are you that desparate. Do you need a boxing lection.PM if you need one. I will tell you all about how punches are thrown. :D Otherwise you got my repect

:D I know how punches are thrown you cheeky ****, i'm just thinking of a desperate strategy for Danny to beat Vitali's ass.

Have we seen Vitali take many body shots?

:) :) :)

No...because no one manage to do it so far.

Its clear that Williams is the underdog but what is his best chance of winning? If you were Williams how would you attempt to cause a huge upset?

:) :) :)

I think the only way he would beat Vitali is to transform his body into steel, by that, he would surely hurt Vitali's hands and would be forced to quit.

i just think the best way to beat klitchko is turn his big advantage (height) into a disadvantage. do like tyson and frazier used to do and stay low, go under the jab and bang to the body. i accept that no-one has done it before and maybe danny won't do it either, but i think it's the best way to beat a tall fighter like klitchko.

ok lets get analytical here. Vitali has one glaring weakness to me he is too static and tends to lean back when under attack and trying to thorw back, this leaves his body open, Williams must force Vitali on the back foot early and wing in the big howitzer body shots.

Slowing his man down throwing his rythmm off, if vitali is allowed to settle and bang off the one two its gonna hurt fdanny and it will be over quick.
if williams can do the above this will take its toll on vitali latter in the fight, williams can then afford to box at distance a little if he has more in the tank and take over form say round 5-6. Take vitali to the deep water and drown him.

Danny is useful at throwing cominations but must resist opening up too early in the fight, he should concentrate on the body for 4 or so rounds not soley but at least 30 % of his shots. Jab jab, body, form 4 on its far game.

The longer the fight goes on the better danny's chances are in my opinion. :cool:

williams tko 9. :cool:

JPW that's the very same round i'm going for, a big factor in the fight could be stamina, Klitschko looked a little tired against Sanders and that was fought at a snails pace most of the time so if Danny can drag him into the later rounds then the better his chances will be, my head says Klitschko will be cautious and win on points but my heart says Danny, I just have the feeling that he can pull this off.

JPW that's the very same round i'm going for, a big factor in the fight could be stamina, Klitschko looked a little tired against Sanders and that was fought at a snails pace most of the time so if Danny can drag him into the later rounds then the better his chances will be, my head says Klitschko will be cautious and win on points but my heart says Danny, I just have the feeling that he can pull this off.

as they say barry great minds my friend great minds :D ;)
barry did you get kev sched? didnt see too much in glasgow just the one fight get in there mate if you wanna go! ;)

ok lets get analytical here. Vitali has one glaring weakness to me he is too static and tends to lean back when under attack and trying to thorw back, this leaves his body open, Williams must force Vitali on the back foot early and wing in the big howitzer body shots.

Slowing his man down throwing his rythmm off, if vitali is allowed to settle and bang off the one two its gonna hurt fdanny and it will be over quick.
if williams can do the above this will take its toll on vitali latter in the fight, williams can then afford to box at distance a little if he has more in the tank and take over form say round 5-6. Take vitali to the deep water and drown him.

Danny is useful at throwing cominations but must resist opening up too early in the fight, he should concentrate on the body for 4 or so rounds not soley but at least 30 % of his shots. Jab jab, body, form 4 on its far game.

The longer the fight goes on the better danny's chances are in my opinion. :cool:

williams tko 9. :cool:

Very good analysis, i expect nothing but the best from you and thats what you've produced again. :cool:

why thank you wez have some karma dude! :cool:

why thank you wez have some karma dude! :cool:

Thanks, are you getting ready for the big fight then? I think i may have to sample some alcohol if i'm stopping up that late to watch it. I have never looked forward to a fight as much all year, it would be great to have another heavyweight champion of the world in the UK.

double post! :eek:

mate getitng ready for it im living the dream haha.

Got hatton oiveria first at the Excel which isnt far form me, 6 mates coming then another four who arent going to acutally go to see it live, turning up round mine at 11.30-mintie for the big one when i get back form the hatotn gfight. Then a few beers and a good old shout at the tv.....10 of us in all!

I fly out to singapore and australia for a month next thursday so nice little get together for me and the lads b4 i go! bit of a xmas piss up! :cool:

mate getitng ready for it im living the dream haha.

Got hatton oiveria first at the Excel which isnt far form me, 6 mates coming then another four who arent going to acutally go to see it live, turning up round mine at 11.30-mintie for the big one when i get back form the hatotn gfight. Then a few beers and a good old shout at the tv.....10 of us in all!

I fly out to singapore and australia for a month next thursday so nice little get together for me and the lads b4 i go! bit of a xmas piss up! :cool:

lol. Good going man, i'm sure it will be a night to remember. You've got a action packed night on your hands, the Hatton fight should be good with any luck. You can't beat a good old drink with the lads on a big fight venue. I must say out of all the fighters Danny was one of the last i expected to be fighting Vitali in the world. :D He's done us proud getting this far and i'm sure he'll go the full way for us.

You cannot beat a good xmas piss up :D

im so excited ibe nearly **** myself 3 times today already.

well metaphorically I mean :D

that comes with the hangover on sunday id imagine :D

im so excited ibe nearly **** myself 3 times today already.

well metaphorically I mean :D

that comes with the hangover on sunday id imagine :D

LMAO Too true man, i know exactly what you mean. Well apart from the ****ting yourself part. :p Seriously though i am well excited too, even more excited than i was for the Lewis Vs Tyson fight in away.

I can see williams headbutting (unintentionally) VK opening that cut again.........

the best way I can offer is to consult all his friends and family, start a fund raiser, then hand over all that money to Don King, allowing Mr. King to do his magic.

honestly though.. it all depends on VK's jab. if he use it perfectly to keep DW away from the body or if VK can use a follow-up right with such aim, that it nails the jab-ducking DW then DW's chances are far less.

i guess that sounds much like what everyone's already been saying though right? :)

something else that I would like to see cleared up is the cut rule / stoppage. I know it's quite different in a heavyweight fight... when does it go to the cards, is there actually any way that DW can win on a cut?

Pno

After hours of thinking I finally stucked on idea that has a chance of helping Denny. What about Denny kidnaps Vitaly's family, transports them to some middle east country(Iran or Iraq) so Vitaly will have to look for them and won't show up for a fight and automatically lose it.
Good strategy ain't it. Might be the only chance of Denny winning this fight. :D

After hours of thinking I finally stucked on idea that has a chance of helping Denny. What about Denny kidnaps Vitaly's family, transports them to some middle east country(Iran or Iraq) so Vitaly will have to look for them and won't show up for a fight and automatically lose it.
Good strategy ain't it. Might be the only chance of Denny winning this fight. :D

bout 3 months ago all the tysonettes were saying the same mate, dont get too ****y it might come back to bite you. ;)

bout 3 months ago all the tysonettes were saying the same mate, dont get too ****y it might come back to bite you. ;)
Did they say that? ****.
Last post was just a retaliation for changing my custom name.
Damn you Wez :mad:

haha qaulity i did see that and wonder
wez you got a naughty sense of humour! :D

LMAO Yeah i is one bad boy. :D It's fun changing peoples titles, thats 3 titles changed in 2 days now. I'm on a role :cool:

Do ya like your new title BrooklynBomber? :p

LMAO Yeah i is one bad boy. It's fun changing peoples titles, thats 3 titles changed in 2 days now. I'm on a role

Do ya like your new title BrooklynBomber?



Wez, I thought about changing your custom title, but now I am really afraid that I might get sued.


Watch out for lawyers, especially if they play poker. :eek: :D